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You have to question Phil's character at this point

King_SlenderKing_Slender Advanced Members Posts: 1,386 ✭✭
Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
  1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
  2. An insider trading lawsuit
  3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.
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  • hell_is_chromehell_is_chrome Advanced Members Posts: 895 ✭✭
    edited March 15


    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything wrong so we have to believe him.
  • King_SlenderKing_Slender Advanced Members Posts: 1,386 ✭✭




    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything so we have to believe him.






    Maybe not, but in my mind it goes back to a quote from another tour player I heard years ago - Phil always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He could be in a room with a bunch of Wall Street sharks and he'd be giving them stock picking advice. I think when you have that mentality, there is a tendency to try and operate in gray legal areas because that is often where the opportunity lies, even though it increases legal risk. With his money, i just don't see the point, other than he has an internal need to do that to show others how smart he is.
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  • cdnglfcdnglf Advanced Members Posts: 3,018 ✭✭
    Also has made some very questionable clothing choices over the years. White belts are for 32 waists and under, hefty.
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  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER Advanced Members Posts: 884 ✭✭
    I doubt anybody really wants to know the people they root for or cheer on, my guess is most people would be disappointed.
  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker Advanced Members Posts: 5,006 ✭✭
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    Fans don't care about white collar crime. He's filthy rich... You almost expect this kind of stuff with people with lots of money and fame.
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  • OldboyOldboy Advanced Members Posts: 2,369 ✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    Fans don't care about white collar crime. He's filthy rich... You almost expect this kind of stuff with people with lots of money and fame.




    and the golfer involved just happens to be PM .. again .. for the 3rd time .. is anyone surprised?
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  • Night trainNight train Advanced Members Posts: 2,815 ✭✭
    Since thousands of families have used this service in finding a college for their children, I’ll presume they’re innocent until evidence proves otherwise!
  • LUMALUMA I Am My Greatest Downfall Advanced Members Posts: 2,335 ✭✭
    I know people who have spent considerable time inside and outside the ropes with him. Let's just say the opposition is not always entirely incorrect about him. I'm not judging his character, I'm just saying.



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  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150



    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything wrong so we have to believe him.




    Phil has been tainted by the other 1% crooks ... like Greg Norman, who played the front man for Wall Street stock/hedge fund scammers ( see Jack Welch, Norman's big buddy). Norman, then confused, himself and the simple minded, he was a great business man and so so so smart (sound familiar). Ya, that Cobra **** was worth that much and how is that wine business going now, Greg?.

    When it comes to the 1% fleecing that never ending national treasure (our tax money ) ... they will keep finding ways to do it.
  • hell_is_chromehell_is_chrome Advanced Members Posts: 895 ✭✭
    Just so everyone knows, I was being facetious.
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    edited March 15



    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything so we have to believe him.






    Maybe not, but in my mind it goes back to a quote from another tour player I heard years ago - Phil always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He could be in a room with a bunch of Wall Street sharks and he'd be giving them stock picking advice. I think when you have that mentality, there is a tendency to try and operate in gray legal areas because that is often where the opportunity lies, even though it increases legal risk. With his money, i just don't see the point, other than he has an internal need to do that to show others how smart he is.


    Actually, guys like Phil and Norman, they know it all and though are so so much smarter than anyone ... will listen to these Wall Street scammers. Only those crooks can come up with the devious theft devices they come up with , while having the perfect connections. The Gov't/ Wall Street are one in the same when it comes to crime. And few are allowed in the club. Paradoxically, only the real stupid and unlucky get caught.
  • PowderedToastManPowderedToastMan Advanced Members Posts: 3,695 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    There’s is a presumption of innocence in the United States. Phil is entitled to it. Remember, Anthony Galea had patients who weren’t taking PED’s. His specialty was blood spinning and Galea was talented at it. Same type of scenario may be occurring here with Phil and this college admissions thing. Just have to wait and see.



    Edit: just to be clear, I’m not defending Galea. He’s a criminal and did bad stuff. I’m simply saying not everyone who is involved with these professionals got the illegal treatments.
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  • jmkenn0jmkenn0 Advanced Members Posts: 660 ✭✭
    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150


    There's is a presumption of innocence in the United States. Phil is entitled to it. Remember, Anthony Galea had patients who weren't taking PED's. His specialty was blood spinning and Galea was talented at it. Same type of scenario may be occurring here with Phil and this college admissions thing. Just have to wait and see.


