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How close does $taper play to C-taper?

 SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
Title says it all....anyone switch from ctaper to $taper and keep the tight dispersion but lose the jolt?

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  • Darth_BladerDarth_Blader Advanced Members Posts: 979 ✭✭
    They must be the best shafts ever produced at their current retail $$!



    Nonetheless I am totally interested as well.
    Cobra F9 9* UST Attas Coool
    Rogue 15* Aldila Max 75
    Vsteel 7w Rogue 80
    S55 4-PW CTaper S+
    Scratch 8620 50* KBS CTaper S+
    Scratch 8620 56* KBS CTaper S+
    Scratch TI 60 DG 400
    Odyssey LE PT10
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,024 ✭✭
    IMO, they play much more smooth than CT. I used the S flex at golf galaxy to demo some apex pro's and really enjoyed them. A tinyyyy bit more stiffness could have helped me though, at around 92-95mph, moderate transition, I would probably play S+. X would get a little too heavy.
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    LTD Kai'li 70X
    818H2 Tour Blue 85X
    Apex Pro Smoke incoming!!
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    Stealth 2.0 54/12SS
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    TP5X
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  • jjmurryjjmurry Members Posts: 47 ✭✭
    Interested as well in getting some info on $taper vs. Ctaper - tennis elbow is upon me and am wondering if there would be a noticeable difference in both feel and distance/dispersion. Thanks!
    TS 3 - 8.5* GD AD IZ 7X
    TS2 - 15* EvenFlow T1100 75S
    Cobra F9 Speedback 4i - 18.5* AD IZ 95X Hybrid shaft
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  • avguyavguy Replacement Player Advanced Members Posts: 1,045 ✭✭
    edited March 12
    I've read from many accounts here over the years that no steel will save elbow damage from iron strikes - it all vibrates too much. So, then modern graphite like Recoils are the best option to cover just equipment as a coping mechanism coming off of C-Tapers.



    Do you try the KBS Shaft Fit function on their website and see if $-Taper is a decent one for your game? Mine kept coming up with C-Taper Lites.



    I went from graphite back to steel, but I changed my grip and swing. FWIW, I believe in the Nippon Modus steel as something that is indeed fine. I just recently started a KBS shaft, in my P790 w/CTL - only one range session so far.
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Bag One
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive][font=comic sans ms,cursive]D:Titleist 917 D2 (MR Diamana Blue 60)[/font][/font][/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]3W:TM RBZ ts[/font]
    H: 17 [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Titleist 915, 21 Titleist 816, 25 Bridgestone Precept ECU[/font]

    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]5-PW:[/font]TM P790(KBS CTL)
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]W:Mizuno 52/Vokey SM6 58[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]P:Bellum Winmore Midi 787[/font]


    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Bag Two[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]D:[/font]
    Srixon Z355 (MR Kuro Kage 60)
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]3W:TM R11 ti
    H: 18 TM 2.0 SF, 21 TM 2.0 SF, 25 Cobra ACP[/font]

    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]5-PW:TM M5[/font](Nippon Modus 105)
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]W:Mizuno 53/Mizuno 58
    P:Guerin TS Black 370[/font]
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Advanced Members Posts: 7,024 ✭✭
    avguy wrote:


    I've read from many accounts here over the years that no steel will save elbow damage from iron strikes - it all vibrates too much. So, then modern graphite like Recoils are the best option to cover just equipment as a coping mechanism coming off of C-Tapers.



    Do you try the KBS Shaft Fit function on their website and see if $-Taper is a decent one for your game? Mine kept coming up with C-Taper Lites.



    I went from graphite back to steel, but I changed my grip and swing. FWIW, I believe in the Nippon Modus steel as something that is indeed fine. I just recently started a KBS shaft, in my P790 w/CTL - only one range session so far.


    I'm not sure their online fitting tool is up to date. I tried like 9 different combo's of things and it just kept spitting KBS Tour and C Tapers at me, just in various flexes.



    I've hit pretty much every steel shaft there is now and I'd say the $ Taper is fairly similar to Modus 120. I'm very sensitive to shafts it seems as in fittings last year I couldn't control anything but the modus 120. The $ Taper felt pretty familar and I remember paired up with the Apex Pro... not wanting to leave the store and to keep hitting more shots. If I wanted a stealth look, AP19 Smoke with the Black $ Taper would be a cool build.



