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Battle of the darlings: G400 Max vs. Cobra F9

dxdgenertdxdgenert Dirtiest player in the gameAdvanced Members Posts: 1,521 ✭✭
edited March 13 in Equipment
What is the feeling on last year's darling the PING G400 Max versus this year's Cobra F9? I haven't been able to hit the F9 but am going from the F7, which I like but don't love. I picked up a used G400 Max for $212 but am curious what others, who have hit/played both, think.



Background on me: Short hitter (240-260 yards via laser/GPS measurement). Used to miss right, if i didn't close the face (slight over the top) but have been able to work on my grip and now worry about the hook. Low launch (10-11*) with high spin, due to a flat or negative angle of attack and low tee height.
PING G400 MAX w/ Alta CB
Cobra KING F7 fairway w/ Fujikura Pro 65
Cobra KING F7 hybrid w/ Fujikura Pro 75H
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  • t4t3rt4t3r Advanced Members Posts: 2,587 ✭✭
    Had each out for 1 round and the F9 was a little better, but I was really struggling to find the center in trying to knock off some winter rust. The Max was very close in distance which says a lot for its forgiveness, but directionally it was a little worse on that day actually. Will blame part of it on trying a much shorter shaft which was the only one I had with a ping adapter, and the SW was a bit off whereas the F9 was set up how I wanted after some testing.



    The sound definitely bothered me on the Max, but like a true ho I’m going to give it another shot with a (hopefully) better setup and maybe some hotmelt to quiet it down. Could’ve also been the cold temps contributing to the sound. Going to be moving on from the F9 for now but I think you can’t really go wrong with either depending on what you’re looking for.



    Cobra F9 10.5 - Project X EvenFlow T1100 White 6.5
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  • dxdgenertdxdgenert Dirtiest player in the game Advanced Members Posts: 1,521 ✭✭
    Thanks. It’s tough because I can spend whatever I want but if the Max is all that it was cracked up to be (last year), $212 vs $399 is a big difference. The last driver that I loved was the PING K15 that I had before my Cobra F7. I guess I’m hoping to recapture some of that magic. The F7 was good but short and wasn’t as forgiving as I’d hoped it would be.
    PING G400 MAX w/ Alta CB
    Cobra KING F7 fairway w/ Fujikura Pro 65
    Cobra KING F7 hybrid w/ Fujikura Pro 75H
    Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Utility 4 Iron
    Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 5-GW
    Wilson Staff FG Tour PMP Blue Tour Grind 56* and 60*
    Wilson 8802 Milled - SeeMore PTM1 - Bettinardi 2016 BB1F - Scotty Cameron Studio Design 1 - Kirk Currie Trinity
    MacGregor Bobby Grace M5K - Maxfli Tad Moore TM-2 - Zevo Toulon Z Blade 2 - numerous Spalding TP Mills
  • wchahnwchahn ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 98 ClubWRX
    My gamer is a G400 Max. Tried the F9 with the same shaft but the G400 Max was longer on average and had better dispersion. Best shots with F9 might have been longer but average was worse by 10 yds for me. Similar distance as OP.
  • OokluhOokluh Members Posts: 36 ✭✭
    F9 distance better, didn't find much benefit in G400max dispersion. May depend what kind of contact you normally get on the face, though I did feel like the F9 was pretty forgiving as well.
  • reider69reider69 Advanced Members Posts: 575 ✭✭
    dxdgenert wrote:


    Thanks. It’s tough because I can spend whatever I want but if the Max is all that it was cracked up to be (last year), $212 vs $399 is a big difference. The last driver that I loved was the PING K15 that I had before my Cobra F7. I guess I’m hoping to recapture some of that magic. The F7 was good but short and wasn’t as forgiving as I’d hoped it would be.


    Agree about F7. Not forgiving at all and shorter than the Biocell from years prior imo. I just order a ST190 and cant wait to trade Cobra in for credit.
    Cobra F7 - Matrix Ozik Black Tie M4 70 X
    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
    Callaway Xforged - 64 degrees
    Lajosi DD201 Proto
  • dpb5031dpb5031 Advanced Members Posts: 4,935 ✭✭
    I have both. The Max is by far the most forgiving and user-friendly driver I've ever used. I can reliably draw it or fade it, and even grip down on it to flight it low. Played my first bogey free round ever with the Max.



    I tried the F9 at a recent demo day. Its spun 400 less than my Max and produced more ball speed by 2-3 MPH, so I bought one. So far I've been experimenting with the F9 on course and it's definitely longer "best for best." I'm still not sure which way I'll go though because the Max is a real confidence inspiring driver that makes it very easy to get the ball in play.
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    Ping G 22 Hybrid (2 flat) - Ping Tour 80 S
    Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
    Ping Glide 2.0 - SS 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
    Taylormade Ho Toe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
    Palmer AP30R putter (circa 1960s)
    Taylormade TP5X Ball
  • DoglegRightDoglegRight Advanced Members Posts: 1,126
    edited March 13
    I would suggest looking into the F8 Plus before spending full retail on a new F9. The performance difference is much smaller than the price difference.



    However with an over the top swing and the fact that you like the Ping K15, the 400 SFT may be a better fit for you than the 400 max.



