Iron shafts in your wedges

 MillerLowLife ·  
MillerLowLifeMillerLowLife SLC, UT 815WRX Points: 118Handicap: 5Members Posts: 815 Golden Tee
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Been gaming the same Nippon 130x shafts for several years now. Really enjoy them and feel they’re a really good fit. Now I feel this is fine in my gap wedge but have felt that maybe it’s time to move away from them in my 56/60. I have a strong digger swing but find sometimes that it’s harder the flight my wedges. Am I right to think because of the shaft being so firm and unable to load it properly for easier swings that it may be a cause for the feeling that I only hit moon balls? Been thinking of possibly switching to like a Nippon 115 wedge shaft. My main concern though is going to far in the opposite direction and having too soft of a shaft I guess. 

Appreciate any input.
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Mizuno ST190HL w/ Ventus Blue 6x

Taylormade original M2 Fairway w/ leadtape

Mizuno FliHI 3i w/ x100

Srixon z785 4-PW w/ x100

Mizuno T20 in blue 52

Taylormade Milled in blk 56/60

Mizuno M-craft III

Ball: Srixon XV

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  • 76mpg76mpg  351WRX Points: 100Members Posts: 351 Greens
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    If you are truly a fit for 130x nippons I would not play the 115s, completely different profile. Play the 130 s in your lower wedges. And being overly stiff wouldn’t cause moon balls, the opposite actually. 

    I play 130 s flex and play tour v wedge flex in my wedges, another good alternative. 
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  • agolf1agolf1  1853WRX Points: 1,040Members Posts: 1,853 Platinum Tees
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    Generally speaking, I would also guess that the 130 s is a better match.  However, anything can feel better for a particular person so it's hard to say.
    For the SW/LW (mainly partial swing wedges), it seems like the shaft is mostly feel and has less to do with the actual flex/loading.  For example, I think Koepka plays X100 / S400 (typical pattern).  Following the same logic, I would play R-flex / Senior-Flex (or SS R-flex).  But to make a 60* wedge go 50 yards, we are both probably swing the club at about the same speed.  For him it just happens to be a flick and for me it is like a 3/4 swing.
    For whatever its worth, I've played a LW with anything from an R-flex 6 iron shaft to a X100 in it.  They definitely feel different but I don't think they impact the shots much.
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    Titleist 915 D4 10.5*, Diamana S+ Blue 60 S-Flex
    Titleist 915F 16.5* & 21.0*, Diamana S+ Blue 70 S-Flex
    PING G25 5-PW (25*-44*), UW (49*), SW (54*), CFS R-Flex
    PING Zing 2 L/S (57*)
    PING Cadence TR Ketsch Putter
    Backup Lob Wedges:  PING Eye 2+ (58*) or PING Eye 2 XG (60*)
  • MillerLowLifeMillerLowLife SLC, UT 815WRX Points: 118Handicap: 5Members Posts: 815 Golden Tee
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    76mpg said:
    If you are truly a fit for 130x nippons I would not play the 115s, completely different profile. Play the 130 s in your lower wedges. And being overly stiff wouldn’t cause moon balls, the opposite actually. 

    I play 130 s flex and play tour v wedge flex in my wedges, another good alternative. 
    I would say I am for sure. That's a good point though. 130s would probably be a lot better. I guess I really only wanted the 115 wedge because they come in black now and TM has them as an option for wedges. 
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    Mizuno ST190HL w/ Ventus Blue 6x

    Taylormade original M2 Fairway w/ leadtape

    Mizuno FliHI 3i w/ x100

    Srixon z785 4-PW w/ x100

    Mizuno T20 in blue 52

    Taylormade Milled in blk 56/60

    Mizuno M-craft III

    Ball: Srixon XV

  • 76mpg76mpg  351WRX Points: 100Members Posts: 351 Greens
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    On -, @MillerLowLife said:

    76mpg said:

    If you are truly a fit for 130x nippons I would not play the 115s, completely different profile. Play the 130 s in your lower wedges. And being overly stiff wouldn’t cause moon balls, the opposite actually. 

    I play 130 s flex and play tour v wedge flex in my wedges, another good alternative. 

    I would say I am for sure. That's a good point though. 130s would probably be a lot better. I guess I really only wanted the 115 wedge because they come in black now and TM has them as an option for wedges. 

    The 130 shafts are such a unique profile I just think the 115 would throw you off quite a bit. I agree, the blacks look nice...

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  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Southern Ontario, Canada 2130WRX Points: 391Handicap: 6.5Unregistered Posts: 2,130 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @MillerLowLife said:

    Been gaming the same Nippon 130x shafts for several years now. Really enjoy them and feel they’re a really good fit. Now I feel this is fine in my gap wedge but have felt that maybe it’s time to move away from them in my 56/60. I have a strong digger swing but find sometimes that it’s harder the flight my wedges. Am I right to think because of the shaft being so firm and unable to load it properly for easier swings that it may be a cause for the feeling that I only hit moon balls? Been thinking of possibly switching to like a Nippon 115 wedge shaft. My main concern though is going to far in the opposite direction and having too soft of a shaft I guess. 

    Appreciate any input.

    Nippon 125 wedge or Dynamic Gold s400. Are they different bend profiles compared to the 130? Yes. But they will both be heavier, lower launch, smoother, and a touch softer than the 130. Exactly what most people typically find attractive in a wedge shaft design.

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    Taylormade R510TP - Speeder 757
    Sonartec NP-99 14* and 17* - NV Green 85
    Nickent Genex 3DX 21* - Dynamic Gold SL
    Titleist 660 4-P - Dynamic Gold
    Cleveland 54* and 59* - Dynamic Gold
    Scotty Cameron Teryllium

  • ChipNRunChipNRun  2071WRX Points: 455Members Posts: 2,071 Platinum Tees
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    A slightly softer flex will allow you to get ample spin on partial shots (big mission for SW and LW) while maintaining a tempo swing.

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    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperHot - orange
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course and season.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.

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