Mizuno-More important than the feel....Mizuno is one of the most amateur friendly OEM's in market!

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rxk9fanrxk9fan Midwest 936WRX Points: 236Handicap: 6.9Members Posts: 936 Golden Tee
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I have played multiple Mizuno forgings and can't whole heartedly agree that "nothing feels like a Mizuno".
But, after looking for my first GI iron to experiment with, my appreciation for Mizuno's business model in custom builds was totally reinforced! According to the shop I ordered from, it is making a difference with other buyers too with increased volume at his store.
While I believe most OEM's design quality products these days that perform great, Mizuno builds that product the way you need it without a bunch of up-charges. Obviously no one is going to pay me to play, but at least Mizuno does not charge me extra to play with what I need. When shopping my only two requirements were a build with Recoil 95gm stiff shafts and mid-size grips. I wanted 5i-PW only as I have the wedges and 3i/4i covered. Price for my 6 Mizuno GI's was $650 plus tax at my local shop. Price for other OEM's similar (in my eyes) products was a s***ton (technical term) more.
My question is, are other WRX's seeing this and does it make a difference in your buying decisions? When you get fit, does price make a difference when choosing if performance is close or does the absolute best numbers over-ride everything. Or is it feel and looks or what your favorite PGA player plays?
I know for me price is not the overriding factor in my choice. But what does make a difference is my perception that Mizuno caters to my amateur needs instead of charging me more and paying it out to a PGA professional for marketing.
This is not meant to be a rant, more of just an observation and wondering how others see it for the sake of conversation.

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Titleist TS3 with Evenflow White T1100 stiff
Taylormade M4 tour 3 wood with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff
Srixon Z H85 19 degree hybrid with Fujikura Pro stiff
Taylormade M6 Rescue 22 degree with Fujikura Pro stiff
Bridgestone J15 CB with Steelfiber FC95 CW stiff
Vokey 50 F, 54 S, 58 K
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  • WarrickWarrick  11150WRX Points: 1,090Handicap: 7ClubWRX Posts: 11,150 ClubWRX
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    when the best is the least expensive, you just plunk down your coin and say thanks.
    This is not common these days.....

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    Mizuno T7 - 45-49-53-58 LZ Blackout 
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  • Lord HelmetLord Helmet  8781WRX Points: 304Members Posts: 8,781 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @lawsonman said:

    You wouldn't feel that way about Mizuno if you were a lefty.

    Some truth in this.

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  • cane700cane700  2029WRX Points: 137Members Posts: 2,029 Platinum Tees
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    Would be nice if they had more lefty offerings but the ones they have are good.

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    On -, @cane700 said:

    Would be nice if they had more lefty offerings but the ones they have are good.

    No doubt about that. One of my favorite all time is the MX200. I still, to this day, kick myself for not keeping them. I took the blue badges out of the cavity and they rocked. **** I was stupid to get rid of them.
    I never did really understand why they only offered LH in the 52, 3, 4 series and then the 68s. No lefty in the low 60 series. Would have been a beautiful combo setup - one I would have played.
    I would love to try the driver this year, the one with the sliding weights - but alas, no lefty.

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    M5 - UST V2 6f5
    Cobra F9 3w - Atmos TS Blue 7x
    Speedback F9 4i - DG 105 x100
    Srixon 565/765 Combo 5-PW - Project X 5.5hs
    SM5 50,54,58,62 - F,K,S Grinds - Rifle 6.0
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 29345WRX Points: 2,243Handicap: 0.0Members Posts: 29,345 Titanium Tees
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    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

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    Ping G400 Max w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Ping G400 Crossover 20 w/ KBS Hybrid Prototype 85
    Ping G410 4-SW w/DG 300
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2.0 PM 60
    SGC NorthWood CS 400g 
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  • braincramp52braincramp52 Freeport, Illinois 6159WRX Points: 1,440Handicap: 10Members Posts: 6,159 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

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    Ping G400 driver
    Ping Anser 17,20,23,27 Hybrids 
    Wilson Staff MB's 6-PW
    Ping Glide 3.0 50*
    Ping, Glide 54,58ES Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Newport 3

    Snell MTB X


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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 29345WRX Points: 2,243Handicap: 0.0Members Posts: 29,345 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @lawsonman said:

    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    I know but that's still not a lot. S300, KBS tour, PX LZ. A few lightweight ones.

    Nothing to write home about. Probably a little something for everyone but no c taper, no PX, no AMT, no modus 125 or 130 etc.

    Almost every other MFRs will offer every shaft Ping does plus 10-15 more

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    Ping G400 Max w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Ping G400 Crossover 20 w/ KBS Hybrid Prototype 85
    Ping G410 4-SW w/DG 300
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2.0 PM 60
    SGC NorthWood CS 400g 
  • howellhandmadehowellhandmade  865WRX Points: 261Members Posts: 865 Golden Tee
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    Is any manufacturer more tall golfer-friendly than Mizuno? Ping lost me as a loyalist when they stopped making B weight heads and the lightest swing weight I could get at +1” was D6. Went to Mizuno and haven’t looked back.

