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  • jah7838jah7838 Members  1319WRX Points: 228Posts: 1,319 Platinum Tees
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    I've been using the 52* bent to 53*, and the 56* bent to 58* all year the entire season. Both of them are the MID options, with the 52* being chrome and the 56* being the raw finish, and I see no reason to change. They're very reliable and the spin is great for me. I did have the 58* mid before getting the 56* and bending it week. I had issues digging with it, and the 56* bent weak fixed that for me. I can still open it up and hit high shots off of tight lies if need be. I'm probably going to order 1 more 52* (this time in raw vs. chrome) and 2 more 56* mid before Christmas. I really like them, and don't want to try and find another wedge that works for me for a while.

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    WITB
    Driver: 9.5* M3 Aldila Tour Green 65s or Evenflow White t1100 65s 
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour 3 wood set to 15* with Aldila 2kxv Blue 7s or Cobra F6 Baffler set to 16.5* with Proforce V2 7f4
    Hybrids: 19* Adams XTD Super Hybrid VTS 100s or 20* Adams Super Pro with AD DI 95s , 23* Adams Super 9031 S300 (swap with 4 iron on occasion, but the hybrid is usually in the bag)
    Irons: 4 (DG Pro s300), 5-PW Ben Hoga PTx Pro DGTI S400
    Wedges: 48* bent to 49* Hogan TK wedge, RTX 4 52* bent to 53* Mid, and New Level Golf 58*. All wedges have DGTI S400
    Putter: Toulon Las Vegas or Kingston KP1 Carbon Oil Can Finish
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  • NorbooNorboo Members  2345WRX Points: 159Handicap: 12Posts: 2,345 Platinum Tees
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    Anyone own the black finish? Does it wear off or can I dip it in coke/vinegar to get it to raw finish?

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993
  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ FloridaMembers  5504WRX Points: 527Handicap: 6.3 HCIPosts: 5,504 Titanium Tees
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    Like the black, boxes in the ball at set up, and no glare. Considering a 58* to go with
    The 52* I have now. Solid wedge.

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  • nilopolnilopol Members  702WRX Points: 39Posts: 702 Golden Tee
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    Interesting about the digging comment. I wish they sold the 54 with more than 10 bounce

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  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members  4263WRX Points: 537Handicap: 8.2Posts: 4,263 Titanium Tees
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    I struggled with the RTX4 58* mid as well, constantly digging. I didn't feel there was enough heel relief in the grind. At first I thought the s400 was a little too heavy, but I went to a DG 115 and still struggled.

    Replaced it wit a Vokey Jet Black SM7 58 M grind and no more issues wit digging.

    Don't seem to have the problem with the RTX4 54 mid, but with the Vokeys marked down, I picked up a SM7 54M to try as well.

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    Ping G400 10.5 (9.5) Hzrdus Yellow 75 5.5
    Callaway Rogue 17* 4wd Atmos Blue TS 70  
    Ping G410 19*, 22* & 26* Tensei CK Pro Blue 80
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW SteelFiber i95CW R (2019 Forged Tec Modus 105 R trial run ) 
    Vokey SM7 50/8 F
    Vokey SM7 54/8 M 
    Vokey SM7 58/8 M 
    Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)/ Bettinardi BB1/ '16 Tiki
     Wilson Staff FG Tour/ Bridgestone Tour B RXS / ProV1
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members  4263WRX Points: 537Handicap: 8.2Posts: 4,263 Titanium Tees
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    FYI, it looks like they've been marked down, so maybe a replacement on the way....

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    Ping G400 10.5 (9.5) Hzrdus Yellow 75 5.5
    Callaway Rogue 17* 4wd Atmos Blue TS 70  
    Ping G410 19*, 22* & 26* Tensei CK Pro Blue 80
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW SteelFiber i95CW R (2019 Forged Tec Modus 105 R trial run ) 
    Vokey SM7 50/8 F
    Vokey SM7 54/8 M 
    Vokey SM7 58/8 M 
    Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)/ Bettinardi BB1/ '16 Tiki
     Wilson Staff FG Tour/ Bridgestone Tour B RXS / ProV1
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  • COmedicCOmedic Members  193WRX Points: 70Posts: 193 Fairways
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    Also curious on this. I own the black since I’m a lefty and we don’t get the sweet raw finish. Would love to strip it but unsure if it can come off cleanly or no?

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  • smithy23smithy23 UKMembers  75WRX Points: 63Handicap: 10.9Posts: 75 Fairways
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    Have been using the RTX4's raw 54 mid bounce 60 low bounce since summer (June) and changed from TM HI-Toe.

