Should I Be Embarrassed?

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So I was fitted to a Callaway Rogue Draw driver recently. Really it was the choice of the F9 and the Rogue Draw. I ultimately went with Rogue because it gave me slightly better numbers and its cheaper.



My question is should it be embarrassing to admit that I need a draw driver? I have never had one and honestly I have always had the bias that if you get a Draw biased driver you are just hiding faults in your swing. And additionally if I were to correct those faults have I now made a bad purchase because I no longer produce the sidespin in my impact and now I'm hitting hooks?



Is that how most people feel? Am I just overthinking things? Do I really have to worry about hooks if my swing all of sudden works itself out over the course of the season?
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[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
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  • sdandreasdandrea Steve  2642WRX Points: 498Handicap: 11Members Posts: 2,642 Titanium Tees
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    Why care what anyone else thinks? Players should be judged by their scorecard, not their clubs. I play offset or draw biased drivers and game improvement or super game improvement irons. They help me play my best. Our club champion for about 6 years running was a low single digit handicapper with Callaway Big Bertha irons.
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    • Callaway Rogue 6h
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  • Adam CAdam C  673WRX Points: 368Handicap: 4Members Posts: 673 Golden Tee
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    Unless you are planning on dedicating 40 hr/week to your swing, chances are your fade tendencies are not going to change. They may lessen, but will still be there. Buy clubs for the golfer you are now, not the golfer you might be somewhere in the future.
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  • 03trdblack03trdblack Wake Forest, NC 2047WRX Points: 294Handicap: 1.0ClubWRX Posts: 2,047 ClubWRX
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    Look at some of the best players in the world, Tiger, Rory etc and you'll see they have their weight settings in a draw biased setting to help turn it over. Your draw driver is essentially the same thing.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to Canada 13297WRX Points: 2,180Handicap: 1.6Members Posts: 13,297 Titanium Tees
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    SUPER DUPER embarrased
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    Callaway GBB 5w 18* Aldila NVS Pink 85x 
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* GD Tour AD DI 95x
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* GD Tour AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919T 6 - GW UST 95 Recoil f4 
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  • caniac6caniac6  3255WRX Points: 890Handicap: 4Members Posts: 3,255 Titanium Tees
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    cardoustie wrote:


    SUPER DUPER embarrased
    And probably never show you face at the course!
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  • 1s1k1s1k A-Town, MA 584WRX Points: 301Handicap: 5'ishMembers Posts: 584 Golden Tee
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    If you see me at the course please just keep walking by
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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8786WRX Points: 2,475Members Posts: 8,786 Titanium Tees
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    Might as well throw the ball retriever and iron covers in while you are at it.
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  • caniac6caniac6  3255WRX Points: 890Handicap: 4Members Posts: 3,255 Titanium Tees
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    Don't ask. Don't tell.
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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX  3776WRX Points: 531Members Posts: 3,776 Titanium Tees
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    Nobody cares. Seriously, has anyone you’ve ever played with asked or gone through your bag checking your gear?
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  • lookylookitzadamlookylookitzadam SoCal 614WRX Points: 218Handicap: 2.7Members Posts: 614 Golden Tee
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    No one cares what you play. Play whatever works for you and enjoy your game.
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  • backhillbackhill  114WRX Points: 70Members Posts: 114 Fairways
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    What everyone else has said. I couldn't even tell you what my playing partners who I play with weekly have in the bag.
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  • @_the_crook@_the_crook  838WRX Points: 323Members Posts: 838 Golden Tee
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    add a dot and it's a custom D-Raw
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    currently playing:
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    Warbirds, 3+, 4
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    it works

    when I need a change, there are 12 bags full to choose from .
  • np78np78  283WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 283
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    yes you should quit golf forever
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  • ppl4golfppl4golf Ontario 1073WRX Points: 93Members Posts: 1,073 Platinum Tees
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    I don’t think his fundamental question - whether the club will eventually overcorrect things - is of no merit.



    However, the answer is absolutely it won’t make a **** difference after you fixed your fundamental flaw(s) leading to fade/slices (if there was any).



    This almost always hold true...the more sound the swing, the more you are able to handle anything (any flex, weight, color, price range, etc, etc) as long as specs are close to standard.
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker  545WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 545 Bunkers
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    Soooo what you’re all saying is I might as well put the senior shaft in now and buy myself a Niblick while I’m at it. I get it, im being insecure for no reason. I’m just going to play what works for me.



    *Apologies if I offended any senior flex using, Niblick playing golfers. No offense was meant!
    Posted:
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
  • whiteout73whiteout73  1053WRX Points: 147Handicap: 3Members Posts: 1,053 Platinum Tees
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    Oh, **** no. I'm a low-single-digit cap, and I play a Ping G400 SFT, with a couple pieces of lead tape on the heal. I'm only 5'6", it's tough for me to turn over these modern big drivers.
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  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NC 3960WRX Points: 268Members Posts: 3,960 Titanium Tees
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    Pings from the beginning

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  • Mikey5eMikey5e mich 1198WRX Points: 242Handicap: 15Members Posts: 1,198 Platinum Tees
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    I don't care wth others think, use the club/setting that works for you. For some reason my swing falls apart in the draw biased setting, so I never used it. Ideally, golfers should fashion their swing properly to the neutral setting, imo.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to Canada 13297WRX Points: 2,180Handicap: 1.6Members Posts: 13,297 Titanium Tees
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    Think of it this way. A lot of players set their clubs up to avoid the hook .. or "the lefts" so to speak.