    I played a G SFT before the 400 max and really liked the built in weighting that helped close the face consistently. In fact I'm thinking of putting the G SFT back in the bag.
  • swing33swing33 Advanced Members Posts: 87 ✭✭
    dxdgenert wrote:


    What is the feeling on last year's darling the PING G400 Max versus this year's Cobra F9? I haven't been able to hit the F9 but am going from the F7, which I like but don't love. I picked up a used G400 Max for $212 but am curious what others, who have hit/played both, think.



    Background on me: Short hitter (240-260 yards via laser/GPS measurement). Used to miss right, if i didn't close the face (slight over the top) but have been able to work on my grip and now worry about the hook. Low launch (10-11*) with high spin, due to a flat or negative angle of attack and low tee height.
    That should be an interesting match up!
  • nsxguynsxguy FloridaAdvanced Members Posts: 4,861 ✭✭
    dpb5031 wrote:


    I have both. The Max is by far the most forgiving and user-friendly driver I've ever used. I can reliably draw it or fade it, and even grip down on it to flight it low. Played my first bogey free round ever with the Max.



    I tried the F9 at a recent demo day. Its spun 400 less than my Max and produced more ball speed by 2-3 MPH, so I bought one. So far I've been experimenting with the F9 on course and it's definitely longer "best for best." I'm still not sure which way I'll go though because the Max is a real confidence inspiring driver that makes it very easy to get the ball in play.




    This.



    I've tried the MAX several times and it is ridiculously easy to keep it play. i.e. it is verrrrrrry forgiving. Only clubs I've found that are as easy to keep in play are my Cally Fusion and the new Honma 747.



    For the F9 I cannot find a shot shape and dispersion I can live with. Ball speed is a touch higher with the F9 and it's about 10 yards longer (carry) than either the Max or the Fusion because of lower spin rates but even trying multiple shafts there's nothing I can do with the F9. image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />
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    Adams A12 Pro hybrids, 16*, 20*, 23*, Aldila VS Proto Stiff
    Titleist 816 AP-1 5-PW, DGS300
    Cleveland RTX-3 50*, 56*, 64*
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne
    Titleist AVX
  • dxdgenertdxdgenert Dirtiest player in the game Advanced Members Posts: 1,521 ✭✭
    edited March 14
    So it sounds like the F9 has some “extra yards” in it but is not as forgiving as the G400 Max. I’m OK with that if I feel like the Max is still longer and easier to hit than my F7.

    I’ll chalk up the F7 as a crazy deal (less than $100 new from a ****’s blowout) that didn’t work. I wanted to like it. The problem is that I just can’t get any yards out of it. Drives that are flushed go 260. Serviceable ones go 245. Bad ones go 230. I’m not a big hitter but my K15 was 10(?) years older but 10-25 yards longer. It’s possibly a shaft issue but the Max will have a similar shaft to the K15 (TFC).
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    PING G400 MAX w/ Alta CB
    Cobra KING F7 fairway w/ Fujikura Pro 65
    Cobra KING F7 hybrid w/ Fujikura Pro 75H
    Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Utility 4 Iron
    Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 5-GW
    Wilson Staff FG Tour PMP Blue Tour Grind 56* and 60*
    Wilson 8802 Milled - SeeMore PTM1 - Bettinardi 2016 BB1F - Scotty Cameron Studio Design 1 - Kirk Currie Trinity
    MacGregor Bobby Grace M5K - Maxfli Tad Moore TM-2 - Zevo Toulon Z Blade 2 - numerous Spalding TP Mills
  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Advanced Members Posts: 1,409 ✭✭
    Any thoughts from users as to fade/draw bias in the two heads?



    I've tried drivers in the past with fade bias and they don't work as well for me, already a fader 5-9 yds.

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    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged, Project X LZ 6.5 +0.5' 4-PW
    Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    Nike Engage Raw 58* S400 +0.5'
    Odyssey Dual Force 990 

  • J_BirdieJ_Birdie LOFT Issue Advanced Members Posts: 1,689 ✭✭
    TheInfidel wrote:


    Any thoughts from users as to fade/draw bias in the two heads?



    I've tried drivers in the past with fade bias and they don't work as well for me, already a fader 5-9 yds.




    Cobra CS explained to me that the F9 10.5 and 12 degree heads were neutral and "minutely" draw bias, respectively. But that the 9* head was fade bias and I could offset that by using the weight backward.
    What's in my bag:
    Srixon Z785 9.5* w/ Tensei Pro Orange 70TX 45.5"
    Cobra Fly-Z+ 3W w/ Aldila Tour Blue 75X 42.75"
    Taylormade P790 UDI 2i / Diamana D+ 92HY X 1* Up 18* loft
    Cobra Forged Tour 4-PW / Nippon NS Pro Modus 120X 1* Up
    Cobra King Black Wedges 50* & 54* (bent to 55*) Versatile Grind / Nippon NS Pro Modus 120X
    Callaway PM Grind 2 60* Nippon NS Pro Modus 120X
    Odyssey O-Works 7S Black with Superstroke GT 2.0 Pistol Grip 35"
  • ewe8523ewe8523 Advanced Members Posts: 280 ✭✭
    I am also currently playing the F7 and am interested in the F9. I like the F7 ok, but agree with the comments above. If I hit it right on the sweet spot I get 270 carry, but if I miss the sweet spot, I experience a lot of distance loss to the tune of only 220 yards sometimes. It seems to be a real feast or famine driver. I would be curious to know how much this has changed with the F9.



