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**** Ball Test - General Discussion

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rkelso184rkelso184 Members  353WRX Points: 196Posts: 353 Greens
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Obviously this is coming out shortly. Do you think many companies are nervous? Will this make you change your ball?

I think it will come down to some cheaper firm ball with good durability and not so much a big names top offering. I know top quality balls clearly make a difference but I also know alot of players who can still rip a no brand ball and shoot under par. Obviously companies pay players to use a certain ball which is why they do and why they have such a strong presence but also were not them players!

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  • jjfcpajjfcpa Golf Nut Omaha, NEMembers  916WRX Points: 307Handicap: 12Posts: 916 Golden Tee
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    I'm guessing that what they found is that there is not that much difference between the middle tier ball and the top tier ball. Most 3 piece urethane balls will perform similarly and most 2 piece non urethane balls will perform similarly. Consequently, spending the extra money for the big brand names may not be providing you with much in the way of additional performance. The real difference between those balls will come down to dollars and cents, not performance. What I don't know, and would be very interested in, is if they will address the issue of lower compression balls providing better performance for slower swing speeds.

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    My guess is they found large differences in the quality and consistency with some companies products.

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    I dont see why anyone would change. Each person will have different results with each ball. Use what works for you

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  • cpeckcpeck North new jerseyMembers  651WRX Points: 303Handicap: leftyPosts: 651 Golden Tee
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    On -, @jjfcpa is that last sentence a fact?
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  • Joker91Joker91 Westminster, COMembers  572WRX Points: 280Handicap: 8.8Posts: 572 Golden Tee
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    What test and who is doing it?

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    On -, @cpeck said:

    On -, @jjfcpa is that last sentence a fact?

    On -, @cpeck said:

    On -, @jjfcpa is that last sentence a fact?

    Definitely not a fact, but a if you look at packaging and website info for golf balls, you see comments like "for ball swings under 105" or "for ball swings over 105". What exactly is this implying? If you don't have a fast enough swing then you won't be able to compress the ball and it will result in less distance.

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    On -, @jjfcpa said:

    I'm guessing that what they found is that there is not that much difference between the middle tier ball and the top tier ball. Most 3 piece urethane balls will perform similarly and most 2 piece non urethane balls will perform similarly. Consequently, spending the extra money for the big brand names may not be providing you with much in the way of additional performance. The real difference between those balls will come down to dollars and cents, not performance. What I don't know, and would be very interested in, is if they will address the issue of lower compression balls providing better performance for slower swing speeds.

    From what Dean Snell has said, the lower compression being better for lower swing speeds is mostly a myth. On the other end, it's try super high swing speeds 120+ can lose ball speed off the driver and fairway woods with a too soft ball. But the reverse isn't really true. A slower player doesn't get more ball speed by playing a softer ball. And when you stop and think about it, it makes sense. TXG tests show that Matt doesn't lose any ball speed on a soft ball with a 6i or wedge. He only loses ball speed when he moves up to a driver or fairway wood. The soft ball also doesn't give him more speed off a wedge or 6i, where his ball speed corresponds to a 90MPH player's 6i and driver speeds.

    I've also wondered about the idea that a soft ball is better in the cold. I wouldn't think the temperature of the ball would effect distance much. What I think might be happening is that the cold air is denser so spin effects the flight off the ball more (as there is more air to interact with the spin creating more friction). A softer ball generates less spin, so the ball will go further in cold conditions simply because it is spinning less.

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    On -, @Joker91 said:

    On -, @North Butte said:

    On -, @Joker91 said:

    What test and who is doing it?

    A certain Site Who Must Not Be Named but whose name rhymes with "high golf pie".

    Ok so not a real test then. I can skip it

    You have learned well, young Grasshopper. There is nothing more for me to teach you.

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  • kiw1982kiw1982 Salisbury, MDMembers  1239WRX Points: 161Handicap: 7Posts: 1,239 Platinum Tees
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    I am interested in this coming result, but I got sick of their super long tease.

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    On -, @arbeck said:

    I've also wondered about the idea that a soft ball is better in the cold. I wouldn't think the temperature of the ball would effect distance much. What I think might be happening is that the cold air is denser so spin effects the flight off the ball more (as there is more air to interact with the spin creating more friction). A softer ball generates less spin, so the ball will go further in cold conditions simply because it is spinning less.

