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An observation on shorts on the PGA Tour

daleheaddalehead Advanced Members Posts: 1,417 ✭✭
i attended the final round of the Arnold Palmer Invitational yesterday and one of the first things I saw was two players walking together down the ninth fairway, both wearing long pants of course. And it struck me that this was a statement that this round of golf was different from your typical round with your Saturday foursome. This was serious business. Me and thousands of others, almost all wearing shorts, were there to have a good time and drink a few beers. They were in the middle of a competitive round played by professionals with not only prize money at stake but in some cases career, future, and family security as well. Tour golf is different. It is a serious business conducted by professionals and they should continue to look like professionals.
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  • fore_lifefore_life Swung too hard, hit it too pure. Members, Advanced Members Posts: 10,349 ✭✭
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,214 ✭✭
    edited March 11
    No need for shorts anyway with today’s fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn’t a protected rain forest.
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  • MaximilianMaximilian Advanced Members Posts: 1,299 ✭✭
    I think they look sloppy without wearing a tie. But of course Justin Thomas looked like a fool when he did wear a tie, so now I'm thinking they should wear bowties. I'm totally gonna hate the guy that wears a bowtie though.



    I honestly could not care less if they wore shorts in tournaments, as long as it's up to the players to choose if they wear them or not.



    Wonder what would happen if someone showed up for an early Thursday morning tee time on the PGA Tour wearing shorts. Would the starter not let him tee it up? Would they disqualify him after his round? Or maybe it would be more like the time limits you have to hit your shot, they wouldn't be happy about it and maybe give them a warning, but nothing would actually happen?
  • mankumanku Advanced Members Posts: 632
    Maximilian wrote:


    I think they look sloppy without wearing a tie. But of course Justin Thomas looked like a fool when he did wear a tie, so now I'm thinking they should wear bowties. I'm totally gonna hate the guy that wears a bowtie though.



    I honestly could not care less if they wore shorts in tournaments, as long as it's up to the players to choose if they wear them or not.



    Wonder what would happen if someone showed up for an early Thursday morning tee time on the PGA Tour wearing shorts. Would the starter not let him tee it up? Would they disqualify him after his round? Or maybe it would be more like the time limits you have to hit your shot, they wouldn't be happy about it and maybe give them a warning, but nothing would actually happen?




    I had a dress code from 6th-12th grade...jacket and either turtleneck or tie. No jeans, no sneakers.



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  • CwebbCwebb Advanced Members Posts: 5,847 ✭✭
    No shorts. I like this tradition
  • FergusonFerguson Advanced Members Posts: 4,226 ✭✭
    dalehead wrote:


    i attended the final round of the Arnold Palmer Invitational yesterday and one of the first things I saw was two players walking together down the ninth fairway, both wearing long pants of course. And it struck me that this was a statement that this round of golf was different from your typical round with your Saturday foursome. This was serious business. Me and thousands of others, almost all wearing shorts, were there to have a good time and drink a few beers. They were in the middle of a competitive round played by professionals with not only prize money at stake but in some cases career, future, and family security as well. Tour golf is different. It is a serious business conducted by professionals and they should continue to look like professionals.








    I am with you. The world has become too casual, not only in our attire but our attitudes as well.
  • MaximilianMaximilian Advanced Members Posts: 1,299 ✭✭
    manku wrote:

    Maximilian wrote:


    I think they look sloppy without wearing a tie. But of course Justin Thomas looked like a fool when he did wear a tie, so now I'm thinking they should wear bowties. I'm totally gonna hate the guy that wears a bowtie though.



    I honestly could not care less if they wore shorts in tournaments, as long as it's up to the players to choose if they wear them or not.



    Wonder what would happen if someone showed up for an early Thursday morning tee time on the PGA Tour wearing shorts. Would the starter not let him tee it up? Would they disqualify him after his round? Or maybe it would be more like the time limits you have to hit your shot, they wouldn't be happy about it and maybe give them a warning, but nothing would actually happen?




    I had a dress code from 6th-12th grade...jacket and either turtleneck or tie. No jeans, no sneakers.



    I got sent home to change numerous times (you would think I would have learned!)...Subway in NYC in the late 70s/early 80s was not the most pleasant place to be...nor were some of the streets!




    Yeah I probably couldn’t have handled a dress code in my youth either. But now when I have three young kids, I can kind of see the merit of it.



    They are required to have tucked in shirts on tour too, right? I’ve seen Rickie a couple times now with an untucked shirt. I think Phil should try wearing shorts this week, as an experiment. He’s already there but doesn’t really want to play. Perfect opportunity!



    I don’t really care one way or the other, but my prediction is that people will slowly get used to seeing pros in shorts now and in a few years the European Tour will let them wear them in competition and the PGA Tour will follow a year or two later.
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,024 ✭✭
    I thought it's shorts in practice rounds only? I do think pants look more professional, but... the women are allowed to wear "non pants" at LPGA events, and all this talk of "gender equality" floating around has me thinking, why not men?



