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  • PowerFade36PowerFade36 Members  61WRX Points: 51Posts: 61 Bunkers
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    -4 on Sunday, finishes T6, horrible mechanics and all.

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  • gunmetalgunmetal IdahoMembers  1932WRX Points: 186Posts: 1,932 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @KRAMER1997 said:

    I hate to say it but Spieth's not breaking 73 tomorrow.

    Solid 67. Albeit with a stupid amount of putts (21) but that's part of the game. Pretty cool. Hopefully he keeps it going.

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  • KRAMER1997KRAMER1997 Members  307WRX Points: 250Posts: 307 Greens
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    On -, @gunmetal said:

    On -, @KRAMER1997 said:

    I hate to say it but Spieth's not breaking 73 tomorrow.

    Solid 67. Albeit with a stupid amount of putts (21) but that's part of the game. Pretty cool. Hopefully he keeps it going.

    Nice round today, but he putted lights out today. He only hit 19 greens the last 36 holes, and if he keeps on hitting it like that he's not winning anytime soon.

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    On -, @KRAMER1997 said:

    On -, @gunmetal said:

    On -, @KRAMER1997 said:

    I hate to say it but Spieth's not breaking 73 tomorrow.

    Solid 67. Albeit with a stupid amount of putts (21) but that's part of the game. Pretty cool. Hopefully he keeps it going.

    Nice round today, but he putted lights out today. He only hit 19 greens the last 36 holes, and if he keeps on hitting it like that he's not winning anytime soon.

    He's almost always putted lights out though and I don't think even he is expecting to win right now. Better signs but still too early to read too much into it.

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    Maybe its the T100's fault.....just sayin......well, his season came to a horrific end once again....maybe he has peaked and this is who he really is??? I thought he would win and comeback strong....boy was I wrong.....hopefully we see him in the winners circle when the season restarts but I'm not hopeful after this year.....where are you Jordan?????

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    Well, he has time before the silly season starts. He should really go to work. The game tee to green has just been way inconsistent. The short game has been solid and the putter streaky as putters always are.
    I think that YJS is close but he might be at a crossroad between what people want him to be or becoming a cash machine like a Kuchar.

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    I can't see his competitive fire allow him to be "like Kuchar" anytime soon. Seems like the type where his quest for perfection will not really lead to any sort of consistency, not anytime soon at least.

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  • agolf1agolf1 Members  1994WRX Points: 1,150Posts: 1,994 Platinum Tees
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    Interesting that he's now gone two "seasons" without a win. Phil never had a two-year gap until he got old. Rory's younger but hasn't gone two years yet either. Not sure about Tiger; he had 2010-2011but he didn't play a full schedule then due to personal and health issues.

    In terms of the future, I guess it doesn't really matter that the drought is at two seasons though. Will be interesting to see what his fall season looks like. I kind of assumed some of his fall play last year was due to not playing enough events during the season. Don't know if he'll try to work through it at some of the lesser events or just disappear until next year.

    Also wonder about any changes to the team (seems like instructor most likely) or if he continues to give it a go as is for another season...

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    Jordan's biggest problem atm is that the aura is gone. The 2 years wasn't just without a win but with the kind of performances that created tons of scar tissue. He's pretty much damaged goods mentally even if he can still play a decent round like 67 with 21 putts. But you can't win tournaments with it.

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    It all seemed to start as his hair improved.

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    On -, @johnseg said:

    It all seemed to start as his hair improved.

    Reverse Sampson syndrome ?

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  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, ScotlandMembers  3390WRX Points: 1,202Posts: 3,390 Titanium Tees
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    This off season is huge for Jordan, he needs to sort out the driver.

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    On -, @OldTomMorris said:

    This off season is huge for Jordan, he needs to sort out the driver.

    Is that easy?

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    On -, @gvogel said:

    On -, @OldTomMorris said:

    This off season is huge for Jordan, he needs to sort out the driver.

    Is that easy?

    Maybe.
    Maybe not.

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    On -, @North Texas said:

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    This off season is huge for Jordan, he needs to sort out the driver.

    Is that easy?

    Maybe.
    Maybe not.

    I doubt it's easy or he'd have surely sorted it by now. I'm sure it's easier to address in an off season. I still believe there is enough signs to be optimistic.
    Golf is more exciting with Spieth competing at the top of the leaderboard so for that reason alone I hope he returns sooner rather than later.

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  • disco111disco111 Members  1296WRX Points: 379Handicap: 7Posts: 1,296 Platinum Tees
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    Just like many that have posted, we are all just guessing at what is wrong...........But regardless of what is wrong, if a tour pro with a posse of supporters can't correct a problem in a 2 year time frame, what ever it may be, swing, clubs, head, then I'm going out on a limb and saying that as far as being a winner on tour again - "ain't gonna happen". Now in honesty, I'm also hoping for that reverse psychology to kick in after that statement.........

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    Caddy change next season?

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    On -, @thevaporz said:

    Caddy change next season?

