Honesty it’s because they don’t put the money into marketing like the Taylormade and Callaway’s do. I would not go off of Golf Digests lists. Instead I’d recommend checking out TXG on YouTube, best channel out there!
My favorite YouTube channel. I wish I could get fitted there.
I previously posted 785's best irons Ive ever played. I bought a set in mint condition from a guy on this site who had custom order from srixon. Ive been playing them for 4-5 months and last month head comes off 5 iron while teeing off on par 3. No biggie I get it repaired at my club. Today Im tapping my 6 iron on ground while waiting for group to clear green coincidently on same par 3 and it sounded like a broken bat sound. I twist head right off. Wondering if anyone has had issues, I played TM rocket blade tours for 6 years and prior to that mp60 mizunos and have never had this happen. Doesn't change my opinion of clubs but am miffed that this happened with fairly new clubs.
My guess is they were poorly reshafted at some point. I had this happen to a set of mp 18s that I bought second hand.
Were the clubs exposed to extreme temperatures, e.g. in the trunk? My brother in law always leaves his clubs in the trunk, after winter he started to have similar issues. I guess epoxy lost its properties, crystalized or whatsoever
I had that happen years ago with KBS shafts. I had heard there were some quality control issues at the time with KBS. I’m talking 10ish years ago. 3 clubs out of the same set.
Could it be a bad batch of shafts?
these are 6.0 rifles, The guy I bought from sent me receipt from srixon with the specs so it wasn't like they were reshafted. Custom order through Srixon. I do leave in my truck at night a lot. But Weather at night 40-50 in the 70 daytime so doubt thats the issue. I will probably end up getting rest of set reopoxyed for peace of mind.
Looking for a set in X-flex
Finally got the opportunity to test and be fitted into the z785 irons today. Turf interaction and forgiveness exceeded my expectations. Blown away by the performance and feel. 718 AP2s are now history :)
I’ve had my set for about 2 months now, and played maybe 6 rounds so far. I know that not long term and probably still in the honeymoon phase but I really like them. They are very consistent and accurate. I have them with PXLZ 6.5 and I’m hitting more greens then ever, also the AW is deadly. Fe and looks are top notch, I’ve not noticed any issues with spin though I’m typically a high ball hitter and play higher spinning balls (prov1, z star).
Im really looking forward to having these in the bag for awhile!
How do you find the launch being a high launch swinger?
I find the launch high but controllable.
I did the shaft optimizer at my fitting, it recommended PXLZ 6.5, PX 6.5 or X100. The LZ launched 2 yds higher than the PX but dispersion was better. I’m thinking feel wise I could have gone PX 6.0 and been fine but I really liked the feel of the LZ.
I don’t have to hit them low very often but can if needed. Also, FTR, I haven’t had any spin issues with these irons. Most times when I hit the green the ball is within a few feet if not closer to the ball mark. Now I don’t spin back an 8i like some but I’ll take the ball hitting and being fairly close to the pitch mark.
Been able to game these for 10 or more rounds so far this season. I ordered them 1* upright which was a mistake but I'll get to that in a moment. Overall, these irons are so good. From the minute I demo'd them and any time I'm in a launch monitor, the dispersion is tighter, consistent distance numbers, and great forgiveness. In my rounds, I've never noticed them putting less spin or hitting overall lower balls. If I do, it's because of the swing/strike. After so many rounds I was finally convinced that they were way too upright and needed to get lies adjusted. Here's what I have now
Iron / loft / lie
4i / 22 / 60.5
5i / 25 / 61
6i / 28 / 61.5
7i / 32 / 62
8i / 36 / 62.5
9i / 41 / 63
PW / 46 / 63.5
The shop says you typically have increments of .5 on lie throughout the set. This was not the case for the stock specs and I sort of saw this even from the beginning. Even tho they were more upright, some irons just looked off and it was random ones. In some cases, the new iron was bent 1.5* lower but everything blends together from 4 through PW now. Loft was only tweaked on a few irons to have proper gapping. I got fresh midsize z cord grips on them and now I can pull any club out my bag, set it on the ground, and it looks perfect.
I could easily see myself playing these irons for several years at this point.
Mizuno ST190HL w/ Ventus Blue 6x
Tour Edge Exotic 220 Hybrid 3 w/ Oban Devotion 8 05
Tour Edge Exotic 220 Hybrid 5 w/ Oban Devotion 8 05
Srixon z785 4-PW w/ x100
Mizuno T20 52 w/ s400
Taylormade Milled 56/60 w/ s400
Special Select NP2
Ball: Srixon XV
Grip: Midsize Z-grip
All of my sets have been one degree weak from 4-9 and standard PW which has worked great. Also play mine flat and they are fantastic.
785's are FABULOUS irons - have loved mine ever since moving from my 745's which were almost as good. I haven't found an iron that can beat them as far as I'm concerned. If I had only one criticism, I hope the next generation has less offset, so it's easier to fade them. Partly my natural swing but also partly the heads - I can hardly fade these irons to save my life and I need to be able to work it both ways.
I have an easier time fading the 745 for some reason. I've worked a lot on moving my path a bit more neutral or even out to in over winter and I've found them to be much easier in that sense. Generally hit a draw with the 785. Great clubs. I do think that's part of the spin thing with Srixons as well. Easy to turn over.
