M4 vs M6. Much difference?

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Kale_mKale_m  2286WRX Points: 422Members Posts: 2,286 Platinum Tees
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M4 is going to be cheaper. But performance wise is there much difference?



Like the matte crown on the m6.



Thinking of going to one of these in lieu of my g400lst
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Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
3wood — TBD 
Ping g410 3hy at 20*
Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
Callaway md4 52/56
Tm hi toe 60
Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
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  • Kale_mKale_m  2286WRX Points: 422Members Posts: 2,286 Platinum Tees
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    M4 is going to be cheaper. But performance wise is there much difference?



    Like the matte crown on the m6.



    Thinking of going to one of these in lieu of my g400lst
    Posted:
    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
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  • hgtiger24hgtiger24  87WRX Points: 62Handicap: 12Members Posts: 87 Fairways
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    Being realistic - no. It's not a big difference. Realistically you can fit a number of heads and shaft combos to get the best distance out of a driver. If money doesn't play a factor just play what suits your eye the best once fit. If money is involved in your decision, then i think it's a no brainer on which one to go for. Driver heads are limited by COR, they're not getting faster - some more forgiving, but not faster - and not year over year like they're claiming.
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  • HedgehogHedgehog EU 504WRX Points: 197Handicap: 5Members Posts: 504 Golden Tee
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    Yeah not much between them, if the biggest decider is "value for money" M4 takes it this whole year.
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    Ping G410 Plus 10° Tour 65X
    TM M6 15° Hzrdus Yellow 76 6.0
    G410h 19° AD-DI 85x
    Ping G410 Crossover Hzrdus Smoke 90 6.0
    Ping iBlade 5-PW Modus3 105S
    RTX4 52/56° Tour Issue S400
    Ping Glide Forged 60° DG TI S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5W Stability Shaft
    Titleist ProV1 2019
  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-Maryland 2495WRX Points: 1,105Members Posts: 2,495 Platinum Tees
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    It's 2 better.
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  • pinestreetgolfpinestreetgolf  3540WRX Points: 340Handicap: 4Members Posts: 3,540 Titanium Tees
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    It's different. There is no such thing in golf as objectively "better" or "worse", and there is no such thing as being "limited by COR" assuming you're not iron byron. COR can only be max'd in the dead center, and even Hogan only hit "2 or 3" there in any given round.



    "Hey, which is higher performance out of the box, the Mustang or the Accord?"

    "Well, they both have an absolute top speed of 120 if they're certified for road use in the United States, so they're exactly the same."



    That's not how drivers work either. Its about how it interacts with you and if the look at address gives you confidence. Do you like the sound? Does the head make you want to release or flip? Is the head-weight correct for the shaft you like at the length you like? Does twist-face 1 or 2 actually fix your miss? These are the questions that will make one better than the other or make them the same.
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    Wilson Triton 10.5 Rogue 125 msi 60 X-Flex
    Ping G30 2, 3, 4, 5*, 6 Hybrids TFC 419 Stiff Flex
    M2 7-AW ReAx 75 Graphite
    PM Grind 56* KBS Rev 2.0
    Cameron Mallet
  • arobbins3arobbins3 Michigan 138WRX Points: 95Handicap: 3.5Members Posts: 138 Fairways
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    I just went through a fitting. I gamed the M4 all last year and was curious about the new drivers. I did not notice a whole lot of difference in the numbers between the M4/6. However, the sound, feeling and looks are much different between the two. My BEST strike with the M6 was better than my best with the M4, but in terms of accuracy and consistency they were pretty close and not enough to warrant a switch in driver heads (shaft, yes) for me.
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    Cobra SZ Xtreme (9.5°) - Atmos Black 6s
    Cobra SZ (14.5°) - Atmos Blue 7s
    Titleist T-MB (3) - Modus 105s
    Titleist T100 (4-P) - Modus 105s
    TaylorMade Milled Grind 2 (50-54-60°)
    TaylorMade Spider X

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  • mxskiermxskier Denver 512WRX Points: 74Members Posts: 512 Golden Tee
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    no.
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    Ping G400 LST Tour 65S
    Cobra F8+ 3W/5W VA Slay 75
    Callaway Apex Pro 19 4-PW Oban CT 115
    Vokey SM7 50/54/60 Oban CT 115
    TaylorMade Spider X
    Taylormade TP5
  • pgoipgoi  189WRX Points: 84Members Posts: 189 Fairways
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    i actually went back 2 gen to m2 2017

    twist face absolutely didnt do it for me

    i actually aim towards high toe to draw the ball, with twist face it just blocks it right

