Will the college admissions scam hit the Tour PLAYERS?

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  • LlortamaiseyLlortamaisey  6082WRX Points: 434Members Posts: 6,082 Titanium Tees
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    I know my dad would always tell me it would have been cheaper to donate money to my college to get me on the golf team instead of what junior golf cost. Thankfully he didn’t know Mr. Singer.
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    This doesn’t look great for Phil.
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    Maybe Choo got caught up in it, haven't heard from him since his Molinari prediction.............. image/scare2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':scare2:' />
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    Wouldn't surprise me



    Would be entertaining to see if a fella caught in the Jupiter sting gets nabbed in this as well
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 29336WRX Points: 2,242Handicap: 0.0Members Posts: 29,336 Titanium Tees
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    I suppose it's possible or even likely Phil did nothing wrong and is getting ahead of this. Because it could have come out eventually that he used him and if he hadn't denounced this first it would maybe be a presumed guilty thing
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  • MaximilianMaximilian  1488WRX Points: 278Members Posts: 1,488 Platinum Tees
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    Of course it’s going to come up, otherwise he would never write this publicly. Had he never been accused of insider trading, there would probably be a larger percentage of people believing him too.
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    I’m stumped about one thing. Aunt Becky purportedly gave somebody $500,000 to get her kid into USC. Wouldn’t that be enough of a donation paid directly to USC to make it all work?



    Phil is getting out ahead of this thing and offensive PR is usually done for a reason.



    I see this deal getting bigger and ensnaring a lot more people.



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  • tatertottatertot  4609WRX Points: 920Members Posts: 4,609 Titanium Tees
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    Phil used it for his 3 kids ... said he had no idea any of this was going on and colleges are "fighting" for his kids.



    Who knows ... if they're that in demand, why pay for somebody to help.



    He said it was to cut through the confusion. Money corrupts, but we'll probably never know. Phil seems like the kind of guy that doesn't mind cutting a few corners.
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    Phil's kid went to a fancy private school that already offered college admission services.



    Why else would he be involved with these folks?
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    I’m stumped about one thing. Aunt Becky purportedly gave somebody $500,000 to get her kid into USC. Wouldn’t that be enough of a donation paid directly to USC to make it all work?



    Phil is getting out ahead of this thing and offensive PR is usually done for a reason.



    I see this deal getting bigger and ensnaring a lot more people.




    It was $500K for two kids. The cost to go to USC (counting books, living expenses and tuition) is estimated at $70,000/year. So, they didn't pony up enough to USC directly and therefore had to bribe the crew coach.
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank  14980WRX Points: 994ClubWRX Posts: 14,980 ClubWRX
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    I want to know who at the university is collecting all that money? I assume that’s the person in a boatload of trouble.
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  • lumberman2462lumberman2462  5341WRX Points: 200Handicap: ?Members Posts: 5,341 Titanium Tees
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    wildcatden wrote:



    I’m stumped about one thing. Aunt Becky purportedly gave somebody $500,000 to get her kid into USC. Wouldn’t that be enough of a donation paid directly to USC to make it all work?



    Phil is getting out ahead of this thing and offensive PR is usually done for a reason.



    I see this deal getting bigger and ensnaring a lot more people.




    It was $500K for two kids. The cost to go to USC (counting books, living expenses and tuition) is estimated at $70,000/year. So, they didn't pony up enough to USC directly and therefore had to bribe the crew coach.




    Or they had to bribe the coach because their test scores weren’t good enough for general admission but were high enough for the athlete exemption.
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    BottleCap wrote:


    Phil's kid went to a fancy private school that already offered college admission services.



    Why else would he be involved with these folks?




    These guys were above and beyond ... they even had a letter of recommendation from the Mickelsons on their website.


    wildcatden wrote:



    I’m stumped about one thing. Aunt Becky purportedly gave somebody $500,000 to get her kid into USC. Wouldn’t that be enough of a donation paid directly to USC to make it all work?



    Phil is getting out ahead of this thing and offensive PR is usually done for a reason.



    I see this deal getting bigger and ensnaring a lot more people.




    It was $500K for two kids. The cost to go to USC (counting books, living expenses and tuition) is estimated at $70,000/year. So, they didn't pony up enough to USC directly and therefore had to bribe the crew coach.




    Or they had to bribe the coach because their test scores weren’t good enough for general admission but were high enough for the athlete exemption.




    Or somebody took the tests for them.
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    tatertot wrote:

    BottleCap wrote:


    Phil's kid went to a fancy private school that already offered college admission services.



    Why else would he be involved with these folks?




    These guys were above and beyond ... they even had a letter of recommendation from the Mickelsons on their website.




    Did this firm actually do any legitimate things? I don't know a ton about them, were they like a coaching agency for exams?



    Or were they just like some big bribery ring?
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank  14980WRX Points: 994ClubWRX Posts: 14,980 ClubWRX
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    Did you hear the snippet of interview with Aunt Becky’s daughter. Flat out said she doesn’t want to study, just party.



    Wish I was rhe admissions offer, it would put have taken so much cash for Aunt Becky to get what she wanted!��❤️
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  • tatertottatertot  4609WRX Points: 920Members Posts: 4,609 Titanium Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:

    tatertot wrote:

    BottleCap wrote:


    Phil's kid went to a fancy private school that already offered college admission services.



    Why else would he be involved with these folks?




    These guys were above and beyond ... they even had a letter of recommendation from the Mickelsons on their website.




    Did this firm actually do any legitimate things? I don't know a ton about them, were they like a coaching agency for exams?



