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Dan Jenkins

ChrismydawgChrismydawg JLoAdvanced Members Posts: 392 ✭✭
Truly going to miss this fella. Being a younger golfer I loved following this guy on twitter. His knowledge of the history of the game was unparalleled. He was funny, snarky and never prone to hyperbole. He never exaggerated the feats of the modern golfer because he would always compare generations. I mean seriously imagine hogan and nicklaus using the modern equipment he believed they would dominate just the same. I just want to post a few things that DJ tweeted;



Top 10 Master's Finishes:

1. Nicklaus '86

2. Arnold '60

3. Hogan '53

4. Tiger '97

5. Arnold '62

6. Nicklaus '75

7. Snead '54

8. Mickelson '04

9. Crenshaw '95

10. Spieth '15



Favorite US Open Tracks:

1. Oakmont

2. Merion

3. Oakland Hills

4. Pebble Beach



Favorite Open Venues

1. Old Course

2. Carnoustie

3. Lytham

4. Hoylake

5. Muirfield

6. Troon

7. Birkdale

8. Turnberry

9. Sandwich



My favorite tweet came last year after Tommy Fleetwood finished 2nd at the US Open-He said Tommy finished as the low guitar player.



Anybody have any fond memories of this guy?
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  • dlygrissedlygrisse Advanced Members Posts: 12,942 ✭✭
    I read several of his books, Dogged Victims of Inexorable Fate, and Dead Solid Perfect. Both Classics, as well as a couple of others.



    Back when subscribing to Golf Digest was the way I got my golf fix, I always enjoyed his writing.



    One of the best quotes ever about sports journalism, not sure who it is attributed to...said. "the smaller the ball, the better the writing." This still holds true, but now maybe it's "the smaller the ball the better the websites" -dlygrisse 2019/

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  • imakaveliimakaveli Moli Moli Moli Moli Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy... Advanced Members Posts: 12,375 ✭✭
    Spieth 2015 in the top ten? Really?
  • dlygrissedlygrisse Advanced Members Posts: 12,942 ✭✭
    imakaveli wrote:


    Spieth 2015 in the top ten? Really?




    Dan was always partial to Texans.

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  • RangeballzRangeballz Advanced Members Posts: 1,588 ✭✭
    His "Dead Solid Perfect" is a hilarious book, a great light read. He'll be missed.
  • ChrismydawgChrismydawg JLo Advanced Members Posts: 392 ✭✭
    imakaveli wrote:


    Spieth 2015 in the top ten? Really?




    2nd youngest winner, wire to wire and tied the scoring record at -18. You don't think thats any good?
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,214 ✭✭
    edited March 8
    imakaveli wrote:


    Spieth 2015 in the top ten? Really?




    It was pretty spectacular that day. Only 1 other guy went as low there. How quickly we forget
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  • farmerfarmer Advanced Members Posts: 7,714 ✭✭
    Dogged Victims will make you wet your pants. Loved Dan Jenkins, sorry it's impossible for a writer to know modern players the way Jenkins knew them back in the day.
  • Darth PutterDarth Putter Advanced Members Posts: 4,181 ✭✭
    Golf Digest's tribute.



    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/his-ownself-dan-jenkins-1929-2019-tribute-dies-at-age-89





    In 2012, Jenkins became the first living sportswriter of three (Bernard Darwin of The Times of London and Herbert Warren Wind of The New Yorker the others) to be stuffed and mounted at the World Golf Hall of Fame. “I’d follow [fellow Fort Worthers] Hogan and Nelson anywhere,” he said. “I went back and looked up everybody who’s in it and did some statistics. It turns out that I have known 95 of these people when they were living. I’ve written stories about 73 of them. I’ve had cocktails and drinks with 47 of them. And I played golf with 24 of them.”
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  • HillbillyInBCHillbillyInBC Advanced Members Posts: 154 ✭✭




    Truly an epic tribute to a life well-lived. RIP.
  • Darth PutterDarth Putter Advanced Members Posts: 4,181 ✭✭
    Sports Illustrated has a collection of his articles they posted today. (including Goat Hills and Tom and Jack)



    https://www.si.com/sports-illustrated/2019/03/08/dan-jenkins-stories-sports-illustrated



    and their tribute



    https://www.si.com/golf/2019/03/08/dan-jenkins-obituary-sports-illustrated-golf-college-football-writer
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  • Anchor44Anchor44 Advanced Members Posts: 892
    He also wrote one time, at the height of Arnie worship, that he'd bet Arnie hadn't been involved in a conversation in twenty years that wasn't about Arnie.

    He wrote what he thought.
  • DpavsDpavs OverWRX'ed Advanced Members Posts: 3,292 ✭✭
    edited March 8
    I really liked this clip from Ben's Morning 9 article -



    At Woods’ peak, Jenkins wrote, “Only two things can stop him: injury or a bad marriage.” Birdie, and birdie.”