    I probably would like the Max, but my biggest issue is I’ve never had a chance to demo it with a shaft I like. I hate the stock Ping shaft offerings. The closest I got to trying it with something I like was a used Tensei Pro White TX; however I usually play a Stiff shaft.
  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Advanced Members Posts: 1,409 ✭✭
    J_Birdie wrote:

    TheInfidel wrote:


    Any thoughts from users as to fade/draw bias in the two heads?



    I've tried drivers in the past with fade bias and they don't work as well for me, already a fader 5-9 yds.




    Cobra CS explained to me that the F9 10.5 and 12 degree heads were neutral and "minutely" draw bias, respectively. But that the 9* head was fade bias and I could offset that by using the weight backward.




    Thanks J-Bird, just the kind of inside knowledge I was looking to get. Appreciate that.



    A slight draw bias had gives me a very straight ball flight, which I can then turn over a little too.



    Never even hit a Cobra driver before but if it knocks the numbers from the G400 I tested then I like the option to move the CG with weights.

    Titleist 915D2 10.5* Diamana Blue Board 72 X 
    Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 18*, True Temper Bi Matrix RXi X
    Adams Idea A7 22* UST V2 Hybrid X +0.5'
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged, Project X LZ 6.5 +0.5' 4-PW
    Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    Nike Engage Raw 58* S400 +0.5'
    Odyssey Dual Force 990 

  • driveandputtmachinedriveandputtmachine 4 wedges or 2 iron? That is the question! Advanced Members Posts: 1,126 ✭✭
    ewe8523 wrote:


    I am also currently playing the F7 and am interested in the F9. I like the F7 ok, but agree with the comments above. If I hit it right on the sweet spot I get 270 carry, but if I miss the sweet spot, I experience a lot of distance loss to the tune of only 220 yards sometimes. It seems to be a real feast or famine driver. I would be curious to know how much this has changed with the F9.



    I probably would like the Max, but my biggest issue is I've never had a chance to demo it with a shaft I like. I hate the stock Ping shaft offerings. The closest I got to trying it with something I like was a used Tensei Pro White TX; however I usually play a Stiff shaft.




    The Alta shaft, for me, was **** as well. The tour shaft in 70 grams, was actually pretty good and not far off from my favorite the Green proto I have used for awhile from UST/Mamiya. Which I have heard they make the Tour shafts for Ping, so that make sense for me.
    Driver - Ping 400 MAX on UST Mamiya Green Proto
    Fairway - Cobra 3-4 LTD on UST Axivcore Black
    Hybrid - TM UDI 2 iron on Nippon 130 or Ping G400 17* on UST Hybrid black
    Irons - (4-A) Taylormade 790's on KBS Tour
    Wedges - Cleveland Rotex 3.0 55*, Rotex 4.0 60* on NIppon 130
    Putter - Mannkrafted MA/66 or Taylormade Spider
    Ball - TM TP5x or Srixon Z Star XV
  • driveandputtmachinedriveandputtmachine 4 wedges or 2 iron? That is the question! Advanced Members Posts: 1,126 ✭✭
    I had a F8+ before the 400 Max, and while good, I obviously chose the Max. I have tested the F9 and it is good as well, but not as forgiving. Average drives the 400 max is longer, best drives the F9 wins out, but I need forgiveness more than I need a few yards.
    Driver - Ping 400 MAX on UST Mamiya Green Proto
    Fairway - Cobra 3-4 LTD on UST Axivcore Black
    Hybrid - TM UDI 2 iron on Nippon 130 or Ping G400 17* on UST Hybrid black
    Irons - (4-A) Taylormade 790's on KBS Tour
    Wedges - Cleveland Rotex 3.0 55*, Rotex 4.0 60* on NIppon 130
    Putter - Mannkrafted MA/66 or Taylormade Spider
    Ball - TM TP5x or Srixon Z Star XV
  • J_BirdieJ_Birdie LOFT Issue Advanced Members Posts: 1,689 ✭✭
    edited March 14
    TheInfidel wrote:

    J_Birdie wrote:

    TheInfidel wrote:


    Any thoughts from users as to fade/draw bias in the two heads?



    I've tried drivers in the past with fade bias and they don't work as well for me, already a fader 5-9 yds.




    Cobra CS explained to me that the F9 10.5 and 12 degree heads were neutral and "minutely" draw bias, respectively. But that the 9* head was fade bias and I could offset that by using the weight backward.




    Thanks J-Bird, just the kind of inside knowledge I was looking to get. Appreciate that.



    A slight draw bias had gives me a very straight ball flight, which I can then turn over a little too.



    Never even hit a Cobra driver before but if it knocks the numbers from the G400 I tested then I like the option to move the CG with weights.




    You can also use draw settings to increase the lie angle by 1.5 degree which should help a little with a left bias, but the weight setting back will help more.
    What's in my bag:
    Srixon Z785 9.5* w/ Tensei Pro Orange 70TX 45.5"
    Cobra Fly-Z+ 3W w/ Aldila Tour Blue 75X 42.75"
    Taylormade P790 UDI 2i / Diamana D+ 92HY X 1* Up 18* loft
    Cobra Forged Tour 4-PW / Nippon NS Pro Modus 120X 1* Up
    Cobra King Black Wedges 50* & 54* (bent to 55*) Versatile Grind / Nippon NS Pro Modus 120X
    Callaway PM Grind 2 60* Nippon NS Pro Modus 120X
    Odyssey O-Works 7S Black with Superstroke GT 2.0 Pistol Grip 35"
  • VNutzVNutz Advanced Members Posts: 5,996 ✭✭
    edited March 14
    dxdgenert wrote:


    So it sounds like the F9 has some "extra yards" in it but is not as forgiving as the G400 Max. I'm OK with that if I feel like the Max is still longer and easier to hit than my F7.






