Cobra King CB/MB old vs new. Anyone?

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Hey Guys, I want to order some new Cobra Irons and looking for the King Forged CB/MB Combo Set.

Did anyone of you tested them Head to Head? Is there a noticeable difference with the tungsten at the bottom in the new ones?

Can't hit them side by side. Only hit the new ones.

Thanks

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Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
Putter: Cure RX3
Ball: Taylormade TP5

Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
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  • justasgoodjustasgood Without Tempo, you are just a hacker.  3050WRX Points: 604Handicap: I.Q.Members Posts: 3,050 Titanium Tees
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    I’ve had both. The new ones have a denser feel but still soft if that makes any sense.

    I actually have a near new set on eBay.

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  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    I'm from Germany, so thanks but I will buy my clubs here in Europe.

    Did you notice any difference in ballflight or forgiveness because of the tungsten in the toe?

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • SoAZSoAZ  17WRX Points: 48Members Posts: 17 Bunkers
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    Interested in this too, hope to hear some feedback. Saw them at a store not long ago but had the wife with me so had to run and didn't get a chance to hit them, they are gorgeous.

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  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    Hope that someone chimes in and can give some feedback

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • PopIt&DropItPopIt&DropIt  253WRX Points: 65Members Posts: 253 Greens
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    New ones felt slightly different and flew a little higher. Same exact iron other than the plug so won't be a lot of difference either way. I prefer the previous model because I don't need help hitting it higher but they are great irons either way.

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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Minnesota, USA 7008WRX Points: 1,054Handicap: 7Members Posts: 7,008 Titanium Tees
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    I've not hit them, so I'll just comment on the physics properties...

    The vertical CG of the 19 MB is essentially the same as that of the earlier version from 2016. Its about 0.9mm/0.037" farther from the hosel. The CG of the 19 CB is about a quarter millimeter farther from the hosel and about the same amount higher.

    The MOI of the 19 MB and CB is marginally higher than that of the 16 MB and CB, though a bit of that is due to the measured clubheads being a couple grams heavier. This MOI difference isn't enough to mean anything IMHO; I don't think many are going to be able to tell the difference between 2000 and 2100 MOI, LOL.

    Essentially the same. {shrug}

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    Driver: Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 43.25"
    3w:  Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 42.25"
    2i:  Mizuno Pro, DGS300
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft forged 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane/Professional, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Lime... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 1-SW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
    On occasion, Ram 1i or Mizuno 2i replaced with Orlimar persimmon 4w, Dynamic S

    Driver Substitutes: Golden Ram TW801, TW802, or TW805
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  • armyhawk3342armyhawk3342  82WRX Points: 42Members Posts: 82 Fairways
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    I can't imagine there is really that much of a difference. I decided to custom order the previous model mb's just before the new ones were released. I got mine with the AMT Tour White shafts in the black finish and love the setup. I came from the Mizuno MP15 and am happy with the switch. It's your money so if you think you need the new ones then go for it, but if you want to save a few bucks i'd suggest going the route I did and get the previous model. Good luck you can't go wrong with either choice.

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    Driver: Cobra F8+ (9.5*)
    Wood: Cobra F6 Baffler (17.5*)
    Hybrid: Cobra F7 (22*), Cobra F8 (25*)
    Irons: Srixon Z785 (6-PW)
    Wedges: Mizuno S18 Blue Ion (50*, 54*)
                   Taylormade Hi-Toe (60*)
    Putter: Taylormade Spider Tour Black
    Ball: Titleist AVX
  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    That sounds great. I tested the new ones today again. And the only thing that were not optimal for my eye is the higher launch. If the old ones fly lower (technical wise in theory) it would be perfect.

    What you mean with they felt slightly different? New ones softer/harder?
    I loved the fell of the amp cell pros.

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    Any more comments on old vs new in the feel department? What is different?

    Thanks Guys

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • juststevejuststeve  5032WRX Points: 453Members Posts: 5,032 Titanium Tees
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    Never hit the older version but I did hit the new ones extensively outdoors off grass. Were I remotely in the market for new irons they would be in my bag. They look great even though I'm not a big fan of the black. Feel as good as any forged iron I've ever hit. Very controllable and much easier to hit that a club of that size ought to be. A+ in my book.

    Steve

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  • BearQBearQ  3667WRX Points: 850Members Posts: 3,667 Titanium Tees
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    Unfortunately I only own the cobra 19 MB gap wedge lol. It’s a beautiful little baby blade. Acts like a true pitching wedge imo and I hit full swing shots from 110-130 way better than I ever have. They even threw tungsten in the gap lol

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  • pltplt  118WRX Points: 93Members Posts: 118 Fairways
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    I haven't hit the new ones but I have the old ones. As

    On -, @juststeve said, they're surprisingly easy to hit for their size. I think the tungsten in the toe helps a lot. As for flight, I have the factory C-Taper stiff and the flight is medium-high for me, though I'm a high ball hitter. These are great clubs. You can't go wrong with them.
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  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    Yeah I loved the amp cell pro and the fly z pro and had no problem with the missing tungsten in the amp cell pro. The fly z pro has the tungsten and I didn't notice any difference.