    Could he have been any more prophetic?



    Fairways and Greens forever Dan.
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  • ClintDaggerClintDagger Advanced Members Posts: 557 ✭✭
    I remember as a junior getting a GD sub and reading Dan’s stuff. Didn’t realize that he must have been 70 back then. 89 is a long life and he’ll be missed.
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  • Dave230Dave230 Advanced Members Posts: 3,714 ✭✭
    edited March 8
    He was at 232 majors, which is incredible. That's all four every year for 58 years... great writer, great insight. As someone else said, it was back in the days when writers would be able to hang out with the players for days on end and often become friends with them, but still not be afraid to write about them.



    It's sad somewhere along the line the trust between journalists and golfers has eroded so that doesn't happen anymore. Can understand that there is more sensationalising with the advent of tabloid, gutter journalism, but from my experience players today are way too guarded, defer everything to their agents and managers.



    I guess it's also an era where you can send out your own message on social media or what Tiger and a few others are doing, even your own TV channel essentially. Reminds me what Steinberg said when Jenkins wanted to meet Tiger "Don't see how we'd benefit out of it." Zero sum game.



    Players have tremendous power now, in Jenkins' time, the balance wasn't so skewed, the players wanted to be written about.
  • Mr. HoganMr. Hogan Advanced Members Posts: 1,225 ✭✭
    Did he retire?
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  • TheLarchTheLarch Major Winner Advanced Members Posts: 943 ✭✭
    He had an article in Golf Digest decades ago where all the legends of golf through the years somehow got together at the same time at The Masters. In one part of the article he wrote how the crowd marveled at Sarazen’s driver/four wood double eagle at 15, especially since everyone else was hitting driver/seven iron. I still think about that and smile when I see the 15th at Augusta. What a great writer.
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  • The Mad BomberThe Mad Bomber I seem to not like new things. Get off my lawn... Advanced Members Posts: 1,034 ✭✭
    Mr. Hogan wrote:


    Did he retire?
    He passed away.
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    wow I thought that was 15 years ago
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Advanced Members Posts: 11,367 ✭✭
    I have to say I loved some of his writing and didn't care for other parts



    His knowledge and length as part of golf and the majors is truly incredible



    Dead Solid Perfect was a fantastic book and the movie was very VERY entertaining as well (Randy Quaid). Rumored to be about Doug Sanders FWIW



    Last note, Steiny is a clown. Out of sheer respect Tiger should've sat down with Jenkins for a cocktail on a few occassions
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  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    edited March 8
    Dave230 wrote:


    He was at 232 majors, which is incredible. That's all four every year for 58 years... great writer, great insight. As someone else said, it was back in the days when writers would be able to hang out with the players for days on end and often become friends with them, but still not be afraid to write about them.



    It's sad somewhere along the line the trust between journalists and golfers has eroded so that doesn't happen anymore. Can understand that there is more sensationalising with the advent of tabloid, gutter journalism, but from my experience players today are way too guarded, defer everything to their agents and managers.



    I guess it's also an era where you can send out your own message on social media or what Tiger and a few others are doing, even your own TV channel essentially. Reminds me what Steinberg said when Jenkins wanted to meet Tiger "Don't see how we'd benefit out of it." Zero sum game.



    Players have tremendous power now, in Jenkins' time, the balance wasn't so skewed, the players wanted to be written about.




    Dan Jenkins brand of thoughtful, real journalism proliferated during a much more civil time in our society. Sportswriters protected their meal ticket's (the athletes and sports they covered). They formed relationships, gained access on a deep and meaningful level, and great pieces of writing were born from it. Writers have only themselves to blame for the inaccessibility and lack of trust that exists today. All they care about is generating traffic with hearsay, conjecture, and sensationalism. Apparently when you have to compete with (or reside in) the dim-witted, narcissistic world of social media - there is no virtue in journalistic integrity.
  • Night trainNight train Advanced Members Posts: 2,815 ✭✭
    He witnessed a lot.........and shared it with us. He was a unique talent that golf will miss!
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    edited March 8
    cardoustie wrote:


    I have to say I loved some of his writing and didn't care for other parts



    His knowledge and length as part of golf and the majors is truly incredible



    Dead Solid Perfect was a fantastic book and the movie was very VERY entertaining as well (Randy Quaid). Rumored to be about Doug Sanders FWIW



    Last note, Steiny is a clown. Out of sheer respect Tiger should've sat down with Jenkins for a cocktail on a few occassions




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  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Advanced Members Posts: 1,894 ✭✭

    cardoustie wrote:


    I have to say I loved some of his writing and didn't care for other parts



    His knowledge and length as part of golf and the majors is truly incredible



    Dead Solid Perfect was a fantastic book and the movie was very VERY entertaining as well (Randy Quaid). Rumored to be about Doug Sanders FWIW



    Last note, Steiny is a clown. Out of sheer respect Tiger should've sat down with Jenkins for a cocktail on a few occassions




    Bad Hair Wimberly!




