Cleveland RTX 4 Long Term Reviews ??

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  • NorbooNorboo  2319WRX Points: 151Handicap: 12Members Posts: 2,319
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    eBay is littered with New and used Raw. First I’ve hear black was softer than raw.

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F3 and F5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland CBX2 50, RTX4 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993
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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge  2508WRX Points: 220Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 2,508
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    You can’t order the raw through a retailer I should say. Feel is very subjective, your mileage may vary.

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    Ping G410 LST Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* (set to 16*) Diamana BF 70TX
    Srixon U85 20* Recoil 95 F
    Srixon z585 4i/5i KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Srixon z785 6-PW KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 KBS 610 125
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    '19 Pro V1x
    Jones Player Series Heather Brown
  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU  8960WRX Points: 2,502Handicap: 8Members Posts: 8,960
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    I have some RTX4 and Sm7s, I much prefer the RTX4 wedges. Better feel, better flight for me. I made the mistake and went low bounce. I wish I had a smidge more bounce but that is fitting not the club.

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    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 9*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Mizuno MP-18 MB Aldila RIP SLT Tour 115X Flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 52, 58, 64
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • HobbsHobbs  61WRX Points: 42ClubWRX Posts: 61
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    I have the 54* mid (2 dot) and 58* low (1 dot) in the satin finish. Typically I use the 54* from the fairway/rough on 3/4 to full shots and from green side bunkers. The 60* is used on 3/4 shots and firmer conditions (hard green side bunkers, hardpan, etc.). I like having the option of using a mid or low bounce when the conditions dictate such. This way when I play, I can adapt to the course conditions and not "wish" I had another club. 

    Previously, I had (still have in my garage) a 58* mid bounce, but found I was limiting myself when bunkers and course were hard/firm. Since I made the switch, I could not be more pleased.

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    Cobra F9 - Accra TZ6 65 M5
    Cobra F9 Tour 3/4 - 15* - Diamana D+ Limited 70x 
    Mizuno MMC 2 Iron
    Mizuno MP-18 SC 4-PW
    RTX4 50*, 54* and 58*
    Scotty Cameron Studio Style
  • birdiestobogeysbirdiestobogeys  25WRX Points: 24Members Posts: 25
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    Just bought raws a Carl’s a couple days ago. It looks like they are still fully stocked on their website.

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  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge  2508WRX Points: 220Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 2,508
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    Well I ordered some through Golf Galaxy and Cleveland emailed that the raw was out of stock, it is in Cleveland’s site as well. Maybe Carl’s had some in hand so if you find some better jump on them.

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    Ping G410 LST Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* (set to 16*) Diamana BF 70TX
    Srixon U85 20* Recoil 95 F
    Srixon z585 4i/5i KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Srixon z785 6-PW KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 KBS 610 125
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    '19 Pro V1x
    Jones Player Series Heather Brown
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  • GrandmasterJGrandmasterJ  36WRX Points: 30Handicap: 5.6Members Posts: 36
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    In terms of spin, I am going to assume the raw generates more spin than the black? They have stock at my local PGA store so I am really torn whether to exchange the black to the raw since I am within my 90 days haha . I appreciate all the replies!

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    Ping G410 Plus 9 Degree Ping Tour 65 Shaft Stiff
    Ping G410 3 Wood 14.5 Degree Ping Tour 75 Shaft Stiff
    Ping G410 3 Hybrid 19 Degree Ping Tour 85 Shaft Stiff/HZRDUS Black 6.0
    Ping i210 4-PW Modus NS Pro 120 Stiff Black Dot 
    Cleveland RTX 4 Satin Black 50/mid, 54/mid, 58/mid
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X7 34 inch (Left Handed)
  • ChristopherMcDonaldChristopherMcDonald  2459WRX Points: 125Members Posts: 2,459
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    Raw wedges do not add any additional spin. That's a myth. What you can expect is reduced glare and a good looking club, but rust doesn't add anything to spin.

