Low spin shafts

krabboy22krabboy22 MurfreesboroMembers Posts: 2

I have a swing speed of around 105 with driver but I put a lot of spin on the ball hitting epic flash. What’s some good low spinning shafts?

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  • roundersmittyroundersmitty Members Posts: 1,108 ✭✭

    Hdzrus Yellow

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  • krabboy22krabboy22 MurfreesboroMembers Posts: 2

    I am currently hitting px evenflow blue 65 xstiff . The hazard yellow lower spin?

  • kyleluteskylelutes Members Posts: 80 ✭✭

    Yes, hzrdus yellow should spin a little less.

  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB) Members Posts: 3,533 ✭✭

    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

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  • halliedoghalliedog Members Posts: 2,296 ✭✭

    @krabboy22 said:
    I am currently hitting px evenflow blue 65 xstiff . The hazard yellow lower spin?

    If you like the EvenFlow feel-wise the White T1100 is supposed to be lowest launch/spin of that family. I just put one in a Mizuno GT180 head and am LOVING it so far.

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  • Awainer1Awainer1 Members Posts: 849 ✭✭

    Synergy black

  • chrissdcchrissdc Members Posts: 48 ✭✭

    Look into HOF shafts.

  • Mario Good TimesMario Good Times Members Posts: 464 ✭✭

    Kurt Kate xt
    Also for a slight counter balance feels just like the tense Orange use elements platinum proto it’s a well under rated shaft

  • DeadsquigglesDeadsquiggles Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Mitsubishi Tensei White

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    Putter: TaylorMade Tour Spider Red 35"
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  • backhillbackhill Members Posts: 94 ✭✭

    Check out the Big Bad Low Spin shaft thread by TollBros

  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers Posts: 5,319 ✭✭

    @rgk5 said:
    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

    Just to be clear, you're saying that, all else being equal, there won't be more than 300 RPM difference between say a Hzrdus T1100 and a Hzrdus Red ? Or a Diamana Red (M+?) and a Diamana White (D+) ?

    How about between different manufacturers ? Say Hzrdus T100 vs Diamana Red/M+ ?


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  • jjmurryjjmurry Members Posts: 67 ✭✭

    Also looking to clarify a few things: 1. what are your current spin numbers and other launch numbers? 2. could it be a swing fault based upon your numbers in question 1? Your current shaft should be fine as long as there isn't a swing fault at hand. I know myself that at this point I should not spend another dime on equipment until I fix my release so that I'm not hitting the all low on the face... it's the archer not the arrow!

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  • coreyhrcoreyhr Lafferty, Daniel Members Posts: 414 ✭✭

    You’ll have more luck lowering the loft on the adapter or going with a lower lofted head. Not sure what you’re spinning at right now, but you don’t want to be chasing sub-2,000 spin.

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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,173 ✭✭

    @krabboy22 said:
    I have a swing speed of around 105 with driver but I put a lot of spin on the ball hitting epic flash. What’s some good low spinning shafts?

    A lower lofted head before anything else.

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  • jkim27jkim27 Members Posts: 33 ✭✭

    @nsxguy said:

    @rgk5 said:
    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

    Just to be clear, you're saying that, all else being equal, there won't be more than 300 RPM difference between say a Hzrdus T1100 and a Hzrdus Red ? Or a Diamana Red (M+?) and a Diamana White (D+) ?

    How about between different manufacturers ? Say Hzrdus T100 vs Diamana Red/M+ ?

    Yeah definitely don't agree with this one, especially when a human is swinging the club and not a robot. I've had my fair share of experiments and found vastly different numbers depending on the shaft. Yes a lot of it has to do with how you swing it but thats where the shaft makes the biggest difference. I am a high spin player and was getting 3500+ RPM with the EF blue. Knew it didn't fit me but just tried it out for the sake of it. Then went to a HZRDUS black which got me to sub-2000 RPM, but really felt like I had to swing out of my shoes to get the thing to load. Finally settled on an Atmos Black which was way smoother and around 2300 RPM. This was all in the same club head with no intentional swing changes.

  • shellbmbshellbmb Members Posts: 233 ✭✭

    @Mario Good Times said:
    Kurt Kate xt
    Also for a slight counter balance feels just like the tense Orange use elements platinum proto it’s a well under rated shaft

    The Kuro Kage XD is slightly lower spin than the XT. Was playing a dual core XT TX and just switched to the XD and it lowered the spin by about 300 rpm.

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  • jshuffjshuff Members Posts: 102 ✭✭

    I have the same issue and it’s because I hit down on the ball. I’m about to put in some serious simulator time to figure out how to swing up on the driver. I will say that the HZRDUS Yellow shaft helps lower my spin and improves my angle of attack.