    Why aren't we all blessed by Phil's glorious calves on a regular basis? Why must pants hide those beauties???
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Advanced Members Posts: 991 ✭✭
    No dress down Friday’s or business casual in offices too.



  • golfer07840golfer07840 Advanced Members Posts: 1,537 ✭✭


    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?
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    It’s time for shorts baby!!
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  • Togatown22Togatown22 Advanced Members Posts: 2,740 ✭✭
    Guessing I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it looks "unprofessional" to see a Tour pro practicing or competing in shorts. It looks "different" because it's new, but over time I don't think it will be as noticeable, even in competition rounds. To me, it's not the same as an attorney/financial advisor/wall street guy wearing shorts to the office. These guys are playing an outdoor sport, not sitting in a board room or office all day.
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  • FergusonFerguson Advanced Members Posts: 4,226 ✭✭
    Togatown22 wrote:


    Guessing I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it looks "unprofessional" to see a Tour pro practicing or competing in shorts. It looks "different" because it's new, but over time I don't think it will be as noticeable, even in competition rounds. To me, it's not the same as an attorney/financial advisor/wall street guy wearing shorts to the office. These guys are playing an outdoor sport, not sitting in a board room or office all day.




    Dress well, and they notice the person.

    Dress poorly and they notice the shorts and caffeinated attitude.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,214 ✭✭



    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?




    For me ? A native who was born outdoors .... not crazy . In fact it’s cooler down there than in the upcountry where I am if you count in sea breeze. It’s 97-102 here plenty of days with 90 plus percent humidity and no wind. Just hydrate all day. That’s all. I wear shorts sometimes . But I wear long pants a lot too when it’s really sunny. Shade helps as much as anything. People wear sleeves too for sun protection. Disclaimer. I also don’t go barefoot. Ever. And detest flip flops. So. Lol

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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,214 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:

    Togatown22 wrote:


    Guessing I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it looks "unprofessional" to see a Tour pro practicing or competing in shorts. It looks "different" because it's new, but over time I don't think it will be as noticeable, even in competition rounds. To me, it's not the same as an attorney/financial advisor/wall street guy wearing shorts to the office. These guys are playing an outdoor sport, not sitting in a board room or office all day.




    Dress well, and they notice the person.

    Dress poorly and they notice the shorts and caffeinated attitude.




    Bingo. I drill this into my 10 year olds head. Nobody ever missed a job offer for being over dressed. But millions for looking like bums.



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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Advanced Members Posts: 25,671 ✭✭


    It's time for shorts baby!!




    Ha!



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  • FergusonFerguson Advanced Members Posts: 4,226 ✭✭




    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?




    For me ? A native who was born outdoors .... not crazy . In fact it's cooler down there than in the upcountry where I am if you count in sea breeze. It's 97-102 here plenty of days with 90 plus percent humidity and no wind. Just hydrate all day. That's all. I wear shorts sometimes . But I wear long pants a lot too when it's really sunny. Shade helps as much as anything. People wear sleeves too for sun protection. Disclaimer. I also don't go barefoot. Ever. And detest flip flops. So. Lol






    I'm with you on the barefoot and flip flops. I can do without the sight of yellowed toe nails, ganglion cysts and dry heels.



    And those who choose to sweat pants in public - you are telling the world, "I've given up."
  • gatorMDgatorMD Hacker-in-Chief ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 4,111 ClubWRX
    let them wear shorts. it's a stupid tradition imo. it's also hot as heck at some of these tourneys.
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  • Togatown22Togatown22 Advanced Members Posts: 2,740 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:

    Togatown22 wrote:


    Guessing I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it looks "unprofessional" to see a Tour pro practicing or competing in shorts. It looks "different" because it's new, but over time I don't think it will be as noticeable, even in competition rounds. To me, it's not the same as an attorney/financial advisor/wall street guy wearing shorts to the office. These guys are playing an outdoor sport, not sitting in a board room or office all day.




    Dress well, and they notice the person.

    Dress poorly and they notice the shorts and caffeinated attitude.




    Agreed 100%.

    There are lots of ways to wear modern-cut, traditionally styled golf shorts that look miles better (and more professional) than the ill-fitting pants some of these guys trot out each week on Tour.
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    Ferguson wrote:





    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?




    For me ? A native who was born outdoors .... not crazy . In fact it's cooler down there than in the upcountry where I am if you count in sea breeze. It's 97-102 here plenty of days with 90 plus percent humidity and no wind. Just hydrate all day. That's all. I wear shorts sometimes . But I wear long pants a lot too when it's really sunny. Shade helps as much as anything. People wear sleeves too for sun protection. Disclaimer. I also don't go barefoot. Ever. And detest flip flops. So. Lol






    I'm with you on the barefoot and flip flops. I can do without the sight of yellowed toe nails, ganglion cysts and dry heels.






