Driver, 4W, 4i

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Does anyone have this setup at the top of the bag? Thoughts?



Lofts would be [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] I drive the ball about 265, and my 4i goes about 210. I currently have a 3w and hybrid in between. I find the 3w slightly tough to hit, and the hybrid not much further than the 4i.



Thinking getting a 4w would simplify my long game and practice. and if I’m over 210 yards from my target I’m pretty much crossing my fingers to hit the green anyway.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13539WRX Points: 2,408Handicap: 1.6Posts: 13,539 Titanium Tees
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    I like going Driver, 4w, 7w, then 4h or 4di ... ymmv



    hybrids are very useful for many types of shots
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  • MPSgolfsMPSgolfs Members  77WRX Points: 46Handicap: 10Posts: 77 Fairways
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    I go 17 degree 4w, 19 degree 3 hybrid, 22 degree 4 iron. Carry distances would have a huge gap for me personally without the hybrid. Probably 30-35 yards. Hybrid sits right in the middle.
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  • swing33swing33 Members  258WRX Points: 56Handicap: 9Posts: 258 Greens
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    Currently Driver, 4W and Heavenwood - then 4 iron
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  • ChadwickogChadwickog Members  383WRX Points: 102Posts: 383 Greens
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    Yep, need something between the 4w and the 4i. Typically a 7w or a 4h in my case. Though I currently pack a 3i too for those penetrating fairway shots..
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  • robcharobcha ClubWRX  46WRX Points: 26Posts: 46 ClubWRX
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    Have currently driver (9.0), 3 wood, 7 wood and 4 iron. I have about a 20 yard gap inbetween the clubs starting with 4 iron
    On -, @210yds.




    Finding that 7 wood was the hardest part for the past couple months.
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  • zzyzxx33zzyzxx33 Members  1172WRX Points: 151Posts: 1,172 Platinum Tees
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    I play that set up right now (driver 9*, 3HL 17*, then 4 iron), not that I play much do to the 3 feet of snow that came last week. I tried a heavenwood last year and a hybrid in years past but they have not panned out yet.
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  • mcs4mcs4 South FloridaMembers  658WRX Points: 61Handicap: 12Posts: 658 Golden Tee
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    I have basically this same setup, except I use a 21 deg 3 iron versus your 22 deg 4 iron. It works for me, for basically the same reasons you are thinking.
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    Mizuno MP-H4 3 iron (Aldila Tour Green 85)
    Mizuno MP-H4 4 iron (Steelfiber 95)
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    Ping i E1, 50 deg. (Recoil 110)
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  • llewol007llewol007 4KidsGolfer San Jose, CaClubWRX  3631WRX Points: 205Handicap: 4.1Posts: 3,631 ClubWRX
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    Currently for me its 14.5 3 wood and a 17.5 5 wood then my 4 iron.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9315WRX Points: 1,469Posts: 9,315 Titanium Tees
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    IMO those are slightly larger than ideal gaps but it depends what kind of carries you need for the courses you play the most. I personally wouldn't love a 25-30 yard gap between my longest iron and next wood but I also only find myself with approach shots of longer than 210 only about 2-3 times per round anyway and I often play fairly conservative.
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  • geochitowngeochitown Members  2137WRX Points: 299Handicap: 14Posts: 2,137 Platinum Tees
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    I do, for when I play longer courses, except I use a 22* hybrid instead of a "4-iron"