I could fade the 745's better as well. 785's definitely spin on the lower end for forged blades but I haven't experienced any downside as a result. Quite the opposite, very penetrating iron shots especially into the wind with great trajectory and nice hold on the greens. As a result, I hit these forged blades further than all others I've played (not necessarily what you're looking for when playing forged blades but nice to know its there when I need to step on it). My path is definitely in-to-out but these irons are the hardest to fade that I've played - even when I neutralize my path or even swipe out-to-in (because of the offset, I believe). I think less offset will do the trick so hope they take that into account with the next gen to perfect this awesome iron.
Would you consider the 7 series to be closer to blades than players cavity?
I have played a lot of different irons and find my 765s are as forgiving as my old ap2.
TS2 8.5 with Aldila Rogue 125 70TX
SIM 15 Degree Tensei Pro Blue 80TX tipped 1.5 inches
3 HMB Project X 6.5
4-5 Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Project X 6.5
6-PW Mizuno JPX 919 Forged Project X 6.5
50,54,58: Titleist SM7 Project X 6.5
2020 Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2
Srixon Z star XV
Ogio Alpha Convoy RTC Stand Bag
These are supposed to be player cavity irons...the Z Forged is Srixon's "blade" iron although it's probably more forgiving that other blades.
They are categorized as a players cavity. I played many of the Mizuno MP blades since playing competitive junior golf, as well as over the past couple of decades, and the 785's are as thin (face to back of the head) as most of them but more forgiving than all of them (a little longer heel to toe). They are also Endo forged which is the best forging around! So yes, they are blade like in feel/performance and, appearance at address, with great forgiveness (partly because of the cavity). The best of both worlds in my opinion. Meaning, they can hold their own against a pure forged blade like a Miura in regards to feel/performance/appearance and equally, hold their own competing against a pure cavity back iron in forgiveness.
I tried a set for about 3 months and eventually went back to my 745s. The blades look a little longer than the 745s and the soles are definitely thinner. I really liked the thicker sole of the 745s especially with the dual bounce. Our course is often wet and into the grain can get a little dicey with the 785s. Can easily work them both ways. My 745s are a few years old and show a little wear, so I found a mint set for an incredibly reasonable price and grabbed them. I don’t think there is a better iron out right now and have no intentions of moving away from Srixon. As far as I’m concerned - they are the best out.
Tour Issue Callaway Rogue 10.5 TPT 15 MKP MT SW
Cleveland HiBore XLS 3 Wood Diamana Whiteboard Flowerband X Flex
Srixon U45 2 Iron Nippon Pro Modus 130 X
Srixon Z745 4-P X100s
Cleveland Tour Action 588 Tour Action Wedges Tour ZIP Grooves (Legal) 49, 54, 60
TaylorMade Spider T-Line Tour Putter
The 745 are my on non-sellable set. I've got a set of soft stepped TI X100 in them and despite the shaft feeling a touch softer than I'd like they just flat out work. I always hoe - have a set of raw Apex MB with TI X100 on the way. I'll likely keep and play both but the 745 are just PURE. Tried another set for a few rounds and did alright. Went back to the 745 and fired off a PB +1 73 in 25mph wind. They're just so accurate and perfect in every way.
I scooped up a combo set 4-6 z785 / 7-PW zforged. One round and new I had to get the lofts and lies adjusted so they sat in my closet for months. I finally took them to a club fitter and had them all put to my specs. No surprise they where all out of whack. Some where 4 degrees strong and upright he said. Anyway took them out and shot a 75 with no issues. The ball flew nice and straight and had great spin for me to trust firing at pins. Nice set of irons after getting my specs adjusted.
How did they feel compared to your Apex MB Raw? Seems we have similar taste in irons haha
I think it is safe to say the Apex Mb raw feel amazing when struck well. Honestly apex feel much better, but when not struck well. the Srixon's both z785/zforged, are very forgiving. I really had no loss of distance from small off center strikes.. the apex mb's, well they are demanding. the srixons do feel nice and maybe its the modus 120 shaft, but i will be gaming the srixons for the next time i get out and see if the love continues. The overall head size is much larger on the srixon. that always brings in more confidence if you get a little wild.
Thanks for the run down! I’ll likely have some thoughts in this thread next week comparing forgiveness levels
I've had a set of 785/Z Forged for a little over a year and I've loved them. Recently a buddy purchased a full set of 785s and I was able to try them out for a few rounds. I noticed a difference in the forgiveness of the short irons that are Z Forged in my current set. I decided to order a full set of 785s with $ Taper (current shaft is C Taper Lite). It's taking a bit to get them since $ Taper is considered exotic (free upgraded but guessing that means they don't have those shafts on hand). While I feel the Z Forged are definitely more forgiving than traditional "blades" I can see the benefit of a little extra forgiveness for myself.
Z forged are absolutely beautiful, but why? The 7 series are so good. Last time I checked Srixon staffers were using the 7 series 4 to 1 vs the 9 series or Z forged. Matsuyama being the most well known exception. But JB Holmes - 785, Graeme McDowell - 745, Keegan Bradley - 745, Shane Lowry - 785, Martin Laird - 785, Ernie - 785.
Ping G410+ 9*, Tensei Pro Orange
Adams XTD Ti 17*, Fubuki
Apex 20*, AD DI 85
Srixon U85 23*, AD DI 95
Srixon 585 5-6, Nippon 120
Srixon 785 7-PW, Nippon 120
Ping Glide 3.0 52*, Nippon 120
TM Hi Toe 56*&60*, Nippon 120
I got blinded by the beauty and at least wanted a mixed set lol. Now that I've had them for over a year I'm good...ready for a little more forgiveness.
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