2019 Lotte Championship Apr 17 - 20

Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭
edited Apr 15, 2019 2:39pm in LPGA/Ladies golf talk #1

Race to the CME Globe: 500 Points

Format: 72 holes

Purse: $2,000,000

Location: Ko Olina Golf Club, Kapolei, Oahu, HI

Par: 72

Yardage: 6,397

History: This is the 8th year for the event. In 2018, Brooke Henderson dominated Ko Olina Golf Club with a 69 in a difficult wind to take the Lotte Championship by four strokes over Azahara Munoz at 12-under-par 276.

Coverage:

Apr 17: Golf Channel 7:00 pm - 11:00 pm (ET)
Apr 18: Golf Channel 7:00 pm - 11:00 pm (ET)
Apr 19: Golf Channel 7:00 pm - 11:00 pm (ET)
Apr 20: Golf Channel 7:00 pm - 11:00 pm (ET)

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  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2019 3:53pm #2

    Note that the tournament runs Wednesday through Saturday. 'Decent coverage with 4 hours per night. No surprise that the weather forecast looks to be near perfect with mostly sunny skies, highs in the mid-80's, and wind gusts up to 18 mph. Sung Hyun, Lexi, Jessica, Amy, Lydia, and In-Kyung are sitting this one out.

    It's tough to pick a player to win this one. Brooke won it last year, but has been out of form this season. I'm going to go with a darkhorse pick, Azahara. She's been playing excellent golf this year, and finished 2nd here last year. Jin Young didn't play this event in her rookie season, but coming off two wins, a 2T, and a 3T in the past six weeks, I expect she'll be on the leaderboard.

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  • 18majors18majors Members Posts: 578 ✭✭

    Jin Young Ko was already in Hawaii last year to play the tournament; but withdrew prior to the tournament to visit her grandfather in Korea. who's seriously sick.
    My pick is In Gee Chun; not to win but to finish top five.

  • Seamus_McDuffSeamus_McDuff ChicagoMembers Posts: 902 ✭✭

    I’m going with the women who played at Alabama

    Gillman
    Stephenson
    Talley
    Knight
    Meadow

  • 18majors18majors Members Posts: 578 ✭✭

    @Seamus_McDuff said:
    I’m going with the women who played at Alabama

    Gillman
    Stephenson
    Talley
    Knight
    Meadow

    It's amazing that they won three of the last six US Women's Amateur Championship.
    Kristen Gillman is on schedule; she'll give Lucky 6 all she can handle for Rookie of the Year.

  • StoochStooch Members Posts: 787 ✭✭

    Outside the box pick, I'm going with Cristy Kerr. 2 years ago I really enjoyed the use of psychological warfare in golf by using slow play as a weapon to totally rattle her opponent Su-Yeon Jang on the final day and allowing Cristy to get the win. I enjoyed the wiley vet that day lol So I guess I'm against slow play if you're a slow player but it would seem I'm fine with it as a tactic......don't point out I'm a hypocrite I realize and accept it lol

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭

    @Stooch said:
    Outside the box pick, I'm going with Cristy Kerr. 2 years ago I really enjoyed the use of psychological warfare in golf by using slow play as a weapon to totally rattle her opponent Su-Yeon Jang on the final day and allowing Cristy to get the win. I enjoyed the wiley vet that day lol So I guess I'm against slow play if you're a slow player but it would seem I'm fine with it as a tactic......don't point out I'm a hypocrite I realize and accept it lol

    That tactic didn't quite work for her the following week at the 2017 Texas Shootout where Haru whipped her in the playoff despite her (worst) attempt at stalling.

  • Raving ShankerRaving Shanker Members Posts: 288 ✭✭

    @Argonne69 said:

    @Stooch said:
    Outside the box pick, I'm going with Cristy Kerr. 2 years ago I really enjoyed the use of psychological warfare in golf by using slow play as a weapon to totally rattle her opponent Su-Yeon Jang on the final day and allowing Cristy to get the win. I enjoyed the wiley vet that day lol So I guess I'm against slow play if you're a slow player but it would seem I'm fine with it as a tactic......don't point out I'm a hypocrite I realize and accept it lol

    That tactic didn't quite work for her the following week at the 2017 Texas Shootout where Haru whipped her in the playoff despite her (worst) attempt at stalling.