    Thats why I ask If you can feel a difference in the new one with the 2 tungsten weights?

    By the way, how is the CB playing? I´m still not sure if I will go full MB from 5-Gap or 5/6 in the CB and 7-Gap in the MB Head.

    Thanks for your help Guys

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • kiwiikiwii  809WRX Points: 139Members Posts: 809 Golden Tee
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    Cobra isn’t know for revamping their irons year to year. Look at the king Forged tour iron. Essential the same as the Amp Forged.

    Nothing seems to be different between the two model years when I set them down at address.

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    '17 M1 460 9.5/ Rogue Silver
    XR '14 Pro/ PX LZ
    Adams 9031 18°/ Diamana WB
    716 AP24-pw/DG AMT S300
    '14 TM TP 52/56/60
    2014 Squareback/ Lamkin DE + 2 wraps
    Ogio Ozone, TM targa tour
    Tour Boost 360
    TM TP5/ Srixon Zstar XV
  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    Yes, down at Adress both years are identical. I'm only interested in the performance difference because off the added tungsten in the bottom.

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • pingman33pingman33 titleist33  74WRX Points: 68Members Posts: 74 Bunkers
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    I have the old (16) version full cb's (4-gw) and they are amazing. Best irons and I've ever hit. Got them when they first came out and the black finish still looks fantastic! All my buddies tell me I'm an idiot if I even think about getting rid of these. I guess that says something.

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    Bag 1 Bag 2
    Cobra LTD Driver Titleist TS 2 Driver
    Cobra LTD 3-4 wood Titleist Ts 2 fw
    Cobra F6 Baffler Titleist 917 5 wd
    Cobra 3 Utility Titleist TMB 4-gw
    Cobra King Forged CB Black 4-gw Titleist SM7 Black 54m, 58m
    Cobra King Wedges 54,58 Scotty Cameron
    Scotty Cameron
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  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    Thanks for all your Input.

    Anymore direct comparisons between old and new ones?

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • stoneydukesstoneydukes  399WRX Points: 99Handicap: 8-10ClubWRX Posts: 399 ClubWRX
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    On -, @armyhawk3342 said:

    I can't imagine there is really that much of a difference. I decided to custom order the previous model mb's just before the new ones were released. I got mine with the AMT Tour White shafts in the black finish and love the setup. I came from the Mizuno MP15 and am happy with the switch. It's your money so if you think you need the new ones then go for it, but if you want to save a few bucks i'd suggest going the route I did and get the previous model. Good luck you can't go wrong with either choice.

    Im building this exact set right now. Can’t wait to give them a try. What are your thoughts on the AMT shafts? I play 1150GH Nippon currently.

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    On -, @SvenS3 said:

    Yes, down at Adress both years are identical. I'm only interested in the performance difference because off the added tungsten in the bottom.

    I think this is really the only difference, the added tungsten to the club. They started with no tungsten, then added some to the toe. Then added more in the sole in the center of the face. That should make them launch higher and be more forgiving. But we are talking about a rather small blade, so individual results may vary.

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    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 9*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Mizuno MP-18 MB Aldila RIP SLT Tour 115X Flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 52, 58, 64
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • Big BenBig Ben  9301WRX Points: 483Handicap: 5Members Posts: 9,301 Titanium Tees
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    The tungsten makes a huge difference. Rickie wanted to move the center of gravity off the heel and up to the center of the clubface. It is absolutely noticeable and I’ve hit both years. The 19 CB’s are the Lowest offset best pure forged CB with tech on the market right now in my opinion. You want lower launch? The lofts aren’t jacked so simply knock one or two degrees off each iron, simple. They feel and sound so pure too, amazing.

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • armyhawk3342armyhawk3342  82WRX Points: 42Members Posts: 82 Fairways
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    On -, @stoneydukes said:

    On -, @armyhawk3342 said:

    I can't imagine there is really that much of a difference. I decided to custom order the previous model mb's just before the new ones were released. I got mine with the AMT Tour White shafts in the black finish and love the setup. I came from the Mizuno MP15 and am happy with the switch. It's your money so if you think you need the new ones then go for it, but if you want to save a few bucks i'd suggest going the route I did and get the previous model. Good luck you can't go wrong with either choice.

    Im building this exact set right now. Can’t wait to give them a try. What are your thoughts on the AMT shafts? I play 1150GH Nippon currently.

    I love the setup they look absolutely incredible. I like the shaft a lot to be honest, I've always played DG S300 and had problems with ballooning. I tried these AMT's because they are supposed to be lower launching. They help tremendously as i'm a high ball hitter but it's been awfully windy here in Iowa but they keep performing great. They just do exactly what I want them to do and it's hard to beat that.

