How does your swing change from 50 yds and in?

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FormerBigDaddyFormerBigDaddy  121WRX Points: 38Handicap: 18Members Posts: 121 Fairways
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Do you use a shorter version of your full swing on long chips and pitch shots?Does your takeaway stay the same? Or do you do something different?

I feel like a much more shallow/flatter swing is better for me in my short game but I see some people still take the club upright in short game as well.

Anyone have some good insight?



  • glkglk send it in jerome Kodak, Tn/Chucktown, Sc via Chicago & Burgh 3843WRX Points: 506Members Posts: 3,843 Titanium Tees
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    Not just inside 50 but more like inside 100. It’s more of a cast pattern.


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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-Maryland 2489WRX Points: 1,095Members Posts: 2,489 Platinum Tees
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    There's no single answer to this question. Some experts say that the short game swing is entirely different from your full swing. Other say that it's simply a shorter version of your full swing. We can argue about this until the next millennium, but there is no generally accepted answer.

  • Santiago GolfSantiago Golf I Strive to make you Better  5093WRX Points: 197Handicap: ???Members Posts: 5,093 Titanium Tees
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    My setup changes depending on club and shot (talking all shots, not just short game) but basically all im trying to do is move the club back with my both hands to a certain spot and swing the whole club towards the target.

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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8824WRX Points: 2,498Members Posts: 8,824 Titanium Tees
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    Slightly narrower stance, less pressure shift, inside 50 (or 100 for than manner) is never more than a 3/4 swing. 50yrd shot is a 9-3 LW

  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er  596WRX Points: 117Handicap: +2Members Posts: 596 Golden Tee
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    I make sure my takeaway tracks “up” more so...I tend to go “inside” more on full swings.

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  • JustsomeguyJustsomeguy  1199WRX Points: 215Handicap: 15Members Posts: 1,199 Platinum Tees
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    50-100 is a different set of decisions. But 50 and in is my favorite. As a mid capper, it's my best area, and this is my approach:
    1st, can I get to where I need to go without height. If yes, I use either my AW (52*) or 8i for a bump and run. AW if I need to start w height then run out. 8i if I'm traversing a short distance of fairway to get to the front of the green.
    2nd, if I do need height, do I still hit that 52 just higher? Need height if there's ugly fairway or a trap or whatnot. Or I will hit my 56 but plan for less rollout.
    3rd, if there's some flop aspect needed. If that's the case, I'll open the face and use the bounce of my 56 or 59 to get under and popup. This for short sided leaves or if I missed an elevated green, and need to get up and plunk down without much run out.
    So i try to execute the simplest shot first, bump and run or a 52 or 47 chip, keeping it low. If that won't work, I'll use my 56 to fly and land for less roll out. And if I need a high shot it's the 56 or 59.
    I don't know why some people use only a 58-60 for everything. I could understand a 54-56 bc more versatile, but it must be hard to get a 60 to run out on the low ones. Why not use a lower loft and take some action out.

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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Los Angeles 6007WRX Points: 693Members Posts: 6,007 Titanium Tees
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    My short yardage swing is def different. It’s more of an arm hand swing so I have more awareness of face and path. I don’t need power but precision and know how much arm swing for distance and wedge. This works for me very well.

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  • DFinchDFinch  1465WRX Points: 255Handicap: 6.5Members Posts: 1,465 Platinum Tees
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    Depends on the specific shot/spin/trajectory I'm trying to play, of course, but in general I use less arm swing, wider (less right elbow fold), more of a body turn driven feel with a natural "soft" wrist set. All meant to focus on directional control and shallow impact.

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  • SEP1006SEP1006 Pearland, Tx. 1244WRX Points: 296Handicap: 10ClubWRX Posts: 1,244 ClubWRX
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    Well I got one for you. 50 yards and in I go cross-handed and will never go back to conventional. I took a golf break for a little over a year after my wife passed from cancer at 55. For whatever reason everything came back pretty quick but my chipping. Had a handicap that stayed around 7 but had the yips so bad I was ready to quit. Thought what the **** and went cross handed, saved my golf game for sure and my short game is by far the strongest and most consistent part of my game.


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  • GolfonthemindGolfonthemind  213WRX Points: 45Handicap: 7Members Posts: 213 Fairways
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    My swing intent is the exact same whether it’s a 3 yard chip or a full driver swing. Only difference is narrower stance and I take my arms less far back for shorter shots. Ball position, everything the same for all shots. I’ll open or close the club but never try and make adjustments to the actual swing.


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