Gapping Between 4 Iron and 3 Wood

 b.mattay ·  
b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er 596WRX Points: 117Handicap: +2Members Posts: 596 Golden Tee
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I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



Hybrid:

Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



7 Wood:

Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



3 Iron:

Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



Other Info:

Driver SS: 120mph

Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



What club would you choose???
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2017 M1 (9.5 set to 8.0, Grafalloy Blue 65X, Z-Cord)

M5 (15.0 set to 13.5, Grafalloy Blue 75X, Z-Cord)

816 H2 (21 set to 20.25 [C1], Whiteboard 90X, Z-Cord)

S56 (4-P, PX 7.0, Z-Cord, Black Dot)

SM6 (51.13F, 55.15F, 60.12V, Shafts Undecided, Z-Cord, 1 Degree Flat)

Spider Tour Black (34.5 inches, Garsen Ultimate Grip)
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  • BiggErnBiggErn  2735WRX Points: 623Members Posts: 2,735 Titanium Tees
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    A new driver if you’re left with a lot of 250 shots.
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  • cargo8cargo8  76WRX Points: 13Handicap: 10Members Posts: 76 Fairways
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    Did you try a utility iron or a stock 3?



    Apex UT and Gapr Lo are both pretty awesome, TMB is great too but slightly less forgiving
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  • JAMH03JAMH03  979WRX Points: 435Members Posts: 979 Golden Tee
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    Get a 18-22* wood w/ a stout shaft tip it and you have yr club. Reason why you want 2 play something relatively stiff is because this club will be all about accuracy long approaches and uber tight fwys. So you want it 2 do that job as well as possible. Why a wood? Because its better suited 2 the task. PS Congrats on the high SS & Low cap well done!!
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  • HedgehogHedgehog EU 503WRX Points: 193Handicap: 5Members Posts: 503 Golden Tee
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    Get a properly fitted hybrid, one of the most versatile long clubs if you learn to use it.
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  • agolf1agolf1  1845WRX Points: 1,035Members Posts: 1,845 Platinum Tees
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    I don't have anywhere near the swing speed as you, but I've gone back and forth between FW/hybrid after my 19* 5-wood (i.e. a 22* hybrid or another fairway around this loft). Personally, I find that having two fairways in a row provides a little less versatility. From a perfect lie in the fairway or tee box (and probably a decent lie in the rough), I probably prefer the another high lofted fairway. However, I find that the hybrid is much easier to hit out of bad lies in the rough or sidehill lies in the rough (I think the fairway's head is just too big sometimes on the sidehill lies). I obviously don't have the swing speed for a 3-iron...



    With your speed, you probably don't have any issues elevating the 2nd fairway out of tougher lies though.
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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984  5813WRX Points: 1,307Handicap: 3Members Posts: 5,813 Titanium Tees
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    You miss 65% of fairways, bomb and gouge!!
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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 2124WRX Points: 1,353Handicap: SnowMembers Posts: 2,124 Platinum Tees
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    Hybrid for me is the best option. I find 7 wood very one dimensional. I find it very interesting that you like it out of the rough... Regardless I'd get a properly fit hybrid or a graphite shafted utility such as Srixon Uxx, UDI, T-MB etc.
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  • baloobaloo A Person Wisconsin 1093WRX Points: 135Members Posts: 1,093 Platinum Tees
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    What will you use it for more? Approach shots or tee shots?
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  • pheenomz4774pheenomz4774  963WRX Points: 184Members Posts: 963 Golden Tee
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    I have nowhere near the same swing speed or distances you have but did go through about 2 years of trying to fit the same gap between my 3 Wood (225) and my 4 iron (180-190). Didn't get along with the 3 iron because I found myself needing it out of the rough a bit too much, and neither 2/3 hybrid ever worked out for me. What I chose was a 5 wood with a cranked up loft since I have traditionally hit fairway woods more consistent than hybrids and the longer irons.