    This is kind of what I'm feeling right now. I played the Max last season and have an F9 at the moment. The Max was one of the easiest to hit and launch drivers I've hit in a long time, and incredibly forgiving, while not being high spin for me. If you're a guy that needs launch and spins it low, it's the club for you. The F9 I haven't gotten onto the course to measure yet, and all my testing has been done with the weight forward so kind of a different animal, but for me thus far it's got a more powerful, penetrating flight, even in the 10.5 head I have. I tend to hit a lower ball so more loft is helpful for me. The Max wanted to get up into the air, flatten out and turn over a bit, where the F9 is more of a lower running type of tee shot, for me. The 400Max kills it in forgiveness, that club felt like anywhere on the face was hot, where the F9 in my testing doesn't have the same upper toe hot spot and feel. YMMV, different for everybody.
  • ewe8523ewe8523 Advanced Members Posts: 280 ✭✭

    ewe8523 wrote:


    I am also currently playing the F7 and am interested in the F9. I like the F7 ok, but agree with the comments above. If I hit it right on the sweet spot I get 270 carry, but if I miss the sweet spot, I experience a lot of distance loss to the tune of only 220 yards sometimes. It seems to be a real feast or famine driver. I would be curious to know how much this has changed with the F9.



    I probably would like the Max, but my biggest issue is I've never had a chance to demo it with a shaft I like. I hate the stock Ping shaft offerings. The closest I got to trying it with something I like was a used Tensei Pro White TX; however I usually play a Stiff shaft.




    The Alta shaft, for me, was **** as well. The tour shaft in 70 grams, was actually pretty good and not far off from my favorite the Green proto I have used for awhile from UST/Mamiya. Which I have heard they make the Tour shafts for Ping, so that make sense for me.




    I also play a 44 inch shaft so the stock Ping shafts feel really long to me and wobbly. I’m hoping I can find a G400 Max to test at some point with a shaft in it more similar to my gamer - Diamana Thump.
  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalAdvanced Members Posts: 856 ✭✭
    For years now I’ve had trouble understanding why so many pros play 43.5” to 44.25” drivers, yet amateurs who cannot remotely find the center nearly as often, insist on playing 44.5” to 45.5” drivers.



    2019 may just be the best crop of drivers and fairways in history. Great clubs from most makers. But, we need to recognize that these drivers are often very different even within the same make and type.



    For example, the F9 9.0 & 10.5 drivers are very different machines meant for very different swings. Throw in the numerous shaft variables and the adjustability capability and it’s possible that while you might not like any of them, it’s also possible that simply thinking through these variables and trying a few creative solutions might just yield an optimum combo. I’m betting the same is true for other makes as well. Merely trying one loft and one or two shafts on any of these clubs likely won’t yield much meaningful perspective one way or the other.



    I wound up with 44.25 and D5 swingweight and the ATMOS TS Blue (black) 6S and surprisingly like this combo much more than my normal DI 6 or even my old F7M2 shafts. Anyway, just food for thought.
    Cobra King F9 Tour Length Speedback 10.5 ATMOS TS Blue 6S 44.25” D5 14g/6g wts
    Rogue 3W, 5W, 7W HZRDUS Yellow 70 S D3
    Miura CB57 4-PW KBS Tour Black Pearl S D5-D7
    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)

    Backup/travel: '18 M3 440, M1/M2 FW's, MP-64's and Vokey WedgeWorks 52F, 56V & 60V
  • James ColeJames Cole Members Posts: 59 ✭✭
    SwingBlade



    What do you mean by 9.0 and 10.5 F9s being very different? Is there a difference besides loft?
  • jadedennilljadedennill Advanced Members Posts: 206 ✭✭
    SwingBlade wrote:


    For years now I’ve had trouble understanding why so many pros play 43.5” to 44.25” drivers, yet amateurs who cannot remotely find the center nearly as often, insist on playing 44.5” to 45.5” drivers.



    2019 may just be the best crop of drivers and fairways in history. Great clubs from most makers. But, we need to recognize that these drivers are often very different even within the same make and type.



    For example, the F9 9.0 & 10.5 drivers are very different machines meant for very different swings. Throw in the numerous shaft variables and the adjustability capability and it’s possible that while you might not like any of them, it’s also possible that simply thinking through these variables and trying a few creative solutions might just yield an optimum combo. I’m betting the same is true for other makes as well. Merely trying one loft and one or two shafts on any of these clubs likely won’t yield much meaningful perspective one way or the other.



    I wound up with 44.25 and D5 swingweight and the ATMOS TS Blue (black) 6S and surprisingly like this combo much more than my normal DI 6 or even my old F7M2 shafts. Anyway, just food for thought.


