Ping i210/i500 driving iron recommendation

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shredNECTARshredNECTAR  148WRX Points: 61Handicap: 11Members Posts: 148 Fairways
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First post for myself here and just wanted to say that I am STOKED to be here. Plenty of great insight and great to finally be a member of the forum after being a creeper for the last few years. I wanted to start by saying that I am currently in the scenario of about to buy my second set of irons. I got fit for the ping i210 4-UW. I always liked having a driving iron in the bag and in my current set up I have both the Mizuno MP18 MMC fli-hi 2 and 3 iron. Plan on getting rid of both of them because I would prefer to go with either Ping i500 standard or Powerloft, or just get the Ping i210 3 Iron with the set. The reason being I just don't like the look of the Mizuno down at the ball and wouldn't want to manipulate the shaft or lie angle if I plan on getting rid of them. So my questions are the following..



1. Ping i500 standard/powerloft 3 iron owners- Did you feel you needed a lighter shaft to get more distance in the 3 iron, almost like the shafts you see in todays driving irons or did if you use the shaft you had in your set and felt no loss of distance?



2. Ping i210 3 iron owners- Would you prefer a lighter shaft to get more out of the 3 iron, if distance, and punching out of bad situations is what you value vs. having a 3 iron that is just gapped perfectly with your set?



3. Please provide 7 iron distances with 3 Iron distances so I could somewhat determine what would be my best course of action between the two clubs. Also specify powerloft/standardloft settings and if you changed iron shaft to go with 3 iron.



Mizuno 16.5 deg 2iron 240-255yd with very low ball flight (best case scenario)

Mizuno 19 deg 3 iron, 235-240yds

I currently game Ping g25 stiff shafts 110g, 7iron distance 175-180.

Ping i210 shafts i was fitted for Project x lz 6.0 120g, 7 iron distance 165. - 1/2in







What I am ideally looking for is a solid 3 iron off the tee with a higher penetrating ballflight (unlike my current 2iron set up). Also a club I could use to punch out of sticky situations and still get me that approach distance I need after hitting a bad tee shot on a long hole.



Really appreciate it fellas
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  • adh2k1adh2k1 Houghton, MI 296WRX Points: 56Handicap: 2Members Posts: 296 Greens
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    I have a bent i500 3i that is at 17 I believe. Now that thing is a rocket, but a very low launching rocket. Feel is fantastic and very forgiving. You are probably a much higher SS than I am, but I can push it out there around 225 carry. My 4i is about 205, 5i is about 190, 6i is about 180, and 7i is about 165. Now I have all of my lofts slightly adjusted to allow for decent gappings. I used to use a Fli-Hi MMC as well but had that bent to 14.5 and I just couldn't carry it that far. I would get about 200-205 carry but it was very controllable for me. i500 is better all around so if you can hit the Fli-Hi, I think you could easily get along with an i500. Other than the hot faces, I prefer the i500s to the i200s all around. Feels like cheating when I hit them.
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  • shredNECTARshredNECTAR  148WRX Points: 61Handicap: 11Members Posts: 148 Fairways
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    Appreciate the reply. I def hit my MP18 fli-hi 16.5 degree 2 iron on the low side and would want the added loft. I feel like the i500 3 iron regular spec at 18 would be the perfect launch for me. What shaft did they fit you in? Also would you rather have a lighter shaft in that 3 iron, then the one that belonged with your set?
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    Try the G410 Crossover. image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • adh2k1adh2k1 Houghton, MI 296WRX Points: 56Handicap: 2Members Posts: 296 Greens
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    I have the same shaft that is in the rest of my irons. I just cut it down 1/2 inch or so. I have the Ping AWT 2.0 in mine so it might be a little lighter than a standard 3 iron as well. Either way it is really working for me.
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  • BCULAWBCULAW Orlando, FL 3797WRX Points: 316Members Posts: 3,797 Titanium Tees
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    I played the i500s for a couple of months. The 3 iron replaced my 3 wood.



    For reference, I typically hit my 7 iron (MP18 blade) 165-170. 3 iron in that same set is 205-210.



    I dropped an i500 4 iron to 4 feet from 229 and hit the green with the 3 iron from 242 on a par 5. (Thanks for the passive brag opportunity). I used the same iron shaft in the 3 as I had in the rest of my set (Modus 105x).