    So my advice is take the club on the other end of the spectrum (fairway or long iron) you hit the best, and go ahead and take the club right next to it.
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    Driver: Ping G400 9° Diamana Blueboard 60s
    Fairway: Ping G410 14.5° Tensei Orange 70s
    Hybrids: Ping G410 19° and 22° Tensei Blue 80s
    Irons: Ping iBlade 5-9 (power spec)/PW Modus 120s
    Wedges: Ping Glide 2.0 52°SS, 56°WS, 60°TS 
    Putter: Ping Sigma 2 Tyne
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  • CJINCCJINC  296WRX Points: 77Members Posts: 296 Greens
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    Are you more accurate with your 7 wood vs hybrid? If yes, in true WRX fashion get BOTH!!



    When the wind is howling, or playing a very tight course play the 3 iron. Normal use the 7 wood.



    CJ
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  • Whit1969Whit1969  1063WRX Points: 133Members Posts: 1,063 Platinum Tees
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    From the cons you listed for each one I would suggest the hybrid. Like another poster stated get a tip stiff shaft in it and get an adjustable one and open the club face. This should help prevent the hooks with it. The hybrid is just more versatile than the fairway wood or the 3 iron.
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  • TexasRedTexasRed  96WRX Points: 29ClubWRX Posts: 96 ClubWRX
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    My swing speed is similar to yours and for me, the best option is a 19* hybrid. It’s more versatile than my 3i and any woods with higher than 15* loft never suited my eye.
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  • mwink822mwink822  2694WRX Points: 155Members Posts: 2,694 Titanium Tees
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    A 19* utility iron could be a good place to start. Something like a Titleist T-MB; Ping G410 Crossover; Callaway Apex UT; Srixon Z785U; Taylormade GAPR Lo or Mid; or if you can find one out there, an 18* Adams Pro Mini hyubrid or DHy.
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  • ChipNRunChipNRun  2060WRX Points: 452Members Posts: 2,060 Platinum Tees
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    balls_deep wrote:


    Hybrid for me is the best option. I find 7 wood very one dimensional. I find it very interesting that you like it out of the rough... Regardless I'd get a properly fit hybrid or a graphite shafted utility such as Srixon Uxx, UDI, T-MB etc.




    The 7W is great out of the rough, better than a hybrid. Also good for long par 3 holes. I swap out the 7W for 3H in winter when the rough is thinner and the winds higher. (3H launches lower) I'm not the longest hitter but the 7W gives a reliable 200 yards.



    As for b.mattay, check out the Tour Edge CBX. TE reps bill them as left-proof, and several bloggers have picked them up for that reason. Original CBX comes with robust Project X HZDS and Kuro Kage shafts as stock. Also check out the follow-on CBX119 hybrids.

    https://www.touredge...s/cbxhybrid.asp
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    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperHot - orange
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course and season.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
  • fpyle3fpyle3 Pennsylvania 187WRX Points: 112Handicap: +0.6Members Posts: 187 Fairways
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    I generally will switch between a 17-18* driving iron and 18-19* hybrid to fill the gap between 4 iron and 3 wood. I play the driving iron on short, tight courses where I anticipate needing it for at least 2-3 tee shots and the hybrid on longer/open courses where I know I'll just hit driver all day. To help with gapping, my 4 iron is generally 1 or 2 degrees strong (usually at 21*), and I may strengthen my 5 iron a degree if needed to keep 4* gaps between my 4 iron and gap wedge. If you can find an Adams Pro Mini or DHy, they may be the best cross between a driving iron and hybrid that I've seen.
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    Driver: TM M3 9.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD GP-6X
    Fairway Wood/b]: TM M3 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD MT-7X
    Utility: TM UDI 17*, Hzrdus Black 6.5 
    3/4 Iron: Callaway X-Forged UT 21*, Nippon Modus 120X
    5-6: Callaway Apex Pro, Nippon Modus 120X 
    7-8: Callaway Apex Pro Dot, Nippon Modus 120X
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  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er  596WRX Points: 117Handicap: +2Members Posts: 596 Golden Tee
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    MattyO1984 wrote:


    You miss 65% of fairways, bomb and gouge!!




