M43's... To Refinish Or Not Refinish... That Is The Question

Just picked up a set of MacGregor M43's (1,3,4) and after receiving them I find they are in all original condition. Beautiful leather grips and matching neck numbers. Driver does not have a back weight. The faces are perfect and the necks are not cracked with the exception of a small one starting to creep out from the whipping of the driver, but only about a centimeter. Shafts are a bit pitted, but very playable. The whole set is pretty magnificent. The question is, should they be refinished or kept in this state. I am fairly certain they are very playable, but not sure I want to. I realize some pictures would be very nice and I will post them later. This is one of those instances where I am not sure if they are more valuable in their original state or after they have been refinished properly. Dying to hit the driver, but I think I need to re-shaft it to make sure everything stays in good shape. Thoughts??

WITB
Hogan 1959 Sunburst Sabers 2-9, Equalizer, Utility Wedge
MacGregor M75w Woods #1, #3, #4
1950's MacGregor "Ben Hogan" Parmaker putter


Additional Clubs\Sets
MacGregor 1952 M85 1,2,3,4
MacGregor 1949 Tommy Armour 693 1,2,3,4
MacGregor M75 Eye-O-Matic 1,2,3,4
Macgregor 945w #3
Macgregor 1950 M43 1,3,4
Macgregor Tommy Armour Pro Model Driver
Hogan 1959 Speed Slot 300, "Long John" Persimmon, 1,2,3,4
Hogan 1960 Persimmon Speed Slot 203 Woods, 1,2,3,4
Hogan 1960 Power Thrust 2-9, Equalizer

Comments

  • deejaiddeejaid Members Posts: 480 ✭✭

    Things are only original once, whether it’s a vintage car or a golf club. If the clubs are all original, present well, and are playable, I’d keep them as is.

    I’d also consider re-epoxy the face insert and sole plate and new whipping as general maintenance to keep the clubs playable without sacrificing the originality.

    I’ve been wanting a set of M43’s for awhile, I look forward to your pictures.

    WITB
    Macgregor M09 driver
    Macgregor M85 Super Eye-O-Matic 3&4 woods
    Cleveland Classic TC15 5-wood
    2006 Ben Hogan Apex 4-E
    Ben Hogan TK15 51* 
    Ben Hogan Special Sand Iron
    Ping bronze Anser
  • northplatterivernorthplatteriver Members Posts: 229 ✭✭

    Pictures






    WITB
    Hogan 1959 Sunburst Sabers 2-9, Equalizer, Utility Wedge
    MacGregor M75w Woods #1, #3, #4
    1950's MacGregor "Ben Hogan" Parmaker putter


    Additional Clubs\Sets
    MacGregor 1952 M85 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor 1949 Tommy Armour 693 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor M75 Eye-O-Matic 1,2,3,4
    Macgregor 945w #3
    Macgregor 1950 M43 1,3,4
    Macgregor Tommy Armour Pro Model Driver
    Hogan 1959 Speed Slot 300, "Long John" Persimmon, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Persimmon Speed Slot 203 Woods, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Power Thrust 2-9, Equalizer
  • Ironmaster OdditiesIronmaster Oddities Members Posts: 1,413 ✭✭

    clean them up a little bit and do not refinish. they are superb. The father of the 693 model.

  • northplatterivernorthplatteriver Members Posts: 229 ✭✭

    I am leaning in the "not refinish" direction also. I do want to address the small creeping neck crack on the big dog however, so most likely at least need to pull it and epoxy that in addition to inserts and sole plates, although I am not 100% on those. The 3 wood hits great with out any changes. So does one just use a bit of tung oil on these to protect them from water?

    WITB
    Hogan 1959 Sunburst Sabers 2-9, Equalizer, Utility Wedge
    MacGregor M75w Woods #1, #3, #4
    1950's MacGregor "Ben Hogan" Parmaker putter


    Additional Clubs\Sets
    MacGregor 1952 M85 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor 1949 Tommy Armour 693 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor M75 Eye-O-Matic 1,2,3,4
    Macgregor 945w #3
    Macgregor 1950 M43 1,3,4
    Macgregor Tommy Armour Pro Model Driver
    Hogan 1959 Speed Slot 300, "Long John" Persimmon, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Persimmon Speed Slot 203 Woods, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Power Thrust 2-9, Equalizer
  • RobotDoctorRobotDoctor Senior Hacker ClubWRX Posts: 4,545 ClubWRX
    edited Apr 25, 2019 11:11pm #6

    If I were you northplatteriver wouldn't waste the money in refinishing them or play them or even keep them. I'd sell them to RobotDoctor and rid of such hideous clubs!

    :p

    Beautiful. These would restore so beautifully but look terrific as they are!

    Taylormade M3 (2018 tour head) 9.9 degree Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S
    Titleist 906F2 15 degree Fujikura Pro 73 Tour Spec stiff
    Taylormade SLDR 2 Hybrid Graphite Design Tour  AD DI-Hybrid 85 stiff
    Ben Hogan '99 Apex Blades (3-PW) Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    Miura 52* GW KBS Tour stiff
    Scratch Golf LW Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    Byron Morgan Epic Day Long Pipe Copper plated
    BestGrips Augusta Microperf grips
  • freddiecfreddiec Members Posts: 4,268 ✭✭

    RobotDr has a thing for M43s and M85s. Oh and 693s and 945s..

