MP-64 to what???

tftimmtftimm SouthTXMembers Posts: 466 ✭✭

I’m a single digit golfer who doesn’t play frequenty. I’ve been playing 64’s with KBS stiff for 6 years, H4 3 iron. I had some 33’s before that and loved them...just wanted some more forgiveness.
Im going tomorrow for the PGASS Van Fitting 1.5hr deal to get fit for irons...have always liked Mizuno’s, so leaning towards MP-18 combo set or some 919 Tour. I like blades in a 6-pw but would need forgiveness in 3-5, maybe even 3-6. Thoughts on the following:

MP-18 HiFli 2-5, MP-18 blades 6-pm...should I slot another MP between hifi and blades?
919 Tour 4-pw, 919 HM 3

I was quickly fitted (in one of the booths last year) for +1”, KBS Lite stiff...we’ll. I want to get all the gaps right, shaft, etc. before I spend the money.

Anyone that has done the same, what do you all think?

Another option is to simply get my 64’s and H4 reshafted, gripped, bent or whatever needs to match my fitting. I wish I could get an H4 4 and 5 iron. The H4’s are underrated in my opinion.

Thanks in advance!

Titleist 913D2 9.5 Fujikura Speeder 757 Evo II stiff
Taylor Made SLDR TP 15.5* Revenge 85 stiff
Titleist 910h 19* Kuro Kage 80HY stiff
MP-18 FliHi 3-5  MP-18 SC 6-pm,  +.5",  KBS Tour R
Mizuno S5 blue ion 58* and 53*
RIFE Barbados SS

Comments

  • LepatriqueLepatrique Members Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Same boat as you, coming off mp64 and played blades previously. New MP line is great, also I found the srixon z forged blades to be incredibly forgiving and very long (too low spin for me). Callaway apex pro a pleasant surprise. Ultimately I fell in love w Miura MC501, cleanest at address, best (to me) feeling and tightest dispersion. But I would be happy moving to any of the others listed above. Good luck!

    TM M1 9.5* Kuro Kage XT70 X
    TM M2 Deep 16.7* Kuro Kage XT80 X
    PXG 0317 19* Kuro Kage 80HY TX
    Mizuno MP64 4-PW C-Taper S
    Vokey SM5 50-55-60 C-Taper S
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2
  • kiw1982kiw1982 Members Posts: 1,170 ✭✭

    I recommend you to try Srixon.
    Soft as old mizzy and very easy to make combo set(easier than mizzy imo)

    Mizuno        ST-180 Driver w/KuroKage HBP 50 S+
    Taylormade  M6 3 Wood w/NV 2KXV Blue 75 S+
    Mizuno        CLK 3 Hybrid w/Tensei CK Blue HY 80 S+(P790 UDI is sitting on the bench)
    Taylormade  P790 4-G Irons w/KBS tour S+
    Mizuno        T7 56/10 Wedge w/KBS tour S+
    Mizuno        S18 60/06 Wedge w/KBS tour S+
    Odyssey      O-Works 1WS Putter
  • roundersmittyroundersmitty Posts: 1,104 ✭✭

    If the faces are in good enough shape to last 5 more years I would get the shafts, grips, lies and lofts done.

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    Exotics 16.5* Exotics Fuji 72s
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  • freeze16172002freeze16172002 Members Posts: 57 ✭✭

    i play 64's love them, had a new in plastic backup set that i sold off to finish a lmt pistol build....

  • dieselmddieselmd Posts: 566 ✭✭


    Careful what you wish for!

  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Members Posts: 2,299 ✭✭

    More 64! Thanks for comments on H4 will go buy one.

    2019 7th March

    Ping G5 10.5
    TM 360 TI 10.5 ($5)
    Ping i 25 3 or 5

    Mizuno MP 63 arriving as new......KBS 110 Regular

    Vokey SM5 50 08 F Old SM at 54 and SM6 58S 10

    Titleist Scotty Mid Slant Pro Platinum at 34 and a Half!

