Business NC's top NC courses

bermudabermuda Members Posts: 806 ✭✭

Business NC's latest top 100 and other rankings are out. No significant surprises. The Triangle is well represented.

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  • NCLancerNCLancer from Northern New York to The Triangle Members Posts: 195 ✭✭

    Thanks for sharing. Having no affiliations with any private courses I find the Top 50 You Can Play very interesting. I've played 10 of them and look to check off a few more every year.

  • razor_1razor_1 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭

    Funny that Tobacco Rd is not in the top 100. I agree with that. Mid-Pines is not rated high enough, IMO. #2 course in Pinehurst/Southern Pines area behind #2. Better course than it's sister Pine Needles and any other course down the road (except #2).

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  • flip flappyflip flappy Members Posts: 915 ✭✭

    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

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  • QC HeelQC Heel Members Posts: 73 ✭✭

    Mountaintop, Quail Hollow, and Old North State being ahead of Charlotte CC, Old Town, and Wade Hampton tells you all that you need to know about that list.

  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,706 ✭✭

    Tanglewood Championship not on the list. Crap list!

  • AppAlumAppAlum Members Posts: 746 ✭✭

    @caniac6 said:
    Tanglewood Championship not on the list. **** list!

    It’s in the public top 50 but not the overall top 100. It’s all good though. Give it a year and golfers who haven’t seen it in awhile will be blown away. However to be honest, it did pi$$ me off a little to be behind some of the courses ahead of it.

  • bermudabermuda Members Posts: 806 ✭✭

    @flip flappy said:
    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

    It has been on the list and was in a couple of the subcategories. I wonder if the fact it still doesn't have a permanent clubhouse after being open about 10 years is a factor. And sometimes the bunkers get washed out. But it's my favorite course in the area. I couldn't believe Brook Valley in Greenville made the list. Last time I played there about 10 years ago I swore I would never waste my money or time there again; the "greens" were awful, tees were bad, and the layout is so tight you about have to use 5-iron to tee off on about a third of the holes that aren't par-3s. McConnell must have made some big strides there.

  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,706 ✭✭

    @AppAlum said:

    @caniac6 said:
    Tanglewood Championship not on the list. **** list!

    It’s in the public top 50 but not the overall top 100. It’s all good though. Give it a year and golfers who haven’t seen it in awhile will be blown away. However to be honest, it did pi$$ me off a little to be behind some of the courses ahead of it.

    I used to work at Forsyth CC, and it is always in great shape, but Tanglewood is a much better course.

  • flip flappyflip flappy Members Posts: 915 ✭✭

    @bermuda said:

    @flip flappy said:
    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

    It has been on the list and was in a couple of the subcategories. I wonder if the fact it still doesn't have a permanent clubhouse after being open about 10 years is a factor. And sometimes the bunkers get washed out. But it's my favorite course in the area. I couldn't believe Brook Valley in Greenville made the list. Last time I played there about 10 years ago I swore I would never waste my money or time there again; the "greens" were awful, tees were bad, and the layout is so tight you about have to use 5-iron to tee off on about a third of the holes that aren't par-3s. McConnell must have made some big strides there.

    Cutter Creek finally opened there clubhouse although it is not anything spectacular. It's about the same size as the house they were using as the temp club house. I do like playing there as it is never crowded. Greens are usually pretty fast and and in great shape. I will have to say their homemade toasted Pimento cheese and bacon sandwich is the best I have ever eaten also!

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  • razor_1razor_1 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭

    @bermuda said:

    @flip flappy said:
    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

    It has been on the list and was in a couple of the subcategories. I wonder if the fact it still doesn't have a permanent clubhouse after being open about 10 years is a factor. And sometimes the bunkers get washed out. But it's my favorite course in the area. I couldn't believe Brook Valley in Greenville made the list. Last time I played there about 10 years ago I swore I would never waste my money or time there again; the "greens" were awful, tees were bad, and the layout is so tight you about have to use 5-iron to tee off on about a third of the holes that aren't par-3s. McConnell must have made some big strides there.