    Think I remember reading that cold can have a detectable but marginal effect on the elasticity of core materials, but that we're talking about really "cold soaking" golf balls (keeping them very cold for a very long time). If you're in conditions where that becomes a factor, I have to question the wisdom of playing in conditions like that in the first place...LOL

    The increasing density of air as temperature decreases and the increased drag that results from that has much more to do with distance loss as temps drop.

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    On -, @North Butte said:

    On -, @Joker91 said:

    What test and who is doing it?

    A certain Site Who Must Not Be Named but whose name rhymes with "high golf pie".

    Well now, look who's back after almost 6 months

    Welcome back NB !!! Hope all is well.

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  • arbeckarbeck SeattleMembers  703WRX Points: 393Handicap: 14.5Posts: 703 Golden Tee
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    The most interesting thing about the ball test is probably going to be learning about QC in the brands. They have teased on twitter one brand of ball (unnamed) that had 3 different compression numbers ranging in 30 points from the same box when tested. Titlesist had some interesting videos with Crossfield where they had very small differences in dimple depth on one side of the ball that led to huge curvatures. Having a core misaligned at all could cause huge problems. These are also things that won't show up on an indoor launch monitor. You'll need Trackman outdoors to find this stuff out.

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  • lopey986lopey986 ClubWRX  2348WRX Points: 363Posts: 2,348 Platinum Tees
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    It's funny that the url for this discussion says **** but the actually title has the site name asterisks out like it's in the swear filter, lmao.

    hah, blurs the site name out in my comment too, now that's some funny ****.

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  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB) Members  3883WRX Points: 475Handicap: 6Posts: 3,883 Titanium Tees
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    I am interested in their results from the Callaway ERC Soft. I played it last weekend and found it be short and dead feeling. Disappointing to say the least, but the lines were good for putting. ;)

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    On -, @rgk5 said:

    I am interested in their results from the Callaway ERC Soft. I played it last weekend and found it be short and dead feeling. Disappointing to say the least, but the lines were good for putting. ;)

    I played the ERC Soft for about 4 or 5 rounds and didn't find it dead at all. Quite the opposite actually. And distance was excellent as well; almost as long as the AVX. I ended up back to the AVX because I didn't like the clicky feel, it seemed to release a bit too much on short irons shot to the green and it seemed a little too lively chipping.

    Strangely(?) enough, although I have a terrible time trying to get a single line on a golf ball pointed correctly for putting, the 3 line system was a lot easier to do it, so I did use the 3 lines and it seemed to work pretty well.

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    On -, @rgk5 said:

    I am interested in their results from the Callaway ERC Soft. I played it last weekend and found it be short and dead feeling. Disappointing to say the least, but the lines were good for putting. ;)

    Curious to see if they test Kirkland and how it compares. Some tee shots I feel it's on par with others, other shots I feel it spins much more than others.

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  • rgk5rgk5 rgk5(OLB) Members  3883WRX Points: 475Handicap: 6Posts: 3,883 Titanium Tees
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    It was cold (50*) and wet. I'll try it again tomorrow and Sunday when it should be in the low 60s.

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    On -, @North Butte said:

    On -, @Joker91 said:

    On -, @North Butte said:

    On -, @Joker91 said:

    What test and who is doing it?

    A certain Site Who Must Not Be Named but whose name rhymes with "high golf pie".

    Ok so not a real test then. I can skip it

    You have learned well, young Grasshopper. There is nothing more for me to teach you.

    Do they have a history of inaccurate tests? I’m not familiar.

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    On -, @FlashbackPT said:

    On -, @North Butte said:

    On -, @Joker91 said:

    On -, @North Butte said:

    On -, @Joker91 said:

    What test and who is doing it?

    A certain Site Who Must Not Be Named but whose name rhymes with "high golf pie".

    Ok so not a real test then. I can skip it

    You have learned well, young Grasshopper. There is nothing more for me to teach you.

    Do they have a history of inaccurate tests? I’m not familiar.

    They have been pretty good from my reading.... the big newsstand articles seem much less relevant IMHO...

