P790’s going to high help

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Recently bought a set of P790’s with the modus 120 stiff shafts to help get back some distance lost over the years. My previous set was Mp 33’s with s300 shafts. I hit my 33’s with a nice penetrating ball flight (7 iron 160) but only gained about 3-4 yards a club with the P790’s which is not what I was looking for ,and they go to moon. I recently switched back to the 33’s and I’m back to the penetrating flight I like. My question is would this be because of the modus shaft and would reshafted the p790’s to s300 help get me a more penetrating flight? Don’t want to spend money reshafting them if it won’t help. Any help would be appreciated.

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJ 8088WRX Points: 1,342Handicap: +1.6 (1194646)Members Posts: 8,088 Titanium Tees
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    well, the irons are designed to get the ball up in the air with very little spin; so much so they are lofted very strong to help counter this issue.

    finding a lower launch shaft will definitely help -- but hitting a really low knockdown type shot is tougher with clubs like the P790 (IMO, YRMV)

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    On -, @Mickeyblue12 said:

    Recently bought a set of P790’s with the modus 120 stiff shafts to help get back some distance lost over the years. My previous set was Mp 33’s with s300 shafts. I hit my 33’s with a nice penetrating ball flight (7 iron 160) but only gained about 3-4 yards a club with the P790’s which is not what I was looking for ,and they go to moon. I recently switched back to the 33’s and I’m back to the penetrating flight I like. My question is would this be because of the modus shaft and would reshafted the p790’s to s300 help get me a more penetrating flight? Don’t want to spend money reshafting them if it won’t help. Any help would be appreciated.

    Reshaft 1 club (7-iron, or 6-iron) and see what happens. (keep the old shaft just in case you decide to sell the P790's.)

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  • Adam CAdam C  673WRX Points: 368Handicap: 4Members Posts: 673 Golden Tee
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    It may bring you down a little, but the shaft only has a limited effect. The head is the main culprit. Don't know that you would see enough difference to make it worth the money to have someone switch them, or the time if you do it yourself.

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  • uglandeuglande  346WRX Points: 244Members Posts: 346 Greens
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    That's surprising. I used to hit forged cavity-backs and would hit them higher with more spin than my current P790s (even accounting for the loft differences). I went with P790s in a Project X shaft in order to solve my launch/spin issues, and it has worked. So I wouldn't rule out a shaft change, but as gvoel said, just try with one iron and see how it goes.

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    Yeah I was expecting them to be a little higher, but not super high. Thought I would be hitting the 7 more like 170-175. That’s why when I switched back to the 33’s i thought it might be the shaft. It’s doesn’t make since especially since my 33’s 7 iron is 36 degrees of loft and the p790’s are 30.5 and only going 3-4 yards farther.

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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Los Angeles 6007WRX Points: 693Members Posts: 6,007 Titanium Tees
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    What I have been told by club builders is shaft is mainly about weight and balance (solid impact) and heads are about trajectory and spin, that shafts have modest influence over spin and trajectory

    PS: I hit my p790 lower and with much less spin that anything I have played (blades, players cb). Go figure?

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    Maybe I’ll just sell them and get some new mizuno blades bent a degree stronger. Think the new mizunos are 2 degrees stronger than the 33’s anyway. Get my extra 10yrds that way lol.

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  • BiggErnBiggErn  2728WRX Points: 614Members Posts: 2,728 Titanium Tees
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    I have 790s and they do go high on full shots but I don’t have trouble keeping the flight down when needed.

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    Shallow your swing out

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    what is "too high?" give us a number. pros hit it 100-110 feet on a stock swing. Rory can regularly get it up to 140 feet. So, give us numbers. cause if you're going from 80 to 110 feet, I would think this would be a good change, because you'll have a steeper descent angle and means your longer irons are likely landing steep too.

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    I hit mine way high too when I had them...especially the short irons. I had Px 6.5 in mine and moonballed them. Great club but wasn’t for me.

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    On -, @mxskier said:

    what is "too high?" give us a number. pros hit it 100-110 feet on a stock swing. Rory can regularly get it up to 140 feet. So, give us numbers. cause if you're going from 80 to 110 feet, I would think this would be a good change, because you'll have a steeper descent angle and means your longer irons are likely landing steep too.

    I think most people have no clue how high they should actually be hitting irons. Agree 100% with your post

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    You guys forget that 99.9% of the muni or club level greens are kept so soft that moon ball traj isn’t needed , and maybe even unwanted if you would like the ball to roll a bit after landing. Why ? To keep them alive in the heat. Guys in tv don’t usually play on damp , slow greens. Then there’s the wind . If he can’t flight them down. They will go less distance than the mp33. Just food for thought.

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    I came to p790 to lower my flight and it worked.

    I saw different numbers and heights by shaft change during the fitting.
    Good luck for perfect combo.

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    I have s300 in my p790 and find them to have a great mid flight trajectory. They hit lower than my previous irons with kbs tour.

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    Maybe hardstep the 120’s?

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  • cliffhangercliffhanger spruce grove alberta 1769WRX Points: 216Handicap: 8.2ClubWRX Posts: 1,769 ClubWRX
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    The 790’s were very high flying for me even with a C-Taper or DG X100 in them. The 760’s with the KBS tour is flighting perfect for me... nice mid flight with almost ideal spin.

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  • danielryanwdanielryanw  316WRX Points: 43Members Posts: 316 Greens
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    S300s are 130grams
    Modus 120s are 114grams

    I’d bet this change is what’s causing your problems. You’re probably delivering the club differently whether you’re aware of it or not.
    Like others have posted, put an S300 into your 6i/7i and see how it goes. Curious to hear.

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    I think it’s the shaft too. There’s just something about them that doesn’t feel right when I swing them. Thought this would just be growing pains while getting used to them.
    Plus it’s tuff going from the feel of the 33’s to the 790’s. Mxskier don’t know the actual numbers on how high. But if there’s any wind at all into the face or downwind wouldn’t no what club to hit let’s put it that way. I know these pros hit it high but it still bores through the air and I’m no Rory and don’t think I’ll be trying to put it on any shelf’s at Augusta National anytime soon lol.

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    On a side note. Mp 18 mb’s Or 919 tours?

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    Before you do anything else maybe get the lofts checked? This is the first thing to eliminate before doing anything drastic like switching shafts or looking for an entirely new club. You could even strengthen the lofts to get your ball flight. Not really recommended since the lofts “should” already be crazy strong but most people don’t hit the 790 too high.

    Honestly wouldn’t resort to reshafting the clubs if the ball flight isn’t working for you and there’s nothing else you like about the clubs. 919 tours or even consider the Mp 18 Mmc if you want some forgiveness.

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