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Best Fairway Woods of 2019

pollock21pollock21 Advanced Members Posts: 659
Think of replacing my beloved 16M2 3 and 5 wood with something new. Hoping to keep the distance/performance with an increase in forgiveness.



Now that the new batch of fairways have been out for a while, I figured I’d ask what everyone has thrown on the bag after testing out the new options.



Are there any consensus winners in this batch? They all look like great options, I just know many of them couldn’t keep up with my M2’s the past few years. I’ve wanted to put a Ping in the bag for a while but just couldn’t give up all those yards. The new g410 LST looks like a contender, possibly the TS2 or F9 as well.



Looking forward to hearing everyone’s experiences!
Driver: Ho
Fairway: 16M2 15* & 18*
Irons: Ho
Wedges: Ping Glide Stealth 50* PXLZ 6.5, 54* & 60* PXLZ 7.0
Putter: Scotty Newport 2
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Comments

  • DFDLTDFDLT Advanced Members Posts: 88 ✭✭
    I’m going to try the F9, G410 LST, and the ST190.
  • North Shore Golfer21North Shore Golfer21 Advanced Members Posts: 318 ✭✭
    M5 by a lot
  • kiw1982kiw1982 Advanced Members Posts: 1,102 ✭✭
    From my fitting,



    1st - m6(liked how it sits behind the ball better)

    2nd - TS2, close same shaft(feel was better than anything)



    Hope this helps.
    Mizuno        ST-180 Driver w/KuroKage HBP 50 X
    Taylormade  M6 3 Wood w/NV 2KXV Blue 75 X
    Mizuno        CLK 3 Hybrid w/Tensei CK Blue 80H X
    Taylormade  P790 4-G Irons w/KBS tour 130 X
    Mizuno        T7 56/10 Wedgew/KBS tour 130 X
    Mizuno        S18 Wedge w/KBS tour 130 X
    Odyssey      O-Works 1WS Putter
    Titleist         AVX Golf Balls
  • BearQBearQ Break 2 Rebuild Advanced Members Posts: 3,052 ✭✭
    kiw1982 wrote:


    From my fitting,



    1st - m6(liked how it sits behind the ball better)

    2nd - TS2, close same shaft(feel was better than anything)



    Hope this helps.




    Ts fairways don’t get much hype on boards but I’ve seen them in tons of bags. Rave reviews
    LTD Pro 9.5* - Matrix Type C 70X  |  M2 Tour 15* - Tour AD VR 8X 
    P790 UDI - Black Tie 105X
    TP UDI (3-4)  |  Srixon Z945 (5-P) - Nippon SPB 
    Cobra MB (51*)  Nike VR Forged (56*)  Hi-Toe (60.10)
    TM Spider Black
  • DasenergiDasenergi Advanced Members Posts: 902 ✭✭
    edited March 9
    F9 was by far the best got even better on grass



    Should add, Atmos TS blue 7 was by far the best shaft. Smoke, Evenflow and even the trusted Tensei didn’t outperform it. Was pleasantly surprised with it.
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  • chadly643chadly643 Advanced Members Posts: 429 ✭✭
    I did some initial testing of all the main available options last weekend. They are all very close in terms of performance. Ballspeeds were all identical. Ping was definitely the highest flight. I diskliked the Ping shape however. Srixon was the best looking option and felt really good. The winner for me however was f9. Those rails really do offer something useful that the others don’t have. In all honesty, all the big manufacturers have a great option this year. You can’t make a mistake with any of them. It comes down purely to preference on looks and feel.
  • kclayton16kclayton16 Members Posts: 20 ✭✭


    M5 by a lot




    Agree. M5 was miles better for me than gamer (Epic SZ) as well as other new fwy woods for 2019
  • onafridayonafriday Advanced Members Posts: 1,413
    F9 Tour for me at a flighscope fitting this year with a bunch of different shaft trials.