    Sold my MP37 and MP33 after xmas and searched for More Mizuno
    Keen to buy MP69 MP4 MP5 later in 2019 for a Shoot Out or buy them all..
    I Survived 7 weeks with only One Set of Irons !!
  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalPosts: 871 ✭✭

    64’s are still a cut above most “player's clubs”. If the faces are good and they still suit your game, rebuild is very much an option.

    Cobra King F9 Tour Length Speedback 10.5 ATMOS TS Blue 6S 44.25” D5 14g/6g wts
    Cobra King F9 Speedback 4W & 6W ATMOS TS Blue 7S D3
    Miura CB57 4-PW KBS Tour Black Pearl S D5-D7
    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)
    Pro V1X

    Backup/travel: '18 M3 440, M1/M2 FW's, MP-64's and Vokey WedgeWorks 52F, 56V & 60V
  • IamMarkMacIamMarkMac SF Bay AreaPosts: 582 ✭✭

    Although I can understand if you're tired of them, MP-64s are still one of my favorite irons. Fortunately, new shafts and grip can breathe new life into an old set. That's certainly the case for me where I still happily play some of my clubs from 5+ years ago so long as they're fitted the new shaft tech.

    Bag 1                                                                 Bag 2
    Ping G400 LST 10                                             Epon Technicity 9
    Ping G400 3W 14.5                                          TM R9 3W 14
    Ping G400 3H 19                                              Miura 3H 19
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-P               Epon 503 4-P Nippon Super Peening Orange
    Mizuno s18 50, 54, 58                                     Miura 51, 56 k-grind
    Bettinardi BB1                                                  Scotty Cameron Newport 2
  • CptwigglyCptwiggly Members Posts: 12 ✭✭

    I went from MP 59s to Srixon Z585s. I am a single digit handicap but I also don’t get the time to practice like I should. The Srixons really aren’t that much bigger than the MP59s at address. Very similar face size but more forgivness.

  • balls_deepballs_deep Members Posts: 460 ✭✭

    @Cptwiggly said:
    I went from MP 59s to Srixon Z585s. I am a single digit handicap but I also don’t get the time to practice like I should. The Srixons really aren’t that much bigger than the MP59s at address. Very similar face size but more forgivness.

    Important to try out both the 5x5 and 7x5 for your swing. The wider or thinner sole make work better for you. The 5 series is way too chunky on the bottom for me - I'd fat the **** out of it. I need a narrow sole. Forgiveness is swing dependant.

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    Titleist 816H1 20* and 24* w/ Accra FX200H M4
    Titleist AP2 718 4-PW w/ DG AMT Tour White S300
    Vokey SM7 50F.8, 54S.10, 58D.12 S200
    Bettinardi Kuchar Model 1 Armlock 42" & Odyssey O Works 7 35"
    Pro V1x
  • tftimmtftimm SouthTX Members Posts: 466 ✭✭

    Got fitted. Tried Srizon and Callaways...but something about the Mizzy’s. To my surprise, I was fit and felt best with c-Taper lite R-105, +1/2”, std loft/lie. I will get a combo set of 18 hifli 3-5, 6-pm SC. Blades were nice but rhe SC’s were just solid to me, that little touch of forgiveness. The SC looks vwr similar to the 64’s at address. I was never a fan of the 64 short irons, 18Mc’s are nicer.

    I never thought regular shafts, but the numbers and feel don’t lie. I have a smooth 3/4” swing with little lag and a smooth transition. Im also a sweeper, not a digger. I’m planning to get them from DD.

    Fitting experience was great. The guy was very knowledgable and answered all my questions.

    Looking forward to them...