    Compared to KBS Tour 120 which has always been touted as being smooth, I find the $ Taper even better.
    WITB
    LTD Pro Kiyoshi White 65X
    LTD Kai'li 70X
    818H2 Tour Blue 85X
    Apex Pro Smoke incoming!!
    Stealth 2.0 50/10SS
    Stealth 2.0 54/12SS
    Stealth 2.0 58/10SS
    TP Black Copper Juno
    TP5X
    Sun Mountain 4.5 Bag
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:

    avguy wrote:


    I've read from many accounts here over the years that no steel will save elbow damage from iron strikes - it all vibrates too much. So, then modern graphite like Recoils are the best option to cover just equipment as a coping mechanism coming off of C-Tapers.



    Do you try the KBS Shaft Fit function on their website and see if $-Taper is a decent one for your game? Mine kept coming up with C-Taper Lites.



    I went from graphite back to steel, but I changed my grip and swing. FWIW, I believe in the Nippon Modus steel as something that is indeed fine. I just recently started a KBS shaft, in my P790 w/CTL - only one range session so far.


    I'm not sure their online fitting tool is up to date. I tried like 9 different combo's of things and it just kept spitting KBS Tour and C Tapers at me, just in various flexes.



    I've hit pretty much every steel shaft there is now and I'd say the $ Taper is fairly similar to Modus 120. I'm very sensitive to shafts it seems as in fittings last year I couldn't control anything but the modus 120. The $ Taper felt pretty familar and I remember paired up with the Apex Pro... not wanting to leave the store and to keep hitting more shots. If I wanted a stealth look, AP19 Smoke with the Black $ Taper would be a cool build.



    Compared to KBS Tour 120 which has always been touted as being smooth, I find the $ Taper even better.




    Great post and I too am very shaft sensitive....modus 120 plays weirdly soft and my demo $taper is in a 3i ....very smooth but looser than I'd like...modus 105 is tighter but not versatile enough.....ctaper is straight line deadly just boardy....



    Maybe I'm a ctaper lite kinda guy.....keep it coming
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    avguy wrote:


    I've read from many accounts here over the years that no steel will save elbow damage from iron strikes - it all vibrates too much. So, then modern graphite like Recoils are the best option to cover just equipment as a coping mechanism coming off of C-Tapers.



    Do you try the KBS Shaft Fit function on their website and see if $-Taper is a decent one for your game? Mine kept coming up with C-Taper Lites.



    I went from graphite back to steel, but I changed my grip and swing. FWIW, I believe in the Nippon Modus steel as something that is indeed fine. I just recently started a KBS shaft, in my P790 w/CTL - only one range session so far.




    what flex are you using and how has the flight/spin been during the range session?
  • ChipNRunChipNRun Advanced Members Posts: 1,137 ✭✭
    edited March 12
    Here is a KBS Chart that arrays the shafts by launch and spin.



    $-Taper gives a bit higher launch and spin than the C-Taper.



    (Edit: added more legible chart)



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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    ChipNRun wrote:


    Here is a KBS Chart that arrays the shafts by launch and spin.



    $-Taper gives a bit higher launch and spin than the C-Taper.



    (Edit: added more legible chart)



    47585555_278913936105314_6999068753097196163_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com






    Thanks ....I guess I'm looking for more of a real ,on course experience....
  • DYOS4DYOS4 Advanced Members Posts: 568
    I can't stand KBS C-Taper but KBS Tour 120 is awesome to me. $-Taper 120 was good and close to KBS Tour 120 but with a bit more stiffness and backbone.
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    Titleist 915F 16.5*
    Titleist 818H2 21*
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  • tdk8180tdk8180 Advanced Members Posts: 2,392
    I went from CTaper Regulars to $Tapers in 115 R+...$-Tapers are the best shaft money can buy.
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    tdk8180 wrote:


    I went from CTaper Regulars to $Tapers in 115 R+...$-Tapers are the best shaft money can buy.






    Did the performance stay the same with just better feel?
  • PepsiDuckPepsiDuck Advanced Members Posts: 1,838 ✭✭
    Went from C Taper Lite to the $ Taper in X, and I’d describe it as more feel (like DG) with the same “spin cutting” profile and lower launch.