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  • Kale_mKale_m  2286WRX Points: 422Members Posts: 2,286 Platinum Tees
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    Getting a 9.5 m4 head to try out. Lower it down to 7.5 and use my pro orange shaft. Think it should be good
    Posted:
    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
  • mmarlermmarler  1210WRX Points: 124Handicap: 5Members, Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,210 Platinum Tees
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    I had a chance to play the M6 head for 18 holes using my current shaft. The M6 head creates more spin for me. I’m sticking with the M4 head.
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    Taylormade M4 9.5 GD Tour AD DI 6x
    Taylormade SLDR 15* GD Tour AD DI 7s
    TaylorMade SLDR Hybrid 19* Tour AD Di
    Callaway Apex UT 24* Kbs Tour
    Mizuno JPX850 forged 5-PW
    Titleist Vokey SM7 Black 50*F,  54*S, 58*M KBS Tour
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2
  • AC168AC168  864WRX Points: 110Handicap: 2Members Posts: 864 Golden Tee
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    My M6 sits naturally more open so I don’t have to adjust loft sleeve lower ... all else equal, there is more loft. M6 might launch tiny bit higher but that is just me eyeballing it.
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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub  3134WRX Points: 1,280Handicap: 1.7Members Posts: 3,134 Titanium Tees
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    I don't have the data to back it up for the M6, but the M4 is a high MOI / high CG design and the head design of the M6 suggests that it is likely high MOI / lower/low CG. In terms of practical applications, this means that all things being equal, the M6 will be lower spin and low strikes won't be as punishing. I'll be curious to see the **** data on this one later this year.
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    Mizuno ST190 9.5* Diamana X'17 70XX ||  Taylormade M1 430 8.5* Tensei Pro Orange V2 70TX
    Titleist 915FD 15* Kuro Kage DC 80TX || Taylormade RSI UDI 16* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 8.8 Tour-Spec X
    Titleist 915FD 18* Kuro Kage 100XTS || Srixon Z U65 Utility 18* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 9.8 Tour-Spec X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 20* Kuro Kage XT 100TX Hybrid
    Callaway X-Forged UT 23* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Bridgestone J40 DPC 5i-7i 26*- 36* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 40*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey Special 61* Black Oxide V-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Bullseye shaft

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  • jasonp87jasonp87  2142WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 2,142 Platinum Tees
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    M6 is definetly lower spin then last years m4. Id even venture to say lower then the m3 depending on weight positions.



    I found the m6 to be much better for ballspeed retention and consistency across the face compared to the m3. Slightly better then m4. Does it warrant an upgrade if u have an m4....no



    If you have neither and price isnt an issue id get an m6.
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    Driver
    TM M6 (9) Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X 45"
    3W
    TM M3 (16) Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X 43.25"
    5W
    TM M3 (19) Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X 42.25"
    3i
    TM TP UDI (20.5) Dynamic Gold X100
    Irons
    Mizuno MP4 (4-PW) Modus 3 125X
    Wedges---TM Milled Grind Modus 3 125X (48) & TM Hi-Toe (54)(60) Modus 3 125 Wedge
    Putter
    TM Spider Tour Black (DJ) 34" SS Pistol GTR
  • OspreyCIOspreyCI Valley of the Sun 5269WRX Points: 398Handicap: 10Members Posts: 5,269 Titanium Tees
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    I am torn between a Tour Issue M4 amd retail M6.

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    TM SIM Max D 10.5 GD AD DI Black 5s
    TM M4 15* GD AD DI 6s
    TM M2 #3 19* Fujikura
    TM P790 4-AW Modus 105
    TM MG2 54*
    TM HT Bigfoot 60*
    PXG Gen2 Gunboat
  • pinhigh27pinhigh27  9808WRX Points: 331Members Posts: 9,808 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @OspreyCI said:

    I am torn between a Tour Issue M4 amd retail M6.

    Tour issue means nothing. It just means you know the specs

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  • Kale_mKale_m  2286WRX Points: 422Members Posts: 2,286 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @pinhigh27 said:

    On -, @OspreyCI said:

    I am torn between a Tour Issue M4 amd retail M6.

    Tour issue means nothing. It just means you know the specs

    And have no warranty

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    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
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  • Kale_mKale_m  2286WRX Points: 422Members Posts: 2,286 Platinum Tees
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    Completely happy with my 9.5 m4 head I got. Paired with the pro orange 70tx shaft it is a very consistent set up for me!

    Posted:
    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 

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