    Or were they just like some big bribery ring?




    According to Phil, they coach the kids for the tests and help parents through the college selection process.



    Phil said his kids get outstanding grades, test well, have awesome extracurriculars, have great "world views" (don't know what that means) and Universities were competing for them ... the only reason he used the agency was to cut through the "confusion" of choosing the right college.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Iowa 20413WRX Points: 4,333ClubWRX Posts: 20,413 ClubWRX
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    Gee, I just don't know - was Willie Park, Jr. really Jack the Ripper?

    Maximilian wrote:


    This doesn't look great for Phil.




    Really? Because he wasn't involved? Oh boy.
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    I want to know who at the university is collecting all that money? I assume that’s the person in a boatload of trouble.




    I don't think any university admissions people were named in the indictment.



    Collegiate coaches were, however.
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    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Gee, I just don't know - was Willie Park, Jr. really Jack the Ripper?


    Maximilian wrote:


    This doesn't look great for Phil.




    Really? Because he wasn't involved? Oh boy.




    Not sure what you mean? No, it doesn’t look good for him. I’m not saying he didn’t know what this guy was up to if that’s what you think.
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    nohny noke wrote:



    I want to know who at the university is collecting all that money? I assume that’s the person in a boatload of trouble.




    I don't think any university admissions people were named in the indictment.



    Collegiate coaches were, however.




    Were Loughlin’s kids involved in athletics?
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    nohny noke wrote:



    I want to know who at the university is collecting all that money? I assume that’s the person in a boatload of trouble.




    I don't think any university admissions people were named in the indictment.



    Collegiate coaches were, however.




    Were Loughlin’s kids involved in athletics?




    They also helped kids raise their test scores by bribing proctors.



    I didn't see any details yet of what the proctors did for the money.
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    Why are Phil and Amy so confused about the college admissions process?



    Shouldn't it be easier for the person with loads of money to choose where to send their kids to university? The Mickelsons can afford any college on the planet. There are no bad options for people like that.



    What bad luck for them that they just happened to choose the tutoring company named in the biggest ever collegiate admissions scandal.
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    Maximilian wrote:


    This doesn’t look great for Phil.




    Disagree. He knows that having used the company will mean his name gets dragged into this, regardless of whether his kids bought special treatment or they just used them to organize the admissions process. Why not get out ahead of the story?



    The Feds are perp walking any big name they can find in this thing. If the Mickelson’s name was implicated in any kind of nefarious way, you’d have already heard about it.
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    Maximilian wrote:


    This doesn’t look great for Phil.




    Disagree. He knows that having used the company will mean his name gets dragged into this, regardless of whether his kids bought special treatment or they just used them to organize the admissions process. Why not get out ahead of the story?



    The Feds are perp walking any big name they can find in this thing. If the Mickelson’s name was implicated in any kind of nefarious way, you’d have already heard about it.




    Actually, we totally agree.



    I’m not sure what everyone is reading into my comment saying that it doesn’t look good for him? Do you people think this is positive PR for him? Lol
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    nohny noke wrote:


    Why are Phil and Amy so confused about the college admissions process?



    Shouldn't it be easier for the person with loads of money to choose where to send their kids to university? The Mickelsons can afford any college on the planet. There are no bad options for people like that.



    What bad luck for them that they just happened to choose the tutoring company named in the biggest ever collegiate admissions scandal.




    Because it’s a confusing process? Apply to half a dozen colleges, each with a different application process, requirements and cut-off dates and it’s a lot more work than you’d think.



    I used a service when I was applying to law schools. Help with LSAT prep, help with tailoring essays to specific schools, putting together and submitting app packages. It was a big help and took a lot of stress off of me. Worth every penny.
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    Maximilian wrote:


    Maximilian wrote:


    This doesn't look great for Phil.




    Disagree. He knows that having used the company will mean his name gets dragged into this, regardless of whether his kids bought special treatment or they just used them to organize the admissions process. Why not get out ahead of the story?



    The Feds are perp walking any big name they can find in this thing. If the Mickelson's name was implicated in any kind of nefarious way, you'd have already heard about it.




    Actually, we totally agree.



    I'm not sure what everyone is reading into my comment saying that it doesn't look good for him? Do you people think this is positive PR for him? Lol




    Maybe we can all agree that



    "this is not a great look for Phil"



    I think people are misreading your original statement to mean that Phil is in trouble; doesn't look good for him.
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    Phil getting ahead of this is a smart thing to do. I wonder if Kuchar is as well.......no wait he's too cheap image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' /> With that said, whoever is guilty I hope they get a nice stint in jail. The odds are already stacked against the majority of kids in this country and now this confirmation of a rigged system just proves what most already knew. I love that these things are coming to light. Karma is a b****
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    nohny noke wrote:


    Why are Phil and Amy so confused about the college admissions process?



    Shouldn't it be easier for the person with loads of money to choose where to send their kids to university? The Mickelsons can afford any college on the planet. There are no bad options for people like that.



    What bad luck for them that they just happened to choose the tutoring company named in the biggest ever collegiate admissions scandal.




    Because it’s a confusing process? Apply to half a dozen colleges, each with a different application process, requirements and cut-off dates and it’s a lot more work than you’d think.



    I used a service when I was applying to law schools. Help with LSAT prep, help with tailoring essays to specific schools, putting together and submitting app packages. It was a big help and took a lot of stress off of me. Worth every penny.




    Ok.



    Looks like you are in CA. Just out of curiosity - had you heard of the admissions prep company named in the indictment? I'm not trying to imply anything, just wondering how well-known this firm was.
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