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    I started with a test 7i HMP, then slowly added the rest of the set. Price is more than fair, enough no-cost options to keep me happy, shipping was quick and they perform great. Not a lot to hate there...

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    Ping G400Max 10.5 XTorsion S - Cobra F9 3W 16 Devo7 S - F9 3H Devo8 S 
    Mizuno 919 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW - 919F GW - S18 55/09 PX LZ Tour 6.0 - Ping Glide2.0 Stealth 58TS
    Odyssey StrokeLab Double Wide Flow
  • gbartkogbartko Whooooo!  668WRX Points: 224Members Posts: 668 Golden Tee
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    Mizuno refinanced my house, lowered my bad cholesterol and jollied my roger.... ymmv

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  • rex235rex235  4045WRX Points: 193ClubWRX Posts: 4,045 ClubWRX
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    At one time Mizuno made LH Blade irons, but they weren't found here in the United States.
    The Mizuno USA person was left handed, and at the time commented about the lack of LH golf equipment, saying, "I have nowhere to hide." Dont know what happened to him.
    Mizuno posted their reasoning for the lack of LH models on their website.
    Even though it is 2019, and LH golfers have been on National Championship Teams, Mizuno has no plans to offer a LH version of their Tour irons. Another year of -RH Only.

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  • Chuck905Chuck905  1382WRX Points: 243Handicap: 7Members Posts: 1,382 Platinum Tees
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    I’ve had enjoyable buying experiences with my MP60s, 900T and 18MB, so I do agree with most of the comments.

    I’ve also experimented with Ping, Srixon and Callaway, a hit and miss in certain areas from product and customer service.

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  • braincramp52braincramp52 Freeport, Illinois 6159WRX Points: 1,440Handicap: 10Members Posts: 6,159 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    On -, @lawsonman said:

    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    I know but that's still not a lot. S300, KBS tour, PX LZ. A few lightweight ones.

    Nothing to write home about. Probably a little something for everyone but no c taper, no PX, no AMT, no modus 125 or 130 etc.

    Almost every other MFRs will offer every shaft Ping does plus 10-15 more

    The S300's you're playing now aren't cutting it?

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    Ping G400 driver
    Ping Anser 17,20,23,27 Hybrids 
    Wilson Staff MB's 6-PW
    Ping Glide 3.0 50*
    Ping, Glide 54,58ES Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Newport 3

    Snell MTB X


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  • HackerD  HackerD Student of the game  3213WRX Points: 185Members Posts: 3,213 Titanium Tees
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    Would Mizuno do 3/8” gaps and variable swingweight to approximately MOI match? That’s what I’m waiting for.

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    Adams Tight Lies Ti 3w
    Cally X2 Hot 3-4H
    Mizuno JPX-850 5-GW
    Vokey SM 54.14
    Cally MD PM 58.10
    SC Studio Select Newport 2
  • jasonp87jasonp87  2142WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 2,142 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @HackerD said:

    Would Mizuno do 3/8” gaps and variable swingweight to approximately MOI match? That’s what I’m waiting for.

    Nope. No OEM will through their custom department.

    If you can get a tour van hookup maybe.

    The best you can do with Mizuno is just order them uncut.

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    5W
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    3i
    TM TP UDI (20.5) Dynamic Gold X100
    Irons
    Mizuno MP4 (4-PW) Modus 3 125X
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 29345WRX Points: 2,243Handicap: 0.0Members Posts: 29,345 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @lawsonman said:

    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    On -, @lawsonman said:

    On -, @MtlJeff said:

    To be honest IMO the only OEM still ripping you off for upcharges is Ping. They have by far the worst shaft selection, but even they offer more than anyone else in terms of loft customization as a "standard set". So there's something to be said for every OEM

    Have you checked out Cobra? You can get 20+ different shafts including "high end" offerings like the Nippon Modus 130 as a no-upcharge even on their more affordable sets like Forged Tec. Mizuno has a nice shaft selection too but they don't offer that

    The new Apex pro from Callaway is only 150$ more expensive here than the 919 Forged and has a wider shaft selection (pretty much all DG's, Nippons, KBS or PX are available). Grips are similar, i can't remember which MFR it was but some of them offer like 50 different no-upcharge grips

    I've been checking out a lot of irons lately, most MFR's offer a lot of custom options now which is great. Too bad i kinda want Ping's!

    Ping has over 10 different iron shafts now at no upcharge Jeff.

    I know but that's still not a lot. S300, KBS tour, PX LZ. A few lightweight ones.

    Nothing to write home about. Probably a little something for everyone but no c taper, no PX, no AMT, no modus 125 or 130 etc.

    Almost every other MFRs will offer every shaft Ping does plus 10-15 more

    The S300's you're playing now aren't cutting it?

    For G410 they'd be fine. For I210 I'd want something easier to get the 3-4 irons higher, AMT tour white or Nippon 130's. Been having problems lately with launch of low lofted irons. Next iron set will probably be one of those 2 shafts unless I go SGI

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    Ping G400 Max w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Ping G400 Crossover 20 w/ KBS Hybrid Prototype 85
    Ping G410 4-SW w/DG 300
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2.0 PM 60
    SGC NorthWood CS 400g 

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