Cleveland rtx 4 raw

Hey all,

Wanting to pick up a Cleveland rtx wedge. Considering the raw finish, but was wondering if anyone could share what their wedge looks like after some usage.

Guy at my shop has them and they are just starting to rust after his tenth or so round. They look nice...maintaining a lot of the original color still.

I’ve had them for six months or so, they look amazing. Have a lil rust on them but the original bronze is still there and looking great.

> @81Ralph33 said:

> I’ve had them for six months or so, they look amazing. Have a lil rust on them but the original bronze is still there and looking great.

Pictures please ??

I have posted these photos here before, but this are raw RTX-4 with roughly 20-30 rounds on them. They have a nice rust/patina look to them with out being excessively rusted.

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I've had it about 1 month. Awesome wedge, but don't love the raw finish. It's not terrible or anything, but kinda wish I would have went with something with out the rusting. I'm a little particular about keeping my clubs clean and the rust spots are activating my OCD.

> @vibgyor1111 said:

I'm a little particular about keeping my clubs clean and the rust spots are activating my OCD.

This is exactly why I couldn't play a raw finish club. The rust spots would drive me coo coo.

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Why would you buy raw tow begin with?

I want mine to rust a bit, Love the look.

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> > I've had it about 1 month. Awesome wedge, but don't love the raw finish. It's not terrible or anything, but kinda wish I would have went with something with out the rusting. I'm a little particular about keeping my clubs clean and the rust spots are activating my OCD.

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> I want mine to rust a bit, Love the look.

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I was misled a bit I feel like honestly. I mentioned this concern to the fitter when we we're ordering and he led me to think it would not be an issue. Not that it wouldn't rust, but that it would be minor. But yeah, I should have made a better decision. Live and learn.

Thanks for the images fellas.

Anyone play the same wedges in the black finish? How does the finish hold up?

Just picked up my RTX 4's, really looking forward to see how they compare to the RTX 3's I played previously. Will be interesting to see how long it takes before the rust starts to do it's magic!

You can invest in a 12 pack of Coca-Cola and soak your wedges in it overnight once a month. It'll take most of the rust off and make them look super clean. Just got my new 60 degree version the other day with scramble winnings and I love it but want to get all the bronzey color off. Love a raw wedge

Here are mine after play down in sunny (humid) Florida. The 60 (closest) was bronze a week ago, but is definitely darkening quickly and picking up a light layer of rust. The 56 is fully rusted. As mentioned, a coke back (or even a pass with a scotchbrite pad) will remove most of the rust and leave raw steel. The life of the bronze finish will likely depend on your geography.

> @FLAis4golferz said:

> You can invest in a 12 pack of Coca-Cola and soak your wedges in it overnight once a month. It'll take most of the rust off and make them look super clean. Just got my new 60 degree version the other day with scramble winnings and I love it but want to get all the bronzey color off. Love a raw wedge

I like using CLR, seems less messy and time consuming, just dip a wire brush and starts scrubbing. That being said i wont use raw finishes lol, i prefer a clean look.

> @mlp021 said:

> Thanks for the images fellas.

> Anyone play the same wedges in the black finish? How does the finish hold up?

I bought black Vokeys this year but didn't hit them before I removed the black by soaking in vinegar for a few hours then lightly rubbing with a Scotchbrite.

I did this to save the $50 extra that Vokey wanted for a raw wedge.

To my point, if you order a black RTX, and it wears to your dissatisfaction, you can probably remove it altogether yielding a raw wedge.

15 years ago...I would soak my raw Vokeys in salt water just to get them to rust as quickly as possible. Lol

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> > You can invest in a 12 pack of Coca-Cola and soak your wedges in it overnight once a month. It'll take most of the rust off and make them look super clean. Just got my new 60 degree version the other day with scramble winnings and I love it but want to get all the bronzey color off. Love a raw wedge

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? I couldn't take a wire brush to my clubs lol. You do you bud! To each his own...

How do these treatments affect groove sharpness?

I've always been curious if cleaning w a wire brush dulls them.

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> ? I couldn't take a wire brush to my clubs lol. You do you bud! To each his own...

Clarification- copper brush. Much softer, wont dull anything

> @Justsomeguy said:

> How do these treatments affect groove sharpness?

> I've always been curious if cleaning w a wire brush dulls them.

I remember reading an article that showed that rust reduces spin, it makes sense. Although I do have a love for raw irons. I wish a company would release a set of raw irons at standard weights.

> @BCULAW said:

> Here are mine after play down in sunny (humid) Florida. The 60 (closest) was bronze a week ago, but is definitely darkening quickly and picking up a light layer of rust. The 56 is fully rusted. As mentioned, a coke back (or even a pass with a scotchbrite pad) will remove most of the rust and leave raw steel. The life of the bronze finish will likely depend on your geography.

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Those look super cool and I like the lineup too. Also, I saw another poster said the raw finish reduces spin, but I always thought the attraction to raw wedges is the look and no glare from It; and that a raw wedge spins a tiny bit more, not less. Or all spin claims a myth?

Raw wedges spin less according to the article I read that tested them. Don’t remember the article though, sorry.

From a quick article I found. Makes sense the micro milled edges on the face really impart spin. The rust maybe lessens this ability as there are less ridges? Grooves don't really impart spin either, they channel the dirt/grass/water from getting between the ball and the face. I saw a test(before face milling) where a PW with grooves and a PW without grooves were hit and were pretty close on backspin, when you put the ball in the rough, or have dew or something else that the grooves make the difference.

What Happened

We hit full-out shots and half-shots with both the 52 and 58 degree wedges. Across the board, for both testers, the Tour Satin (not rusted) wedge performed fractionally better. There was no obvious reason why the rusty finish didn't quite perform better, but we reckon the answer lies in a modern wedge's tech tory.

Like a lot of wedges the new RTX-3 has laser-milled micro grooves between each fave groove. By letting rust form over these grooves, we reckon spin could be hampered. So in effect, modern, laser-milled grooves seem to be more effective than rust at imparting spin.

The rust myth started years ago, when clubs were finished in chrome. When the chrome wore through the resulting rust did enhance spin. But nowadays, as milling technology is so good, it's likely wedge manufactureres have realised precision-milled grooves are better at consistently imparting spin than rust.

The Key Numbers

52 degree Cleveland RTX-3 (mid-bounce)

- Average Tour Satin backspin: 7781rpm

- Average Tour Raw backspin : 6250rpm

58 degree Cleveland RTX-3 (mid-bounce)

- Average Tour Satin backspin: 6644rpm

- Average Tour Raw backspin : 5248rpm