    Not to get off topic, but I'd be curious to know of more than a few, if any pros are playing a 43.5" driver. Maybe not 45.5"+ but they're not <44".
  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHAdvanced Members Posts: 3,923 ✭✭

    SwingBlade wrote:


    For years now I’ve had trouble understanding why so many pros play 43.5” to 44.25” drivers, yet amateurs who cannot remotely find the center nearly as often, insist on playing 44.5” to 45.5” drivers.



    2019 may just be the best crop of drivers and fairways in history. Great clubs from most makers. But, we need to recognize that these drivers are often very different even within the same make and type.



    For example, the F9 9.0 & 10.5 drivers are very different machines meant for very different swings. Throw in the numerous shaft variables and the adjustability capability and it’s possible that while you might not like any of them, it’s also possible that simply thinking through these variables and trying a few creative solutions might just yield an optimum combo. I’m betting the same is true for other makes as well. Merely trying one loft and one or two shafts on any of these clubs likely won’t yield much meaningful perspective one way or the other.



    I wound up with 44.25 and D5 swingweight and the ATMOS TS Blue (black) 6S and surprisingly like this combo much more than my normal DI 6 or even my old F7M2 shafts. Anyway, just food for thought.


    Not to get off topic, but I'd be curious to know of more than a few, if any pros are playing a 43.5" driver. Maybe not 45.5"+ but they're not <44".




    I have no data to back me up but when I joined this site years ago it seemed Avg Tour driver was around 44.75. Now it seems to be creeping up to around 45-45.25” when I look at the WITB specs in golf mags.

    Driver: Ping Rhapsody 16*
    FW: Ping G400 SFT 5w
    Hybrids: Exotics XRail 23*/26*
    Irons: Ping G700 6-UW
    Wedges: Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 56*/60* - Callaway Sure Out 64*
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne H


  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,927 ✭✭
    dpb5031 wrote:


    I have both. The Max is by far the most forgiving and user-friendly driver I've ever used. I can reliably draw it or fade it, and even grip down on it to flight it low. Played my first bogey free round ever with the Max.



    I tried the F9 at a recent demo day. Its spun 400 less than my Max and produced more ball speed by 2-3 MPH, so I bought one. So far I've been experimenting with the F9 on course and it's definitely longer "best for best." I'm still not sure which way I'll go though because the Max is a real confidence inspiring driver that makes it very easy to get the ball in play.




    Then you NEED to try the Epic Flash sub zero....lol
  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Advanced Members Posts: 6,927 ✭✭
    James Cole wrote:


    SwingBlade



    What do you mean by 9.0 and 10.5 F9s being very different? Is there a difference besides loft?




    Internal CG placement for strike per ball speed....somehow that add loft on lower strikes for higher lofts due to the needs of normal users...whereas the 9 reduces that launch and spin primarily based on higher club head speed guys using that loft....or something like that....
  • t4t3rt4t3r Advanced Members Posts: 2,587 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    I guess Rickie is using the 10.5 since he’s a normal Joe?



    I see in the instruction guide for F9 where it shows some differences between heads, had never seen those before. Still seems mostly loft and lie angle related to me based on what they say (launch, trajectory, and swing speed).



    Has Cobra put out anything else that goes into further depth?
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    Callaway Alpha 816 14* - Diamana D+ 70x
    Titleist 913H 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus X
    Adams Tour Issue MB2 4-PW - KBS C-Taper 120
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    Titleist Vokey SM6 Raw 56.08M
    Callaway MD4 Raw 60.08C
    Scotty Cameron Milspec 350g
  • Sparky14Sparky14 Advanced Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    I'm an F8 player. But I had paypal bucks sitting around, and I found a good deal on the G400Max with the same shaft I have in the F8, so I jumped on it. I did not find it the G400Max to be an improvement over the F8, and the Max sound was not nearly as nice. So, I sold the Max, and then I had paypal bucks again. Which I why I picked up an F9 this morning.



    What should I try after I sell the F9 and have paypal bucks again?
  • bnb9433bnb9433 Advanced Members Posts: 206 ✭✭
    Sparky14 wrote:


    I'm an F8 player. But I had paypal bucks sitting around, and I found a good deal on the G400Max with the same shaft I have in the F8, so I jumped on it. I did not find it the G400Max to be an improvement over the F8, and the Max sound was not nearly as nice. So, I sold the Max, and then I had paypal bucks again. Which I why I picked up an F9 this morning.



    What should I try after I sell the F9 and have paypal bucks again?




    F10?



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  • woods991woods991 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,297 ClubWRX
    I played the MAx all year and now a F9 and the F9 sounds better and is longer, the MAX knock was the lack of distance and the F9 makes up for it. I feel they are similar in forgivness the reason I switched is the F9 sounds/feels better and is longer with true shot shaping. F9 is the Ping MAX of last year.
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  • dxdgenertdxdgenert Dirtiest player in the game Advanced Members Posts: 1,521 ✭✭
    woods991 wrote:


    F9 is the Ping MAX of last year.


    Exactly, that’s why I’m interested. Everyone was gushing over the Max last year and this year, it’s all F9.
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  • WoodersonWooderson Advanced Members Posts: 1,965 ✭✭
    I bought a max last year and a f9 this year. From the first hit (bought without hitting) I knew I loved the max. For the last 12 months I have hit 48% of my fairways over 40 rounds. According to ghin the average for my handicap is 29%. That's a significant difference.