    Toe weight, flat lies, lead tape (a gift from the heavens fwiw) etc etc



    It's no different that some pre-set for not going right


    1s1k wrote:


    If you see me at the course please just keep walking by




    And don't touch my blades or give me advice when you walk the line at the range
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    Post edited by Unknown User on

    Ping G400 LST 11* GD Pershing 55x
    Ping G400 3w 15.1* Oban Revenge 65x
    Callaway GBB 5w 18* Aldila NVS Pink 85x 
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* GD Tour AD DI 95x
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* GD Tour AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919T 6 - GW UST 95 Recoil f4 
    Ping Glide SS 54* wrx UST 110 Recoil f4
    Ping Glide ES 59* wrx UST 110 Recoil f4
    Callaway PM grind 64* UST 110 Recoil f4
    Piretti Matera Elite 

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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank  14970WRX Points: 980ClubWRX Posts: 14,970 ClubWRX
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    Yes, be embarrassed!��



    Have a very sheepish look on your face as you accept your buddies money that you won because all of a sudden you’re playing second shots from much more favorable positions



    If it helps you shoot better scores, embrace it wholeheartedly with no shame at all!
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker  545WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 545 Bunkers
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    Hey just noticed as well, the hosel is set to Draw as well, so that makes me feel a little better as if I’m missing I start going too far right I can dial it back to the neutral setting.

    I don’t really care,I think I’m just letting my mind wander since I’m waiting for this club to come in.

    I just think it’s funny, that before the fitting I was telling myself what I imagined I’d be fitted too and Callaway draw biased driver was not one of them.



    But you are all correct, I wouldn’t be thinking this at all if the club had a movable weight and the fitter moved the weight to the heel. This is no different and in fact I asked the fitter that would I see a difference between Rogue Draw and the new Flash. The fitter told me he wouldn’t have fitted me for a Flash because the draw bias on the flash is not as significant as the Rogue Draw.
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    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
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  • Kale_mKale_m  2273WRX Points: 411Members Posts: 2,273 Platinum Tees
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    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is
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    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker  545WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 545 Bunkers
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    Kale_m wrote:


    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is




    Can you explain what you mean?
    Posted:
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
  • JStangJStang  2722WRX Points: 304Handicap: 7.1Members Posts: 2,722 Titanium Tees
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    Having a "draw" driver is way less embarrassing than than having to yell "FORE" all day because you are in the wrong fairway.
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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8786WRX Points: 2,475Members Posts: 8,786 Titanium Tees
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    Soooo what you're all saying is I might as well put the senior shaft in now and buy myself a Niblick while I'm at it. I get it, im being insecure for no reason. I'm just going to play what works for me.



    *Apologies if I offended any senior flex using, Niblick playing golfers. No offense was meant!




    We had one guy in our group get fit into SR shafts and tried to convince us it stood for stiff-regular. He might be right, but we still razz him for it every time lol
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  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER  981WRX Points: 126Members Posts: 981 Golden Tee
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    you might be playing for the wrong reasons or with the wrong people if it matters at all.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to Canada 13297WRX Points: 2,180Handicap: 1.6Members Posts: 13,297 Titanium Tees
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    one of the "secrets" of golf is to only miss in one direction. Gospel Jack 72:1986



    If you can always aim down right rough line and never ever push it right (your miss is always left rough) then you are golden my friend
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    Ping G400 LST 11* GD Pershing 55x
    Ping G400 3w 15.1* Oban Revenge 65x
    Callaway GBB 5w 18* Aldila NVS Pink 85x 
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* GD Tour AD DI 95x
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* GD Tour AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919T 6 - GW UST 95 Recoil f4 
    Ping Glide SS 54* wrx UST 110 Recoil f4
    Ping Glide ES 59* wrx UST 110 Recoil f4
    Callaway PM grind 64* UST 110 Recoil f4
    Piretti Matera Elite 

    '19 Index 0.9 ~ 3.7
  • Kale_mKale_m  2273WRX Points: 411Members Posts: 2,273 Platinum Tees
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    Kale_m wrote:


    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is




    Can you explain what you mean?




    What? You said it is embarrassing having a “draw driver”



    What I am saying is how would anyone know you had one unless you told them? 99% of golfers would not know a “draw” driver from any other driver.. who cares
    Posted:
    Ping g410 LST 9* weight in toe, PW70tx 
    3wood — TBD 
    Ping g410 3hy at 20*
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Oddessey stoke lab 10s 
  • defender2803defender2803 Handicap...it's over 9000!!  247WRX Points: 64Handicap: 9001Members Posts: 247 Fairways
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    My Ping G10 has the big word DRAW written on it. Could care less what people think. I hit it well.



    R7 Draw driver...very popular. R7 draw irons...very popular.
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    Ping G10 3w
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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area. 25281WRX Points: 2,333Handicap: 2 ManyClubWRX Posts: 25,281 ClubWRX
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    Don't care what anyone thinks about the clubs in my bag, except of course Uncle Cardie.
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