    Brook Valley should not be on the list. It's an ok course but not close to Cutter Creek, Belmont Lake or Bienvenue. It's not even as nice as Ironwood (and I don't like Lee Trevino or Ironwood).

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  • dont rory be happydont rory be happy Members Posts: 77 ✭✭

    No Tobacco Rd?!

  • bermudabermuda Members Posts: 806 ✭✭

    @flip flappy said:

    @bermuda said:

    @flip flappy said:
    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

    It has been on the list and was in a couple of the subcategories. I wonder if the fact it still doesn't have a permanent clubhouse after being open about 10 years is a factor. And sometimes the bunkers get washed out. But it's my favorite course in the area. I couldn't believe Brook Valley in Greenville made the list. Last time I played there about 10 years ago I swore I would never waste my money or time there again; the "greens" were awful, tees were bad, and the layout is so tight you about have to use 5-iron to tee off on about a third of the holes that aren't par-3s. McConnell must have made some big strides there.

    Cutter Creek finally opened there clubhouse although it is not anything spectacular. It's about the same size as the house they were using as the temp club house. I do like playing there as it is never crowded. Greens are usually pretty fast and and in great shape. I will have to say their homemade toasted Pimento cheese and bacon sandwich is the best I have ever eaten also!

    They opened a clubhouse of modular units, but it's not the multi-story brick clubhouse beside the lake on 18 that they had a rendering of. It's more a golf shop and grill than a clubhouse. I hope they keep making strides because it is a great course.

  • bermudabermuda Members Posts: 806 ✭✭

    @razor_1 said:

    @bermuda said:

    @flip flappy said:
    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

    It has been on the list and was in a couple of the subcategories. I wonder if the fact it still doesn't have a permanent clubhouse after being open about 10 years is a factor. And sometimes the bunkers get washed out. But it's my favorite course in the area. I couldn't believe Brook Valley in Greenville made the list. Last time I played there about 10 years ago I swore I would never waste my money or time there again; the "greens" were awful, tees were bad, and the layout is so tight you about have to use 5-iron to tee off on about a third of the holes that aren't par-3s. McConnell must have made some big strides there.

    Brook Valley should not be on the list. It's an ok course but not close to Cutter Creek, Belmont Lake or Bienvenue. It's not even as nice as Ironwood (and I don't like Lee Trevino or Ironwood).

    Have you been to Brook Valley lately? Just wondering if there have been any major changes. Again, with my limited time and budget, I'm heading to Cutter Creek when I play.

  • ncgolfer1234ncgolfer1234 Members Posts: 9 ✭✭

    @QC Heel said:
    Mountaintop, Quail Hollow, and Old North State being ahead of Charlotte CC, Old Town, and Wade Hampton tells you all that you need to know about that list.

    Bingo. Those are all top 5 courses in the state. I think the most absurd ranking on the list is Linville GC at 33.

  • razor_1razor_1 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭

    @bermuda said:

    @razor_1 said:

    @bermuda said:

    @flip flappy said:
    I think Cutter Creek at Snow Hill is a course that should be in the top 100 of NC courses. An underrated hidden gem IMHO.

    It has been on the list and was in a couple of the subcategories. I wonder if the fact it still doesn't have a permanent clubhouse after being open about 10 years is a factor. And sometimes the bunkers get washed out. But it's my favorite course in the area. I couldn't believe Brook Valley in Greenville made the list. Last time I played there about 10 years ago I swore I would never waste my money or time there again; the "greens" were awful, tees were bad, and the layout is so tight you about have to use 5-iron to tee off on about a third of the holes that aren't par-3s. McConnell must have made some big strides there.

    Brook Valley should not be on the list. It's an ok course but not close to Cutter Creek, Belmont Lake or Bienvenue. It's not even as nice as Ironwood (and I don't like Lee Trevino or Ironwood).

    Have you been to Brook Valley lately? Just wondering if there have been any major changes. Again, with my limited time and budget, I'm heading to Cutter Creek when I play.