    For my shorter league course, I use driver, 18* 5W then 4H at 22*



    Thinking of swapping driver for a shorter mini-driver, XCG7 Beta 11.5 fairway or E8 Beta 12* fwy built at 42.75" or maybe 43"
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    TEE XCG7 Beta +1* to 11.5* - Testing at 43" w/ Matrix 7M3 stiff/Driver stand-in Wishon 919THI 13* Matrix 7M3 at 42.75"
    TEE XCG7 Beta 4W 16.5* - Matrix 8M2 /5W 18* - Matrix 8M2 stiff tipped 2" at 41.75"
    OR TEE XCG7 Beta 19* H - Fujikura Fit-on Red Stiff - 85 g at 39.25"
    TEE XCG7 Beta 22*H - Diamana Thump T93 Stiff untipped at 38.75"
    TEE XCG7 Beta 25*H - Diamana Thump i465ct 4i shaft stiff 38.25"
    Wishon 560MC's 5-PW (27,31,35,39,43.5,48) at -1/2" length KBS Tour 105 Stiff
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  • asKaasaasKaasa Fred Fåkkåpz Members  89WRX Points: 71Posts: 89 Fairways
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    Agree with previous posters, you will need something to fill get gap between the 4w and 4i.



    My setup:



    Driver 9,5

    3W 14,5

    3h 19

    4h 22

    5i 26



    The gapping works perfectly. Only thing I would consider changing is changing out the 3h and replace it with a DI or 3i.



    Edit: Wrong loft on the 5i.
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  • pakpak Members  194WRX Points: 111Posts: 194 Fairways
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    I play Driver, 4 wood and 22 4 iron. I agree about the gap and am thinking about replacing the 4 iron with 22 degree hybrid.
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  • geochitowngeochitown Members  2137WRX Points: 299Handicap: 14Posts: 2,137 Platinum Tees
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    Depending on your swing speed, you could also go Driver, 17-18* fairway, then 22* iron...
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    Lead Tape lovingly applied - Driver through GW
    TEE XCG7 Beta +1* to 11.5* - Testing at 43" w/ Matrix 7M3 stiff/Driver stand-in Wishon 919THI 13* Matrix 7M3 at 42.75"
    TEE XCG7 Beta 4W 16.5* - Matrix 8M2 /5W 18* - Matrix 8M2 stiff tipped 2" at 41.75"
    OR TEE XCG7 Beta 19* H - Fujikura Fit-on Red Stiff - 85 g at 39.25"
    TEE XCG7 Beta 22*H - Diamana Thump T93 Stiff untipped at 38.75"
    TEE XCG7 Beta 25*H - Diamana Thump i465ct 4i shaft stiff 38.25"
    Wishon 560MC's 5-PW (27,31,35,39,43.5,48) at -1/2" length KBS Tour 105 Stiff
    Vokey SM4 52-08F
    Cleveland TA588 57-10 (bent to 56*, so 9* bounce)
    Vokey SM5 60-07S  
    SC Futura X5r 33' flownecked by Bastain-cerakote sniper gray-silver dots-white flange sight line-SS Flatso 2.0
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  • No_Catchy_NicknameNo_Catchy_Nickname Kyushu,_JapanMembers  6063WRX Points: 1,229Handicap: mePosts: 6,063 Titanium Tees
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    I'm like Cardoustie: Driver, 4w, 7w then 4i, but I'm also looking for a 23~24* hybrid to swap with the 4i at time.

    There's actually a reasonably big carry gap between my 7w and 4i, but I can take a bit off the 7w. It's a versatile club. Also, if I'm not hitting the 4w well from the fairway, I can still manage with the 7w and not lose that much distance.
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    4w: TaylorMade R9 stock Fujikura Motore X flex
    7w TaylorMade V-steel, Quadra Fire Express RB 6SX
    Hybrid: RomaRo iBrid 23* Attas EZ 85S
    Irons (4i-PW): Mizuno MP4 Attas 115X 4-PW (+0.5")
    Wedges: Cleveland RTX4 Forged 52* and 58*, DGS400 (both at 35.5")
    Putter: Mac Jack Nicklaus Muirfield/Taylormade TPA XVIII/Wilson 8802

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  • BearQBearQ Members  3667WRX Points: 851Posts: 3,667 Titanium Tees
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    No way dude!



    When I’ll carry my 4w, the plan is a 18-19* driving iron then 4i.

