TS3 issue

Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

I have been custom fitted for this driver but can't seem to make this club work for me. I launch it fine but I'm not happy with the flight and peak height I achieve. I can launch it 14 or so degrees and still get only 90ft of so peak height even hitting up on it 4 degrees. I prefer to see a higher flight 110-120ft or more. Also the flight of the TS3 tends to fly a little low and dip and not hold its flight quite long enough. I got fitted for the 8.5 and questioned whether I should be put into 9.5 but the fitter said I am launching it fine and he'd be afraid spin would get too high with 9.5. I spin the TS3 on good hits around 2300 but this can drop on mishits. I don't know whether to forget about the TS3 altogether or keep trying shafts and lofts. Already have tried 3 shafts. No0ne make me feel confident.

I play the 910 D3 and it totally outperforms the TS3. Better flight, same distance (if not longer) and more accurate and forgiving. I am a good driver with it. I never hit dippers with it. The TS3 just doesn't feel right. I'm not taking the 910 out of the bag but I feel like the TS3 should be performing better considering its a more modern driver and the effort I have put into finding its eventual replacement.

Is it a shaft or loft issue or just a dud driver for me?

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  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    P.S. I also play the 910 at 8.5 and was custom fit by the same guy 8 yrs ago.

  • cpeckcpeck North new jerseyMembers Posts: 394 ✭✭

    i was just reading somewhere else this guy has a similar problem someone mentioned the TS2 would have been better choice. for the reason of spin.

  • cpeckcpeck North new jerseyMembers Posts: 394 ✭✭

    check the thread title about my 910 outperforms everything or something along those lines

  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,504 ✭✭

    Sounds like you just need more loft/spin. The 910 is a higher spinning head so may need to loft up with the TS3. If you get a high strike and spin drops sub 2k they are likely falling out of the sky and at the same time losing accuracy

  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers Posts: 617 ✭✭

    What is your ball speed? 14º launch and 2300 spin should drop bombs... unless your ball speed doesn't match up.

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  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    Ball speed is 160-165 and 167 when hitting it my absolute best

  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    When I hit it in isolation you might say that's a decent flight but side by side on the golf course v the 910 the difference becomes apparent. 910 better flight with always a good trajectory and height and never falls out of the sky. Good distance and forgiveness. Very consistent.

    The TS3 seems to come off the face hotter but more uncontrollably, and seems to dip slightly even on decent impact locations. Playing the 910 at 44.5'' and the TS3 at 44.75''.
    On course testing shows the 910 is much straighter and consistent and goes as far as the TS3 good hits.

  • Jc0Jc0 ChicagoMembers Posts: 1,872 ✭✭

    What shafts are in each. As others have said It sounds like you have higher spin with the 910. Your comment on the spin going down on mishits is also a little odd. Normally center face to above center should generate the lowest spin. The fact your say your mishits are getting lower spin may mean you aren't hitting the center of the face with your good swings.

  • shaolingolfershaolingolfer Members Posts: 113 ✭✭

    Do you fit into TS3 or you want TS3 to begin with?
    If you are custom fit and hit 910 and TS3 side by side, what make you to choose to purchase the TS3 driver.

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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members Posts: 1,908 ✭✭

    It sounds like spin is too low, start adding ticks of loft, that is what the adjustments are there for. This will increase launch and spin which will add stability.

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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MOMembers Posts: 2,844 ✭✭

    Opposite experience here. 8.5* TS3 and i hit high launching flat bombs. Its easily the most forgiving driver i've ever hit. i have a heavier weight in mine and 5 grams of cotton in the head as well.

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  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    I > @shaolingolfer said:

    Do you fit into TS3 or you want TS3 to begin with?
    If you are custom fit and hit 910 and TS3 side by side, what make you to choose to purchase the TS3 driver.

    I went specifically for the TS3 because I loved the 910 and the word was the TS3 was a great driver and having played the 910 for 8 yrs its getting a bit battered and bruised so wanted more of the same but with a new driver. I also hoped technology might give me more yardage in the 8 yrs between the 910 and TS3.
    I didn't get to try them side by side on the course until I had bought it.

    Turns out its a dud. I have tried the Speeder TS 84 x , the Evenflow White 6.5 and the Hzrdus Smoke 6.5, the Diamana whiteboard in it on the course and my 910 beats all of them. I was able to buy another shaft on ebay and also got a loan of a couple.
    I took some data from my fitting and the landing angle on a good hit was 35 degrees. Peak height 93 feet with 14 launch.
    I never hit low hooks with my 910 but witht he TS3 its a possibility.

