Low spin shafts

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krabboy22krabboy22 Murfreesboro 2WRX Points: 17Handicap: 6Members Posts: 2 Starters
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I have a swing speed of around 105 with driver but I put a lot of spin on the ball hitting epic flash. What’s some good low spinning shafts?

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  • roundersmittyroundersmitty  1109WRX Points: 95Members Posts: 1,109 Platinum Tees
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    Hdzrus Yellow

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    Exotics 16.5* Exotics Fuji 72s
    Adams XTD ti 20* Red Tie S
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  • krabboy22krabboy22 Murfreesboro 2WRX Points: 17Handicap: 6Members Posts: 2 Starters
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    I am currently hitting px evenflow blue 65 xstiff . The hazard yellow lower spin?

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  • kyleluteskylelutes  82WRX Points: 47Members Posts: 82 Fairways
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    Yes, hzrdus yellow should spin a little less.

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  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB)  3778WRX Points: 379Handicap: 6Members Posts: 3,778 Titanium Tees
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    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

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    On -, @krabboy22 said:

    I am currently hitting px evenflow blue 65 xstiff . The hazard yellow lower spin?

    If you like the EvenFlow feel-wise the White T1100 is supposed to be lowest launch/spin of that family. I just put one in a Mizuno GT180 head and am LOVING it so far.

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    Synergy black

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    Look into HOF shafts.

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    Kurt Kate xt
    Also for a slight counter balance feels just like the tense Orange use elements platinum proto it’s a well under rated shaft

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  • DeadsquigglesDeadsquiggles  60WRX Points: 20Members Posts: 60 Bunkers
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    Mitsubishi Tensei White

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    Driver: TaylorMade M4 8.5* with Fujikura Atmos Red (EvenFlow Blue coming soon)
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    Irons: TaylorMade M4 Irons 4-PW with KBS Tours
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 50*, Cleveland RTX 2.0 54*, Cleveland RTX-3 CB 60*
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  • backhillbackhill  114WRX Points: 70Members Posts: 114 Fairways
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    Check out the Big Bad Low Spin shaft thread by TollBros

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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user Florida 6635WRX Points: 1,079Handicap: 8.6Members Posts: 6,635 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @rgk5 said:

    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

    Just to be clear, you're saying that, all else being equal, there won't be more than 300 RPM difference between say a Hzrdus T1100 and a Hzrdus Red ? Or a Diamana Red (M+?) and a Diamana White (D+) ?

    How about between different manufacturers ? Say Hzrdus T100 vs Diamana Red/M+ ?

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    Adams A12 Pro hybrids, 16*, Aldila VS Proto Stiff
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  • jjmurryjjmurry Washington, DC 250WRX Points: 101Handicap: 1.5Members Posts: 250 Greens
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    Also looking to clarify a few things: 1. what are your current spin numbers and other launch numbers? 2. could it be a swing fault based upon your numbers in question 1? Your current shaft should be fine as long as there isn't a swing fault at hand. I know myself that at this point I should not spend another dime on equipment until I fix my release so that I'm not hitting the all low on the face... it's the archer not the arrow!

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    Callaway Epic Flash Subzero 3W - Diamana ZF 75TX
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  • coreyhrcoreyhr Lafferty, Daniel  594WRX Points: 259Handicap: +2.9Members Posts: 594 Golden Tee
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    You’ll have more luck lowering the loft on the adapter or going with a lower lofted head. Not sure what you’re spinning at right now, but you don’t want to be chasing sub-2,000 spin.

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    Tour Edge Exotics CBX 119 13.5* - Evenflow T1100 White 75 6.5
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    On -, @krabboy22 said:

    I have a swing speed of around 105 with driver but I put a lot of spin on the ball hitting epic flash. What’s some good low spinning shafts?

    A lower lofted head before anything else.

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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Odyssey Big 7 Arm Lock or Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • jkim27jkim27 SF Bay Area 134WRX Points: 62Handicap: 7.8Members Posts: 134 Fairways
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    On -, @nsxguy said:

    On -, @rgk5 said:

    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

    Just to be clear, you're saying that, all else being equal, there won't be more than 300 RPM difference between say a Hzrdus T1100 and a Hzrdus Red ? Or a Diamana Red (M+?) and a Diamana White (D+) ?

    How about between different manufacturers ? Say Hzrdus T100 vs Diamana Red/M+ ?

    Yeah definitely don't agree with this one, especially when a human is swinging the club and not a robot. I've had my fair share of experiments and found vastly different numbers depending on the shaft. Yes a lot of it has to do with how you swing it but thats where the shaft makes the biggest difference. I am a high spin player and was getting 3500+ RPM with the EF blue. Knew it didn't fit me but just tried it out for the sake of it. Then went to a HZRDUS black which got me to sub-2000 RPM, but really felt like I had to swing out of my shoes to get the thing to load. Finally settled on an Atmos Black which was way smoother and around 2300 RPM. This was all in the same club head with no intentional swing changes.

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    On -, @Mario Good Times said:

    Kurt Kate xt
    Also for a slight counter balance feels just like the tense Orange use elements platinum proto it’s a well under rated shaft

    The Kuro Kage XD is slightly lower spin than the XT. Was playing a dual core XT TX and just switched to the XD and it lowered the spin by about 300 rpm.

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    Titeist 818h2 19 Atmos Blue
    Srixon z785 KBS Tour V
    Ping Glide Stealth 54/60
    TM Spider Sightline Face Balanced
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  • jshuffjshuff  113WRX Points: 83Members Posts: 113 Fairways
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    I have the same issue and it’s because I hit down on the ball. I’m about to put in some serious simulator time to figure out how to swing up on the driver. I will say that the HZRDUS Yellow shaft helps lower my spin and improves my angle of attack.