    Not since the new ownership took over and they belong to the network. I heard it got really bad now they are trying to get it back up. I did play Greenville CC not very long ago, nice facility but on the wrong side of the railroad tracks. Not long for this world I fear. Course is only 6300 from the back tees. Went over and looked at Ironwood. Still have bent greens. Don't like that course but it is still better than Brook Valley. The best "course" in Greenville (believe or not) is Bradford Creek (design wise). I don't think that course is long for this world either. Billy Casper Golf has a bad habit of running courses under and the city council doesn't want it anymore

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  • bermudabermuda Members Posts: 806 ✭✭

    ^Good observations. Sounds like you live in the area. Agree with all you said. Ironwood is too wet, especially down by the river. If Bradford Creek had the money to switch to bermuda greens, fix the bunkers and just do general maintenance, it could be a nice course. It was those things when it opened under private ownership, but headed downhill when the city bought it. With its propensity to flood, it's not good for much other than going back to farmland.

  • razor_1razor_1 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭

    @bermuda said:
    ^Good observations. Sounds like you live in the area. Agree with all you said. Ironwood is too wet, especially down by the river. If Bradford Creek had the money to switch to bermuda greens, fix the bunkers and just do general maintenance, it could be a nice course. It was those things when it opened under private ownership, but headed downhill when the city bought it. With its propensity to flood, it's not good for much other than going back to farmland.

    I've pretty much played almost every course east of 95 from Duck to Wilmington. I have not played the Palmer course in Edenton. Along with Tanglewood, that's on my short-term bucket list. The Ross muni in Wilmington is outstanding. It was redone but you can still tell it's a Ross course. If your looking for a decent eastern NC place to play other than what was mentioned, give Lane Tree a shot in Goldsboro. Next to a river so it floods also. Wilson CC is also open to the public. I haven't played it but have heard it was very nice.

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  • PeteNCPeteNC Members Posts: 84 ✭✭

    My take having played 40% of them.

    Underrated
    Tobacco Road - Not on the list, should be about 20th
    TPC Piper Glen - Not on the list, would have about 40th
    Tanglewood - Not on the list, would have about 50th

    Overrated
    High Point(Willow Creek) - wouldn't have in top 100
    Old North State - good but not a top 10.
    Trump National - Nice but not the 23rd best, more like 70th
    MacGregor Downs - wouldn't have in top 100

  • MichiganManMichiganMan HAIL TO THE VICTORS! GO BLUE! Winston-Salem, NCMembers Posts: 1,600 ✭✭

    Based on the "Top 50 You Can Play" list
    Overrated:
    No 8 - WAYY overrated golf course...without Pinehurst attached to the name it's a middling course IMO
    UNC Finley - well conditioned but the course is nothing special
    Legacy Links - again, it's nice but shouldn't be in the 30s
    Forest Oaks - an absolute joke it's in the Top 50....wouldn't pay $20 to play here based on the condition of the golf course

    Underrated:
    Bryan Park - should be ahead of both UNC and No 8 IMO...probably should be pushing the top 10
    Tanglewood - I assume they haven't taken the redesign into consideration because again, it's much better than both Finley and No 8

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  • QC HeelQC Heel Members Posts: 73 ✭✭

    Country Club of Landfall (Dye) is on there twice. Guess they had trouble deciding if that was the 29th or 30th best course.

    And Carolina Golf Club at 94. I mean...no. Not even close. That course is outstanding. They just co-hosted the US Mid-Am!

  • razor_1razor_1 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭

    @MichiganMan said:
    Based on the "Top 50 You Can Play" list
    Overrated:
    No 8 - WAYY overrated golf course...without Pinehurst attached to the name it's a middling course IMO
    UNC Finley - well conditioned but the course is nothing special
    Legacy Links - again, it's nice but shouldn't be in the 30s
    Forest Oaks - an absolute joke it's in the Top 50....wouldn't pay $20 to play here based on the condition of the golf course

    Underrated:
    Bryan Park - should be ahead of both UNC and No 8 IMO...probably should be pushing the top 10
    Tanglewood - I assume they haven't taken the redesign into consideration because again, it's much better than both Finley and No 8

    That's why course ratings are a lot like rating blondes vs. brunettes. I love #8. Always have. I think UNC Finley is a fantastic course. Can't say much about UNC, but I do like their golf course. Duke and NC States courses are just as nice, imo. I absolutely can't stand Tobacco Road, a ton of people disagree with me. Again, potato-potahto.