    They look amazing , I’d keep them all original at least for a year or so until you can’t stand it anymore

  • RobotDoctorRobotDoctor Senior Hacker ClubWRX Posts: 4,545 ClubWRX

    @freddiec said:
    RobotDr has a thing for M43s and M85s. Oh and 693s and 945s..

    They look amazing , I’d keep them all original at least for a year or so until you can’t stand it anymore

    AND LFFs!

    Taylormade M3 (2018 tour head) 9.9 degree Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S
    Titleist 906F2 15 degree Fujikura Pro 73 Tour Spec stiff
    Taylormade SLDR 2 Hybrid Graphite Design Tour  AD DI-Hybrid 85 stiff
    Ben Hogan '99 Apex Blades (3-PW) Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    Miura 52* GW KBS Tour stiff
    Scratch Golf LW Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    Byron Morgan Epic Day Long Pipe Copper plated
    BestGrips Augusta Microperf grips
  • northplatterivernorthplatteriver Members Posts: 229 ✭✭

    I agree. No rush to do anything with them other than make sure they are solid for playing. This set really filled a great gap in my collection also. Still waiting for a nice set of 945's myself (and an LFF...a guy can dream). I did see a posting on facebook where someone was asking if an LFF got snatched up with a couple of 945's on Ebay a few days ago. I remember seeing the posting myself, but it was gone fairly quickly and the sold listing never came up. Never did find out if it was an unlisted LFF or not, but it did look like it had a massive face.

    WITB
    Hogan 1959 Sunburst Sabers 2-9, Equalizer, Utility Wedge
    MacGregor M75w Woods #1, #3, #4
    1950's MacGregor "Ben Hogan" Parmaker putter


    Additional Clubs\Sets
    MacGregor 1952 M85 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor 1949 Tommy Armour 693 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor M75 Eye-O-Matic 1,2,3,4
    Macgregor 945w #3
    Macgregor 1950 M43 1,3,4
    Macgregor Tommy Armour Pro Model Driver
    Hogan 1959 Speed Slot 300, "Long John" Persimmon, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Persimmon Speed Slot 203 Woods, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Power Thrust 2-9, Equalizer
  • freddiecfreddiec Members Posts: 4,268 ✭✭

    I heard the seller pulled the listing because he hit that black headed driver well and decided to keep it.

  • robert hornemanrobert horneman ClubWRX Posts: 1,039 ✭✭

    These are perfect candidates for refinishing. Don't know if you have the knowledge, tools or experience to do the job properly. If not find someone who can do it. PM me if you can or can't do it.

  • MaxwellMaxwell Max Members Posts: 686 ✭✭

    Clean'em up and put them on display.
    Blair
    Canada

    "One Day At a Time"
  • freddiecfreddiec Members Posts: 4,268 ✭✭

    Yes , agree after looking at pics again and seeing those wounds i’d Invest in a good refinish. They would clean up well.

  • northplatterivernorthplatteriver Members Posts: 229 ✭✭

    Robert, I do agree they would be excellent candidates for a refinish job. At this point I know I do not have the skills to do them justice, but that is the certainly one of my long term goals. Slowly building my arsenal of tools, books and information on how to do correct and proper restorations of these gems. At this point all I really have time for is just collecting the raw materials and wait (daughter leaves for college next near). Still slowly working on my M85 that you have provided me some tips on that I am taking to heart. This forum is really where it all started for me. Hope I have some works I can present to the group at some point that approach some of the masterpieces in your collections. Wiffle balls in the basement are all the action these babies will see...for now.

    WITB
    Hogan 1959 Sunburst Sabers 2-9, Equalizer, Utility Wedge
    MacGregor M75w Woods #1, #3, #4
    1950's MacGregor "Ben Hogan" Parmaker putter


    Additional Clubs\Sets
    MacGregor 1952 M85 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor 1949 Tommy Armour 693 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor M75 Eye-O-Matic 1,2,3,4
    Macgregor 945w #3
    Macgregor 1950 M43 1,3,4
    Macgregor Tommy Armour Pro Model Driver
    Hogan 1959 Speed Slot 300, "Long John" Persimmon, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Persimmon Speed Slot 203 Woods, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Power Thrust 2-9, Equalizer
  • northplatterivernorthplatteriver Members Posts: 229 ✭✭

    Addendum... looks like i have stumbled upon a 2 wood for the set that also has the same matching shaft and leather grip. It was re-finshed back in the 90's by George Izett from what the previous owner has told me and appears to be in beautiful shape with the exception that there are 5 screws in the face insert!!!


    . Will have to be addressed when I either refinish the other 3 or have someone do it for me. Also picked up an M43 driver with an S300 shaft and no backweight in the deal among a few other little gems I will post after I get them.

    WITB
    Hogan 1959 Sunburst Sabers 2-9, Equalizer, Utility Wedge
    MacGregor M75w Woods #1, #3, #4
    1950's MacGregor "Ben Hogan" Parmaker putter


    Additional Clubs\Sets
    MacGregor 1952 M85 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor 1949 Tommy Armour 693 1,2,3,4
    MacGregor M75 Eye-O-Matic 1,2,3,4
    Macgregor 945w #3
    Macgregor 1950 M43 1,3,4
    Macgregor Tommy Armour Pro Model Driver
    Hogan 1959 Speed Slot 300, "Long John" Persimmon, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Persimmon Speed Slot 203 Woods, 1,2,3,4
    Hogan 1960 Power Thrust 2-9, Equalizer
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