    A lot of good ones this year. Find your combo!
    TaylorMade M5 9* Diamana W 60x
    Cobra King F9 Tour 14.5* Tensei CK Pro Blue 60tx
    Titleist 818H1 19*, 818H2 23* Tour Spec 8.8x
    Srixon z585 (5-P) Modus3 120x
    Vokey SM7 (raw) 48F, 54S, 58M Modus3 120x
    Bettinardi Queen B10 Blackout Edition
  • BigHook25BigHook25 Advanced Members Posts: 2,284 ✭✭
    kclayton16 wrote:



    M5 by a lot




    Agree. M5 was miles better for me than gamer (Epic SZ) as well as other new fwy woods for 2019




    Your talking about the price
  • puresurfrpuresurfr Advanced Members Posts: 1,833 ✭✭
    I buy every club made and they all are pretty good but I was really surprised by the PXG Gen2, it is the first fairway wood which has a chance of upending my Adams XTD.....It is the only club in my bag that has not been replaced.....ive changed irons about 30 times at least and drivers, a minimum of 40X and if you count shaft changes, a lot more than that. The PXG is small headed which I like but the entire face is forgiving and the spin is super too low, in fact its probably too low for good golfers to employ but for me it just gives me tremendous distance !
  • JustinMJustinM Advanced Members Posts: 128
    The epic flash SZ fairways are great. I replaced my PXGs for these both 15 and 18 degree. The head is small and the face is tall if that makes sense. I’ve tested them all and a clear winner
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,029 ✭✭
    For me, as far as looks, feel, sound and performance go it comes down to F9 vs Flash. M5 looks very good but I wasn't a fan of that huge price and the firm "hard" feel off the face.



    Haven't tried out TS3 or G410 yet but I really don't like the looks from what I've seen. Never liked Titleist or Ping clubs really, so unless they blow F9 or Flash out of the water with performance (unlikely, these are 3w's after all) I won't even bother.
    WITB
    LTD Pro Kiyoshi White 65X
    LTD Kai'li 70X
    818H2 Tour Blue 85X
    Apex Pro Smoke incoming!!
    Stealth 2.0 50/10SS
    Stealth 2.0 54/12SS
    Stealth 2.0 58/10SS
    TP Black Copper Juno
    TP5X
    Sun Mountain 4.5 Bag
  • jasona93jasona93 Members Posts: 52 ✭✭
    I sure hope its the ST190 because one appeared on my doorstep yesterday.
  • kjruleskjrules Advanced Members Posts: 122
    epic flash sz - beast off the tee ans so easy to launch of the turf, longest and straightest.
  • evoviiiyouevoviiiyou evoviiiyou Advanced Members Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    1) Mizuno ST190 TS (3 wood...I have not hit the glued in 5metal yet)

    2) Epic Flash SZ is interchangeable with the ST190 for me in the 3wood in terms of performance. Really awesome fairway, love the entire Flash line
  • bnb9433bnb9433 Advanced Members Posts: 206 ✭✭
    kjrules wrote:


    epic flash sz - beast off the tee ans so easy to launch of the turf, longest and straightest.




    This
    Cobra F9 w/ Atmos Tour Spec Blue 6s
    Epic Flash 3w w/ HZRDUS Smoke 6.0 70g
    Ping i200 w/ PX 6.0
    Vokey
    Odyssey O works
    ProV1
  • BearQBearQ Break 2 Rebuild Advanced Members Posts: 3,052 ✭✭
    Flash sz getting a lot of love!
    LTD Pro 9.5* - Matrix Type C 70X  |  M2 Tour 15* - Tour AD VR 8X 
    P790 UDI - Black Tie 105X
    TP UDI (3-4)  |  Srixon Z945 (5-P) - Nippon SPB 
    Cobra MB (51*)  Nike VR Forged (56*)  Hi-Toe (60.10)
    TM Spider Black
  • pollock21pollock21 Advanced Members Posts: 659
    Mizzy sounds like one I’m gonna have to check out as well.
    Driver: Ho
    Fairway: 16M2 15* & 18*
    Irons: Ho
    Wedges: Ping Glide Stealth 50* PXLZ 6.5, 54* & 60* PXLZ 7.0
    Putter: Scotty Newport 2
  • pollock21pollock21 Advanced Members Posts: 659
    jasona93 wrote:
    I sure hope its the ST190 because one appeared on my doorstep yesterday.