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    TaylorMade M2 (2017) Tour 15* - Fujikura Motore Speeder 757 X
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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    PepsiDuck wrote:


    Went from C Taper Lite to the $ Taper in X, and I’d describe it as more feel (like DG) with the same “spin cutting” profile and lower launch.




    Great description! I think that's what I couldn't put my finger on....dg feel and flight
  • FireProFirePro Advanced Members Posts: 863
    Played Tours first in X then C-Taper in S+, the tour spun to much but felt great the C-Tapers launched low and spun low which was great for my game but I lost a little feel. the $-Tapers came out and they had a similar feel to the tours launched higher than the C-Tapers which helped but didn't balloon on me which is why I got away from the tours. Best of both worlds in my opinion. currently playing $-taper X
    Cobra FlyZ+ @ 8.5 deg w/Grafalloy (White) Blue X-Stiff tipped 3/4" @ 44.75"
    Taylormade 2017 M1 set to 13 deg w/ RBZ TP Aldila RIP Alpha 70X Tipped 1" @ 42.5"
    Titleist 909 F2 (18.5deg) UST AxivCore Tour Green 95X Tipped 1.5" @ 41.5"
    Srixon Z U45 4 & 2 w/ Aldila RIP Alpha 105 X Hybrid shaft (4 @ 38.5", 2 @ 39.5")
    Srixon Z745 (5-PW) w/ KBS $-Taper X 130 Black
    Hand Crafted wedges from Kyoei Raw Forged Blanks
    52deg w/ KBS $-Taper 130X PW Shaft
    56deg w/ KBS $-Taper 130X PW Shaft
    60deg w/ KBS $-Taper 130X 8i Shaft
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  • avguyavguy Replacement Player Advanced Members Posts: 1,045 ✭✭
    SwooshLT wrote:

    avguy wrote:


    I've read from many accounts here over the years that no steel will save elbow damage from iron strikes - it all vibrates too much. So, then modern graphite like Recoils are the best option to cover just equipment as a coping mechanism coming off of C-Tapers.



    Do you try the KBS Shaft Fit function on their website and see if $-Taper is a decent one for your game? Mine kept coming up with C-Taper Lites.



    I went from graphite back to steel, but I changed my grip and swing. FWIW, I believe in the Nippon Modus steel as something that is indeed fine. I just recently started a KBS shaft, in my P790 w/CTL - only one range session so far.




    what flex are you using and how has the flight/spin been during the range session?




    Swoosh - I'm in the CTL-S, what was recommended. Being that session was kinda small sample size and also the virgin outing with P790s, I can't give much detail other than it is acceptable - compared to only one month into my M5 irons in Modus 105 S. I have hit the CTL higher and spin seems more than Modus 105, but need some course time with "other than range rocks for balls" to compare.



    I'm having a jolly time with these two new shafts and heads; never played KBS before but have played alot in Modus 125 R .
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Bag One
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive][font=comic sans ms,cursive]D:Titleist 917 D2 (MR Diamana Blue 60)[/font][/font][/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]3W:TM RBZ ts[/font]
    H: 17 [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Titleist 915, 21 Titleist 816, 25 Bridgestone Precept ECU[/font]

    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]5-PW:[/font]TM P790(KBS CTL)
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]W:Mizuno 52/Vokey SM6 58[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]P:Bellum Winmore Midi 787[/font]


    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Bag Two[/font]
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]D:[/font]
    Srixon Z355 (MR Kuro Kage 60)
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]3W:TM R11 ti
    H: 18 TM 2.0 SF, 21 TM 2.0 SF, 25 Cobra ACP[/font]

    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]5-PW:TM M5[/font](Nippon Modus 105)
    [font=comic sans ms,cursive]W:Mizuno 53/Mizuno 58
    P:Guerin TS Black 370[/font]
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    avguy wrote:

    SwooshLT wrote:

    avguy wrote:


    I've read from many accounts here over the years that no steel will save elbow damage from iron strikes - it all vibrates too much. So, then modern graphite like Recoils are the best option to cover just equipment as a coping mechanism coming off of C-Tapers.



    Do you try the KBS Shaft Fit function on their website and see if $-Taper is a decent one for your game? Mine kept coming up with C-Taper Lites.