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  • golfer07840golfer07840 Advanced Members Posts: 1,537 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:





    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?




    For me ? A native who was born outdoors .... not crazy . In fact it's cooler down there than in the upcountry where I am if you count in sea breeze. It's 97-102 here plenty of days with 90 plus percent humidity and no wind. Just hydrate all day. That's all. I wear shorts sometimes . But I wear long pants a lot too when it's really sunny. Shade helps as much as anything. People wear sleeves too for sun protection. Disclaimer. I also don't go barefoot. Ever. And detest flip flops. So. Lol






    I'm with you on the barefoot and flip flops. I can do without the sight of yellowed toe nails, ganglion cysts and dry heels.



    And those who choose to sweat pants in public - you are telling the world, "I've given up."




    Flip Flops, sandals.. Guys.. ENOUGH ALREADY.
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,214 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:





    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?




    For me ? A native who was born outdoors .... not crazy . In fact it's cooler down there than in the upcountry where I am if you count in sea breeze. It's 97-102 here plenty of days with 90 plus percent humidity and no wind. Just hydrate all day. That's all. I wear shorts sometimes . But I wear long pants a lot too when it's really sunny. Shade helps as much as anything. People wear sleeves too for sun protection. Disclaimer. I also don't go barefoot. Ever. And detest flip flops. So. Lol






    I'm with you on the barefoot and flip flops. I can do without the sight of yellowed toe nails, ganglion cysts and dry heels.



    And those who choose to sweat pants in public - you are telling the world, "I've given up."




    Bingo. They actually have “ wear pajamas to school day. “. For middle school age kids. Wtf ? Are we just saying “ be as lazy as you can. Don’t even bother to get dressed today “.
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  • Night trainNight train Advanced Members Posts: 2,815 ✭✭
    Togatown22 wrote:

    Ferguson wrote:

    Togatown22 wrote:


    Guessing I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it looks "unprofessional" to see a Tour pro practicing or competing in shorts. It looks "different" because it's new, but over time I don't think it will be as noticeable, even in competition rounds. To me, it's not the same as an attorney/financial advisor/wall street guy wearing shorts to the office. These guys are playing an outdoor sport, not sitting in a board room or office all day.




    Dress well, and they notice the person.

    Dress poorly and they notice the shorts and caffeinated attitude.




    Agreed 100%.

    There are lots of ways to wear modern-cut, traditionally styled golf shorts that look miles better (and more professional) than the ill-fitting pants some of these guys trot out each week on Tour.




    The same guys who wear ugly ill fitting slacks.........will wear ugly ill fitting shorts
  • OldboyOldboy Advanced Members Posts: 2,369 ✭✭
    edited March 11
    i'm sure bobby jones or harry vardon would think these guys are dressed like hobos .. its all relative folks .. spikeless sneakers have made there way onto the hallowed grounds of the professional game .. gotta evolve or die



    in what other "sport" do the professionals wear pants ...... cricket .. polo? .. soooo .. there's that
  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Advanced Members Posts: 1,202
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    False. Old guard propaganda is strong in this thread..... let them wear towels (or shorts)







    edit: Tiger playin in shorts at Players practice round...lookin good
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Advanced Members Posts: 1,984 ✭✭
    Barfolomew wrote:
    False. Old guard propaganda is strong in this thread..... let them wear towels (or shorts)




    I agree. Who cares what they wear. Lots of these around.



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    Cargo shorts! I really hope someone wears cargo shorts. Heads will explode here!
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    edited March 11
    last thing we need is some kind of weird change to the game ... golf should never change ... ever ...
  • LeoLeo99LeoLeo99 Advanced Members Posts: 3,891 ✭✭
    Free the shorts!!



    Let them wear whatever they want.



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    I never wear shorts on the course, even if it's 90 degrees and humid out. I do wear them for basketball and other activities, but never golf for some reason. Maybe it is to feel like a pro.



    Oh, and I do walk and carry all the time... people have called me crazy, especially when wearing black pants too. At times I'll have to drink 6 or 7 waters and 2 or 3 Gatorades, but it's a good workout for sure.
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  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Advanced Members Posts: 2,253 ✭✭

    Ferguson wrote:





    No need for shorts anyway with today's fabrics. Under armour makes some slacks that you can actually air blow through. And wearing them in rain never once felt water come through. It just pulls it away. And I play in South Carolina. Most humid place in August on earth that isn't a protected rain forest.




    So planning a trip to Seapines (Harbour Town) in late June .. crazy or not?