    Titleist 913D2 9.5 Fujikura Speeder 757 Evo II stiff
    Taylor Made SLDR TP 15.5* Revenge 85 stiff
    Titleist 910h 19* Kuro Kage 80HY stiff
    MP-18 FliHi 3-5  MP-18 SC 6-pm,  +.5",  KBS Tour R
    Mizuno S5 blue ion 58* and 53*
    RIFE Barbados SS
  • balls_deepballs_deep Members Posts: 460 ✭✭

    Awesome to hear. Nothing wrong with reg shafts. Jim Furyk uses reg in his irons and I'm quite sure he swings faster/better than I do haha. Good idea doing a combo. I'm considering replacing my AP2 4 and 5 iron with T-MBs. You really just need straight high flights on those irons. The SC were nice. Didn't work numbers wise for me but they're a nice iron.

    Titleist 915D2 10.5 w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60S
    Titleist 917F2 16.5 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 70S
    Titleist 816H1 20* and 24* w/ Accra FX200H M4
    Titleist AP2 718 4-PW w/ DG AMT Tour White S300
    Vokey SM7 50F.8, 54S.10, 58D.12 S200
    Bettinardi Kuchar Model 1 Armlock 42" & Odyssey O Works 7 35"
    Pro V1x
  • shredNECTARshredNECTAR Members Posts: 119 ✭✭

    I have a 2 iron and 3 iron Mizuno mp18 mmc fli-hi’s I’m about to put on bst if interested in combo set. Literally 9.75/10 maybe 30 swings with each. PM me if interested.

  • MelloYelloMelloYello Members Posts: 3,043 ✭✭

    Titleist really made a big jump with their CB line in 716 and 718.

    I used the MP-64 for a couple seasons and proudly stated they were the best irons I'd found to that point. They had that sweet Mizuno feel with increased playability in the long irons compared with traditional blades. That said, I sold them when a shaft change went awry.

    With the purchase of my new 716 CB earlier this year, I think I've finally found something that picks up where those 64's left off. I'll give the edge to the 64 in terms of pure feel but these CB's are noticeably more forgiving and even look a little better in the sort irons, IMHO.

    I had stayed away from CB's in prior lines because I never found them all that forgiving compared with blades, but with the 716, the forgiveness is there in spades. I couldn't recommend their with any more enthusiasm. I love mine.

    Driver: TaylorMade M3 (10.5)
    Hybrid: Tour Edge Exotics E8 (19)
    Irons: Titleist 716 CB (3-Pw)
    Wedges: Vokey SM6 52 (F) / 56 (F) / 60 (S)
    Putter: Nike Method Milled 003
  • balls_deepballs_deep Members Posts: 460 ✭✭

    Yes the 716 is fantastic. I ordered a set to try off of GlobalGolf and unfortunately they were not in the listed condition and had been reshafted by an absolute hack but they were great when I took them out. Close to AP2 in forgiveness and very soft. Great clubs.

    Titleist 915D2 10.5 w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60S
    Titleist 917F2 16.5 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 70S
    Titleist 816H1 20* and 24* w/ Accra FX200H M4
    Titleist AP2 718 4-PW w/ DG AMT Tour White S300
    Vokey SM7 50F.8, 54S.10, 58D.12 S200
    Bettinardi Kuchar Model 1 Armlock 42" & Odyssey O Works 7 35"
    Pro V1x
  • tftimmtftimm SouthTX Members Posts: 466 ✭✭

    I ordered my combo set today from DD’s. I’ll give a solid comparison/review of my 18-SC/FliHi vs my 64/H4 set. I got fitted from my previous KBS Tour shafts S to C-Taper Lite R. I didn’t do a full fitting for my 64’s. I will also go from std length.+1* upright to 1/2” long, std lie.

