Mizuno-More important than the feel....Mizuno is one of the most amateur friendly OEM's in market!

rxk9fanrxk9fan MidwestMembers Posts: 760 ✭✭
edited Apr 25, 2019 9:22am in Equipment #1

I have played multiple Mizuno forgings and can't whole heartedly agree that "nothing feels like a Mizuno".
But, after looking for my first GI iron to experiment with, my appreciation for Mizuno's business model in custom builds was totally reinforced! According to the shop I ordered from, it is making a difference with other buyers too with increased volume at his store.
While I believe most OEM's design quality products these days that perform great, Mizuno builds that product the way you need it without a bunch of up-charges. Obviously no one is going to pay me to play, but at least Mizuno does not charge me extra to play with what I need. When shopping my only two requirements were a build with Recoil 95gm stiff shafts and mid-size grips. I wanted 5i-PW only as I have the wedges and 3i/4i covered. Price for my 6 Mizuno GI's was $650 plus tax at my local shop. Price for other OEM's similar (in my eyes) products was a s***ton (technical term) more.
My question is, are other WRX's seeing this and does it make a difference in your buying decisions? When you get fit, does price make a difference when choosing if performance is close or does the absolute best numbers over-ride everything. Or is it feel and looks or what your favorite PGA player plays?
I know for me price is not the overriding factor in my choice. But what does make a difference is my perception that Mizuno caters to my amateur needs instead of charging me more and paying it out to a PGA professional for marketing.
This is not meant to be a rant, more of just an observation and wondering how others see it for the sake of conversation.

Mizuno 190ST with Tensei Blue Stiff
Taylormade M4 tour 3 wood with stiff Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Cobra Baffler 6 with UST Elements Stiff
Srixon U65 4i with SteelFiber R
Srixon Z765 with SteelFiber R shafts
or
Cobra Black Forged Tec 4i - AW with Recoil F4 shafts
Vokey 58, 54, 50
Taylormade Spider X

I am thinking about playing golf next year instead of HOing clubs!  
Oh, changed my mind and still HOing ....but HC finally moving in the right direction.
Definitions: HOing is changing any spot in your bag 3 or more times in a year
                   Optimizing is changing any/every spot in your bag up to twice a year :-)

Comments

  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,328 ClubWRX

    when the best is the least expensive, you just plunk down your coin and say thanks.
    This is not common these days.....

    TM Mini 11.5 Smoke 70
    F9 Tour 3w\13.5 - Smoke 70
    F9 Tour 5w\17.5- Smoke 70
    Epic hybrid - 22* Pro White 90
    Mizuno 919 combo 5-P - PX LZ 6.0
    Mizuno T7 - 48-53-58 - PX LZ 6.5
    Custom V-Line Fang
    TM TP5X
  • Lord HelmetLord Helmet Members Posts: 8,683 ✭✭

    @lawsonman said:
    You wouldn't feel that way about Mizuno if you were a lefty.

    Some truth in this.

    Cobra F9 - Atmos TS Black 6x
    Cobra F9 3w - Atmos TS Blue 7x
    718 TMB 19* - DG AMT White s300
    Srixon 565/765 Combo 5-PW - Project X 5.5hs
    SM5 50,54,58,62 - F,K,S Grinds - Rifle 6.0
    Bettinardi Inovai 3.0 CS
    Pro V1x
  • cane700cane700 Members Posts: 2,014 ✭✭

    Would be nice if they had more lefty offerings but the ones they have are good.

  • Lord HelmetLord Helmet Members Posts: 8,683 ✭✭

    @cane700 said:
    Would be nice if they had more lefty offerings but the ones they have are good.

    No doubt about that. One of my favorite all time is the MX200. I still, to this day, kick myself for not keeping them. I took the blue badges out of the cavity and they rocked. **** I was stupid to get rid of them.
    I never did really understand why they only offered LH in the 52, 3, 4 series and then the 68s. No lefty in the low 60 series. Would have been a beautiful combo setup - one I would have played.
    I would love to try the driver this year, the one with the sliding weights - but alas, no lefty.

    Cobra F9 - Atmos TS Black 6x
    Cobra F9 3w - Atmos TS Blue 7x
    718 TMB 19* - DG AMT White s300
    Srixon 565/765 Combo 5-PW - Project X 5.5hs
    SM5 50,54,58,62 - F,K,S Grinds - Rifle 6.0
    Bettinardi Inovai 3.0 CS
    Pro V1x
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,360 ✭✭
    edited Apr 25, 2019 1:03pm #7

    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping G400 Max 9 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14* w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW w/S300
    Callaway MD Forged 52,56 w/S300
    Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/s300
    SGC Northwood Center Shaft 400g
  • lawsonmanlawsonman Members Posts: 5,238 ✭✭

    @MtlJeff said:
    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

    Ping G400 9°
    Ping Anser 17,20,23, hybrid
    Ping G25 6-UW
    Ping Glide 54,58ES
    Ping Ketsch Vault 2.0
    Ping DLX Bag

    Snell MTB Black
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,360 ✭✭

    @lawsonman said:

    @MtlJeff said:
    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    I know but that's still not a lot. S300, KBS tour, PX LZ. A few lightweight ones.

    Nothing to write home about. Probably a little something for everyone but no c taper, no PX, no AMT, no modus 125 or 130 etc.