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  • MichiganManMichiganMan HAIL TO THE VICTORS! GO BLUE! Winston-Salem, NCMembers Posts: 1,600 ✭✭

    @razor_1 said:

    @MichiganMan said:
    Based on the "Top 50 You Can Play" list
    Overrated:
    No 8 - WAYY overrated golf course...without Pinehurst attached to the name it's a middling course IMO
    UNC Finley - well conditioned but the course is nothing special
    Legacy Links - again, it's nice but shouldn't be in the 30s
    Forest Oaks - an absolute joke it's in the Top 50....wouldn't pay $20 to play here based on the condition of the golf course

    Underrated:
    Bryan Park - should be ahead of both UNC and No 8 IMO...probably should be pushing the top 10
    Tanglewood - I assume they haven't taken the redesign into consideration because again, it's much better than both Finley and No 8

    That's why course ratings are a lot like rating blondes vs. brunettes. I love #8. Always have. I think UNC Finley is a fantastic course. Can't say much about UNC, but I do like their golf course. Duke and NC States courses are just as nice, imo. I absolutely can't stand Tobacco Road, a ton of people disagree with me. Again, potato-potahto.

    I totally get it. The rankings are there to create discussion and debate. Same reason they do preseason football rankings in April.

    I think my biggest issue with #8 is that before I played it everyone built it up into this magnificent course. They kept building it up that it just couldn’t live up to the hype.

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  • razor_1razor_1 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭

    @MichiganMan said:

    @razor_1 said:

    @MichiganMan said:
    Based on the "Top 50 You Can Play" list
    Overrated:
    No 8 - WAYY overrated golf course...without Pinehurst attached to the name it's a middling course IMO
    UNC Finley - well conditioned but the course is nothing special
    Legacy Links - again, it's nice but shouldn't be in the 30s
    Forest Oaks - an absolute joke it's in the Top 50....wouldn't pay $20 to play here based on the condition of the golf course

    Underrated:
    Bryan Park - should be ahead of both UNC and No 8 IMO...probably should be pushing the top 10
    Tanglewood - I assume they haven't taken the redesign into consideration because again, it's much better than both Finley and No 8

    That's why course ratings are a lot like rating blondes vs. brunettes. I love #8. Always have. I think UNC Finley is a fantastic course. Can't say much about UNC, but I do like their golf course. Duke and NC States courses are just as nice, imo. I absolutely can't stand Tobacco Road, a ton of people disagree with me. Again, potato-potahto.

    I totally get it. The rankings are there to create discussion and debate. Same reason they do preseason football rankings in April.

    I think my biggest issue with #8 is that before I played it everyone built it up into this magnificent course. They kept building it up that it just couldn’t live up to the hype.

    Understood. I felt the same way when I played TPC-Sawgrass.

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  • herdmanherdman Members Posts: 714 ✭✭
    edited Apr 22, 2019 2:36am #25

    @MichiganMan said:
    Based on the "Top 50 You Can Play" list
    Overrated:
    No 8 - WAYY overrated golf course...without Pinehurst attached to the name it's a middling course IMO
    UNC Finley - well conditioned but the course is nothing special
    Legacy Links - again, it's nice but shouldn't be in the 30s
    Forest Oaks - an absolute joke it's in the Top 50....wouldn't pay $20 to play here based on the condition of the golf course

    Underrated:
    Bryan Park - should be ahead of both UNC and No 8 IMO...probably should be pushing the top 10
    Tanglewood - I assume they haven't taken the redesign into consideration because again, it's much better than both Finley and No 8

    Have played Bryan Park and Tanglewood. Both are good courses, but not on the same planet as Number 8. Just my opinion. They are good courses, but Number 8 is far better conditioned and the greens are better by far. Far superior. It is a top tier course and the others are good.

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