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    Cobra King LTD UST Elements Chrome
    Taylormade '07 Burner 3 Wood Miyazaki B.Asha
    Taylormade '07 Burner 5 Wood Miyazaki B.Asha
    Taylormade '07 Burner 7 Wood Matrix Ozik 6Q3
    Adams XTD Tour 5-GW True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT
    Scratch Tour Issue 1018 56* True Temper Dynamic Gold
    Scratch Tour Issue 1018 60* True Temper Dynamic Gold
    Odyssey White Hot Pro V-Line
    Taylormade Project (a)
  • drvrwdgedrvrwdge  2508WRX Points: 220Handicap: +.7Members Posts: 2,508
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    This is correct. Raw doesn't add spin, neither does rust. Its technically the lack of coating which can fill in already machined grooves that may give raw wedges more spin but I think its been shown that differences are negligible.

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    Ping G410 LST Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* (set to 16*) Diamana BF 70TX
    Srixon U85 20* Recoil 95 F
    Srixon z585 4i/5i KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Srixon z785 6-PW KBS $-taper 130 PVD 
    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 KBS 610 125
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
    '19 Pro V1x
    Jones Player Series Heather Brown
  • bbfifasbbfifas  512WRX Points: 120Members Posts: 512
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    Someone help me on picking a new 60. I recently have been going thru wedges and have settled on the CBX 50 (for fullshots and pitches), the CBX 56 (for sand and green side and 3/4). I was thinking about adding a 60 that I can open for some flops or short sided bunker play.

    I now need to decide between adding the CBX2 60* (10 degree bounce and a C shape grind) or go with the RTX 4 60* in either the low grind (6*) or mid grind (9*).

    I'm thinking the RTX4 mid grind is better because more bounce as my miss is steep. Can the mid grind be opened up for flops?

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    Mizuno St190, 8.5*, Tensei White 70X shaft
    Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
    Taylormade V-Steel 5 wood, stock stiff
    Cobra F7 Hybrid 20* stiff Fuji Pro 75
    Cobra Forged Tec 5-PW, KBS C-taper lite stiff
    Cleveland CBX 50*, 115g DG
    Cleveland CBX 56*, 115g DG
    Cleveland RTX3 60* Midgrind 9* bounce
    Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34"
    Bridegstone Tour BX

  • Mainehacker21Mainehacker21 Maine 59WRX Points: 19Members Posts: 59
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    Anyone notice a distinct difference in weight with the lower lofted wedge vs high lofted? I just ordered a 54 and 58 and the lob wedge is noticeably heavier which I prefer. Is that the “feel balanced tech”? I wouldn’t think so but they both have the same shaft and swing weight looks like it should be the same from what I can see online for specs? I don’t think it’s just me it’s pretty noticeable, want to make sure this is normal.

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  • Kale_mKale_m  2194WRX Points: 372Members Posts: 2,194
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    Really like these. Defiantly the wedge I would be getting. If I was in the market right now. My md4 will last me this season still. The raw rtx feel so good

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    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
  • elwhippyelwhippy  3364WRX Points: 326Members Posts: 3,364
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    The longer I have my 60 deg RTX4 the more I like it. Very consistent spin and feels great. I ordered a KBS Hi Rev as S400 too much for my swing speed and it works great.

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  • brkuckbrkuck  1631WRX Points: 133Members Posts: 1,631
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    I had the SM6's for 46*, 52* and 60*, before replacing the 60 with the RTX4. The spin and feel were a lot better in the RTX4, for me. I was not sold on it at first, but towards the end of the season I came to like them better than the SM6's.

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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 947WRX Points: 205Handicap: WIPClubWRX Posts: 947
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    No more golf until Spring.

  • Kale_mKale_m  2194WRX Points: 372Members Posts: 2,194
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    Just get them from you once your gold plated artisans come in

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    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
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  • GrandmasterJGrandmasterJ  36WRX Points: 30Handicap: 5.6Members Posts: 36
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    I am planning to use my playability option with the PGA store and I just wanted to get some input from y'all. I plan on changing my 54/mid and 58/mid to 56/full and 60/mid. Should I stick with the original sole options I had with the 54 and 58 or go with this? Thanks very much!!