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  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB)  3778WRX Points: 379Handicap: 6Members Posts: 3,778 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @nsxguy said:

    On -, @rgk5 said:

    "Little" is the key word. Shafts alone will not decrease spin by more than 250-300 RPM. Proven in many tests by the OEMS, most notably Callaway in May of 2017.

    Just to be clear, you're saying that, all else being equal, there won't be more than 300 RPM difference between say a Hzrdus T1100 and a Hzrdus Red ? Or a Diamana Red (M+?) and a Diamana White (D+) ?

    How about between different manufacturers ? Say Hzrdus T100 vs Diamana Red/M+ ?

    If you deliver the club with the same good swing, speed, AOA, path and face angle. the result will be within the parameters mentioned. Callaway verified this with their robot and their best staff player, a two time U.S. Open participant who consistently delivers the club at 110 mph. I saw the results using their 150K high speed camera system.

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    Ping i25 5-PW, TFC 189 R
    Cobra MIM forged 50*, KBS Hi Rev 125 S
    Ping Glide 1.0 54.5*, CFS Wedge flex

    Ping Eye2+ SW, 57.5*, KTM S
    Super Stroke Soft Wrap Midsize Red Grips
    Taylor Made TP Mullen 2, 35", LH (I'm right handed :p )
  • JRL2JRL2  39WRX Points: 23Members Posts: 39 Bunkers
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    I am sure you are correct, all things being the same, the shaft will probably have little impact on spin numbers. However, due to the many variances in shaft profiles, weight, etc. this tends to lead to different swings for the average golfer who is not a machine or a professional player with a correct and repeatable swing. I know it does for me at least.

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  • Stuart_GStuart_G New Hampshire 24619WRX Points: 1,374Members Posts: 24,619 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @jshuff said:

    I have the same issue and it’s because I hit down on the ball. I’m about to put in some serious simulator time to figure out how to swing up on the driver. I will say that the HZRDUS Yellow shaft helps lower my spin and improves my angle of attack.

    Sorry. No, it's not because you hit down on the ball. Low or downward AoA is not the cause of high spin. That thought needs to go the way of the old ball flight laws. High spin primarily comes from either poor impact position on the face and/or a high dynamic loft delivered (hands behind the ball at impact). And for most people that have those problems - it will very commonly just get worse if they try to increase the AoA - particularly w/o proper instruction.

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    On -, @Deadsquiggles said:

    Mitsubishi Tensei White

    How does this feel? Would it work for a driver swing speed of 102-103?

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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range  4977WRX Points: 295Sponsors Posts: 4,977 Titanium Tees
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    Tensei Pro White
    Tensei Pro Orange
    Aldila ATX Green 2019
    Rogue White 130
    Rogue Silver 130
    Hzrdus T1100
    Even low T-1100
    Hzrdus Black
    Synergy Black
    Synergy Green
    Fujikura Ventus
    Etc........

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    Speaking of the EF T1100, man they cant give those things away on Ebay right now lol. Shocking actually

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    On -, @MSUIRONDAWGS said:

    Speaking of the EF T1100, man they cant give those things away on Ebay right now lol. Shocking actually

    There are so many great new products that something has to be special to stand out, or cheap for the bargain hunters who care more about a "deal" than optimal performance. Either sells.

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  • markheardjrmarkheardjr Member 141..Oh yeah...Snap to youngin!  7356WRX Points: 187Handicap: 3.8Members Posts: 7,356 Titanium Tees
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    IMO if you want true lower spin you need to go to shafts that are from 10-20 years ago that are rebar Xstiff and heavier. Todays shafts, even the "Low Spin Monster" shafts are not as low spin as the old shafts were. VTLT, ProtoPYPE, Rombax 8Z08, Black Tie X, RIP Alpha, YSQst, p9003, etc. 105mph might not be enough for those shafts though, but I guarantee you'll lose spin with any of those.

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    Kuro Kage XD

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    Switching heads will do more than any shaft, ie , try the sub zero.

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    I find the Fujikura Speeder Evolution II TS on the XR 16 Pro to be very low spin. You can probably find a used one with the Callaway adapter for cheap to try.

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    On -, @markheardjr said:

    IMO if you want true lower spin you need to go to shafts that are from 10-20 years ago that are rebar Xstiff and heavier. Todays shafts, even the "Low Spin Monster" shafts are not as low spin as the old shafts were. VTLT, ProtoPYPE, Rombax 8Z08, Black Tie X, RIP Alpha, YSQst, p9003, etc. 105mph might not be enough for those shafts though, but I guarantee you'll lose spin with any of those.

    I agree with this post 100%! I have bouncing back and forth between Pro Orange and Black Tie in my driver. While the Black Tie doesn't feel as good as the PO, it's spin and launch numbers are equal to the PO, and it seems to mitigate the hooks better!

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    On -, @gsrjc said:

    On -, @Deadsquiggles said:

    Mitsubishi Tensei White

    How does this feel? Would it work for a driver swing speed of 102-103?

    Yeah in the appropriate flex, most likely stiff but definitely try it on a launch monitor. I swing between 100 and 105 when it's colder and I'm 105-110 during the warmer months when I'm playing often and can sometimes creep over 110 and the shaft performs great for me year round and holds up well if I go after it on a wide open fairway.

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    Driver: TaylorMade M4 8.5* with Fujikura Atmos Red (EvenFlow Blue coming soon)
    Fairway Wood: TaylorMade M4 3W with Fujikura Atmos Red
    Irons: TaylorMade M4 Irons 4-PW with KBS Tours
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 50*, Cleveland RTX 2.0 54*, Cleveland RTX-3 CB 60*
    Putter: TaylorMade Tour Spider Red 35"
    Ball: Cut Blue or Srixon Z-Star

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