    I went from graphite back to steel, but I changed my grip and swing. FWIW, I believe in the Nippon Modus steel as something that is indeed fine. I just recently started a KBS shaft, in my P790 w/CTL - only one range session so far.




    what flex are you using and how has the flight/spin been during the range session?




    Swoosh - I'm in the CTL-S, what was recommended. Being that session was kinda small sample size and also the virgin outing with P790s, I can't give much detail other than it is acceptable - compared to only one month into my M5 irons in Modus 105 S. I have hit the CTL higher and spin seems more than Modus 105, but need some course time with "other than range rocks for balls" to compare.



    I'm having a jolly time with these two new shafts and heads; never played KBS before but have played alot in Modus 125 R .




    Keep me posted!
  • EvolvedEvolved Advanced Members Posts: 724
    SwooshLT wrote:

    ChipNRun wrote:


    Here is a KBS Chart that arrays the shafts by launch and spin.



    $-Taper gives a bit higher launch and spin than the C-Taper.



    (Edit: added more legible chart)



    47585555_278913936105314_6999068753097196163_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com






    Thanks ....I guess I'm looking for more of a real ,on course experience....




    I've tried most of those shafts(range/course) and that chart is accurate.
  • nova6868nova6868 Advanced Members Posts: 4,674 ✭✭
    DYOS4 wrote:


    I can't stand KBS C-Taper but KBS Tour 120 is awesome to me. $-Taper 120 was good and close to KBS Tour 120 but with a bit more stiffness and backbone.




    This makes sense. The profile of $-Taper is much closer to Tour than the C-Taper.

  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    Evolved wrote:

    SwooshLT wrote:

    ChipNRun wrote:


    Here is a KBS Chart that arrays the shafts by launch and spin.



    $-Taper gives a bit higher launch and spin than the C-Taper.



    (Edit: added more legible chart)



    47585555_278913936105314_6999068753097196163_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com






    Thanks ....I guess I'm looking for more of a real ,on course experience....




    I've tried most of those shafts(range/course) and that chart is accurate.




    Which shaft would you recommend for me then? I love the tightness in which ctaper plays....but that tightness also feels boardy....I'm regular flex ctaper.....so ctaper lite or something else?
  • caseyb918caseyb918 Members Posts: 82 ✭✭
    FirePro wrote:


    Played Tours first in X then C-Taper in S+, the tour spun to much but felt great the C-Tapers launched low and spun low which was great for my game but I lost a little feel. the $-Tapers came out and they had a similar feel to the tours launched higher than the C-Tapers which helped but didn't balloon on me which is why I got away from the tours. Best of both worlds in my opinion. currently playing $-taper X




    Have you tried the Tour V by chance? I'm a C-Taper player currently, but have been looking at the $ Taper & Tour Vs before my next fitting.
    In the bag:

    915D4 8.5* Rouge Silver 110MSI 60 X
    915F 15* Diamana S+ 80TX
    Mizuno JPX850 Forged 4 - PW KBS C-Taper+
    Vokey 50*, 54* & 60* S400
    Taylormade Spider Tour
  • trying2scratchtrying2scratch Advanced Members Posts: 1,052 ✭✭
    I play the tour v now. Came from the c taper. I tried the c taper in stiff but felt like too much. Then tried soft stepping but that didn't fix it. I just could never find my tempo/ swing with them. Dispersion was always good but always seemed to struggle with tying to swing too hard with them. Think it's the way it feels in backswing. Just couldn't feel it load really then tried to speed up at the wrong time on the down swing. That's the best way I can describe it.



    Also found I would get some wrist and elbow pain after rounds.



    Tour v seems to help cut down my natural high spin like the CT, but feels much better. Find half and 3/4 shots feel much better too.



    Just need to be carefully with KBS as they swing weight lighter then other shafts. So you could lose a cpl points if your not carefully.
  • tdk8180tdk8180 Advanced Members Posts: 2,392
    SwooshLT wrote:

    tdk8180 wrote:


    I went from CTaper Regulars to $Tapers in 115 R+...$-Tapers are the best shaft money can buy.






    Did the performance stay the same with just better feel?




    The performance was better with the $ Tapers.



    I attained a higher launch with about the same spin numbers. The side spin numbers were good enough, I could now work the ball if needed vs having a lot of straight shots with the C Taper.