    Fact i could put modus 120 Shaft in at no upcharge was massive for me as such a preference and have them bent 1* flat , my standard irons are 1* upright so i find this helps for the range of shots i may play with the wedges.

    Firstly for me they have been very confidence inspiring and i love the classic look , perhaps the TM i felt in my head although good were a bit gimicky ? (who knows alot of that is between the ears ) but deffo feel the 4's have been a worthy investment.

    The 60 low bounce not as forgiving in the wet soft conditions for me but through summer months it was great for me , our course is only a par 66 lots of short tough holes and its helped improve my up and downs noticeably this year.


    Wear has been good too even in the raw they are just starting to patina in areas adding to the look. The weight i feel is spot on didnt like the RTX 3 it felt clunky to me but worth trying out if you can but they get a thumbs up from me.


    Hope this helps

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      Bag 1                                                                     Bag 2        

     Cobra Speedzone 9* Ventus Black 6X              ST190G 9* Atmos TS 6X 
     Callaway Mavrik 4wd 16.5* Oban Isawa            TM UDI 17* Tour AD-DI 
     Adams Super 9031 20* Diamana S                    Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 20* Oban Isawa
     HMB 5-6 TT X100 White AMT                           JPX 900 Tour 4-PW C Taper Lite X
     MMC 7-PW TT X100 White AMT                       TM HiToe 52/57 
    Callaway Jaws 52 / 58 S300                              TM Spider X Copper
    Evnroll ER1
    TP5




    Set of Vapor Pro Blades as Backup Slightly Tweaked! 
  • birdiestobogeysbirdiestobogeys Members  52WRX Points: 28Posts: 52 Bunkers
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    For clubs that need to be replaced as much as wedges do these seem like a no brainer. carls just dropped their price to under $100 which is about half of vokey raws.

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  • DFS PFDDFS PFD Members  1699WRX Points: 964Handicap: 1.8Posts: 1,699 Platinum Tees
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    What is the X low grind like? Versatile and easy to open? What's closest to L or M grind Vokey?

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    SIM 8* Ventus Black 6X
    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* SM8 Raw
    61* SM8 Raw
    L.A.B 2.1 

  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX  3035WRX Points: 509Handicap: 7.6Posts: 3,035 ClubWRX
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    i would say X-Low would match up to L grind and the Low would be the M. I find the Low 58 to be quite versatile, don’t feel like I need the X Low. YMMV.

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    Ping G30 SFT driver, 10 degree, Oban Kiyoshi HB 75 stiff
    Cobra F9 Speedback, 14.5 degree, Fujikura Atmos Blue 7S
    Callaway Epic Flash, 17 degree, HzRDUS Smoke 70 stiff
    Callaway Rogue, 21 degree, Diamana BF 80 stiff
    TaylorMade GAPR Hi 24, KBS TGI 80 stiff

    Srixon z765 (5-7(, z965 (8-P) Fujikura 95i TS stiff
    Callaway MD4 50 S grind, 54 W grind
    Ben Hogan Ft. Worth TK 58
    Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line putter w/Pure grip
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  • nilopolnilopol Members  702WRX Points: 39Posts: 702 Golden Tee
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    Interesting about the digging comment. I wish they sold the 54 with more than 10 bounce

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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers  2555WRX Points: 777Handicap: 0.9Posts: 2,555 Titanium Tees
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    They do, buy a 52 with 10 degrees of bounce and bend it to 54. If you need more than 2 additional degrees of bounce, special order a 50 and have them bend it to 54.

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    Driver: Ping G410 Plus w/Tensei Orange
    3 Wood: Titleist TS2 w/HZRDUS Smoke
    Hybrid: Titleist 718 H2 w/Atmos Blue TS 
    Irons: Ping iBlade Nippon AWT 2.0 Stiff
    Wedges: Callaway MD3 50, 54, and 58
    Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
    Ball: Bridgestone XS
  • DFS PFDDFS PFD Members  1699WRX Points: 964Handicap: 1.8Posts: 1,699 Platinum Tees
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    SIM 8* Ventus Black 6X
    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* SM8 Raw
    61* SM8 Raw
    L.A.B 2.1 

  • skuyperskuyper Members  86WRX Points: 18Handicap: 1.7Posts: 86 Fairways
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    Best wedges i've owned. mid bounce is very versatile. love the feel and trajectory.