    Have you hit it yet? What are your thoughts?
    Driver: Ho
    Fairway: 16M2 15* & 18*
    Irons: Ho
    Wedges: Ping Glide Stealth 50* PXLZ 6.5, 54* & 60* PXLZ 7.0
    Putter: Scotty Newport 2
  • putt&prayputt&pray Members Posts: 24 ✭✭
    TS3 has been fantastic so far...



    I’d love to pick up a Tensei pro white 80TX, I think that would be an all world combo!
  • JutJut "Don't give up. Don't ever give up." Advanced Members Posts: 698 ✭✭
    edited March 12
    I posted this in the F9 thread a few days ago...


    [background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]I picked up the F9 Tour fairway after testing it against both of the Epic Flash models, both Titleist [/background][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]TS models, and all the T[/background]aylormade [background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]stuff. All this was done at GG on GC2. Both objectively and subjectively, it blew everything else away. Granted this was all indoors hitting into a net. After purchase, I hit it off the mats at my local outdoor range (in 30* weather) and liked it, didn't love it. Like a true ho'er of clubs, I put it on the BST thinking I would fall in love with the G410 LST fairway. [/background]

    [background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]Well, I'm glad I didn't get rid of the Cobra. I was able to finally get some semi-agreeable Ohio weather and have now had it on the course twice. She's a keeper.[/background]
    Ping G400 LST 9.5*
    Cobra F9 Tour 15*
    Ping G410 20*
    Ping i500 5-G
    Callaway MD4 54/06 C
    Callaway MD4 60/12 X
    Odyssey Stroke Lab #9
    Titleist AVX
  • pollock21pollock21 Advanced Members Posts: 659
    I bit the bullet, grabbed a new flash SZ. Ebay is running a 15% in app coupon till 7 PM pacific tonight. Will report back once I get it out on the course.

    putt&pray wrote:
    TS3 has been fantastic so far...



    I’d love to pick up a Tensei pro white 80TX, I think that would be an all world combo!




    I have a pro white 70 TX in my 16M2 and it’s awesome. Good chance it ends up in my SZ.
    Driver: Ho
    Fairway: 16M2 15* & 18*
    Irons: Ho
    Wedges: Ping Glide Stealth 50* PXLZ 6.5, 54* & 60* PXLZ 7.0
    Putter: Scotty Newport 2
  • DFS PFDDFS PFD Advanced Members Posts: 805 ✭✭
    M5 felt hook prone, F9 Tour was good, but nothing is unseating the ultra flat M2 tour this year.
    TC Rogue SZ 8.8* Pro Orange 70TX/ ACCRA TZ5 75 M5
    M2 Tour 15* Kuro Kage DC 70TX
    790 UDI Tensei Pro White 100TX
    4-PW Apex Pro 19 DG X7's
    50* MD4 Raw Tour issue S400
    55* MD4 Raw Tour issue S400
    60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
    J-DAY Spider
  • agoodmanmbkagoodmanmbk Advanced Members Posts: 392 ✭✭
    TS2 15* w/ Tensei Pro White 70....bombs
    Titleist TS2 Tensei Pro White 60
    Titleist TS2 14.25* HZRDUS Smoke Black 70
    PING G410 19* Tensei Pro Blue 80
    PING i210 4-UW Project X LZ
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth 56*SS/60*SS
    TaylorMade Spider X Navy
    TaylorMade TP5
  • NJPhilNJPhil Advanced Members Posts: 137
    Loving my TS2, so much confidence in my 3 wood now.
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ping G400 LST [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]10° w/ HZRDUS Smoke 60[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Titleist TS2 3W 15° w/ HZRDUS Smoke 70 [/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ping G30 3H 19° w/ [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] TFC 419H[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Taylormade P790 4i-AW w/ SteelFiber i110[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Titleist Vokey SM7 Raw 54.14F w/ SteelFiber i125[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Titleist Vokey SM7 Raw 58.08M w/ SteelFiber i125[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Select Fastback 2[/font]
  • uglandeuglande Advanced Members Posts: 99 ✭✭
    Of the ones I have tried so far:



    1a) Cobra F9 Tour (Like the black-matte look, small, heavy head, and thud-y feel, plus rails! This is a tie for me with TS3).