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    cardoustie wrote:


    I have to say I loved some of his writing and didn't care for other parts



    His knowledge and length as part of golf and the majors is truly incredible



    Dead Solid Perfect was a fantastic book and the movie was very VERY entertaining as well (Randy Quaid). Rumored to be about Doug Sanders FWIW



    Last note, Steiny is a clown. Out of sheer respect Tiger should've sat down with Jenkins for a cocktail on a few occassions




    Bad Hair Wimberly!




    Um...Janie Rimmer...




    “Janie Ruth lost her scholarship”. I know where she can transfer to!
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  • SixcatSixcat Advanced Members Posts: 1,409 ✭✭
    edited March 8
    His assertion that his good friend, George H. W. Bush “thinks he used to be president” is still funny however many years later.



    Rest easy Mr. Jenkins. My “ownself” is gonna miss your wit and charm.



    I think I will watch “Dead Solid Perfect” tonight.
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    Sixcat wrote:


    His assertion that his good friend, George H. W. Bush “thinks he used to be president” is still funny however many years later.



    Rest easy Mr. Jenkins. My “ownself” is gonna miss your wit and charm.



    I think I’ll watch “Dead Solid Perfect” tonight.




    Lucky you.



    I found my copy a while back, but don’t have a VCR.



    I saw the movie long before iever read the book. Still one of my favorite all time movies.



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  • SixcatSixcat Advanced Members Posts: 1,409 ✭✭

    Sixcat wrote:


    His assertion that his good friend, George H. W. Bush “thinks he used to be president” is still funny however many years later.



    Rest easy Mr. Jenkins. My “ownself” is gonna miss your wit and charm.



    I think I’ll watch “Dead Solid Perfect” tonight.




    Lucky you.



    I found my copy a while back, but don’t have a VCR.



    I saw the movie long before iever read the book. Still one of my favorite all time movies.



    My user name is a takeoff from the title, with a little editing to more accurately reflect my game.




    I transferred it to DVD years ago. Watch it at least once a year.
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    Sixcat wrote:


    Sixcat wrote:


    His assertion that his good friend, George H. W. Bush “thinks he used to be president” is still funny however many years later.



    Rest easy Mr. Jenkins. My “ownself” is gonna miss your wit and charm.



    I think I’ll watch “Dead Solid Perfect” tonight.




    Lucky you.



    I found my copy a while back, but don’t have a VCR.



    I saw the movie long before iever read the book. Still one of my favorite all time movies.



    My user name is a takeoff from the title, with a little editing to more accurately reflect my game.




    I transferred it to DVD years ago. Watch it at least once a year.




    Smart. I never managed to do that.
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  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Advanced Members Posts: 1,894 ✭✭

    Sixcat wrote:


    His assertion that his good friend, George H. W. Bush “thinks he used to be president” is still funny however many years later.



    Rest easy Mr. Jenkins. My “ownself” is gonna miss your wit and charm.



    I think I’ll watch “Dead Solid Perfect” tonight.




    Lucky you.




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    Sixcat wrote:


    His assertion that his good friend, George H. W. Bush “thinks he used to be president” is still funny however many years later.



    Rest easy Mr. Jenkins. My “ownself” is gonna miss your wit and charm.



    I think I’ll watch “Dead Solid Perfect” tonight.




    Lucky you.




    **** on luck. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




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  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Advanced Members Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    Shank, I'm in your same boat re: VHS. Mine wouldn't work even if I had a VCR. I think I got it when I was 13, and the ice machine scene was viewed one too many times.



    FYI, not long ago, I was able to kind of piece it together using various YouTube vids others had uploaded.



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    Shank, I'm in your same boat re: VHS. Mine wouldn't work even if I had a VCR. I think I got it when I was 13, and the ice machine scene was viewed one too many times.



    FYI, not long ago, I was able to kind of piece it together using various YouTube vids others had uploaded.




    I remeber my first copy was taped off a free HBO weekend, so it had advertising scrolling across the bottom quite often. I bought a copy on eBay several years ago (maybe more than several). I think that is the one I found. We had VHS tapes in about three different buildings and now I don’t remeber where I ended up putting it.
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  • imakaveliimakaveli Moli Moli Moli Moli Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy... Advanced Members Posts: 12,375 ✭✭

    imakaveli wrote:


    Spieth 2015 in the top ten? Really?




    2nd youngest winner, wire to wire and tied the scoring record at -18. You don't think thats any good?




    Of course it was good, it was outstanding.