    If that will get rid of the two way miss with the driver, then he should do it.

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    Game really not looking much better through these first couple of tournaments. Just so many bogies or worse.

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    On -, @disco111 said:

    Just like many that have posted, we are all just guessing at what is wrong...........But regardless of what is wrong, if a tour pro with a posse of supporters can't correct a problem in a 2 year time frame, what ever it may be, swing, clubs, head, then I'm going out on a limb and saying that as far as being a winner on tour again - "ain't gonna happen". Now in honesty, I'm also hoping for that reverse psychology to kick in after that statement.........

    Well Tiger had worse issues and didn't win for a few years and he's doing OK. Not saying YJS is Tiger, but he did start out like him. Maybe he should try working out. Getting more muscle will change his swing and give him more distance. Either he will win again or he'll be out of the tour.

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    The biggest problem is everyone EXPECTS Spieth to win and win often because of the unbelievable run he had in 15. Golf is hard.

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    Really hope to see him back in the winners circle at some point soon. The memories of the way that he burst onto the scene was so impressive and good to watch, that it would be good to see him getting back to some of that.

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    On -, @Golfjack said:

    On -, @disco111 said:

    Just like many that have posted, we are all just guessing at what is wrong...........But regardless of what is wrong, if a tour pro with a posse of supporters can't correct a problem in a 2 year time frame, what ever it may be, swing, clubs, head, then I'm going out on a limb and saying that as far as being a winner on tour again - "ain't gonna happen". Now in honesty, I'm also hoping for that reverse psychology to kick in after that statement.........

    Well Tiger had worse issues and didn't win for a few years and he's doing OK. Not saying YJS is Tiger, but he did start out like him. Maybe he should try working out. Getting more muscle will change his swing and give him more distance. Either he will win again or he'll be out of the tour.

    Not really a valid comparison. Tiger has/had major health issues, which morphed into an additional problem, but Jordan, as far as we know, does not have any health issues. Jordan apparently, attempted to transform his game via swing/grip changes and really has kind of "shot himself in the foot", as the saying goes. As of late, he seems to be making a modicum of progress, but the distance he still has to go to regain what was, seems to be far from close. As for working out and gaining more muscle, that unto itself it not a cure all, in fact it could very well have a negative impact. Comparing Tiger to anybody is not relevant. Tigers mental fortitude and work ethic, is so far above the norm, that it's highly doubtful that anyone on tour today, can even come close to shouting distance of what he has over came and accomplished.

    The an old saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", jumps out here for Jordan and apparently it fell on deaf ears. It was either Ben Hogan or Sam Sneed that said, "ya gotta dance with the one that brung ya" and that falls in line with ain't broke - don't fix...........

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    He continues to struggle with short putt yips. It's all mental.

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    On -, @lawsonman said:

    The biggest problem is everyone EXPECTS Spieth to win and win often because of the unbelievable run he had in 15. Golf is hard.

    No the biggest problem is he hasn't won since July 2017.

    That is bad for any top 10 caliber player. To go ~28 months without winning when you're not injured.

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    On -, @thevaporz said:

    He continues to struggle with short putt yips. It's all mental.

    He should experiment with carrying 2 putters: the 009 for longer putts and a very stable mallet inside 6 feet.

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    Jordan: "Three lifetimes!" ? Perhaps he was referring to Trevino's(29 wins) or Miller's(25 wins) careers.

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    Three lifetimes is his estimate on how long it would take anyone to break that record. I’m not sure what the question is ?

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    Didn't Jordan start hitting the ball like garbage after switching to the TS2 driver? I'm not joking either he went from 50th in strokes gained off the tee in 2018 switched in November that year and then became ranked 176th!! Driving accuracy went from 61% down to 53%... Okay yes his iron game fell apart too, but I'm pretty sure it happened after.

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    Just a personal observation, about a generality of the game. I'm fairly sure that most, if not all would agree with the following.................The game starts with the long club (driver) and then reduces club selection proportionately based on distance. If you can't get the ball onto the short grass (fairway) the bulk of the rest of the game suffers exponentially. Granted, there are times when other aspects of your game came render assistance, but those aspects can and will come under stress and not hold up with the needed longevity. So looking at Jordan's fall from success, it does look like his driver is the main culprit. Looking back at past performances, when he was in contention and the back 9 driver on at least 2 or 3 holes, he just flat out hit the driver bad. I really can't fault the club itself, so it has to be the thought process at the time of address. On the shots that come to mind, it looks as though he just tried to hit it harder and just over swung and either pull hooked or left the face open and went deep right. Either direction with that club and his chance for recovery under pressure looking for that win, just escalates the problem and he woefully falls short. My personal opinion for him, would be to leave the driver in the locker and play the 3 wood, find the fairways, hit the greens easier from the fairway and take the pressure off the putter, to be constantly having to bail him out.

    His last round with 21 putts and shoots a 67 should be a major wake up call. If fairways and greens with 21 putts could have possibly been a new course record or even a PGA lowest round ever..........Just ponder that for a moment..

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