  • drscott266drscott266 Members Posts: 356 ✭✭

    @Trap Junior said:
    I have been custom fitted for this driver but can't seem to make this club work for me. I launch it fine but I'm not happy with the flight and peak height I achieve. I can launch it 14 or so degrees and still get only 90ft of so peak height even hitting up on it 4 degrees. I prefer to see a higher flight 110-120ft or more. Also the flight of the TS3 tends to fly a little low and dip and not hold its flight quite long enough. I got fitted for the 8.5 and questioned whether I should be put into 9.5 but the fitter said I am launching it fine and he'd be afraid spin would get too high with 9.5. I spin the TS3 on good hits around 2300 but this can drop on mishits. I don't know whether to forget about the TS3 altogether or keep trying shafts and lofts. Already have tried 3 shafts. No0ne make me feel confident.

    I play the 910 D3 and it totally outperforms the TS3. Better flight, same distance (if not longer) and more accurate and forgiving. I am a good driver with it. I never hit dippers with it. The TS3 just doesn't feel right. I'm not taking the 910 out of the bag but I feel like the TS3 should be performing better considering its a more modern driver and the effort I have put into finding its eventual replacement.

    Is it a shaft or loft issue or just a dud driver for me?

    Did hit get fit outdoors or in a simulator? I have similar experiences to you when I did only indoor fittings, no matter how good the fitter. It’s scary what numbers on a screen can translate to in real life. I had that disaster with a Epic Flash. Just got fit for a TS3 outdoors, 10.5* head set to 12* if that tells you anything

  • t4t3rt4t3r Members Posts: 2,707 ✭✭

    There are no duds. Everything is really, really good right now and very comparable. Just because you liked a previous generation Titleist driver doesn’t mean the newest one will work well for you, or that the loft you purchased is the correct one. It’s not uncommon to have to add some loft with lower spin drivers - the 910 is not that. You haven’t mentioned changing any of the settings, or that you’ve gone back to the fitter with your issues. Most fitters want their customers to be happy so don’t be afraid to give them a chance to do so.

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  • Jc0Jc0 ChicagoMembers Posts: 1,872 ✭✭

    @Trap Junior said:
    I > @shaolingolfer said:

    Do you fit into TS3 or you want TS3 to begin with?
    If you are custom fit and hit 910 and TS3 side by side, what make you to choose to purchase the TS3 driver.

    I went specifically for the TS3 because I loved the 910 and the word was the TS3 was a great driver and having played the 910 for 8 yrs its getting a bit battered and bruised so wanted more of the same but with a new driver. I also hoped technology might give me more yardage in the 8 yrs between the 910 and TS3.
    I didn't get to try them side by side on the course until I had bought it.

    Turns out its a dud. I have tried the Speeder TS 84 x , the Evenflow White 6.5 and the Hzrdus Smoke 6.5, the Diamana whiteboard in it on the course and my 910 beats all of them. I was able to buy another shaft on ebay and also got a loan of a couple.
    I took some data from my fitting and the landing angle on a good hit was 35 degrees. Peak height 93 feet with 14 launch.
    I never hit low hooks with my 910 but witht he TS3 its a possibility.

    What shaft is in your 910 and have you tried it in the TS3?

  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    Fubuki 910, Tried it in the TS3 and flight wasn't the same. Even though I'm launching it well on Trackman it feels like I have to help it in the air by hanging back.

  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    @drscott266 said:

    @Trap Junior said:
    I have been custom fitted for this driver but can't seem to make this club work for me. I launch it fine but I'm not happy with the flight and peak height I achieve. I can launch it 14 or so degrees and still get only 90ft of so peak height even hitting up on it 4 degrees. I prefer to see a higher flight 110-120ft or more. Also the flight of the TS3 tends to fly a little low and dip and not hold its flight quite long enough. I got fitted for the 8.5 and questioned whether I should be put into 9.5 but the fitter said I am launching it fine and he'd be afraid spin would get too high with 9.5. I spin the TS3 on good hits around 2300 but this can drop on mishits. I don't know whether to forget about the TS3 altogether or keep trying shafts and lofts. Already have tried 3 shafts. No0ne make me feel confident.

    I play the 910 D3 and it totally outperforms the TS3. Better flight, same distance (if not longer) and more accurate and forgiving. I am a good driver with it. I never hit dippers with it. The TS3 just doesn't feel right. I'm not taking the 910 out of the bag but I feel like the TS3 should be performing better considering its a more modern driver and the effort I have put into finding its eventual replacement.

    Is it a shaft or loft issue or just a dud driver for me?