  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB) Members Posts: 3,533 ✭✭

    @nsxguy said:

    @rgk5 said:
    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

    Just to be clear, you're saying that, all else being equal, there won't be more than 300 RPM difference between say a Hzrdus T1100 and a Hzrdus Red ? Or a Diamana Red (M+?) and a Diamana White (D+) ?

    How about between different manufacturers ? Say Hzrdus T100 vs Diamana Red/M+ ?

    If you deliver the club with the same good swing, speed, AOA, path and face angle. the result will be within the parameters mentioned. Callaway verified this with their robot and their best staff player, a two time U.S. Open participant who consistently delivers the club at 110 mph. I saw the results using their 150K high speed camera system.

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    Ping G400 hybrids 19*, 22*, Alta 70 R

    Cobra F7 5-GW, R flex steel
    Ping Glide 1.0 55*, CFS Wedge flex

    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 58*, Alta 70 R

    Ping Zing 2 TR 34", Rosemark grip
  • JRL2JRL2 Members Posts: 30 ✭✭

    I am sure you are correct, all things being the same, the shaft will probably have little impact on spin numbers. However, due to the many variances in shaft profiles, weight, etc. this tends to lead to different swings for the average golfer who is not a machine or a professional player with a correct and repeatable swing. I know it does for me at least.

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  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,923 ✭✭

    @jshuff said:
    I have the same issue and it’s because I hit down on the ball. I’m about to put in some serious simulator time to figure out how to swing up on the driver. I will say that the HZRDUS Yellow shaft helps lower my spin and improves my angle of attack.

    Sorry. No, it's not because you hit down on the ball. Low or downward AoA is not the cause of high spin. That thought needs to go the way of the old ball flight laws. High spin primarily comes from either poor impact position on the face and/or a high dynamic loft delivered (hands behind the ball at impact). And for most people that have those problems - it will very commonly just get worse if they try to increase the AoA - particularly w/o proper instruction.

  • gsrjcgsrjc TOC Members Posts: 1,258 ✭✭

    @Deadsquiggles said:
    Mitsubishi Tensei White

    How does this feel? Would it work for a driver swing speed of 102-103?

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    Speaking of the EF T1100, man they cant give those things away on Ebay right now lol. Shocking actually

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    @MSUIRONDAWGS said:
    Speaking of the EF T1100, man they cant give those things away on Ebay right now lol. Shocking actually

    There are so many great new products that something has to be special to stand out, or cheap for the bargain hunters who care more about a "deal" than optimal performance. Either sells.

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  • markheardjrmarkheardjr Member 141..Oh yeah...Snap to youngin! Members Posts: 7,294 ✭✭

    IMO if you want true lower spin you need to go to shafts that are from 10-20 years ago that are rebar Xstiff and heavier. Todays shafts, even the "Low Spin Monster" shafts are not as low spin as the old shafts were. VTLT, ProtoPYPE, Rombax 8Z08, Black Tie X, RIP Alpha, YSQst, p9003, etc. 105mph might not be enough for those shafts though, but I guarantee you'll lose spin with any of those.

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  • spikespike Members Posts: 388 ✭✭

    Kuro Kage XD

  • TriplesticksTriplesticks Members Posts: 110 ✭✭

    Switching heads will do more than any shaft, ie , try the sub zero.

  • carcharodon1977carcharodon1977 Edmonton, AlbertaMembers Posts: 86 ✭✭

    I find the Fujikura Speeder Evolution II TS on the XR 16 Pro to be very low spin. You can probably find a used one with the Callaway adapter for cheap to try.

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  • GMR2ironGMR2iron Members Posts: 1,518 ✭✭

    @markheardjr said:
    IMO if you want true lower spin you need to go to shafts that are from 10-20 years ago that are rebar Xstiff and heavier. Todays shafts, even the "Low Spin Monster" shafts are not as low spin as the old shafts were. VTLT, ProtoPYPE, Rombax 8Z08, Black Tie X, RIP Alpha, YSQst, p9003, etc. 105mph might not be enough for those shafts though, but I guarantee you'll lose spin with any of those.

    I agree with this post 100%! I have bouncing back and forth between Pro Orange and Black Tie in my driver. While the Black Tie doesn't feel as good as the PO, it's spin and launch numbers are equal to the PO, and it seems to mitigate the hooks better!

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  • DeadsquigglesDeadsquiggles Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    @gsrjc said:

    @Deadsquiggles said:
    Mitsubishi Tensei White

    How does this feel? Would it work for a driver swing speed of 102-103?

    Yeah in the appropriate flex, most likely stiff but definitely try it on a launch monitor. I swing between 100 and 105 when it's colder and I'm 105-110 during the warmer months when I'm playing often and can sometimes creep over 110 and the shaft performs great for me year round and holds up well if I go after it on a wide open fairway.

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    Putter: TaylorMade Tour Spider Red 35"
    Ball: Cut Blue or Srixon Z-Star

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