    Unfortunately, I was tempted to try to gain some distance so I got sucked into buying this year's darling without ever hitting it. The f9 is a great looking, feeling, and sounding head. In the two rounds that I used it and the max it was no longer and I didn't hit as many fairways with the f9 as the max. The max is firmly back in the bag. I will tinker with the f9 some more though. The sound is nice enough to keep trying.



    The f9 is a peculiar head. Low strikes feel and perform really well. High strikes feel extremely dead and perform ok. If I catch the max high toe it sounds and goes like a cannon. YMMV.
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  • stoneydukesstoneydukes ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 284 ClubWRX
    I have played just about everything over the past 2 years. M3, Epic, Rogue, and currently game a 9 deg G400 (standard 455cc version). Swing speed between 95-100mph with a pretty smooth transition.



    I really like the look of the matte black head and the sound of the G400. I tried the Max indoors on a monitor and it was a little more spinny and not as appealing to my eye as the G400. Trying to find the perfect match, I've tried the Ping Tour 65S, Fujikura Pro 2.0 5S, Ping Tour 80R, and the Kuro Kage XT60S in the G.



    Have a F9 with HZRDUS Smoke arriving early next week and I'm really excited to see if it will knock the G400 out of the bag. I bought a 10.5 F9. My miss is low in the face but I'm still fighting a Colorado winter swing. Looking forward to it warming up a bit and seeing if the F9 hype works for me.
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  • caniac6caniac6 Advanced Members Posts: 2,613 ✭✭
    I have a 400 Max, and I really like it. Yesterday I played with my old G20, and was hitting it well past the 400 Max.
  • woods991woods991 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,297 ClubWRX
    caniac6 wrote:


    I have a 400 Max, and I really like it. Yesterday I played with my old G20, and was hitting it well past the 400 Max.


    Exactly the max just isn’t long otherwise it would still be in the bag. To each their own but the f9 is simply longer with better feel and sound. The whole accuracy thing I don’t get a bad swing is a bad swing either way your in trouble. I was and am I big fan of the max like I said in a earlier post the f9 is last years max with better attributes.
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    Titleist 718 Ap2 5~PW Steelfiber i80
    Callaway Tour Issue Hot Melt Apex 3 hybrid KK Silver 80
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    Evnroll er9 Superstroke ultra slim 1.0p 33”
  • kyleluteskylelutes Members Posts: 72 ✭✭
    I've always been a cobra guy and went to ping drivers when the g30 came out. I've stayed with them and now have a g400 max. I love it, but keep reading about the f9. I kinda hate to give it a try.
  • t4t3rt4t3r Advanced Members Posts: 2,587 ✭✭
    woods991 wrote:

    caniac6 wrote:


    I have a 400 Max, and I really like it. Yesterday I played with my old G20, and was hitting it well past the 400 Max.


    Exactly the max just isn’t long otherwise it would still be in the bag. To each their own but the f9 is simply longer with better feel and sound. The whole accuracy thing I don’t get a bad swing is a bad swing either way your in trouble. I was and am I big fan of the max like I said in a earlier post the f9 is last years max with better attributes.




    Max was just as long as my F9, shorter shaft in the Max and was playing at a less ideal SW than the F9. Will definitely agree on the sound though.



    At the end of the day it's all about the person swinging it and what works for one person may not necessarily work for another. Part of the fun of golf (for me) is trying out all the new gear and maximizing what works!
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  • 10of1410of14 Advanced Members Posts: 1,470
    You certainly can't argue with Ping MAX's forgiveness, but unlike many commenting here, I found the F9 easy to hit too and for me, it was 10+ yards longer on average. I have always played and loved Ping's hybrids, but for some reason, find their drivers to be average length for me and not a huge fan of the feel. What I will say is that I have many friends and a couple of brother's that swear by their Ping drivers solely for the forgiveness. Good luck!
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    Hybrids: Ping G400 w/Alta CB 73 @17*
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  • woods991woods991 ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 2,297 ClubWRX
    10of14 wrote:


    You certainly can't argue with Ping MAX's forgiveness, but unlike many commenting here, I found the F9 easy to hit too and for me, it was 10+ yards longer on average. I have always played and loved Ping's hybrids, but for some reason, find their drivers to be average length for me and not a huge fan of the feel. What I will say is that I have many friends and a couple of brother's that swear by their Ping drivers solely for the forgiveness. Good luck!


    Oh I agree the f9 is as easy to hit as any other drivers made today. It is longer I have tested it over and over and agreed the max is a great driver but for whatever reason the switch to the f9 was a good one for me.
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  • 596596 Lakeland, FLAdvanced Members Posts: 3,581 ✭✭


    I would suggest looking into the F8 Plus before spending full retail on a new F9. The performance difference is much smaller than the price difference.



    However with an over the top swing and the fact that you like the Ping K15, the 400 SFT may be a better fit for you than the 400 max.



    I played a G SFT before the 400 max and really liked the built in weighting that helped close the face consistently. In fact I'm thinking of putting the G SFT back in the bag.




    I played the K15s for years when they came out in 2010. I'm still playing one in my walking bag. I tried the Ping G SFT and thought it was just OK compared to the K15. I then bought the Ping G Max. Its longer then the G and the K15. But I wanted a Max with the SFT......So I added lead tape to the rear and inside heal of the MAX. Now it swings just like a K15 but is a lot longer and more forgiving. The right side of the course is no longer in play.
  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHAdvanced Members Posts: 3,923 ✭✭
    596 wrote:



    I would suggest looking into the F8 Plus before spending full retail on a new F9. The performance difference is much smaller than the price difference.