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    Driver: G400max. 9* Kuro Kage DC TINI 70x

    3W: Great Big Bertha 15*. Fujikara Pro Tour spec 83x

    3i: Bridgestone tour B X-HI KBS prototype 83x

    4-PW: Mizzuno MP-59 KBS Ctaper 130x

    Wedges: Glide 2.0 50, 55, 60 (all SS) DG tour issue S400

    Putter Odyssey 7s 34"

  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX  3035WRX Points: 509Handicap: 7.6Posts: 3,035 ClubWRX
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    I do this all the time to get the loft/bounce I want. Works great. Not hard at all to add 2 degrees of bounce to any wedge and it won’t hurt the playability.

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    Ping G30 SFT driver, 10 degree, Oban Kiyoshi HB 75 stiff
    Cobra F9 Speedback, 14.5 degree, Fujikura Atmos Blue 7S
    Callaway Epic Flash, 17 degree, HzRDUS Smoke 70 stiff
    Callaway Rogue, 21 degree, Diamana BF 80 stiff
    TaylorMade GAPR Hi 24, KBS TGI 80 stiff

    Srixon z765 (5-7(, z965 (8-P) Fujikura 95i TS stiff
    Callaway MD4 50 S grind, 54 W grind
    Ben Hogan Ft. Worth TK 58
    Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line putter w/Pure grip
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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge Members  2677WRX Points: 285Handicap: +.7Posts: 2,677 Titanium Tees
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    Ordered a 50/54/58 raw set 2 weeks and just got notice they are out of the raw. How are people liking the other finishes??

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    Taylormade SIM 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Taylormade M6 Tensei Pro Orange V3 70TX
    Ping G410 19* Hybrid Tensei PO 100TX
    Mizuno JPX 919 Forged/Tour 4/5, 6-PW MODUS 120x
    Honma TW W4 52/56/60 Modus 125 Wedge
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    Snell MTB X
    Ping Hoofer Multicam
  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ FloridaMembers  5504WRX Points: 527Handicap: 6.3 HCIPosts: 5,504 Titanium Tees
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    Really like the black, frames the ball well

    Finish is holding up better than I thought it would.

    Great wedges

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    Play Golf.....Play Blades......Play Something Else.....Just Go Play.....

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  • tigerfan23tigerfan23 Members  8017WRX Points: 363Posts: 8,017 Titanium Tees
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    i will order a new set tomorrow.


    Played 52 56 60 standard bounce all year and loved them. Going to do same setup for 2020 but black this time.

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    SIM MAX 10.5 TOUR AD DI 6
    SIM MAX FAIRWAY 15 TOUR AD DI 7
    SIM MAX HYBRID 19 TOUR AD DI 85

    TITLEIST T100 3-PW PX 6.0
    VOKEY SM8 CHROME 52 56S 60M PX6.0

    2 BALL TRIPLE TRACK

  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members  653WRX Points: 89Handicap: 10Posts: 653 Golden Tee
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    Raw is out of stock on cleveland.com, is there a rtx5 coming? Or rtx4 forged?

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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge Members  2677WRX Points: 285Handicap: +.7Posts: 2,677 Titanium Tees
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    I believe the next cycle is due for release September 2020.

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    Taylormade SIM 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Taylormade M6 Tensei Pro Orange V3 70TX
    Ping G410 19* Hybrid Tensei PO 100TX
    Mizuno JPX 919 Forged/Tour 4/5, 6-PW MODUS 120x
    Honma TW W4 52/56/60 Modus 125 Wedge
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    Snell MTB X
    Ping Hoofer Multicam
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  • tbonetwtbonetw Members  443WRX Points: 122Posts: 443 Greens
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    I have the raw in 52 and 58 degree. I love mine. Both of mine are the mid bounce. That's what I've always played. And admittedly I can't speak on every brand. Wedges tend to stay in my bag until they're worn out. I played Cleveland wedges for years, then went to Vokeys. Had one set of Mizunos several years ago, but went back to Vokeys. I got these a few months ago and I love everything about them. I definitely haven't had any digging problems. Actually I think the turf interaction is perfect although I don't get very steep with wedges so I really haven't had digging problems with any wedges. If I do, I know before I even made contact it was me, not the wedge. I love the shape and I personally think the TI S400 is fantastic for wedges. Wish I'd thought of that years ago. And out of the sand I've found it to be brilliant. Frankly I find them superior to my last set of Vokeys (Sm6) in every way.

