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Aces vs. Hole-Outs

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ObeeObee  4052WRX Points: 840Handicap: +1ClubWRX Posts: 4,052
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I am one of those guys with only 1 ace. My mother (a 36 index) had a hole-in-one before I did! But I have at least 40 to 50 hole-outs from 100 to 210. Anybody else out there have tons of hole-outs and very few (or no) aces?

How about players with quite a few holes-in-one, but very few hole-outs otherwise?

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  • buckeyeflbuckeyefl  6095WRX Points: 1,090Members Posts: 6,095
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    You are not alone. Zero HIO but a boat load of hole outs.

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  • jvincentjvincent  1164WRX Points: 519Members Posts: 1,164
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    No HIO, several hole outs.

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    Remember, you have typically 4 chances for an ace every round, and 14 chances to hole out. We should expect to have 3 or 4 times as many hole-outs. I know I have 3 aces, but I have no idea how many hole-outs, I know its a bunch more than 3.

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  • CMCSGolfCMCSGolf  605WRX Points: 132Members Posts: 605
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    Wow, that's a lot of hole outs. I am 30 and have played to scratch for about 10 years now. I've played more than 60 rounds every year since 2000, upwards of 150 in high school and college. And the longest hole out I have is about 30 yards. It's amazing to me that some people have so many. Perhaps I play too conservatively, unlucky, or just not as good as I think :smile:

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  • Matt JMatt J  8735WRX Points: 336Members Posts: 8,735
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    I holed out from 115 late last year, no HIO's. I hole out quite a bit off the green, but outside of 30 yards very rarely. Holed out from 50 yards from a bunker 2 seasons ago and that was fun.

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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Iowa 19943WRX Points: 3,891ClubWRX Posts: 19,943
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    2 HIOs 1 3w double eagle HO, 1 8i eagle HO, 1 6i eagle HO

    HOs have apparently always intimidated me!

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  • FergusonFerguson  5574WRX Points: 2,697Handicap: 6.8Members Posts: 5,574
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    No holes in one.
    About 18-20 HOs
    The best one was at a scramble in October back when I lived in upstate NY - we were the last group finishing in # 9.
    I dunked one from 140 on a short par 4 in front of everyone ..........................as it started snowing.

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  • denismcgdenismcg  200WRX Points: 76Members Posts: 200
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    I think I am the opposite. 4 HIOs but I cannot recall having any hole outs at all.

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  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing  3737WRX Points: 1,050Handicap: 4Members Posts: 3,737
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    1 hole in one, in 2015 after 25 years of playing. No idea how many hole outs - Probably 50 from 100 or more out.

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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Iowa 19943WRX Points: 3,891ClubWRX Posts: 19,943
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    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    I have hardly any of either. No aces and my longest hole out is 81yds. My second longest hole-out is about 40yds.

    My 10th longest hole-out is probably a 1-foot tap-in. I don't hole-out a lot. My group actually overall says that i am one of the unluckiest golfers they know. I lip out a lot of putts, rarely get help from trees, and never hole out.

    It's all part of life's balance, i don't get a lot of breaks in golf. It's the penalty for being so handsome and smart i think

    I just keep reading this and feel ugly and dumb - nah, he's from Canada.

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  • davep043davep043  4553WRX Points: 1,714Handicap: 3.8Members Posts: 4,553
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    On -, @Obee said:

    On -, @davep043 said:

    Remember, you have typically 4 chances for an ace every round, and 14 chances to hole out. We should expect to have 3 or 4 times as many hole-outs. I know I have 3 aces, but I have no idea how many hole-outs, I know its a bunch more than 3.

    Nobody asked for your fancy logic, Dave! ;-)

    My hole-out number absolutely dwarfs my hole-in-ones. It's like 45 - 1. It's just completely anomalous.

    Not only that, but consider how many short irons and wedges we get to hit into par 4 and 5 holes, and how few on par 3s. That should skew the numbers even more heavily toward hole-outs.

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  • tommgtommg  145WRX Points: 60Members Posts: 145
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    No 1s for me. Lots of hole outs, jarred a wedge Monday for my first eagle in a few years.

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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area. 25223WRX Points: 2,238Handicap: 2 ManyClubWRX Posts: 25,223
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    2 HiO's (same round - active brag), 20+ hole outs including one for an 8. Don't ask.

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  • bazinkybazinky  1702WRX Points: 182Members Posts: 1,702
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    I'm still waiting on my first hole in one (see my No Ace Club thread), but I've had a bunch of hole-outs.
    One thing I've begun to notice is that the structure of the green complexes that you play on plays a really big role in how likely you are to have either a hole-out or a hole in one. I now play most of my golf at a course where it's pretty imperative to keep your ball below the hole on approaches. Even though my scores aren't all that different now, I have a lot fewer hole-outs than I used to.

