Cleveland RTX 4 Long Term Reviews ??

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  • jah7838jah7838  1159WRX Points: 182Members Posts: 1,159
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    I've been using the 52* bent to 53*, and the 56* bent to 58* all year the entire season. Both of them are the MID options, with the 52* being chrome and the 56* being the raw finish, and I see no reason to change. They're very reliable and the spin is great for me. I did have the 58* mid before getting the 56* and bending it week. I had issues digging with it, and the 56* bent weak fixed that for me. I can still open it up and hit high shots off of tight lies if need be. I'm probably going to order 1 more 52* (this time in raw vs. chrome) and 2 more 56* mid before Christmas. I really like them, and don't want to try and find another wedge that works for me for a while.

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    WITB
    Driver: 9.5* M3 Speeder 757 Speeder Evolution Tour Spec Stiff Flex
    Fairway: Cobra F6 Baffler set to 17.5* with Motore Speeder 8.3 Stiff
    Hybrids: 19* Adams XTD Super Hybrid VTS 100s/Adams XTD Dhy 21* VTS 100s, 23* Adams Super 9031 S300
    Irons: 5-PW Ben Hoga PTx Pro DGTI S400
    Wedges: 48* bent to 49* Hogan TK wedge, 52* bent to 53* Mid and 56* bent to 58* RTX 4. All wedges have DGTI S400
    Putter: Odyssey O Works #7 or Kingston KP1 Carbon Oil Can Finish
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  • NorbooNorboo  2319WRX Points: 151Handicap: 12Members Posts: 2,319
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    Anyone own the black finish? Does it wear off or can I dip it in coke/vinegar to get it to raw finish?

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F3 and F5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland CBX2 50, RTX4 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993
  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ Florida 5354WRX Points: 457Handicap: 4Members Posts: 5,354
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    Like the black, boxes in the ball at set up, and no glare. Considering a 58* to go with
    The 52* I have now. Solid wedge.

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  • nilopolnilopol  700WRX Points: 39Members Posts: 700
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    Interesting about the digging comment. I wish they sold the 54 with more than 10 bounce

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  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now) 4048WRX Points: 411Handicap: 10Members Posts: 4,048
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    I struggled with the RTX4 58* mid as well, constantly digging. I didn't feel there was enough heel relief in the grind. At first I thought the s400 was a little too heavy, but I went to a DG 115 and still struggled.

    Replaced it wit a Vokey Jet Black SM7 58 M grind and no more issues wit digging.

    Don't seem to have the problem with the RTX4 54 mid, but with the Vokeys marked down, I picked up a SM7 54M to try as well.

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    Ping G400 10.5 (9.5) Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS 
    G 410 19*, 22* & 26* Tensei CK Pro Blue 80s
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
    Vokey SM7 54/8 M 
    Vokey SM7 58/8 M 
    Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)/ Bettinardi BB1
    Chrome Soft / TourB RXS / FG Tour
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now) 4048WRX Points: 411Handicap: 10Members Posts: 4,048
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    FYI, it looks like they've been marked down, so maybe a replacement on the way....

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    Ping G400 10.5 (9.5) Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS 
    G 410 19*, 22* & 26* Tensei CK Pro Blue 80s
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
    Vokey SM7 54/8 M 
    Vokey SM7 58/8 M 
    Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)/ Bettinardi BB1
    Chrome Soft / TourB RXS / FG Tour
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  • COmedicCOmedic  124WRX Points: 54Members Posts: 124
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    Also curious on this. I own the black since I’m a lefty and we don’t get the sweet raw finish. Would love to strip it but unsure if it can come off cleanly or no?

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  • smithy23smithy23 UK 64WRX Points: 53Handicap: 10.9Members Posts: 64
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    Have been using the RTX4's raw 54 mid bounce 60 low bounce since summer (June) and changed from TM HI-Toe.

    Fact i could put modus 120 Shaft in at no upcharge was massive for me as such a preference and have them bent 1* flat , my standard irons are 1* upright so i find this helps for the range of shots i may play with the wedges.

    Firstly for me they have been very confidence inspiring and i love the classic look , perhaps the TM i felt in my head although good were a bit gimicky ? (who knows alot of that is between the ears ) but deffo feel the 4's have been a worthy investment.

    The 60 low bounce not as forgiving in the wet soft conditions for me but through summer months it was great for me , our course is only a par 66 lots of short tough holes and its helped improve my up and downs noticeably this year.


    Wear has been good too even in the raw they are just starting to patina in areas adding to the look. The weight i feel is spot on didnt like the RTX 3 it felt clunky to me but worth trying out if you can but they get a thumbs up from me.