    1b) Titleist TS3 (Beautiful club, this is what I have in my bag but I might have to pick up a Cobra Tour for a proper showdown)

    2) Callaway Flash SZ (So-so looks, very hot, love the feel on center strikes, couldn't find the right shaft match to really make it consistent)

    3) Ping 410 LST (Liked it but feel was loud and harsh and ball flight was fade-y. Regular 410 was same-old and too spinny for me)

    4) TaylorMade M5/M6 (Just didn't work for me. Looks good. I just couldn't get any distance.)



    I am a high-spin player so I didn't even try some models like TS2, standard F9 or standard Flash. I did try both models of Taylor and Ping.



    The only other one I want to try is Mizuno.
    Wood (08.5) TITLEIST TS3 - Diamana White 70X
    Wood (13.5) TITLEIST TS3 - Diamana White 80X
    Iron (17.0) TAYLORMADE P790-UDI - Diamana White 90X
    Iron (21.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (23.5) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (26.5) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (30.5) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (35.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (40.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (45.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Wedge (50.0) TITLEIST Vokey SM7-F - DGS200
    Wedge (54.0) TITLEIST Vokey SM7-S - DGS200
    Wedge (60.0) TITLEIST Vokey SM7-D - DGS200
    Putter TAYLORMADE Spider
  • eldog-in-the-hizouseeldog-in-the-hizouse Advanced Members Posts: 944 ✭✭
    So no love at all for the Ping G410 LST? What's wrong with the head shape? Does it not spin considerably less than the regular 410?
  • uglandeuglande Advanced Members Posts: 99 ✭✭


    So no love at all for the Ping G410 LST? What's wrong with the head shape? Does it not spin considerably less than the regular 410?




    Definitely lower launch and lower spin. If that's what you're looking for, and you are already used to the standard grey-matte-turbulator look, then definitely give them a try. I was getting pretty good numbers but they were leaky to the right (probably fixable) and wasn't crazy about the feel or sound (not fixable).



    If 410 LST is appealing, also give the Cobra F9 Tour a spin.
    Wood (08.5) TITLEIST TS3 - Diamana White 70X
    Wood (13.5) TITLEIST TS3 - Diamana White 80X
    Iron (17.0) TAYLORMADE P790-UDI - Diamana White 90X
    Iron (21.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (23.5) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (26.5) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (30.5) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (35.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (40.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Iron (45.0) TAYLORMADE P790 - PX 6.5
    Wedge (50.0) TITLEIST Vokey SM7-F - DGS200
    Wedge (54.0) TITLEIST Vokey SM7-S - DGS200
    Wedge (60.0) TITLEIST Vokey SM7-D - DGS200
    Putter TAYLORMADE Spider
  • Sh00terMcgavinSh00terMcgavin Advanced Members Posts: 282
    I'm going to go with TEE CBX for best fairway.



    I will say that the Epic Flash sz does look mighty appealing to hit. Guys on TXG were raving about the ballspeeds it was producing for a fairway wood.
    Ping G400 Accra TZ6M5
    TEE EX10 Beta but searching
    Callaway Apex UT 21*
    Mizuno MP5
    Vokey
    Spider

    Tp5x
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,087 ClubWRX
    I played my first round today with a Cobra F9 standard head 14.5 degree 3 wood. I really hammered it straight and long all 3 times I hit it, two from the deck and once from the tee. One of the easiest to elevate FW clubs I have ever hit. It feels fantastic and it gets up. The rails are a big help off the deck. This is a really nice fairway wood, my first Cobra fairway ever. Impressed.
    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • FlyOverFlyOver Advanced Members Posts: 279 ✭✭


    I'm going to go with TEE CBX for best fairway.