    I found the i500sto be ridiculously long on full swings. Perfect long iron replacements,IMO. Just be careful if you are trying to fit certain gaps. You might find that you need a 5 iron for a particular gap,even if you are replacing a 3 iron.
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  • shredNECTARshredNECTAR  148WRX Points: 61Handicap: 11Members Posts: 148 Fairways
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    Ended up just going with the i210 3iron-uw. I like the offset in the i210 and figured I would give that a shot first and go from there. Can’t wait to get them.
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  • gloferglofer  21WRX Points: 23Handicap: 3Members Posts: 21 Bunkers
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    On -, @shredNECTAR said:

    shred - Was searching for info on driving irons vs ping long irons and wham your post pretty much mimics my questions/line of thinking, plus your 7 iron distances match mine exactly (with the same difference in G vs i series). So, as it's been many months ago, can I ask for a follow up? Specifically,

    What driving irons and set long irons did you experiment with? (club and shaft)
    What were the average carry/total distances, max carry/total, and fairway % with each? (guesstimates if you are not a stats-keeper)
    What were your conclusions? (generally with driving irons, and specifically with the i500 vs i210 set 3irons)

    Thanks!!

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    On -, @glofer said:

    On -, @shredNECTAR said:

    shred - Was searching for info on driving irons vs ping long irons and wham your post pretty much mimics my questions/line of thinking, plus your 7 iron distances match mine exactly (with the same difference in G vs i series). So, as it's been many months ago, can I ask for a follow up? Specifically,

    What driving irons and set long irons did you experiment with? (club and shaft)
    What were the average carry/total distances, max carry/total, and fairway % with each? (guesstimates if you are a stats-keeper)
    What were your conclusions? (generally with driving irons, as specifically with the i500 vs i210 set 3irons)

    Thanks!!

    I carry an i500 3 iron and 4 iron with my s55 irons, so not the perfect comparisons, but here are my distances. The shafts are dynamic gold x100's.
    s55 24* 4 iron: 215
    i500 23* 4 iron: 225-230 with a much higher ball flight
    i500 19* 3 iron: 245-250

    To me the s55 4 iron had better distance control and accuracy when struck well, but it was less forgiving. Also, a little more difficult to stop on the greens. As far hitting fairways I probably hit more fairways with the s55, but get better distance out of the i500, especially on mishits.

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    On -, @gopherlover said:

    I carry an i500 3 iron and 4 iron with my s55 irons, so not the perfect comparisons, but here are my distances. The shafts are dynamic gold x100's.
    s55 24* 4 iron: 215
    i500 23* 4 iron: 225-230 with a much higher ball flight
    i500 19* 3 iron: 245-250

    To me the s55 4 iron had better distance control and accuracy when struck well, but it was less forgiving. Also, a little more difficult to stop on the greens. As far hitting fairways I probably hit more fairways with the s55, but get better distance out of the i500, especially on mishits.

    Good info, gopherlover, thanks. Have you hit any specific driving irons; if so, which ones and how did those compare in distance / fairways hit to your i500 3 iron?

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    On -, @glofer said:

    On -, @gopherlover said:

    I carry an i500 3 iron and 4 iron with my s55 irons, so not the perfect comparisons, but here are my distances. The shafts are dynamic gold x100's.
    s55 24* 4 iron: 215
    i500 23* 4 iron: 225-230 with a much higher ball flight
    i500 19* 3 iron: 245-250

    To me the s55 4 iron had better distance control and accuracy when struck well, but it was less forgiving. Also, a little more difficult to stop on the greens. As far hitting fairways I probably hit more fairways with the s55, but get better distance out of the i500, especially on mishits.

    Good info, gopherlover, thanks. Have you hit any specific driving irons; if so, which ones and how did those compare in distance / fairways hit to your i500 3 iron?

    I've demoed other driving irons, but I don't have a lot of experience with them, but I picked the i500 mostly because it is the most iron like in it's shape of the hollow irons and I wanted something with a more iron like profile. I think all things being equal you will get equal distance with an i500 vs most other DI's, but the trade-off for the smaller and thinner profile is that the i500 might be a little less forgiving. A lot of the driving irons have stuff sticking out of the back when you look down on it while the i500 does not. The biggest thing would putting a steel vs. graphite shaft in it. Are you looking for a long iron with more help/distance than the 3 or 4 iron you are currently playing? Or are you looking for something that performs like a fairway wood with an iron like profile. I wanted the former and getting the i500's in the same shaft and lie angle has hit the spot.