    The great Haru! The best moment was when she fell over laughing at Kerr's antics during the play-off. It's still one of my favourite psychological warfare moments.

  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Members Posts: 943 ✭✭

    Having picked Jin Young for the win two weeks ago, I still feel confident in her for a W, but I wont choose her. Im going a bit off the radar and looking for Moriya to get it going. Nasa and Sei Young for top performers as well. ShanShan for the dark horse.

  • MellowMellow Members Posts: 268 ✭✭

    Gahh I felt so bad for Su Yeon Jang that year, seeing her literally jog around for Cristie's "laughing at myself" slowdown and the lead slip away ... it's on the list of things that stops me from cheering for Cristie, who I'd otherwise want to like. Wiley I guess, but what about honor!

    I'd love to see In Gee top 5. This does seem a good place for her with the two second places. Always hoping.

    How about Inbee? Here's she's got ... 3T, 11T, 68T, 2, 3, 4T, 12T. That's four top fives, seems like a good place for her too ... but then I guess maybe that's just any old place for Inbee! On that 2, have to wonder what would have happened if Sei Young hadn't magnificently holed out.

    I am curious to see how NYC will do again. And for Michelle's injury. And how Muni can do. Want good luck for them.

    Hoping for So Yeon to get back to herself and defend her ranking! For MJ to continue to do well, and for Tiffany to shine here by the sea. Oh also still tickled by Mi Hyang, would love for her to keep momentum and do well. Can't forget that hole in one reaction and the happy outlook.

  • pjcpjc In The Middle Members Posts: 596 ✭✭
    edited Apr 16, 2019 6:52am #12

    JY KO to WIN, you heard it hear first!

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  • StoochStooch Members Posts: 787 ✭✭

    @Mellow said:
    Gahh I felt so bad for Su Yeon Jang that year, seeing her literally jog around for Cristie's "laughing at myself" slowdown and the lead slip away ... it's on the list of things that stops me from cheering for Cristie, who I'd otherwise want to like. Wiley I guess, but what about honor!

    I'd love to see In Gee top 5. This does seem a good place for her with the two second places. Always hoping.

    How about Inbee? Here's she's got ... 3T, 11T, 68T, 2, 3, 4T, 12T. That's four top fives, seems like a good place for her too ... but then I guess maybe that's just any old place for Inbee! On that 2, have to wonder what would have happened if Sei Young hadn't magnificently holed out.

    I am curious to see how NYC will do again. And for Michelle's injury. And how Muni can do. Want good luck for them.

    Hoping for So Yeon to get back to herself and defend her ranking! For MJ to continue to do well, and for Tiffany to shine here by the sea. Oh also still tickled by Mi Hyang, would love for her to keep momentum and do well. Can't forget that hole in one reaction and the happy outlook.

    I think 2 things can be true at the same time, gutless in terms of using the type of gamesmanship and being totally wrapped up in the gamesmanship itself because you are seeing pro level talent crumble under the use of such an obvious tactic. I always find it interesting seeing how athletes deal with such obstacles, sometimes they rise to the occasion and sometimes they crumble.

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭

    I just wish the tours would take slow play seriously. If I recall correctly, Crisitie took over 2 minutes to hit a putt during the playoff at the 2017 Volunteers. 'Totally unacceptable.

  • StoochStooch Members Posts: 787 ✭✭

    Agree they should enforce slow play rules and I personally feel the rules should be changed to be player specific.

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭

    Yes, every player should be assigned a timer, and they should get 40 seconds per shot once they arrive at their ball if they're the first to hit, or 30 seconds if they're not the first. Give them two 60 second timeouts per round. This would be for every single shot, not just when put on the clock. The whole group being on the clock this is stupid as f*ck. A single slow player can get a group put on the clock.

  • AWinfortheAgesAWinfortheAges Members Posts: 193 ✭✭

    @Argonne69 said:
    I'm going to go with a darkhorse pick, Azahara. She's been playing excellent golf this year, and finished 2nd here last year.