    On my home course for sure, super tight fairways on most holes (<30 yards) and I take aggressive lines! I miss a butt load of fairways by a few feet 😂. Driver or die!
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    2017 M1 (9.5 set to 8.0, Grafalloy Blue 65X, Z-Cord)

    M5 (15.0 set to 13.5, Grafalloy Blue 75X, Z-Cord)

    816 H2 (21 set to 20.25 [C1], Whiteboard 90X, Z-Cord)

    S56 (4-P, PX 7.0, Z-Cord, Black Dot)

    SM6 (51.13F, 55.15F, 60.12V, Shafts Undecided, Z-Cord, 1 Degree Flat)

    Spider Tour Black (34.5 inches, Garsen Ultimate Grip)
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  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er  596WRX Points: 117Handicap: +2Members Posts: 596 Golden Tee
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    cargo8 wrote:


    Did you try a utility iron or a stock 3?



    Apex UT and Gapr Lo are both pretty awesome, TMB is great too but slightly less forgiving




    The GAPR looks awesome. I tried the Mizuno HiFli and really didn’t love it.
    Posted:
    2017 M1 (9.5 set to 8.0, Grafalloy Blue 65X, Z-Cord)

    M5 (15.0 set to 13.5, Grafalloy Blue 75X, Z-Cord)

    816 H2 (21 set to 20.25 [C1], Whiteboard 90X, Z-Cord)

    S56 (4-P, PX 7.0, Z-Cord, Black Dot)

    SM6 (51.13F, 55.15F, 60.12V, Shafts Undecided, Z-Cord, 1 Degree Flat)

    Spider Tour Black (34.5 inches, Garsen Ultimate Grip)
  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er  596WRX Points: 117Handicap: +2Members Posts: 596 Golden Tee
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    baloo wrote:


    What will you use it for more? Approach shots or tee shots?




    Depends a lot on what club I pick. Most comfortable with 3i off the tee, most comfortable with 7Wood on approach shots.
    Posted:
    2017 M1 (9.5 set to 8.0, Grafalloy Blue 65X, Z-Cord)

    M5 (15.0 set to 13.5, Grafalloy Blue 75X, Z-Cord)

    816 H2 (21 set to 20.25 [C1], Whiteboard 90X, Z-Cord)

    S56 (4-P, PX 7.0, Z-Cord, Black Dot)

    SM6 (51.13F, 55.15F, 60.12V, Shafts Undecided, Z-Cord, 1 Degree Flat)

    Spider Tour Black (34.5 inches, Garsen Ultimate Grip)
  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er  596WRX Points: 117Handicap: +2Members Posts: 596 Golden Tee
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    ChipNRun wrote:

    balls_deep wrote:


    Hybrid for me is the best option. I find 7 wood very one dimensional. I find it very interesting that you like it out of the rough... Regardless I'd get a properly fit hybrid or a graphite shafted utility such as Srixon Uxx, UDI, T-MB etc.




    The 7W is great out of the rough, better than a hybrid. Also good for long par 3 holes. I swap out the 7W for 3H in winter when the rough is thinner and the winds higher. (3H launches lower) I'm not the longest hitter but the 7W gives a reliable 200 yards.



    As for b.mattay, check out the Tour Edge CBX. TE reps bill them as left-proof, and several bloggers have picked them up for that reason. Original CBX comes with robust Project X HZDS and Kuro Kage shafts as stock. Also check out the follow-on CBX119 hybrids.

    https://www.touredge...s/cbxhybrid.asp




    Those look sweet! Will have to look into reviews on it. The low-spin thing kind of freaks me out given my propensity to hit accidental nukes with hybrids!
    Posted:
    2017 M1 (9.5 set to 8.0, Grafalloy Blue 65X, Z-Cord)

    M5 (15.0 set to 13.5, Grafalloy Blue 75X, Z-Cord)

    816 H2 (21 set to 20.25 [C1], Whiteboard 90X, Z-Cord)

    S56 (4-P, PX 7.0, Z-Cord, Black Dot)

    SM6 (51.13F, 55.15F, 60.12V, Shafts Undecided, Z-Cord, 1 Degree Flat)

    Spider Tour Black (34.5 inches, Garsen Ultimate Grip)

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