    The feel was infinitely better. I could swing hard and not worry about loose shots and I could ease up on one and get good response from the shaft.



    They are playable thru the whole set including wedges. They are an underrated wedge shaft.



    They have a nice Black PVD finish.



    The best shaft they make....hands down.
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,084 ClubWRX
    I knew of these shafts but had not played them and probably never would have bought them as I assumed they were more or less like C Tapers, which I like but felt like the stiff was a bit too much for me. Had them in blades and I was not launching them. Moved to C Taper Reg plus and a cavity slot club and really worked well. Still, I preferred C Taper Lite X flex, softstepped once. For me to play C Taper stiff, I need a spring-faced iron.



    But I now have the $Tapers, which just happened to be in two sets I picked up — Cobra Forged Tec Blacks OL/VL combo and the Bridgestone Tour B X-CPB irons, which were a Japan-only release.



    In short, I am loving everything about the $Tapers. They do launch a bit higher and they feel smooth, real smooth. For me, a much better fit than the Modus 120, which is a nice shaft but never have gotten that sweet feel from them others do. It is a shaft that can produce floaty shots for me. Something about the bend profile on the Modus makes it hard for me to feel that shaft.



    I have only played two rounds with the $ Tapers and I already can say I would never again take a club with Modus 120’s in them over the $Taper. Definitely my favorite KBS shaft and one of my favorite shafts overall, along with the CTL, the DG 120 lineup, the Nippon 1150, Project X Rifles and Steelfiber 110. Those are the types of shafts I like, to give you an idea.



    Took the Bridgestone Tour B/$ Tapers out for a round two days ago and they just played great. Very good day hitting the greens. Had a little wind. The ball went right through it. (Also, the Tour B X-CBP is an outstanding golf club that is so easy to play. Imagine the J15CB with rockets attached to the long and mid irons.)



    The $ Taper definitely does not feel as stout as the C Taper, but for me it is not playing soft to flex. I am getting my yardages, they just feel a lot better. To me they feel better than all the shafts I have tried. They are expensive so I had not considered them. Now, any iron that comes with $Taper stiffs in them is what I would look for, but I am going to play these Bridgestones because my first rounds with them have been so promising. It is almost too bad KBS named them $Tapers because they are so different from CTapers in feel. I also struggled with a wrist injury last sunmer (TFCC tear, sidelined for 3 months) and was getting some residual soreness even though it is healed. Felt nothing at all with the $Tapers. If you can test them, they are worth the time. Like I said, never would have played them due to price and assumed similarity to CTaper, but glad I did. Very much its own design. Playing again tomorrow.
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    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,925 ✭✭
    dmeeksDC wrote:


    I knew of these shafts but had not played them and probably never would have bought them as I assumed they were more or less like C Tapers, which I like but felt like the stiff was a bit too much for me. Had them in blades and I was not launching them. Moved to C Taper Reg plus and a cavity slot club and really worked well. Still, I preferred C Taper Lite X flex, softstepped once. For me to play C Taper stiff, I need a spring-faced iron.



    But I now have the $Tapers, which just happened to be in two sets I picked up — Cobra Forged Tec Blacks OL/VL combo and the Bridgestone Tour B X-CPB irons, which were a Japan-only release.



    In short, I am loving everything about the $Tapers. They do launch a bit higher and they feel smooth, real smooth. For me, a much better fit than the Modus 120, which is a nice shaft but never have gotten that sweet feel from them others do. It is a shaft that can produce floaty shots for me. Something about the bend profile on the Modus makes it hard for me to feel that shaft.



    I have only played two rounds with the $ Tapers and I already can say I would never again take a club with Modus 120’s in them over the $Taper. Definitely my favorite KBS shaft and one of my favorite shafts overall, along with the CTL, the DG 120 lineup, the Nippon 1150, Project X Rifles and Steelfiber 110. Those are the types of shafts I like, to give you an idea.



    Took the Bridgestone Tour B/$ Tapers out for a round two days ago and they just played great. Very good day hitting the greens. Had a little wind. The ball went right through it. (Also, the Tour B X-CBP is an outstanding golf club that is so easy to play. Imagine the J15CB with rockets attached to the long and mid irons.)