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  • offwhiteoffwhite Members  130WRX Points: 41Handicap: 7.3Posts: 130 Fairways
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    I have that set up. 17* 3HL, 20* UDi, 23* 4i.
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  • Ripper859Ripper859 Northern Kentucky / CincinnatiMembers  106WRX Points: 54Handicap: 10Posts: 106 Fairways
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    I go driver, 3hl, to 21 degree “4-iron”.
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  • weavej1weavej1 Members  141WRX Points: 152Posts: 141 Fairways
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    IF You are smashing your 4 iron 210...it’s time for Q school.
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  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New ZealandUnregistered  4286WRX Points: 377Posts: 4,286 Titanium Tees
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    weavej1 wrote:


    IF You are smashing your 4 iron 210...it's time for Q school.




    Don't "if" that. I had an i500 4-iron Sunday that went 214 metres. I didn't expect it, but it carried 200.



    I'm nowhere near Q-school. But I find it very odd that people constantly second guess others' numbers.



    And if you're wondering, I missed the eagle putt. :/
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  • Pi5seekerPi5seeker Members  887WRX Points: 120Posts: 887 Golden Tee
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    matchavez wrote:

    weavej1 wrote:


    IF You are smashing your 4 iron 210...it's time for Q school.




    Don't "if" that. I had an i500 4-iron Sunday that went 214 metres. I didn't expect it, but it carried 200.



    I'm nowhere near Q-school. But I find it very odd that people constantly second guess others' numbers.



    And if you're wondering, I missed the eagle putt. :/




    The I500 4 iron is really a 3 iron but impressive anyway.
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  • BearQBearQ Members  3667WRX Points: 851Posts: 3,667 Titanium Tees
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    matchavez wrote:

    weavej1 wrote:


    IF You are smashing your 4 iron 210...it's time for Q school.




    Don't "if" that. I had an i500 4-iron Sunday that went 214 metres. I didn't expect it, but it carried 200.



    I'm nowhere near Q-school. But I find it very odd that people constantly second guess others' numbers.



    And if you're wondering, I missed the eagle putt. :/




    my mid level private club alone, There are 20 under 16 juniors who hit 4i 210+. It’s nothing rare.
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  • TasalsTasals Members  371WRX Points: 141Handicap: 3.7Posts: 371 Greens
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    weavej1 wrote:


    IF You are smashing your 4 iron 210...it's time for Q school.




    averages! How do they work?



    If only golf was played on a launch monitor.



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    For a while I played with a 4wood and a 4 iron. I got a new set of irons replacing my starter set of X14s and 3/4/5 hybrids. When I got the new set of irons and bought myself a used driver from a club pro buddy and new adjustable 3 wood. I turned the 3wood to a 4wood because the old hybrids were going nowhere close to where I needed them too and was to bridge a gap. I dunno if it was psychological, but it was felt easier to hit a 4 wood well instead of a lower lofted 3wood.
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  • naws-golfernaws-golfer Members  1662WRX Points: 128Handicap: 3.5Posts: 1,662 Platinum Tees
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    Driver about 110-105 4 iron is 210-200. With the right loft and club combo, it’s not that tough, but it’s on the longer end of the spectrum
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  • rkelso184rkelso184 Members  326WRX Points: 169Posts: 326 Greens
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    cardoustie wrote:


    I like going Driver, 4w, 7w, then 4h or 4di ... ymmv



    hybrids are very useful for many types of shots




    Hey this is what I game in woods then have a 1 iron (purely for knock outs) then 5 onwards. I'm looking at swapping the 2 iron for something else but. Do you find your DI and 7 wood to go the same distance? Or just have both for different shots?
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2787WRX Points: 712Posts: 2,787 Titanium Tees
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    Rarely do I have an approach over 200 but almost never over 230. For this reason I don’t carry a 3wood anymore. My setup is driver, 4/5wood 17.5, 4 hybrid 22*, 5-AW irons, wedges 54* 58* 64*. If I have anything over 230 my odds of hitting the green let alone anything close is not very high. Proximity to the hole from 175+ is around 30’ on tour and 200+ is around 50’. I focus on the lower end of the bag to give me more options to score with the short game.
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  • ThreeBoxersThreeBoxers Members  165WRX Points: 48Posts: 165 Fairways
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    OP, I go Driver - 5W which is basically a 4W due to the longer shaft (nice try Taylormade) - 22* hybrid - 4i. The hybrid fills the gap between the 4/5W and longest iron.
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    Thanks to pepo who gave helpful feedback.




    weavej1 wrote:


    IF You are smashing your 4 iron 210...it's time for Q school.




    Definitely not going to Q School, although I am tall and have a high swing speed for an amateur w/ a double digit handicap. My 22* AP3 4 iron is probably more like a traditional 3 iron. it goes 210. The 5 iron goes 195. 6 iron 180. 7 iron 165. etc. The AP3 lofts are basically one club stronger than traditional. Anyway, it is nothing close to the distances 300yard drive guys are getting.
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    BiggErn wrote:


    Rarely do I have an approach over 200 but almost never over 230. For this reason I don’t carry a 3wood anymore. My setup is driver, 4/5wood 17.5, 4 hybrid 22*, 5-AW irons, wedges 54* 58* 64*. If I have anything over 230 my odds of hitting the green let alone anything close is not very high. Proximity to the hole from 175+ is around 30’ on tour and 200+ is around 50’. I focus on the lower end of the bag to give me more options to score with the short game.




    This was my thinking - seems that most disagree though.
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    3W: 15* Callaway Big Bertha Fusion w/ Recoil ES 450
    21*: Titleist 585h
    4-48*: Titleist AP3 w/ DGS300
    56*: Callaway MD3 S Grind
    60*: Vokey K Grind
    P: Tommy Armour Impact #3
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9315WRX Points: 1,469Posts: 9,315 Titanium Tees
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    BiggErn wrote:


    Rarely do I have an approach over 200 but almost never over 230. For this reason I don’t carry a 3wood anymore. My setup is driver, 4/5wood 17.5, 4 hybrid 22*, 5-AW irons, wedges 54* 58* 64*. If I have anything over 230 my odds of hitting the green let alone anything close is not very high. Proximity to the hole from 175+ is around 30’ on tour and 200+ is around 50’. I focus on the lower end of the bag to give me more options to score with the short game.




    This was my thinking - seems that most disagree though.


    At your length, unless you are playing courses over 6800 yards, you really shouldn't need anything over a 5i for any par 4 approaches. That leaves the fairway wood to par 5 approaches, and lay ups off the tee.



    You need to look at the courses you play the most and go through a yardage book and plan our an entire round based on how you typical strike the ball. If you're the type who uses driver a lot and you're comfortable with it, you can easily carry a 4w then 4i as your next clubs after driver if you're not playing longer courses. Par 5's should be no longer than 550, and unless you find a straight down wind par 5 at that length, you aren't getting there in 2 anyway unless you murder your driver if they are more than that. The courses I play are about 6400 yards and there aren't any par 5's over 550, so a good drive usually leaves me a hybrid in if I want to risk it.



    If you're like me and you do tend to get wacky with the big stick... I prefer a lower spin 3w because I will use it off the tee to get balls in the fairway but still get some decent yards. So in that case a 4w doesn't quite fit the bill. I also play traditional lofts so I need another club between the wood and my 4i to fit my gaps. If I ever get my driver under control, I will probably end up going D 4w 3-PW instead of D strong3w, hybrid, 4-PW.
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    I'm quite similar. But with an extra 4 in there



    Driver (9.5), 4 Wood (16.5 deg), 4 Hybrid (20 deg), 4 iron (22 deg)
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