    Like the stock scam with the convicted gambler ... Phil will skate. Doesn't mean he is innocent, just lucky.
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  • elwhippyelwhippy Advanced Members Posts: 3,048
    He is what we call in the UK "Goldenballs". He can do what he likes because he has awesome marketing.
  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    I wonder if even half the people on this thread could live up to the moral standards they hold their professional athletes too...
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    edited March 15
    jmkenn0 wrote:


    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.


    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involved in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)
  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    I'm also confused at the level of judgement over a mans involvement with a organization that, at the time he used it, had no negative reputation or implication of crooked practices. He had no idea, and that's what he said in the press.
  • OldboyOldboy Advanced Members Posts: 2,369 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    Couples1 wrote:

    jmkenn0 wrote:


    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.


    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involvd in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)




    well how bout this one .. and credit to it already being posted in another topic .. the father (and husband of Lori Laughlin who was arrested) of the girl at USC on the yacht is Mossimo Giannuli .. who is the founder of G/FORE clothing (and a member at Bel Air and Lakeside).. guess what shoes Phil WEARS??? yeah the've never met before ...
  • falken19150falken19150 Advanced Members Posts: 1,739 ✭✭
    Never buying GFore stuff again.....
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    he would make a good politician...first pga tour player to go all the way
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    Dr. Block wrote:


    I wonder if even half the people on this thread could live up to the moral standards they hold their professional athletes too...




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  • youdamantigeryoudamantiger Advanced Members Posts: 350 ✭✭


    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Using that logic we have no choice but to confidently assert that Tiger took PEDs given to him by Dr.Galea.
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    Worst yet, the yacht is owned by the chair of the board of trustee of USC LOL .... how is he going to explain this. Oh, everyone will find a way, of course.
  • dropkickeddropkicked Advanced Members Posts: 255 ✭✭
    The elite always pay to get their kids into schools.. some donate $ so they can build a new wing, have it named after them and their kids get a free ride...
  • tideridertiderider Advanced Members Posts: 1,309 ✭✭
    phil isn't the only celebrity/pro to have been involved with these things ... he's the only one that's been discovered to have been involved ...
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    edited March 15
    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involved in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)



    Guess I should write a CSI TPC episode or something. Phil has some more talking to do. No wonder his head was spinning last week. Wasn't about the course, it was whether where he thought he was going to be arrested. Philly is not a good pick at Augusta lol
  • jholzjholz Advanced Members Posts: 1,245 ✭✭
    Given the license that the ultra-rich have to behave poorly, I would say that Phil is probably on the good side of average among the multi-millionaire set.
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  • GSDriverGSDriver Advanced Members Posts: 551 ✭✭
    Face it, right or wrong, celebs, successful athletes and the really wealthy have more advantages than us normal people. Been that way forever, and will continue to be that way.



    Questioning one's character because of advantages their status and wealth seems somewhat judgemental.



    Start a thread on Joe Montana, as he used the same service.



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  • chivachiva Advanced Members Posts: 2,389 ✭✭
    Oldboy wrote:

    Couples1 wrote:

    jmkenn0 wrote:


    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.


    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involvd in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)




    well how bout this one .. and credit to it already being posted in another topic .. the father (and husband of Lori Laughlin who was arrested) of the girl at USC on the yacht is Mossimo Giannuli .. who is the founder of G/FORE clothing (and a member at Bel Air and Lakeside).. guess what shoes Phil WEARS??? yeah the've never met before ...




    So is Bubba guilty too??
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  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    dropkicked wrote:


    The elite always pay to get their kids into schools.. some donate $ so they can build a new wing, have it named after them and their kids get a free ride...


    It's the tax deductions and the fraudulent test scores that will be their problem. Just because Phil says his kids are so smart doesn't mean they are ( sound familiar). If they are anything like that ditz on youtube ... oh my, there is going to be trouble. This nation is not in the mood for anymore financial scandals involving the public.
  • playar32playar32 Advanced Members Posts: 272 ✭✭
    I wouldn't get it twisted. It's a too much of a movie plot people believe that everyone who has money is evil and everyone who doesn't have money is pure. It goes both ways; as stated up in the thread, there are low level income people doing sketchy things to curb the law, its just no one cares.