    Hope this helps

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    M6 12.5* Oban Isawa
    F9 -4Wood 16* Oban Isawa
    Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 20* Tour AD-DI 
    Cobra F8 Utility 3# 18.5* TT AMT White 
     MP18 Fli HI 5# KBS C Taper Lite X
    JPX 900 Tour 6-PW C Taper Lite X
    RTX 4 Wedges 50/54/60 Modus 120 S
    Evnroll ER1
    TP5


    Set of Vapor Pro Blades as Backup Slightly Tweaked! 
  • birdiestobogeysbirdiestobogeys  25WRX Points: 24Members Posts: 25
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    For clubs that need to be replaced as much as wedges do these seem like a no brainer. carls just dropped their price to under $100 which is about half of vokey raws.

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  • DFS PFDDFS PFD  1354WRX Points: 538Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 1,354
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    What is the X low grind like? Versatile and easy to open? What's closest to L or M grind Vokey?

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    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* MG Raw Tour issue S400
    60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
    TOULON Garage San Diego

  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC  2615WRX Points: 309Handicap: 8ClubWRX Posts: 2,615
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    i would say X-Low would match up to L grind and the Low would be the M. I find the Low 58 to be quite versatile, don’t feel like I need the X Low. YMMV.

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    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
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  • nilopolnilopol  700WRX Points: 39Members Posts: 700
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    Interesting about the digging comment. I wish they sold the 54 with more than 10 bounce

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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, Florida 2370WRX Points: 635Handicap: 0.9Members Posts: 2,370
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    They do, buy a 52 with 10 degrees of bounce and bend it to 54. If you need more than 2 additional degrees of bounce, special order a 50 and have them bend it to 54.

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    Driver: Ping G410 Plus w/Tensei Orange
    3 Wood: Titleist TS2 w/HZRDUS Smoke
    Hybrid: Titleist 718 H2 w/Atmos Blue TS 
    Irons: Ping iBlade Nippon AWT 2.0 Stiff
    Wedges: Callaway MD3 50, 54, and 58
    Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
    Ball: Bridgestone XS
  • DFS PFDDFS PFD  1354WRX Points: 538Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 1,354
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    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* MG Raw Tour issue S400
    60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
    TOULON Garage San Diego

  • skuyperskuyper  82WRX Points: 18Handicap: 1.7Members Posts: 82
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    Best wedges i've owned. mid bounce is very versatile. love the feel and trajectory.

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    Driver: G400max. 9* Kuro Kage DC TINI 70x

    3W: Great Big Bertha 15*. Fujikara Pro Tour spec 83x

    3i: Bridgestone tour B X-HI KBS prototype 83x

    4-PW: Mizzuno MP-59 KBS Ctaper 130x

    Wedges: Glide 2.0 50, 55, 60 (all SS) DG tour issue S400

    Putter Odyssey 7s 34"

  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC  2615WRX Points: 309Handicap: 8ClubWRX Posts: 2,615
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    I do this all the time to get the loft/bounce I want. Works great. Not hard at all to add 2 degrees of bounce to any wedge and it won’t hurt the playability.

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    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge  2508WRX Points: 220Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 2,508
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    Ordered a 50/54/58 raw set 2 weeks and just got notice they are out of the raw. How are people liking the other finishes??

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    Ping G410 LST Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* (set to 16*) Diamana BF 70TX
    Srixon U85 20* Recoil 95 F
    Srixon z585 4i/5i KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Srixon z785 6-PW KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 KBS 610 125
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    '19 Pro V1x
    Jones Player Series Heather Brown
  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ Florida 5354WRX Points: 457Handicap: 4Members Posts: 5,354
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    Really like the black, frames the ball well

    Finish is holding up better than I thought it would.

    Great wedges

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  • kgeorge78kgeorge78  7929WRX Points: 300Members Posts: 7,929
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    i will order a new set tomorrow.


    Played 52 56 60 standard bounce all year and loved them. Going to do same setup for 2020 but black this time.

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  • Rpete33Rpete33  576WRX Points: 70Handicap: 18Members Posts: 576
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    Raw is out of stock on cleveland.com, is there a rtx5 coming? Or rtx4 forged?

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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge  2508WRX Points: 220Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 2,508
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    I believe the next cycle is due for release September 2020.

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    Ping G410 LST Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* (set to 16*) Diamana BF 70TX
    Srixon U85 20* Recoil 95 F
    Srixon z585 4i/5i KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Srixon z785 6-PW KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 KBS 610 125
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    '19 Pro V1x
    Jones Player Series Heather Brown
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  • tbonetwtbonetw  408WRX Points: 103Members Posts: 408
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    I have the raw in 52 and 58 degree. I love mine. Both of mine are the mid bounce. That's what I've always played. And admittedly I can't speak on every brand. Wedges tend to stay in my bag until they're worn out. I played Cleveland wedges for years, then went to Vokeys. Had one set of Mizunos several years ago, but went back to Vokeys. I got these a few months ago and I love everything about them. I definitely haven't had any digging problems. Actually I think the turf interaction is perfect although I don't get very steep with wedges so I really haven't had digging problems with any wedges. If I do, I know before I even made contact it was me, not the wedge. I love the shape and I personally think the TI S400 is fantastic for wedges. Wish I'd thought of that years ago. And out of the sand I've found it to be brilliant. Frankly I find them superior to my last set of Vokeys (Sm6) in every way.