    I will say that the Epic Flash sz does look mighty appealing to hit. Guys on TXG were raving about the ballspeeds it was producing for a fairway wood.




    I gamed the Epic SZ 13.5* and replaced it with the Epic Flash SZ 13.5*. The Flash has a hotter face and I gained at least 20 yards off the turf. It has lower launch than previous Epic SZ. I also tried the M5 rocket, but the launch was to high for me.
    Taylormade M6 9.0 loft-Handcrafted Even Flow Black 6.0 65 grams shaft
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 13.5 degree-Tensei Blue AV stiff shaft
    Titleist 818 H2 Hybrid-Tensei Blue stiff 19*
    Honma TW 747v forged 4-10 irons-Modus 105 stiff shafts
    Titleist Vokey SM6 50* F Grind
    Mack Daddy 4 54* C Grind
    Callaway PM Grind 58* C Grind
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport modified center shaft putter
    Titleist yellow AVX ball
  • HonmanHonman Advanced Members Posts: 1,035 ✭✭
    I've hit most of this year's fairways, flash sub zero was by far the best on ball speed and I like the feel. PXG was a good number two. G410 felt the most forgiving by a long way but I couldn't control the spin and they didn't have the LST to try. I think that would be a good head for me.



    In a separate session I've hit the ST190 and was putting a good flight on that, dialled down to 14 and really liked the feel.



    The TaylorMade fairways both want to go really high this year.



    Driver: TaylorMade M5 9 Mitsubishi Tensei White Pro 60S
    Fairway Wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero Mitsubishi C6 70S
    Hybrid: Ping G41019 & 22 Alta CB 7S
    Irons: Ping i500 KBS Tour V 100R
    Wedge: Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth AWT 50, 56, 60
    Putter: TBC
    Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X
  • HedgehogHedgehog Advanced Members Posts: 298 ✭✭
    M6 is a winner for me, longest FW I have ever hit. Coming from M2 16 and M2 17, M6 is better in every way to me.



    Get fitted, it's key.
    TM M6 9° GD AD DI 6x
    TM M6 15° HZRDUS Smoke 6.5
    TM Rescue AD DI H 85X
    Ping iBlade 4-PW Modus3 105S
    RTX2.0 50°/54°
    RTX4 60°
    Scotty Cameron '18 Select Fastback
    Srixon Z-Star XV
  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174
    The Mizuno 3 wood is legit this year. The entire ST line is going to change the way people view Mizuno Woods.



    The ST190 driver is hard to beat as well.
  • schimmelschimmel Members Posts: 12 ✭✭
    Honman wrote:


    I've hit most of this year's fairways, flash sub zero was by far the best on ball speed and I like the feel. PXG was a good number two. G410 felt the most forgiving by a long way but I couldn't control the spin and they didn't have the LST to try. I think that would be a good head for me.



    In a separate session I've hit the ST190 and was putting a good flight on that, dialled down to 14 and really liked the feel.



    The TaylorMade fairways both want to go really high this year.
    What difference in ball speed and spin did you see vs the flash and pxg? Were they the same loft?
  • kiw1982kiw1982 Advanced Members Posts: 1,102 ✭✭
    Just finished with my first round with M6.



    with st180, my carry was around 235-240.

    Today, it became 250 average.



    Here's what I found;

    1. really really easy to hit.

    2. long enough

    3. fitting is crucial. (shaft is equally important as head I'm)
    Mizuno        ST-180 Driver w/KuroKage HBP 50 X
    Taylormade  M6 3 Wood w/NV 2KXV Blue 75 X
    Mizuno        CLK 3 Hybrid w/Tensei CK Blue 80H X
    Taylormade  P790 4-G Irons w/KBS tour 130 X
    Mizuno        T7 56/10 Wedgew/KBS tour 130 X
    Mizuno        S18 Wedge w/KBS tour 130 X
    Odyssey      O-Works 1WS Putter
    Titleist         AVX Golf Balls
  • BigHook25BigHook25 Advanced Members Posts: 2,284 ✭✭
    aquapig wrote:


    The Mizuno 3 wood is legit this year. The entire ST line is going to change the way people view Mizuno Woods.