    People are already mad at the rich\successful, but get more annoyed when the rich act cocky. Reminds me of Belichick when he started running different formations in playoff game he won (like 6/7lineman, shifting who was the center). When asked in the after game press conference, he said the other team should read the rule book. Next game, they played the Colts; otherwise known as the "deflate-gate" game. Then that whole thing happened.
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    edited March 15
    tiderider wrote:


    phil isn't the only celebrity/pro to have been involved with these things ... he's the only one that's been discovered to have been involved ...


    And by his lawyers getting him out in front of the mess ... they learned well for cooperating, so well, in the stock scam. I'll play nice now, since you caught me.

    Phil just play golf and gamble legally and stop watching the Sopranos . Leave the big money scams to the real thieves. You obviously are not good at it.



    Luke warm reception or Philly Scammer during the introduction ... seems distracted just hit his 1st drive in the ocean,some 3 miles from the course.

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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,213 ✭✭
    I question the intentions and character of anyone who starts a “ I hate “ insert player thread.
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  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150



    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Using that logic we have no choice but to confidently assert that Tiger took PEDs given to him by Dr.Galea.


    Tiger did take them, so did VJ, Trevor Immelman, Lee Westwod, and Annika. Not even a question. Hello.
  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 23,995 ClubWRX


    Since thousands of families have used this service in finding a college for their children, I’ll presume they’re innocent until evidence proves otherwise!




    This is the internet. You're guilty in the court of public opinion and then forgotten when the next scandal du jour rolls around.
  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150
    edited March 15
    chiva wrote:

    Oldboy wrote:

    Couples1 wrote:

    jmkenn0 wrote:


    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.


    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involvd in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)




    well how bout this one .. and credit to it already being posted in another topic .. the father (and husband of Lori Laughlin who was arrested) of the girl at USC on the yacht is Mossimo Giannuli .. who is the founder of G/FORE clothing (and a member at Bel Air and Lakeside).. guess what shoes Phil WEARS??? yeah the've never met before ...




    So is Bubba guilty too??


    Something says Bubba kids will go to a school that just breathing and some new golf equipment will be the only entrance requirement .... so it doesn't matter.
  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Advanced Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    This thread is so low brow that I wouldn't be surprised if Ferguson steers clear of it.
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    DavePelz4 wrote:



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    Ian Baker the Lock???
    DavePelz4 wrote:



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    Ian Baker the Lock???


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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day.... Advanced Members Posts: 24,213 ✭✭
    edited March 15
    Dr. Block wrote:


    I wonder if even half the people on this thread could live up to the moral standards they hold their professional athletes too...




    Only the ones posting from their moms basement. It’s funny how the ones who alwasy crow the loudest in these type cases are the transients and m/or the large heirs to estates that have afforded their retirement. The rest know that speed limits are written at a level with breakage in mind. Every Market in every corner of the world would crash if every law were followed 100 %. Why ? No money would flow. Spending is what makes it all work. The money hoarders think they are the pillars of the system and therefore above reproach . In fact they are the selfish ones with bad character compared to the spenders like Phil.



    This type preferential behavior has never been stopped and will never be stopped. It’s a fools errand. Change the system to work off of grades/ test scores and give the best minds free rides to the best suited school for their intended trade. Shouldn’t be allowed to donate money to a school. Until they stop that I don’t care who pays whom to get their kid in.
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  • Couples1Couples1 Advanced Members Posts: 150

    DavePelz4 wrote:



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    Ian Baker the Lock???
    DavePelz4 wrote:



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    Ian Baker the Lock???


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  • dropkickeddropkicked Advanced Members Posts: 255 ✭✭
    Couples1 wrote:

    dropkicked wrote:


    The elite always pay to get their kids into schools.. some donate $ so they can build a new wing, have it named after them and their kids get a free ride...


    It's the tax deductions and the fraudulent test scores that will be their problem. Just because Phil says his kids are so smart doesn't mean they are ( sound familiar). If they are anything like that ditz on youtube ... oh my, there is going to be trouble. This nation is not in the mood for anymore financial scandals involving the public.
    I don't think they really care. Parent's are filthy rich, they will work for their parents or use up their $. Nepotism, is real.. and these dumb twats will always get high paying jobs simply because of who they are.. that's life in the "big smoke"... *shrugs*

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