    Top 10 Masters? No way.
  • lumberman2462lumberman2462 Advanced Members Posts: 5,297 ✭✭
    Jenkins was a great writer. He got a little cranky in his later years....but who doesn’t?



    Still, having a job that paid you to go to golf tournaments for 60 years; Not a bad gig.



    Dead Solid Perfect (the movie) needs another run on HBO.

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    I thought I read he wanted on his tombstone.



    " I knew this would happen."



    I wish I could have had a bunch of beers with him. Lucky to have grown up with him writing in the Washington Post.
  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Advanced Members Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    imakaveli wrote:


    imakaveli wrote:


    Spieth 2015 in the top ten? Really?




    2nd youngest winner, wire to wire and tied the scoring record at -18. You don't think thats any good?




    Of course it was good, it was outstanding.

    Top 10 Masters? No way.




    Which one belongs in the 10 slot? How many were better than JS in 2015? What are they?
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  • ghostriderghostrider Advanced Members Posts: 217 ✭✭
    Loved his comment about Goat Hills when they were razing it for development. The bulldozers finally proved it was possible to take a divot.
  • Ronnie MundtRonnie Mundt Members Posts: 67
    Talented guy, rare in the current world of sports “journalism” which usually means writing about what some dumb athlete posted on their twitter or instagram account. Jenkins was a professional.



    Smoked and drank (I think) pretty much his entire adult life. Almost 90 is impressive. Godspeed, sir.
  • dhc1dhc1 Advanced Members Posts: 876
    I can’t stand Jenkins even since his bald face racist comments a dozen years ago. Quit Golf Digest because of it.
  • Steele47Steele47 Advanced Members Posts: 1,133 ✭✭
    Oh boy....
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    edited March 8
    And we’re off..........til it’s locked.
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  • Big Cat 3Big Cat 3 Advanced Members Posts: 461 ✭✭
    **** I honestly thought Jenkins died 15 years ago
  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Advanced Members Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    I've been writing posts all day for you people, I'm gonna write this one for myself:







    Do you think I should switch to a heel-shafted putter? I read somewhere that no great putter ever used a center shaft.
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  • tdk8180tdk8180 Advanced Members Posts: 2,392
    I will not speak ill of the dead.



    I never read more than a few sentences of his articles.



    I just know he disliked Tiger for some reason.



    That is all I know.
  • Darth PutterDarth Putter Advanced Members Posts: 4,181 ✭✭
    The full SI Vault of his stories.



    Lots of golf articles from the 1970s and 1980s from the majors to a World Match Play in London to the Skins Game.



    https://www.si.com/vault-authors/dan-jenkins
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  • Big Cat 3Big Cat 3 Advanced Members Posts: 461 ✭✭
    tdk8180 wrote:


    I will not speak ill of the dead.



    I never read more than a few sentences of his articles.



    I just know he disliked Tiger for some reason.



    That is all I know.


    Jenkins made up his hate for Big Cat with his unbridled love for Hogan ... he loved him a lot of Hogan
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    I've been writing posts all day for you people, I'm gonna write this one for myself:







    Do you think I should switch to a heel-shafted putter? I read somewhere that no great putter ever used a center shaft.




    I’m so ashamed of myself, I can’t remember. Something to the effect of, “yeah that Hogan guy wasn’t too bad”?
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  • Big Cat 3Big Cat 3 Advanced Members Posts: 461 ✭✭


    The full SI Vault of his stories.



    Lots of golf articles from the 1970s and 1980s from the majors to a World Match Play in London to the Skins Game.



    [url="https://www.si.com/vault-authors/dan-jenkins"]https://www.si.com/vault-authors/dan-jenkins[/url]
    After looking at some of these past articles ... this guy must had known the right people because those are not very good and poorly written. He certainly was no Jim Murray or Rick Reilly.



  • Ashley SchaefferAshley Schaeffer Advanced Members Posts: 1,894 ✭✭



    I've been writing posts all day for you people, I'm gonna write this one for myself:







    Do you think I should switch to a heel-shafted putter? I read somewhere that no great putter ever used a center shaft.




    I’m so ashamed of myself, I can’t remember. Something to the effect of, “yeah that Hogan guy wasn’t too bad”?




    Yep.

    Then, "Hogan was a better player than he was a putter." Then, Smitheren scolding Grover for playing slowly. Man, I miss that movie. Grover trying to pick up girls in the bar talking about the move from hickory to steel shafts!
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  • Darth PutterDarth Putter Advanced Members Posts: 4,181 ✭✭
    Big Cat 3 wrote:

    tdk8180 wrote:


    I will not speak ill of the dead.



    I never read more than a few sentences of his articles.



    I just know he disliked Tiger for some reason.



    That is all I know.


    Jenkins made up his hate for Big Cat with his unbridled love for Hogan ... he loved him a lot of Hogan




    He once took $6 off of Hogan in a $2 Nassau.
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