    Did hit get fit outdoors or in a simulator? I have similar experiences to you when I did only indoor fittings, no matter how good the fitter. It’s scary what numbers on a screen can translate to in real life. I had that disaster with a Epic Flash. Just got fit for a TS3 outdoors, 10.5* head set to 12* if that tells you anything

    Bit of both. Indoors hitting into the outdoors from a bay. I couldn't actually see the flight of the ball. My eyesight is shot.

  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members Posts: 1,908 ✭✭
    edited Apr 20, 2019 11:24am #19

    @Trap Junior said:
    I > @shaolingolfer said:

    Do you fit into TS3 or you want TS3 to begin with?
    If you are custom fit and hit 910 and TS3 side by side, what make you to choose to purchase the TS3 driver.

    I went specifically for the TS3 because I loved the 910 and the word was the TS3 was a great driver and having played the 910 for 8 yrs its getting a bit battered and bruised so wanted more of the same but with a new driver. I also hoped technology might give me more yardage in the 8 yrs between the 910 and TS3.
    I didn't get to try them side by side on the course until I had bought it.

    Turns out its a dud. I have tried the Speeder TS 84 x , the Evenflow White 6.5 and the Hzrdus Smoke 6.5, the Diamana whiteboard in it on the course and my 910 beats all of them. I was able to buy another shaft on ebay and also got a loan of a couple.
    I took some data from my fitting and the landing angle on a good hit was 35 degrees. Peak height 93 feet with 14 launch.
    I never hit low hooks with my 910 but witht he TS3 its a possibility.

    Technology is only going to give you more yardage if you're properly fit/optimized for what you need it to do. If you've tried 4 different shafts but haven't changed your loft setting yet then you're just fumbling around with phillips screwdrivers when you need a flathead. Loft for loft and strike for strike, the 910 is going to spin more. This would give you a more stable flight with less of a left tendency, so the solution is to loft up on your lower spinning TS3 to achieve the same higher spin numbers. THIS is how you get more distance, because now you're launching higher without the spin increasing over the 910 which = more carry and more total yardage. Don't try another shaft before you adjust your loft settings, the answer is right there in front of you.

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  • Hot Rod 71Hot Rod 71 #TheWRX ClubWRX, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 8,868 ClubWRX

    I've read numerous stories similar to yours - great performance and numbers during the fitting but the club under-performs on the course. One thing that can be a culprit is the variance in stated loft from club head to club head. Sometimes a driver marked 8.5* is actually 7.5* or 9.5*. There are also variances in shaft flex within the same flex designation which can cause differences in performance from shaft to shaft.

    I had a guy with the same issue at a demo day a few years back for the 915 driver. He was hitting the demo driver great, probably the best he's ever hit a driver. He ordered one on the spot. When it arrived he took it to the range and to the course several times and could never get the same results he got on demo day. It was a huge let-down for him and he eventually benched it.

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  • golfjamgolfjam Members Posts: 538 ✭✭

    It could be the head itself. I'm on my 3rd TS3 head and my previous 2 didn't feel right. First one was long but didn't sound right, second one same but not as long, both 9.5. Luckily I got a 8.5 head on BST to try and it's perfect. Sound and feel is just like a TS2, which I originally preferred, and it's longer.

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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,224 ✭✭

    So Interesting how equipment varies for everyone.
    I was hitting my 917 D3 9.5 lofted up to 10.25 last year and it was borderline too low with a KKDC 70TX. I put the same shaft in my 9.5 TS3 2 months ago and it’s borderline too high at the stock 9.5 loft. Thinking about going down to 8.75.

    Oh....and the answer to your dilemma is super simple. Keep playing the 910.
    I’ve tried nearly everything out there and I keep going back to the Cobra LTD.

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  • Trap JuniorTrap Junior Members Posts: 778 ✭✭

    Just finished another round on the course testing both. Hit the TS3 and it went well for a few holes but then started hitting some really wild shots with it. Low hooks and big block cuts. I switched back to my old driver and start hitting it straight. The ball doesn't feel right off the face. I dont know why but when I set up to it I just dont feel comfortable. The head looks a little too big and I just feel like it could go anywhere. Its costly but might try a 9.5 at some stage in it. Personally I feel the COG is just too far forward on it a bit like the SLDR. Might give good ball speed numbers in a launch monitor in laboratory golf but its horribly unforgiving even on marginal shots.

  • SAM_PGASAM_PGA PGA Professional Knoxville, TNMembers Posts: 617 ✭✭

    Have you tried your 910 driver shaft in the TS3 head? Also adjust to A4... I think we're all just trying to be helpful here.

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  • Big BenBig Ben Members Posts: 8,974 ✭✭

    Different stokes for different folks. I’m ripping my TS3 it’s not going anywhere. BB

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