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  • gloferglofer  21WRX Points: 23Handicap: 3Members Posts: 21 Bunkers
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    On -, @gopherlover said:

    gopherlover - I am looking for something to hit off the tee that will hit fairways at a higher % than a fairway wood, but will go further than my set 4 iron. That is what shredNectar was looking for when he created the post so I jumped in hoping he would respond with his findings. I have always been a Ping guy so was drawn to the i500 3iron like shred (and you). I'll DM shred in case he doesn't get notifications of new comments.

    Your distances, gopherlover, and similar to mine (and shred's), so I appreciate your comments very much. I have a Ping G 4iron that I carry 225 off the tee., rolls 5-25 after that depending on conditions. I am hopeful to find something longer (I don't have a 3 - yet) that hits fairways consistently like the 4iron (i.e. more consistently than a 3 wood) since I have an open spot at the top end of my bag. Not a hybrid or 5wood (trajectory too high, for me at least). Hence DI or set 3 iron.

    I've tried the P790 UDI - too low trajectory for my taste (like a 2 iron).
    I've tried the GAPR Lo and Mid - both better trajectory (low-mid), similar traj for me despite the names, both avg ~260 off tee (total, not carry), max to 275 for me, so the leader in clubhouse for me.
    Need to get an i500 3iron for on-course performance testing, proving difficult; so interested in shred's experiences.
    Also interested in testing the X Forged Utility.

    Your i500 # are telling, gopherlover, even though you haven't tested a DI on course. Probably indicative of mine, i.e. 250y, right between the 4iron and GAPR. What I'm uncertain of is fairways hit. Which brings me back to shred's experiences. And of course me getting one out on the course. Thanks, gopherlover.

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    I'd be shocked if you don't find the 410 Crossover is a better all around option over i500 3i

    Why take a spot in the bag rendering hitting put of long rough impossible? Crossover will be through the ruff much easier

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    i500 is super low launching. If you're looking for a true driving iron it's great, but if you're looking for something with a little higher trajectory and more forgiveness the g410 crossover is the way to go. The crossover still doesn't launch that high either. I've played both and that's what I found at least.

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    I appreciate the G410 Crossover suggestions, animal and High. I didn't even consider it, frankly, because of the huge offset and high COR, the two reasons I no longer game my Gs (misses became hooks, and the extra L-R dispersion potential). But - since you two both suggested the same exact club, and are similar in handicap, I will give the G410 Crossover a try along with the i500 3i - thanks.

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    On -, @glofer said:

    I appreciate the G410 Crossover suggestions, animal and High. I didn't even consider it, frankly, because of the huge offset and high COR, the two reasons I no longer game my Gs (misses became hooks, and the extra L-R dispersion potential). But - since you two both suggested the same exact club, and are similar in handicap, I will give the G410 Crossover a try along with the i500 3i - thanks.

    If it's any consolation the G410 Crossover 3 actually has just slightly less offset than the i210 3. But no doubt the i500 3 looks the best at address.

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    On -, @glofer said:

    I appreciate the G410 Crossover suggestions, animal and High. I didn't even consider it, frankly, because of the huge offset and high COR, the two reasons I no longer game my Gs (misses became hooks, and the extra L-R dispersion potential). But - since you two both suggested the same exact club, and are similar in handicap, I will give the G410 Crossover a try along with the i500 3i - thanks.

    I don't know what shaft you'll go. Remember Ping doesn't tip their shafts unless requested

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  • WarEagleGolfWarEagleGolf  398WRX Points: 88Members Posts: 398 Greens
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    I hit my I500 3 nice and high - off the tee.

    Use my normal iron shaft. About 110 mph with driver. Hit the i500 230 off the tee. It's a bomber. Just have to find the right shaft and weight profile.

    Wouldn't suggest hitting it out the rough....unless you like hitting again from a few feet in front of the previous. But I mean...come on.

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    Just purchased a set of i210s 5-g. After this thread I'll probably add a i500 4i. Dam WRX.

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