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  • Edaw68Edaw68  1576WRX Points: 210Handicap: 5Members Posts: 1,576
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    I'm also in the no aces boat, but have a few 0 putt eagles. (not as many as others here!) 4 total I can remember.

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  • LeftDaddyLeftDaddy  829WRX Points: 236Handicap: 9Members Posts: 829
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    I won’t say I have a ton of hole-outs, but I definitely have my share. Probably in the 20s. No aces, though. I like to say I’ve come close, and I guess I have as a few have rolled right by the cup, but about 1 ft is the closest I’ve finished to any aces.

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    I'm one of the unlucky guys that had two aces with no witnesses(during winter while playing alone) and no official aces. But I can live with it. I did have an ace during a Par 3 tournament that netted me the only skin of the tournament but I do not count that as an official ace. I did have an ace for par while playing with my club pro, original ball was OB by an inch or so, only about 10-15 yards right of the pin.

    I have holed out every par 4 hole at my home club, longest being 195 yards. I witnessed couple aces already this year. Lucky bast*ges! Ha.

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  • andrueandrue  1442WRX Points: 230Handicap: 21Members Posts: 1,442
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    I've had one ace, a couple of years ago. Silliest hole out was two months ago on a par 4. Horrible pull off the tee landed me behind a bush. I had to aim around it and caught another tree half way up the fairway. I tried to punch out but clipped a branch and ended up in a fairway bunker. The ball came out a bit low, clipped the lip and proceeded to roll 100 yards into the cup.

    A par is a par no matter how you do it :)

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  • RSinSGRSinSG St George, UT (Formerly Palm Springs, CA) 3333WRX Points: 410Handicap: 7.2ClubWRX Posts: 3,333
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    Interesting question OP.

    I’ve had 3 HIO’s and no idea how many hole outs. I do remember my first one though even though it was many years (1970’s) ago. Playing alone I had a 150 third shot on a par 5 that was my nemesis. I thought I hit it well but when I didn’t see a ball I spend several minutes searching all around the green. I figured I must have nuked it OB, and then almost as an afterthought I thought I should check the cup. My heart started a little pitter-pat as I walked to the cup and I had to double check the ball to make sure it was mine. My first eagle and no witnesses, and of course none of my buddies would believe me.

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    6 hole outs, no aces unfortunately. 5-6 hole outs I had were to an elevated green so didn't see them go in. Oddly enough, all 6 of my hole outs have also been either from the first cut of rough or the native rough, have not done it from the fairway yet.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU  9075WRX Points: 2,585Handicap: 8Members Posts: 9,075
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    No hole in ones, but yes about 10 hole outs.

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    On -, @davep043 said:

    Remember, you have typically 4 chances for an ace every round, and 14 chances to hole out. We should expect to have 3 or 4 times as many hole-outs. I know I have 3 aces, but I have no idea how many hole-outs, I know its a bunch more than 3.
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  • TommixTommix  57WRX Points: 70Handicap: 14Members Posts: 57
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    One HIO and a few hole outs.
    What do I call a second shot hole out on a par five where the tees are bought forward ninety yards due to temporary repair making it a long par 4 but there’s no notice of a change.
    An albatross or an eagle

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  • Carl Spackler3Carl Spackler3  1167WRX Points: 336Members Posts: 1,167
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    I would only go as far as saying many chip ins. Not 100 yard hole ins. And no aces yet, but I’m playing Saturday

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    I was scratch back in the day. I've shot under par dozens of times. I have never had a hole in one and I've only had one hole out of more than 100 yards.

    My dad who can't break 100 and plays about twice a year--and NEVER practices--has an ace. UGH.

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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user Florida 6510WRX Points: 1,018Handicap: 4.9Members Posts: 6,510
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    I guess I'd have to ask if "hole outs" are full swings.

    Do 30-70 yard partial swings count ? Obviously chips (or how long ?) don't (I guess).

    Anyway, only 1 HIO and 2 full swing hole outs I can remember, both with 8 irons. Multiple 30-75 yard shots.

    But I do have 2 double eagles,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so I guess they are hole outs as well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so 4 I can remember

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  • GhostwedgeGhostwedge  676WRX Points: 86Handicap: 8.0Members Posts: 676
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    Posted this yesterday, have no idea where it ended up. I’ll try it again, got 2 aces and holed out from150 yds a long time ago for an eagle. Seems like i pitch one in from inside 100 yds about once every other year. Not that great, i play well over 100 rds a year.
    Like chipping in from greenside once in awhile, offsets my suspect putting.

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