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    Ping G410 Plus 9 Degree Ping Tour 65 Shaft Stiff
    Ping G410 3 Wood 14.5 Degree Ping Tour 75 Shaft Stiff
    Ping G410 3 Hybrid 19 Degree Ping Tour 85 Shaft Stiff/HZRDUS Black 6.0
    Ping i210 4-PW Modus NS Pro 120 Stiff Black Dot 
    Cleveland RTX 4 Satin Black 50/mid, 54/mid, 58/mid
    Scotty Cameron Phantom X7 34 inch (Left Handed)
  • Pbo1980Pbo1980  22WRX Points: 33Members Posts: 22
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    Had them since release. 52 and 56 - Favorite wedges I’ve had. Came from many sets of vokeys and Cleveland 588

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 2017WRX Points: 1,235Handicap: SnowMembers Posts: 2,017
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    Anybody gaming the 48 mid? Thinking of using one as my PW...

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 818 H1 23° Aldila Rogue 85x
    Srixon z785 4-PW DG TI X100 Wilson Staff Blade 4-PW KBS C-Taper Black S+
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M DG TI S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
    Pro V1x/TP5x


  • HobbsHobbs  61WRX Points: 42ClubWRX Posts: 61
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    My PW is 46* and I tried the RXT4 but I just didn't feel comfortable with it. My PW is +1/4 so maybe it was length or swing weight which felt "different". However, I do game a 50* RTX4 as a gap wedge and I love it for that particular purpose.

    Don't think the Wilson PW will be dialed in? (I believe you mention your ordered a set in previous or different post).

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    Cobra F9 - Accra TZ6 65 M5
    Cobra F9 Tour 3/4 - 15* - Diamana D+ Limited 70x 
    Mizuno MMC 2 Iron
    Mizuno MP-18 SC 4-PW
    RTX4 50*, 54* and 58*
    Scotty Cameron Studio Style
  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 2017WRX Points: 1,235Handicap: SnowMembers Posts: 2,017
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    They’re being built. I should have them before I head down to Florida I hope. I’ve really been wanting to try a three wedge setup. I could just bend the Wilson 2 weak (maybe smartest) and then go 52 58. My plan was initially to bend my SM7 50 to 52, 56M to 58, and 60M to 62. I feel like the 58M with a bit more bounce would be amazing but I have to test it out. The downside to this setup is losing the 105-110 full shot with the 56 that spins a lot.

    I was thinking of trying out the RTX as my friend has them and I loved them when I tested. 48-53-59 was the thought with bending a 52 and 58 weak.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 818 H1 23° Aldila Rogue 85x
    Srixon z785 4-PW DG TI X100 Wilson Staff Blade 4-PW KBS C-Taper Black S+
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M DG TI S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
    Pro V1x/TP5x


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  • HobbsHobbs  61WRX Points: 42ClubWRX Posts: 61
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    I like the idea of the 48-53-59 set up. Sounds like it would work, but you'll know when you get to play.

    I just purchased another set of MP-14s (2-9). I now to need to look for a new "PW". The set's PW was 50/6. The RTX only has a 50/10 (mid). I think I might pull the trigger on a Mizuno T20 50/7 to keep it close to what the normal PW would be.

    The question now is to stay with my 54 and 58 RTX (bring them over from my gamers when I use the MP-14 for a round), get set of 56 and 60 RTX (maybe bend the 56 to 55) or go full Mizuno T20 with a 54/58 or 55/60 set up?

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    Cobra F9 - Accra TZ6 65 M5
    Cobra F9 Tour 3/4 - 15* - Diamana D+ Limited 70x 
    Mizuno MMC 2 Iron
    Mizuno MP-18 SC 4-PW
    RTX4 50*, 54* and 58*
    Scotty Cameron Studio Style
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