    The ST190 driver is hard to beat as well.




    Just ordered the Mizuno fairway wood to try. Sure, I could try and find somewhere and get fit, but it isn't the same as trying it on the course. I find that more and more with certain clubs, especially the clubs when you get further away from driver. A 3-wood is such a different club and I've hit some well in fitting balls and struggled on the course. I know what type of shafts fit me and I have a few extra to try. So in this case, I decided it made more sense to just buy and try the Mizuno on the course.



    The Mizuno looks great and has a deep face, which I like cause I hit fairway wood off the tee a lot. The Mizuno doesn't have to hang mph for mph in ball speed with other woods (although I think it can), just needs to be consistent. I had a M2 tour and liked that except felt it wasn't forgiving enough. I'm hoping the Mizuno ST190 will be a more forgiving M2 tour.
  • scmgobluescmgoblue Members Posts: 44
    I'll second the TEE vote as well, honestly a little surprised at the lack of mention of them so far. I picked up a CBX 119 3 wood earlier this year and have been really impressed with it; I had been looking for a slightly deeper face than my Ping G 3w and Iove how it frames the ball at address. Feel off the face has been great and HZDRUS Smoke shaft seems to pair really well with it. If you're testing fairway woods I would definitely recommend giving the Tour Edge lineup a shot.
    Go Blue!
    Ping G410 9.0* Evenflow 6.5X 75g
    Tour Edge Exotics CBX 119 15* HZDRUS Smoke 6.5
    Titleist 816 H1 19* Speeder S
    Mizuno MP-64 4i-P DG X100 AMT tour issue
    Mizuno S18 50*/ 54* / 58*
    Scotty Cameron Newport Pro Platinum Mil Spec 34'' 340g
  • ryborybo Advanced Members Posts: 2,211 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    Picked up a G410 5 wood with an Evenflow 6.5 85g shaft, easy to hit and disturbingly long and straight!





    Sound is awful, like a weak tin can but then you hit it and watch it go dead straight and longer then any 5 wood should!
  • cliffhangercliffhanger ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 1,623 ClubWRX
    aquapig wrote:


    The Mizuno 3 wood is legit this year. The entire ST line is going to change the way people view Mizuno Woods.



    The ST190 driver is hard to beat as well.
    i am hearing big things regarding the Mizuno wood lineup this year. I haven't hit them yet however they are on my to do list.
    What's In The Bag This Week:

    Epic Flash SZ driver
    Epic Flash SZ 3 wood
    Callaway Apex UT 3 iron
    new irons pending (Srixon Z Forged are looking good)
    new wedges pending (vokey maybe)
    Cameron Newport 3 @ 34 inch
    Chrome Soft X ball
  • aquapigaquapig Advanced Members Posts: 174

    aquapig wrote:


    The Mizuno 3 wood is legit this year. The entire ST line is going to change the way people view Mizuno Woods.



    The ST190 driver is hard to beat as well.
    i am hearing big things regarding the Mizuno wood lineup this year. I haven't hit them yet however they are on my to do list.




    I usually pick up a Mizuno wood in the shop, look at it at address and don’t think much of it. Also in the past I didn’t like the sound or feel much.



    As soon as I picked up the 190 Driver, it look great at address. Then a couple swings and I could tell this thing was different. It just suited my eye (always played Titleist drivers). Then I thought when I hit it it would sound like older Mizzy drivers and not have a good feel. Ummmm nope. Sound and feel are the best I’ve felt since the 910... In fact, better.