    For me ? A native who was born outdoors .... not crazy . In fact it's cooler down there than in the upcountry where I am if you count in sea breeze. It's 97-102 here plenty of days with 90 plus percent humidity and no wind. Just hydrate all day. That's all. I wear shorts sometimes . But I wear long pants a lot too when it's really sunny. Shade helps as much as anything. People wear sleeves too for sun protection. Disclaimer. I also don't go barefoot. Ever. And detest flip flops. So. Lol






    I'm with you on the barefoot and flip flops. I can do without the sight of yellowed toe nails, ganglion cysts and dry heels.



    And those who choose to sweat pants in public - you are telling the world, "I've given up."




    Bingo. They actually have “ wear pajamas to school day. “. For middle school age kids. Wtf ? Are we just saying “ be as lazy as you can. Don’t even bother to get dressed today “.




    I’m 54. We had “wear your pajamas to school” day back in the 70’s. The world didn’t come to an end and most learned to dress appropriately. (Not me though, I got married in shorts and a Hard Rock t-shirt.)
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  • dubbelbogeydubbelbogey Advanced Members Posts: 336
    Has there been a recent poll on this topic? Maybe there should be.



    The thing I dislike the most about tour pros wearing long pants is the effect it has on the wannabes who dress like them during recreational golf at your local muni.



    The women pro golfers have this one figured out - they look like athletes, 100% professional, and yet don't look like the sales team down the hall on a Friday (or if you work in tech, every day). Seriously - that's what these guys look like. It's not that hard - men can figure this one out too. They can wear shorts and still look like purely professional athletes. Let the sharp designer minds at Nike, Polo, Izod, Green, Millar at this one for the tour pros and they'll figure it out in no time.
  • kyleluteskylelutes Members Posts: 56 ✭✭
    It's America. They'll wear what they want.
  • BMCBMC Advanced Members Posts: 3,453 ✭✭
    Poison Ivy, insects, sunburn, modern fabrics - all reasons I choose long pants most of the time.



    Tour pros, I don't care either way.



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    LeoLeo99 wrote:


    Free the shorts!!



    Let them wear whatever they want.



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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,214 ✭✭
    kylelutes wrote:


    It's America. They'll wear what they want.




    I think they are. Several players are on record as preferring long pants. Justin Thomas being one.
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  • sheldonjhackersheldonjhacker Advanced Members Posts: 3,699 ✭✭
    Ferguson wrote:

    dalehead wrote:


    i attended the final round of the Arnold Palmer Invitational yesterday and one of the first things I saw was two players walking together down the ninth fairway, both wearing long pants of course. And it struck me that this was a statement that this round of golf was different from your typical round with your Saturday foursome. This was serious business. Me and thousands of others, almost all wearing shorts, were there to have a good time and drink a few beers. They were in the middle of a competitive round played by professionals with not only prize money at stake but in some cases career, future, and family security as well. Tour golf is different. It is a serious business conducted by professionals and they should continue to look like professionals.








    I am with you. The world has become too casual, not only in our attire but our attitudes as well.


    AMEN, Ferguson !

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  • Big Cat 3Big Cat 3 Advanced Members Posts: 461 ✭✭
    No shorts on PGA Tour ever
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff The GOAT Advanced Members Posts: 27,949 ✭✭
    I don't really care , let them wear shorts. Most athletes wear shorts....It doesn't really bother me either way. I find it's a strange thing to have a passionate opinion about. But then again i also hate suits
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  • ea19ea19 future hall of famer Advanced Members Posts: 393
    The NASCAR style ads on every inch of clothing are way worse than shorts would be.
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  • orblessorbless Advanced Members Posts: 124 ✭✭
    Justin Thomas hates shorts on the course...
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    JT in shorts for the practice round.
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  • imakaveliimakaveli Moli Moli Moli Moli Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy... Advanced Members Posts: 12,373
    I prefer to see pros wearing long pants, at least during tournament days.
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 14,330 ClubWRX
    imakaveli wrote:


    I prefer to see pros wearing long pants, at least during tournament days.




    This is going to surprise many here who have read how I feel. Heck, I wear cargo shorts and jeans, so I’m pretty relaxed about that stuff. But it does look funny to see the shorts. I guess everyone will get used to it.
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  • MidwestGolfBumMidwestGolfBum Advanced Members Posts: 1,260 ✭✭
    BMC wrote:


    Poison Ivy, insects, sunburn, modern fabrics - all reasons I choose long pants most of the time.



    Tour pros, I don't care either way.



    Also, as I've aged, my legs aren't all that pretty.




    For a very long time I never wore shorts on the course for these reasons as well as having some of the only visible tattoos on my body on my legs. For that reason, I always wear pants when playing with customers, but don't as much now that I've become more comfortable with all the people I play with at my club. Knew what kind of stigma came with the tattoos, so placed them in spots that are easy to cover, when necessary.
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