    Almost every other MFRs will offer every shaft Ping does plus 10-15 more

    Ping G400 Max 9 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14* w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW w/S300
    Callaway MD Forged 52,56 w/S300
    Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/s300
    SGC Northwood Center Shaft 400g
  • howellhandmadehowellhandmade Members Posts: 736 ✭✭

    Is any manufacturer more tall golfer-friendly than Mizuno? Ping lost me as a loyalist when they stopped making B weight heads and the lightest swing weight I could get at +1” was D6. Went to Mizuno and haven’t looked back.

  • nostaticnostatic "i drank what?!?" Socrates lost angelesClubWRX Posts: 179 ClubWRX

    I started with a test 7i HMP, then slowly added the rest of the set. Price is more than fair, enough no-cost options to keep me happy, shipping was quick and they perform great. Not a lot to hate there...

    Ping G400Max 10.5 XTorsion S - Cobra F9 3W 16 Devo7 S - F9 3H Devo8 S 
    Mizuno 919 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW - 919F GW - S18 55/09 PX LZ Tour 6.0 - Ping Glide2.0 Stealth 58TS
    Odyssey StrokeLab Double Wide Flow
  • gbartkogbartko Whooooo! Members Posts: 663 ✭✭

    Mizuno refinanced my house, lowered my bad cholesterol and jollied my roger.... ymmv

    Ping Rapture 12.5
    TEE CB4 Tour 16.5
    Callaway x2Hot Pro 20/23
    Ping i E1 5-U
    Ping Glide ES 54.5/60
    Ping iN Half Wack-e
    Titleist DT TruSoft

  • rex235rex235 ClubWRX Posts: 3,987 ClubWRX

    At one time Mizuno made LH Blade irons, but they weren't found here in the United States.
    The Mizuno USA person was left handed, and at the time commented about the lack of LH golf equipment, saying, "I have nowhere to hide." Dont know what happened to him.
    Mizuno posted their reasoning for the lack of LH models on their website.
    Even though it is 2019, and LH golfers have been on National Championship Teams, Mizuno has no plans to offer a LH version of their Tour irons. Another year of -RH Only.

  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members Posts: 1,144 ✭✭

    I’ve had enjoyable buying experiences with my MP60s, 900T and 18MB, so I do agree with most of the comments.

    I’ve also experimented with Ping, Srixon and Callaway, a hit and miss in certain areas from product and customer service.

    Epic SZ 10*, Tensei White 75
    Epic SZ Strong 3 Wood, 13.5*
    U45 17*, Recoil 110
    3-PW Mizuno MP18 Blades
    Mizuno T7s 54-8 SW and 58-12 LW
    Odyssey RX9
  • lawsonmanlawsonman Members Posts: 5,238 ✭✭

    @MtlJeff said:

    @lawsonman said:

    @MtlJeff said:
    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    I know but that's still not a lot. S300, KBS tour, PX LZ. A few lightweight ones.

    Nothing to write home about. Probably a little something for everyone but no c taper, no PX, no AMT, no modus 125 or 130 etc.

    Almost every other MFRs will offer every shaft Ping does plus 10-15 more

    The S300's you're playing now aren't cutting it?

    Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

    Ping G400 9°
    Ping Anser 17,20,23, hybrid
    Ping G25 6-UW
    Ping Glide 54,58ES
    Ping Ketsch Vault 2.0
    Ping DLX Bag

    Snell MTB Black
  • HackerD  HackerD Student of the game Members Posts: 3,150 ✭✭

    Would Mizuno do 3/8” gaps and variable swingweight to approximately MOI match? That’s what I’m waiting for.

    Ping G30 12°
    Adams Tight Lies Ti 3w
    Cally X2 Hot 3-4H
    Mizuno JPX-850 5-GW
    Vokey SM 54.14
    Cally MD PM 58.10
    SC Studio Select Newport 2
  • jasonp87jasonp87 Members Posts: 2,102 ✭✭

    @HackerD said:
    Would Mizuno do 3/8” gaps and variable swingweight to approximately MOI match? That’s what I’m waiting for.

    Nope. No OEM will through their custom department.

    If you can get a tour van hookup maybe.

    The best you can do with Mizuno is just order them uncut.

    Driver
    TM M3 (8.5) Aldila NV 2KXV Orange 6X 45"
    3W
    TM M3 (16) Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X 43.25"
    5W
    TM M3 (19) Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 7X 42.25"
    3i
    TM TP UDI (20.5) Dynamic Gold X100
    Irons
    Mizuno MP4 (4-PW) Modus 3 125X
    Wedges---TM Milled Grind Modus 3 125X (48) & TM Hi-Toe (54)(60) Modus 3 125 Wedge
    Putter
    TM Spider Tour Black (DJ) 34" SS Pistol GTR
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,360 ✭✭

    @lawsonman said:

    @MtlJeff said:

    @lawsonman said:

    @MtlJeff said:
    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    I know but that's still not a lot. S300, KBS tour, PX LZ. A few lightweight ones.

    Nothing to write home about. Probably a little something for everyone but no c taper, no PX, no AMT, no modus 125 or 130 etc.

    Almost every other MFRs will offer every shaft Ping does plus 10-15 more

    The S300's you're playing now aren't cutting it?

    For G410 they'd be fine. For I210 I'd want something easier to get the 3-4 irons higher, AMT tour white or Nippon 130's. Been having problems lately with launch of low lofted irons. Next iron set will probably be one of those 2 shafts unless I go SGI

    Ping G400 Max 9 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14* w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW w/S300
    Callaway MD Forged 52,56 w/S300
    Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/s300
    SGC Northwood Center Shaft 400g
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