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    Driver: Cobra F8+ (9.5*)
    Wood: Cobra F6 Baffler (17.5*)
    Hybrid: Cobra F7 (22*), Cobra F8 (25*)
    Irons: Srixon Z785 (6-PW)
    Wedges: Mizuno S18 Blue Ion (50*, 54*)
                   Taylormade Hi-Toe (60*)
    Putter: Taylormade Spider Tour Black
    Ball: Titleist AVX
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    On -, @armyhawk3342 said:

    On -, @stoneydukes said:

    On -, @armyhawk3342 said:

    I can't imagine there is really that much of a difference. I decided to custom order the previous model mb's just before the new ones were released. I got mine with the AMT Tour White shafts in the black finish and love the setup. I came from the Mizuno MP15 and am happy with the switch. It's your money so if you think you need the new ones then go for it, but if you want to save a few bucks i'd suggest going the route I did and get the previous model. Good luck you can't go wrong with either choice.

    Im building this exact set right now. Can’t wait to give them a try. What are your thoughts on the AMT shafts? I play 1150GH Nippon currently.

    I love the setup they look absolutely incredible. I like the shaft a lot to be honest, I've always played DG S300 and had problems with ballooning. I tried these AMT's because they are supposed to be lower launching. They help tremendously as i'm a high ball hitter but it's been awfully windy here in Iowa but they keep performing great. They just do exactly what I want them to do and it's hard to beat that.

    I am also playing the AMT's. I do like them, but I tend to hook the long irons. I think it has to do with being lighter.

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    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 9*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Mizuno MP-18 MB Aldila RIP SLT Tour 115X Flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 52, 58, 64
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • firstbatchfirstbatch  1072WRX Points: 167Handicap: 5.0Members Posts: 1,072 Platinum Tees
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    What about these ....are they 2016 and don’t have tungsten in sole of long irons? Don’t remember that finish being promoted. Great price though.

    https://www.golfdiscount.com/cobra-king-satin-pro-forged-mb-cb-irons

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    King LTD Black CK Tensei Blue S 44”
    Titleist 915f 15deg 3w Diamana 70g blue
    Cobra King Forged CB ‘19 5-PW UST Recoil 95 F4
    Callaway Steelhead XR Pro 4i Project X Catalyst 80
    Cobra F6 Baffler Rogue Black 70
    Ping Glide 2.0  Stealth 50, 54, 58 SS
    Kenny Giannini G6
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    On -, @firstbatch said:

    What about these ....are they 2016 and don’t have tungsten in sole of long irons? Don’t remember that finish being promoted. Great price though.

    https://www.golfdiscount.com/cobra-king-satin-pro-forged-mb-cb-irons

    Those ones don't have the tungsten plugs in the soles, just the ones in the toes. The 2016 version came in both black and satin chrome.

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    Cobra F8+ 
    Cobra F8+ 3-4 FWY
    Cobra King F6 Baffler
    Cobra King Forged CB
    Titleist Vokey SM6 50-54-60
    Scotty Cameron IBDD
    Titleist ProV1
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    I hit the 2016 dmb finish 7 iron in both cb and mb at the range today and was blown away by the performance and now want a set.

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    King LTD Black CK Tensei Blue S 44”
    Titleist 915f 15deg 3w Diamana 70g blue
    Cobra King Forged CB ‘19 5-PW UST Recoil 95 F4
    Callaway Steelhead XR Pro 4i Project X Catalyst 80
    Cobra F6 Baffler Rogue Black 70
    Ping Glide 2.0  Stealth 50, 54, 58 SS
    Kenny Giannini G6
  • Big BenBig Ben  9301WRX Points: 483Handicap: 5Members Posts: 9,301 Titanium Tees
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    Cobras DBM is the best black finish on the market. It’s extremely durable and looks deep and gorgeous. If you look really close it’s almost a super dark charcoal grey.

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
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    On -, @Big Ben said:

    Cobras DBM is the best black finish on the market. It’s extremely durable and looks deep and gorgeous. If you look really close it’s almost a super dark charcoal grey.

    It is really amazing. The Forged Tec Blacks have it and hold up amazingly well.

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    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    On -, @Big Ben

    You say it is a very noticeable difference. Could you tell me what exactly? Do you have Trackman numbers or only guessing on Flight on the Range?

    I'm very interested in that.

    Thanks

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
  • Big BenBig Ben  9301WRX Points: 483Handicap: 5Members Posts: 9,301 Titanium Tees
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    Not a trackman junkie just on course experience. It’s just a very stable iron in my opinion for its small size.

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
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  • SvenS3SvenS3  473WRX Points: 93Handicap: 6.2Members Posts: 473 Greens
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    Ok, thanks.

    I can't believe that the tungsten makes such a huge difference. I think it will be depending on strike location.
    If the numbers were measured on trackman or Flightscope it would be a different story.

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    Driver: Taylormade M5 / Diamana D+ 70 stiff
    Fairway: Callaway Alpha 815 / Diamana Ahina 70 stiff
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 21 / GD AD DI 85 stiff 
    Irons: Titleist 818 AP2 5-Gap / Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54/58 / Project X LZ 6.0
    Putter: Cure RX3
    Ball: Taylormade TP5

    Grips: Gripmaster Kangaroo Sewn Oversize all black.
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