  • pollock21pollock21 Advanced Members Posts: 659
    This really seems like a great year for all brands for drivers and fairways.
    Driver: Ho
    Fairway: 16M2 15* & 18*
    Irons: Ho
    Wedges: Ping Glide Stealth 50* PXLZ 6.5, 54* & 60* PXLZ 7.0
    Putter: Scotty Newport 2
  • mpmz71mpmz71 Members Posts: 75 ✭✭
    Has anyone been able to compare the ST190 fairway woods versus the F9 woods?



    I liked the sound and feel of the F9 3 wood in the store, but I could not hit the Mizuno wood. I have the ST190 driver so I'm leaning towards that for the 3 wood. I liked the F9nl 3 wood better than the F9 driver.
  • WoodersonWooderson Advanced Members Posts: 1,965 ✭✭
    Mizuno will have a big problem with lack of demos and ability to fit shafts for their regular fairway. I was really interested in the non tour Mizuno, but in the end since I was not able to hit them or try different shafts I passed.



    Ended up comparing the M6, PXG, and Epic Flash three woods on Trackman indoors. The PXG looked very small and shallow, but felt amazing. Unfortunately off the tee I was catching it high on the face and getting extremely low smash factors. Just too player profile for me.



    The M6 was my favorite for looks and felt really nice. Hit it with more of a fade ball flight. The Epic Flash was more of a straight ball flight with a draw here and there. The Flash felt and sounded fantastic and on average was longer in carry. The M6 even though I was hitting a fade had lower spin than the Flash and would roll out and made it a close call. In the end I chose the Flash because of the adjustability, ability to change shafts, and it had the highest smash factor and carry.



    Two rounds in and the Epic Flash is probably my second favorite club in my bag. I have a large amount of confidence in it already. Fantastic club. Looking at five woods now. I already bought a TS2 five wood and that was a mistake. It has such a odd shape. I'm not calling it yet, but I think the TS2 is DOA for me. Surprisingly though I will give the M6 five wood the option of besting the Flash five wood, even though my head says to just get another Flash.
    Let me tell you what Wooderson is packin'
    Ping G400 Max 9° Tour 65 Stiff

    Callaway Epic Flash 15°
    Callaway Epic Heavenwood
    Ping G410 22°
    Titleist 818 H1 25°
    TM p790 6-PW Modus 105 Stiff
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth GW/SW
    Ping Eye2 LW
    Odyssey Marxman
  • KevCannonKevCannon ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 48 ClubWRX
    What are everyone’s thoughts on Epic Flash vs Flash sub zero ?

    Normally the sub zero has much flatter lie angle but this year standard flash lie angle is 56 degrees for 13.5 and 15 degree, 55 lie for sub zero. For those that have hit both what has been difference in spin, distance, and feel? The Rogue 13.5 i currently play actually spun a tiny bit less that Rogue sub zero , same shaft on both, and the face just felt much better and hotter.
    GBB Rogue Subzero w/ AD TP 7x
    Rogue 3+ wood w/ AD TP 7x
    Titleist H2 21 degree w/ Tensei pro white 95tx
    Callaway X Forged 4-P w/ Project X 6.0
    Callaway MD4 50s, 54s, 58x w/ Project X 6.0
    Toulon Austin
    Srixon Z Star XV
  • BigHook25BigHook25 Advanced Members Posts: 2,284 ✭✭
    Wooderson wrote:


    Mizuno will have a big problem with lack of demos and ability to fit shafts for their regular fairway. I was really interested in the non tour Mizuno, but in the end since I was not able to hit them or try different shafts I passed.



    Ended up comparing the M6, PXG, and Epic Flash three woods on Trackman indoors. The PXG looked very small and shallow, but felt amazing. Unfortunately off the tee I was catching it high on the face and getting extremely low smash factors. Just too player profile for me.



    The M6 was my favorite for looks and felt really nice. Hit it with more of a fade ball flight. The Epic Flash was more of a straight ball flight with a draw here and there. The Flash felt and sounded fantastic and on average was longer in carry. The M6 even though I was hitting a fade had lower spin than the Flash and would roll out and made it a close call. In the end I chose the Flash because of the adjustability, ability to change shafts, and it had the highest smash factor and carry.