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    Titleist TS3 9.5* PX Smoke
    Titleist 917 F2 13.5* PX Evenflow
    Adams Super LSP 17* Kuro Kage
    Adams Super LSP 20* Kuro Kage
    Srixon Z585/785 4-PW Modus 120
    Cleveland RTX 4.0 52* 58* TI S400
    Cleveland Frontline ISO putter
    Titleist Pro V1X
  • odshot68odshot68 MI 8012WRX Points: 200Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 8,012
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    KGeorge, no more vokeys???

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    Titleist TS3 10.5 Tensei Blue 55X SFW
    Titleist TS2 13.5 & 18 Tensei Blue 65X
    Titleist TS3 21 deg Diamana D+ 95X Hybrid
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5-PW DG S300
    Vokey SM7 52.12F, 56.10S, 60.04L or 60.10S DGS200
    Taylor Made Spider X Chalk Putter
    Golf Pride Tour Velvet Align
    Titleist Pro V1

  • NorbooNorboo  2319WRX Points: 151Handicap: 12Members Posts: 2,319
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    I have the 50 head only in Raw and debating if I want to go with Chrome Satin to match my 54 and 58. Hindsight, don't buy on impulse. LOL

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F3 and F5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland CBX2 50, RTX4 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993
  • odshot68odshot68 MI 8012WRX Points: 200Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 8,012
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    Is the v grind rtx 4 similar to the vokey v grind?

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    Titleist TS3 10.5 Tensei Blue 55X SFW
    Titleist TS2 13.5 & 18 Tensei Blue 65X
    Titleist TS3 21 deg Diamana D+ 95X Hybrid
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5-PW DG S300
    Vokey SM7 52.12F, 56.10S, 60.04L or 60.10S DGS200
    Taylor Made Spider X Chalk Putter
    Golf Pride Tour Velvet Align
    Titleist Pro V1

  • Mainehacker21Mainehacker21 Maine 59WRX Points: 19Members Posts: 59
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    Weighing the 58 in low vs mid bounce. I like a low bounce around the green and in the sand but I'm not sure how well it will do with full or 3/4 shots. How well can you open up the mid bounce 58's or 60's for flop shots?

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  • themasters78themasters78  17WRX Points: 15Members Posts: 17
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    i love these wedges. They are just slighly larger than vokeys but that small increase in size helps 10x in confidence department

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  • COmedicCOmedic  124WRX Points: 54Members Posts: 124
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    I have the mid and low 58. I love the low when the ground is especially hard, but otherwise prefer and play the mid better. This winter has been mild enough to play some hard course conditions and swapping over to the low has helped in that case.

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  • GrandmasterJGrandmasterJ  36WRX Points: 30Handicap: 5.6Members Posts: 36
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    I recently made the switch to the RTX 4 50 54 58 in Satin Black. My friend was telling me that there are different feels when it comes to the 3 finishes that Cleveland offers. I am just curious since I have that PGA Tour Superstore 90 day playability, is there really a difference? My last set of wedges were the tour chrome SM6 and they aged pretty well for 1.5 years. I guess I am looking for which RTX 4 finish would produce the softest feel. Black finish is pretty soft but havent had the chance to try out the tour raw or the tour satin chrome. Thanks for the input everyone! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

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    Ping G410 Plus 9 Degree Ping Tour 65 Shaft Stiff
    Ping G410 3 Wood 14.5 Degree Ping Tour 75 Shaft Stiff
    Ping G410 3 Hybrid 19 Degree Ping Tour 85 Shaft Stiff/HZRDUS Black 6.0
    Ping i210 4-PW Modus NS Pro 120 Stiff Black Dot 
    Cleveland RTX 4 Satin Black 50/mid, 54/mid, 58/mid
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X7 34 inch (Left Handed)
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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge  2508WRX Points: 220Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 2,508
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    To ,make the decision a bit easier you cannot get the raw any more. To give you some real world findings, I've had both the raw and black an could not tell a difference. I actually think the black may be a bit softer if anything.

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    Ping G410 LST Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* (set to 16*) Diamana BF 70TX
    Srixon U85 20* Recoil 95 F
    Srixon z585 4i/5i KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Srixon z785 6-PW KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 KBS 610 125
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    '19 Pro V1x
    Jones Player Series Heather Brown
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