    However with an over the top swing and the fact that you like the Ping K15, the 400 SFT may be a better fit for you than the 400 max.



    I played a G SFT before the 400 max and really liked the built in weighting that helped close the face consistently. In fact I'm thinking of putting the G SFT back in the bag.




    I played the K15s for years when they came out in 2010. I'm still playing one in my walking bag. I tried the Ping G SFT and thought it was just OK compared to the K15. I then bought the Ping G Max. Its longer then the G and the K15. But I wanted a Max with the SFT......So I added lead tape to the rear and inside heal of the MAX. Now it swings just like a K15 but is a lot longer and more forgiving. The right side of the course is no longer in play.




    How many grams of tape did you add ?

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  • 596596 Lakeland, FLAdvanced Members Posts: 3,581 ✭✭
    erock9174 wrote:

    596 wrote:



    I would suggest looking into the F8 Plus before spending full retail on a new F9. The performance difference is much smaller than the price difference.



    However with an over the top swing and the fact that you like the Ping K15, the 400 SFT may be a better fit for you than the 400 max.



    I played a G SFT before the 400 max and really liked the built in weighting that helped close the face consistently. In fact I'm thinking of putting the G SFT back in the bag.




    I played the K15s for years when they came out in 2010. I'm still playing one in my walking bag. I tried the Ping G SFT and thought it was just OK compared to the K15. I then bought the Ping G Max. Its longer then the G and the K15. But I wanted a Max with the SFT......So I added lead tape to the rear and inside heal of the MAX. Now it swings just like a K15 but is a lot longer and more forgiving. The right side of the course is no longer in play.




    How many grams of tape did you add ?




    7.5 grams. I used 3, 2.5 gram, pieces stacked, to keep them back and heal side as much as I could. I didn't want long pieces to spread the weight where I didn't want it. It's been 2 months since I added them. I may add another 2.5 gram strip to bring the total to 10 grams. It may make it even easier to turn over. I hit 1 tee shot into the right rough per round image/dntknw.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dntknw:' />
  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalAdvanced Members Posts: 856 ✭✭

    SwingBlade wrote:


    For years now I’ve had trouble understanding why so many pros play 43.5” to 44.25” drivers, yet amateurs who cannot remotely find the center nearly as often, insist on playing 44.5” to 45.5” drivers.



    2019 may just be the best crop of drivers and fairways in history. Great clubs from most makers. But, we need to recognize that these drivers are often very different even within the same make and type.



    For example, the F9 9.0 &amp; 10.5 drivers are very different machines meant for very different swings. Throw in the numerous shaft variables and the adjustability capability and it’s possible that while you might not like any of them, it’s also possible that simply thinking through these variables and trying a few creative solutions might just yield an optimum combo. I’m betting the same is true for other makes as well. Merely trying one loft and one or two shafts on any of these clubs likely won’t yield much meaningful perspective one way or the other.



    I wound up with 44.25 and D5 swingweight and the ATMOS TS Blue (black) 6S and surprisingly like this combo much more than my normal DI 6 or even my old F7M2 shafts. Anyway, just food for thought.


    Not to get off topic, but I'd be curious to know of more than a few, if any pros are playing a 43.5" driver. Maybe not 45.5"+ but they're not <44".




    No real need to debate this issue. I simply said “so many pros between 43.5 & 44.25.” The average tour player is at 44.5, not the 45-45.5 that most amateurs rather foolishly play. Rickie is at 43.5 and Tiger was at 43.5 in his early Tour years. No idea what Tiger plays now. My only point was that if many of the players who are the absolute best at making center contact play 44.5 on average, and a good number of them play at less than 44.5, why in the world are mere mortal golfers playing at anything above 44.5 and not closer to 43.5? Missing dead center by 1/8” to 1/4” cost more yardage on average than is gained by hitting a 45”+ driver and missing by 1/4” to 1/2”.
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    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)

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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Advanced Members Posts: 4,935 ✭✭
    Agree with above that sweet spot contact trumps a couple of extra MPH of speed.



    Seems sensible/logical that a higher hc player SHOULD hit the sweetspot more regularly with a shorter driver, but is there any proof that this is the case?



    BTW, my driver is 45.25 but i often grip down an inch and prefer this length
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  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalAdvanced Members Posts: 856 ✭✭
    edited March 17
    t4t3r wrote:


    I guess Rickie is using the 10.5 since he’s a normal Joe?



    I see in the instruction guide for F9 where it shows some differences between heads, had never seen those before. Still seems mostly loft and lie angle related to me based on what they say (launch, trajectory, and swing speed).



    Has Cobra put out anything else that goes into further depth?




    I’ll try to answer the questions about design differences between the 9.0, 10.5, and 12 F9 heads. Not pretending to be an expert on these issues. These are explanations that Cobra alludes to on their F9 promo pages. Cobra has also given enhanced explanations of these issues to industry reviewers.



    First, Cobra is no longer offering a “Tour” or “+” model driver. The F9 9.0 head supersedes those tour and + models. It is the head specifically optimized for high speed players looking for very low spin. This is partly accomplished by the 9.0 head having a slightlly more forward CG and perhaps a slightly higher or lower CG. The F9 9.0 should achieve 500 RPM lower spin rates than the F8+ heads.