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    TM SIM 9* PX Smoke Green 70S
    TM SIM 15* Diamana Limited 75S
    Titleist U510 PX Smoke S
    Titleist T200 4-GW Tensei Blue AV S
    Titleist SM7 52*,58*
    Wilson West Loop
    Taylormade TP5X
  • odshot68odshot68 MIMembers  8117WRX Points: 223Handicap: +.7Posts: 8,117 Titanium Tees
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    KGeorge, no more vokeys???

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    Ping G410 LST 9 deg Diamana RF 60X
    Callaway XR Pro 18 deg hybrid VTS Silver 85X
    Titleist 718 T-MB #3 TI DG S400
    Mizuno MP 20 MB 5-PW TI DG S400
    Vokey SM8 Black 54D & 60D TI DG S400 Black Onyx
    Callaway PM Grind 19 Tour 64 TI DG S400 Black Onyx
    Bettinardi SS-12 Black Center Shaft Putter
    Vessel 2.0 White

  • NorbooNorboo Members  2345WRX Points: 159Handicap: 12Posts: 2,345 Platinum Tees
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    I have the 50 head only in Raw and debating if I want to go with Chrome Satin to match my 54 and 58. Hindsight, don't buy on impulse. LOL

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993
  • odshot68odshot68 MIMembers  8117WRX Points: 223Handicap: +.7Posts: 8,117 Titanium Tees
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    Is the v grind rtx 4 similar to the vokey v grind?

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    Ping G410 LST 9 deg Diamana RF 60X
    Callaway XR Pro 18 deg hybrid VTS Silver 85X
    Titleist 718 T-MB #3 TI DG S400
    Mizuno MP 20 MB 5-PW TI DG S400
    Vokey SM8 Black 54D & 60D TI DG S400 Black Onyx
    Callaway PM Grind 19 Tour 64 TI DG S400 Black Onyx
    Bettinardi SS-12 Black Center Shaft Putter
    Vessel 2.0 White

  • Mainehacker21Mainehacker21 MaineMembers  88WRX Points: 22Posts: 88 Fairways
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    Weighing the 58 in low vs mid bounce. I like a low bounce around the green and in the sand but I'm not sure how well it will do with full or 3/4 shots. How well can you open up the mid bounce 58's or 60's for flop shots?

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  • themasters78themasters78 Members  36WRX Points: 20Posts: 36 Bunkers
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    i love these wedges. They are just slighly larger than vokeys but that small increase in size helps 10x in confidence department

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  • COmedicCOmedic Members  193WRX Points: 70Posts: 193 Fairways
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    I have the mid and low 58. I love the low when the ground is especially hard, but otherwise prefer and play the mid better. This winter has been mild enough to play some hard course conditions and swapping over to the low has helped in that case.

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  • GrandmasterJGrandmasterJ Members  57WRX Points: 34Handicap: 5.6Posts: 57 Bunkers
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    I recently made the switch to the RTX 4 50 54 58 in Satin Black. My friend was telling me that there are different feels when it comes to the 3 finishes that Cleveland offers. I am just curious since I have that PGA Tour Superstore 90 day playability, is there really a difference? My last set of wedges were the tour chrome SM6 and they aged pretty well for 1.5 years. I guess I am looking for which RTX 4 finish would produce the softest feel. Black finish is pretty soft but havent had the chance to try out the tour raw or the tour satin chrome. Thanks for the input everyone! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

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    Ping G410 Plus 9 Degree HZRDUS Black 6.0
    Ping G410 3 Wood 14.5 Degree HZRDUS Black 6.0 Handcrafted
    Ping G410 3 Hybrid 19 Degree HZRDUS Black 6.0
    Titleist 620 CB 4-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issued S400
    Titleist SM8 Tour Chrome 50F/8 bounce, 56S/10 bounce, 60S/10 bounce Dynamic Gold Tour Issued S400
    2020 Bettinardi BB8W Limited Run Blacked Out/2016 Bettinardi BB8
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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge Members  2677WRX Points: 285Handicap: +.7Posts: 2,677 Titanium Tees
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    To ,make the decision a bit easier you cannot get the raw any more. To give you some real world findings, I've had both the raw and black an could not tell a difference. I actually think the black may be a bit softer if anything.

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    Taylormade SIM 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Taylormade M6 Tensei Pro Orange V3 70TX
    Ping G410 19* Hybrid Tensei PO 100TX
    Mizuno JPX 919 Forged/Tour 4/5, 6-PW MODUS 120x
    Honma TW W4 52/56/60 Modus 125 Wedge
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    Snell MTB X
    Ping Hoofer Multicam
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