    Titleist 913D2 9.5 Fujikura Speeder 757 Evo II stiff
    Taylor Made SLDR TP 15.5* Revenge 85 stiff
    Titleist 910h 19* Kuro Kage 80HY stiff
    MP-18 FliHi 3-5  MP-18 SC 6-pm,  +.5",  KBS Tour R
    Mizuno S5 blue ion 58* and 53*
    RIFE Barbados SS
  • PlayfromtheBrainPlayfromtheBrain Members Posts: 156 ✭✭

    I went from 5 years with MP-64 to Miura CB-57. Very happier. Also playing around with some copper epon 302s, which remind me a little more of the 64.

  • sambodoorssambodoors Members Posts: 65 ✭✭

    @PlayfromtheBrain said:
    I went from 5 years with MP-64 to Miura CB-57. Very happier. Also playing around with some copper epon 302s, which remind me a little more of the 64.

    Off topic, but how are the cb-57's in terms of forgiveness?

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  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCalPosts: 871 ✭✭

    I find the 57’s and the 64’s to be equally forgiving. I still occasionally play the 64’s and do play them when traveling. I believe the 57’s feel a little sweeter on center hits and are slightly more forgiving and workable, but I also feel that the sole grind of the 64’s is a truly great and forgiving design.

    Cobra King F9 Tour Length Speedback 10.5 ATMOS TS Blue 6S 44.25” D5 14g/6g wts
    Cobra King F9 Speedback 4W & 6W ATMOS TS Blue 7S D3
    Miura CB57 4-PW KBS Tour Black Pearl S D5-D7
    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)
    Pro V1X

    Backup/travel: '18 M3 440, M1/M2 FW's, MP-64's and Vokey WedgeWorks 52F, 56V & 60V
  • PlayfromtheBrainPlayfromtheBrain Members Posts: 156 ✭✭

    @sambodoors said:

    @PlayfromtheBrain said:
    I went from 5 years with MP-64 to Miura CB-57. Very happier. Also playing around with some copper epon 302s, which remind me a little more of the 64.

    Off topic, but how are the cb-57's in terms of forgiveness?

    I meant "much happier". Anyway, like SwingBlade said, forgivenes is about equal. You need to be able to hit both of them pretty close to the sweet spot or neither are going to be fun to play. Sweet spot strikes (want to say "center" but the sweet spot, i have found, is closer to the heel) on the 57 feel more solid than soft like the 64, and I prefer that feeling. Turf interaction with both is excellent, but I give the edge to the Miuras, nothing else like it when sliding through the ground. I like the more squared off toe of the CB-57 as well.

    I think I'll always own Mizuno irons. They are great clubs. Once I hit the CB-57, though, I really had no choice. They're just better. For me, at least. You can't make a wrong decision with your taste in irons unless you struggle with contact.

  • Albatross71Albatross71 Members Posts: 115 ✭✭

    MP-18's are great clubs, and would have been my suggestion or see if you could get a set of MP-5's

    Driver-Titleist TS3 9.5* w/Project X Evenflow White 65 X-Stiff
    3W-Ping i3 15* w/Harrison Pro 1.8
    Mizuno MMC Fli-Hi 3 iron w/KBS C-Taper 130X (bent to 17.5*)
    4-PW Mizuno MP-18 MBw/KBS C-Taper 130X
    Mizuno T7 52/09 w/KBS C-Taper 130X soft stepped
    Mizuno T7 56/10 w/KBS C-Taper 130X soft stepped
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  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,177 ClubWRX

    @tftimm said:
    I ordered my combo set today from DD’s. I’ll give a solid comparison/review of my 18-SC/FliHi vs my 64/H4 set. I got fitted from my previous KBS Tour shafts S to C-Taper Lite R. I didn’t do a full fitting for my 64’s. I will also go from std length.+1* upright to 1/2” long, std lie.

    Not surprised at all you fit into CTL reg. Very stable and it must be giving you the best ball flight with that head. If you were fitting for something like a Hot Metal, might need heavier to get best flight.

    I bet you will enjoy the feel of them. Don’t fear going after it. CTL is a shaft I have played in a couple of sets and it is one of my two KBS choices, the other being the S Taper.

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    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
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