    Two rounds in and the Epic Flash is probably my second favorite club in my bag. I have a large amount of confidence in it already. Fantastic club. Looking at five woods now. I already bought a TS2 five wood and that was a mistake. It has such a odd shape. I'm not calling it yet, but I think the TS2 is DOA for me. Surprisingly though I will give the M6 five wood the option of besting the Flash five wood, even though my head says to just get another Flash.




    I agree with you with the Mizuno. I think custom fittings at other places is where they can make it up. Chances are most people going into Golf Galaxy or PGA Superstore aren't going in looking for Mizuno anyway. They tend to get pushed or want TM or Callaway anyway.



    For me, the lack of 80+ gram options for fairway woods among all manufacturers make it difficult for me. That, and a hitting bay just doesn't do it for me when hitting fairway woods. So I really need to find something I like the look of and then just hope a shaft matches up, or a few of the other shafts I have will work. I know what profile of shaft fits me, so I usually can find one fairly quick that will work. I'm not worried if I spin one 200 rpm higher if it performs on the course, but I really need/want to play with hit a few rounds on a golf course.
  • theothertwotheothertwo Advanced Members Posts: 2,455 ✭✭
    I am interested in the TOUR EDGE CBX 119 fairway woods:



    https://www.touredge.com/products/cbx119.asp
    Honma TW 727 455s 10.5* Driver
    Honma TW 727 18* 5 Wood
    Honma TW 727 22* Hybrid
    Miura CB 57 4-PW
    Miura 2018 Tour Wedges 52* and 58*
    Wilson 8802 Milled Putter
  • BaxterbarretBaxterbarret Members Posts: 4
    I went through the same thing this offseason, replacing my 16 M2 3 wood. IMO Srixon is the best looking wood. It just looks mean. That said the F9 is unreal. The rails are unbelievable on the course. Gone are the thinned shots off the deck. And the feel is unreal. I went with the white over the yellow for the matte crown. F9 will be in my bag for some time.
  • sihawkersihawker Advanced Members Posts: 246 ✭✭
    mpmz71 wrote:


    Has anyone been able to compare the ST190 fairway woods versus the F9 woods?



    I liked the sound and feel of the F9 3 wood in the store, but I could not hit the Mizuno wood. I have the ST190 driver so I'm leaning towards that for the 3 wood. I liked the F9nl 3 wood better than the F9 driver.




    I have had both the F9 3 wood and the ST190 3 wood. I think they are both great 3 woods, but for me the ST190 was much easier to hit of the tee. They were equal off the deck for me and felt very similar. I sold my F9 3wood and I think I am sticking to the ST190. The only thing I liked better about the F9 was the adjustable neck.
    Mizuno St190 Driver
    Mizuno ST190 3 wood
    Cobra F9 4 hybrid
    Sixon 785 4-G
    Vokey 54/58
    Odyssey WhiteHot Rx #2
  • RuffingItRuffingIt Advanced Members Posts: 112 ✭✭
    Just ordered G410 after my fitting.  I was pretty dead set on getting the LST after returning my previous G400 stretch.  I got rid of the stretch because the huge head size was starting to bother me.  Mentally felt like i had to lift up on my swing.  G410 LST head is definitely smaller and more compact and it was ok to hit during my fitting.  I dunno if it was fatigue during my fitting, but i started to lose confidence and put consistent swings with the LST.  Fitter handed me the standard head with same tour shaft and I was sold, 2-3 swings in.  A lot more forgiving, and so much easier to hit off the deck. Launch and spin numbers were still falling in my wheel house.  
    Ping G400 LST 8.5˚ (Kuro Kage Silver Tini X)
    Ping G410 3 wood (Ping Tour stiff)
    Nike vr pro ltd 5 wood (UST Mamiya VTS 85S silver)
    Nike vr pro combo 3-PW (S300)
    Nike Engage 55˚ss, 60˚ds
    Ping Karsten TR Anser 5 33"

    in rotation
    Nike Method Origin B2-01 33" / Nike Method Matter B2-01 33"
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