    The 10.5 and 12 heads are designed to provide the more normal spin rates and launch angles and higher MOI that most of us more normal golfers require or desire.



    The F9 design features of “Dual Roll Radii” and E9 technology are specifically optimized for each of the 3 driver heads. This is especially true of the lower face radii design.



    The 9.0 lower face area, mid to bottom, will produce lower launch and less spin than the lower face area of the 10.5 which is designed to help with higher launch angles. Similarly, the lower face area of the 12 head is optimized for even higher launch assistance.



    The mid to top areas of each head are are apparently more traditionally optimized. But again, all three heads are specifically optimized beyond mere loft angle for their target audience of golfers.



    So, it appears that the 9.0 is for high speed bombers, the 12 is for lower speed players seeking max MOI and forgiveness, and the 10.5 is for the rest of us. I forestalled my ego needs and went with the 10.5 head and shorter 44.25 Tour Length F9. So far, it seems to have been a very smart decision for my game. If I want to play with more or less spin and more or less MOI, I can always move the heavy weight forward and play with the other shaft adjustability feature.
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    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
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  • stoneydukesstoneydukes ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 284 ClubWRX
    SwingBlade wrote:

    t4t3r wrote:


    I guess Rickie is using the 10.5 since he's a normal Joe?



    I see in the instruction guide for F9 where it shows some differences between heads, had never seen those before. Still seems mostly loft and lie angle related to me based on what they say (launch, trajectory, and swing speed).



    Has Cobra put out anything else that goes into further depth?




    I'll try to answer the questions about design differences between the 9.0, 10.5, and 12 F9 heads. Not pretending to be an expert on these issues. These are explanations that Cobra alludes to on their F9 promo pages. Cobra has also given enhanced explanations of these issues to industry reviewers.



    First, Cobra is no longer offering a "Tour" or "+" model driver. The F9 9.0 head supersedes those tour and + models. It is the head specifically optimized for high speed players looking for very low spin. This is partly accomplished by the 9.0 head having a slightlly more forward CG and perhaps a slightly higher or lower CG. The F9 9.0 should achieve 500 RPM lower spin rates than the F8+ heads.



    The 10.5 and 12 heads are designed to provide the more normal spin rates and launch angles and higher MOI that most of us more normal golfers require or desire.



    The F9 design features of "Dual Roll Radii" and E9 technology are specifically optimized for each of the 3 driver heads. This is especially true of the lower face radii design.



    The 9.0 lower face area, mid to bottom, will produce lower launch and less spin than the lower face area of the 10.5 which is designed to help with higher launch angles. Similarly, the lower face area of the 12 head is optimized for even higher launch assistance.



    The mid to top areas of each head are are apparently more traditionally optimized. But again, all three heads are specifically optimized beyond mere loft angle for their target audience of golfers.



    So, it appears that the 9.0 is for high speed bombers, the 12 is for lower speed players seeking max MOI and forgiveness, and the 10.5 is for the rest of us. I forestalled my ego needs and went with the 10.5 head and shorter 44.25 Tour Length F9. So far, it seems to have been a very smart decision for my game. If I want to play with more or less spin and more or less MOI, I can always move the heavy weight forward and play with the other shaft adjustability feature.




    Did your tour length F9 come at D5 or did you get a different weigh combo to get there?



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  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalAdvanced Members Posts: 856 ✭✭


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    Did your tour length F9 come at D5 or did you get a different weigh combo to get there?



    Thanks,




    I believe the standard F9 comes with 14g & 2g weights. My Tour Length F9 came with 14g & 6g weights to offset the shorter 44.25 equipped with a standard mid size grip, not the Cobra grip that is 1/4” longer for data app use. The SW came in at D5. I usually play D4 so D 5 was actually great for me. The Cobra website merely says that with Tour Length they will use special weights to keep the SW in the standard range. You can request any number of non-standard lengths and a specific swingweight if preferred.
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    Miura CB57 4-PW KBS Tour Black Pearl S D5-D7
    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)

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  • mdhacker123mdhacker123 Advanced Members Posts: 687 ✭✭
    i owned and gamed the g400 max and i had the opportunity to hit the f9 both indoors, outdoors and on trackman and flight scope.



    g400 max was 9 deg stiff witht he alta 55 g stiff: extremely forgiving driver but not the longest and definitely not the lowest spinning. at times if i caught it high toeish and got that nic ehigh draw kinuckler i would hit some bombs with massive runouts but mostly this club stayed in play. however on several occasions drivers that i though i just smashed, when i got up to them the distance was shorter then what i expected.



    F9: at first i didnt like this club but i had trouble getting a shaft on it that i liked. once that was accomplished this driver definitely outperformed the g400 max distance wise. also even with the weight in the front the forgiveness was not as good as the max but it wasnt too far off.



    i think if you are a player who really struggles off the tee then stick to the max. however if you are somewhat consistent with swinging our driver you will get more out of the f9
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  • James ColeJames Cole Members Posts: 59 ✭✭
    What loft of F9 did you try?
  • mdhacker123mdhacker123 Advanced Members Posts: 687 ✭✭
    it was a 10.5 head and had it lofted down -1 and ballflight was high so we also tried -1.5
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  • blt2280blt2280 Advanced Members Posts: 406 ✭✭
    What shaft ???
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