    Same pick. Same reasons

  • StoochStooch Members Posts: 787 ✭✭

    I'm guessing the Lotte people weren't impressed with Brooke's Hula dance last year, back 9 starting tee time for a defending champ, don't see that often. lol

  • 18majors18majors Members Posts: 578 ✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2019 2:58pm #19

    This Korean article lamented about the struggles of In Gee Chun, So Yeon Ryu and Na Yeon Choi; arguably, three of the most popular Korean golfers before the new wave of Sung Hyun Park, Jin Young Ko and Lucky 6.


    https://sports.v.daum.net/v/20190416080001334

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭

    I'm lamenting, too. NYC had an injury, but In Gee's and So Yeon's recent woes are hard to explain.

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭

    Scoring looks good in the early going. Nine players are currently tied for the lead at -3.

  • ShilgyShilgy Members Posts: 11,385 ✭✭

    I do believe that I read recently Yani Tseng is in danger of actually losing her card and needing to go back to Q school. Yikes!

    +7 thru 9 holes today.

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  • 18majors18majors Members Posts: 578 ✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2019 8:52pm #23

    @Argonne69 said:
    Scoring looks good in the early going. Nine players are currently tied for the lead at -3.

    Winds are creating havoc; downwind #5 clocked 285 yards or longer, headwind #14 235 yards or shorter.
    Sei Young Kim had 6 birdies and one bogey on the front 9; she had 8 putts.

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  • North TexasNorth Texas Members Posts: 4,107 ✭✭

    @Shilgy said:
    I do believe that I read recently Yani Tseng is in danger of actually losing her card and needing to go back to Q school. Yikes!

    +7 thru 9 holes today.

    Now +7 thru 12 holes. And she has hit 7 greens in regulation!

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭

    In the history of golf, I don't think there's a player that has plummeted more than Yani that wasn't derailed by an injury. 'Sad.

  • North TexasNorth Texas Members Posts: 4,107 ✭✭

    Based on that swing, looks like Michelle is done. Again.

  • Argonne69Argonne69 Members Posts: 20,323 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2019 2:48am #27

    Interesting leaderboard. A few familiar names, and a few newcomers. 'Nice to see So Yeon and In Gee playing well.

    Nelly having a heck of an afternoon. 'Nice start with six birdies on the front.

  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 761 ✭✭

    @18majors said:
    This Korean article lamented about the struggles of In Gee Chun, So Yeon Ryu and Na Yeon Choi; arguably, three of the most popular Korean golfers before the new wave of Sung Hyun Park, Jin Young Ko and Lucky 6.


    https://sports.v.daum.net/v/20190416080001334

    It's hard to expect much from NYC at this point. She was one of my favorites to watch when I got back into the game (SYR and Hee Young Park the others). Realistically, making cuts is probably a decent outcome for her in the near-term.

    So Yeon started fairly slow last year as well, and then had a decent year. Excluding today, it does seem worse this year though. Her scoring average this year is a bit worse (although she played more tournaments up to this point last year, so that may be impacting things) and while I don't have her YTD stats at this point in 2018 it's hard to imagine her driving accuracy and GIR being worse. Hopefully, her last big moment wasn't the 7-iron into the water on the 71st hole at the KPMG Women's PGA last year (as a fan, this one still kills me. She had outplayed SHP and Brooke, two players that are/will probably be regarded as better than her, for 34 of 36 holes on the weekend. I also think this would have changed some peoples' perspective on her, given the issues with Lexi at the 2017 ANA).

    So many comments on In Gee before as well. Her and Lydia seem similar to me - Lydia clearly had a better record, but both seemed to have so much potential at the end of 2016. Even though each of them won last year, I'm not sure their games were better in 2018 vs 2017 and outside of Lydia's average driving distance neither has shown any significant improvement so far this year. We can only hope they both get better from here.

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  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 9,013 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2019 3:20am #29

    Gosh can they please stop showing Wie - as the Simpsons meme goes: Stop! Stop! (s)he's dead already.

  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,669 ClubWRX

    It’s hard to believe how little actual golf they manage to show during the LPGA broadcasts. I’m already completely sick of looking at the two commentators as they yammer on and on. If they think they have to talk that much, at least show golf while they’re doing it.

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    @deadsolid...shank said:
    It’s hard to believe how little actual golf they manage to show during the LPGA broadcasts. I’m already completely sick of looking at the two commentators as they yammer on and on. If they think they have to talk that much, at least show golf while they’re doing it.

    Shankers of the world agree on this matter. Everyone talks about the cost of covering golf tournaments. So, they've got the cameras there, they've flown the technical crew half way around the world for it...now just let it roll! Show some ******** golf!!

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