    The $ Taper definitely does not feel as stout as the C Taper, but for me it is not playing soft to flex. I am getting my yardages, they just feel a lot better. To me they feel better than all the shafts I have tried. They are expensive so I had not considered them. Now, any iron that comes with $Taper stiffs in them is what I would look for, but I am going to play these Bridgestones because my first rounds with them have been so promising. It is almost too bad KBS named them $Tapers because they are so different from CTapers in feel. I also struggled with a wrist injury last sunmer (TFCC tear, sidelined for 3 months) and was getting some residual soreness even though it is healed. Felt nothing at all with the $Tapers. If you can test them, they are worth the time. Like I said, never would have played them due to price and assumed similarity to CTaper, but glad I did. Very much its own design. Playing again tomorrow.






    Great response and I'll need to try again soon.....
  • Hot Rod 71Hot Rod 71 #TheWRX ClubWRX Charter Members, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 8,798 ClubWRX
    $-Taper launch a little higher than the C-Tapers but the ball flight flattens out quickly; its a really nice flight. The $-Tapers feels much better than the C-Tapers.



    They are closer in feel to the KBS Tour with a little more spin and slightly higher launch than the C-Taper.



    I tend to play X in my irons, but I have the $-Tapers 120 Stiff in a set of 2013 X-Forged and they perform very well. Flight is easy to control and I can swing hard without feeling as though I'm overpowering the shaft. I'm getting older and a little slower so that may have something to do with that, haha.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Advanced Members Posts: 7,035 ✭✭
    The Tour V is much closer in performance to the C Taper than the $ Taper and it’s much more affordable.



    Similar Low spin with a higher launch and feels much nicer than C Taper.. There are heavier 125 S+ and 130 X tour spec versions available if needed.



    I’ve owened all of them. $ Taper are unequivocally not worth the steep price in my opinion. I’d only get them if they were included as a stock shaft.



    The $ Taper is basically a KBS Tour with a bit less spin. That is not a bad thing, it’s just not worth $55 a shaft to me.
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  • ChipNRunChipNRun Advanced Members Posts: 1,137 ✭✭
    The base C-Taper had become the KBS equivalent of Project X 6.0 -- a more robust shaft than people think it is.
    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 95 gr. (As of 21 Nov 2018)
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS +
    MD.PM 60°/10 / KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr. |
    Putter: Slotline Inertial SL-583F / 34" w. SuperStroke 2.0 MidSlim grip
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperSoft
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
  • EvolvedEvolved Advanced Members Posts: 724
    SwooshLT wrote:

    Evolved wrote:

    SwooshLT wrote:

    ChipNRun wrote:


    Here is a KBS Chart that arrays the shafts by launch and spin.



    $-Taper gives a bit higher launch and spin than the C-Taper.



    (Edit: added more legible chart)



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    Thanks ....I guess I'm looking for more of a real ,on course experience....




    I've tried most of those shafts(range/course) and that chart is accurate.




    Which shaft would you recommend for me then? I love the tightness in which ctaper plays....but that tightness also feels boardy....I'm regular flex ctaper.....so ctaper lite or something else?




    Tour V would be the next step "up" if you want to raise flight without adding much spin. I played tour V in ping S55's for a few years. I play $-taper in '18 callaway x-forged now.
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,084 ClubWRX
    Update No. 2, as I just started gaming these.



    Another round today with the $Taper. These fit me well. Yes, it is modeled off the KBS Tour profile — Kim Braly says every iron shaft they make is — but it is a noticeably different performance for me. I hit the Tours high with a ton of spin. Like the feel but I spin them a lot.



    The $ Taper is mid-launch but more of a boring trajectory — flies more like a PX Rifle for me but way smoother at impact — and it is spinning less and going straight. Still stops on a dime. Does not pull back, which I do not want anyway, more like a dart that stops where you hit it. They are really a nice shaft. They are expensive as aftermarket shafts, but as a no-charge upgrade the $Taper is hard to resist. I like them better than the Tour or the CTaper. I am playing the 120g version and the same weight in the CTaper did not work for me. Felt like too much work. That weight is perfect in these. Feels like a lighter shaft but it’s not. Plenty of power. Very much does feel like it is a blend of the Tour and CTaper.

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  • BogeyLJABogeyLJA Advanced Members Posts: 1,379 ✭✭
    Who is offering at no upcharge?
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