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  • jcorna01jcorna01 Members  704WRX Points: 109Posts: 704 Golden Tee
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    I like the work they do and will definitely read this test. I have enough experience with my preferred ball that it won’t sway my opinion. I’m not much of an experimenter, though, at least when it comes to this.

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  • jjfcpajjfcpa Golf Nut Omaha, NEMembers  916WRX Points: 307Handicap: 12Posts: 916 Golden Tee
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    On -, @arbeck said:

    On -, @jjfcpa said:

    I'm guessing that what they found is that there is not that much difference between the middle tier ball and the top tier ball. Most 3 piece urethane balls will perform similarly and most 2 piece non urethane balls will perform similarly. Consequently, spending the extra money for the big brand names may not be providing you with much in the way of additional performance. The real difference between those balls will come down to dollars and cents, not performance. What I don't know, and would be very interested in, is if they will address the issue of lower compression balls providing better performance for slower swing speeds.

    From what Dean Snell has said, the lower compression being better for lower swing speeds is mostly a myth. On the other end, it's try super high swing speeds 120+ can lose ball speed off the driver and fairway woods with a too soft ball. But the reverse isn't really true. A slower player doesn't get more ball speed by playing a softer ball. And when you stop and think about it, it makes sense. TXG tests show that Matt doesn't lose any ball speed on a soft ball with a 6i or wedge. He only loses ball speed when he moves up to a driver or fairway wood. The soft ball also doesn't give him more speed off a wedge or 6i, where his ball speed corresponds to a 90MPH player's 6i and driver speeds.

    I've also wondered about the idea that a soft ball is better in the cold. I wouldn't think the temperature of the ball would effect distance much. What I think might be happening is that the cold air is denser so spin effects the flight off the ball more (as there is more air to interact with the spin creating more friction). A softer ball generates less spin, so the ball will go further in cold conditions simply because it is spinning less.

    I've seen lots of product specs related to golf balls that say, for example, "for swing speeds below 105", "for swing speeds above 105". I can see why they would say for swing speeds "below 105" because those with high swings might lose distance; but why say anything regarding "swings speeds above 105" if there is no detriment to distance if they have a slower swing speed? I know Bridgestone's product specs includes this information and probably others...

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    On -, @jjfcpa said:

    On -, @arbeck said:

    On -, @jjfcpa said:

    I'm guessing that what they found is that there is not that much difference between the middle tier ball and the top tier ball. Most 3 piece urethane balls will perform similarly and most 2 piece non urethane balls will perform similarly. Consequently, spending the extra money for the big brand names may not be providing you with much in the way of additional performance. The real difference between those balls will come down to dollars and cents, not performance. What I don't know, and would be very interested in, is if they will address the issue of lower compression balls providing better performance for slower swing speeds.

    From what Dean Snell has said, the lower compression being better for lower swing speeds is mostly a myth. On the other end, it's try super high swing speeds 120+ can lose ball speed off the driver and fairway woods with a too soft ball. But the reverse isn't really true. A slower player doesn't get more ball speed by playing a softer ball. And when you stop and think about it, it makes sense. TXG tests show that Matt doesn't lose any ball speed on a soft ball with a 6i or wedge. He only loses ball speed when he moves up to a driver or fairway wood. The soft ball also doesn't give him more speed off a wedge or 6i, where his ball speed corresponds to a 90MPH player's 6i and driver speeds.

    I've also wondered about the idea that a soft ball is better in the cold. I wouldn't think the temperature of the ball would effect distance much. What I think might be happening is that the cold air is denser so spin effects the flight off the ball more (as there is more air to interact with the spin creating more friction). A softer ball generates less spin, so the ball will go further in cold conditions simply because it is spinning less.

    I've seen lots of product specs related to golf balls that say, for example, "for swing speeds below 105", "for swing speeds above 105". I can see why they would say for swing speeds "below 105" because those with high swings might lose distance; but why say anything regarding "swings speeds above 105" if there is no detriment to distance if they have a slower swing speed? I know Bridgestone's product specs includes this information and probably others...

    Something like 80% of Golfers prefer a softer ball. It just feels nicer to hit. Given that you can make a softer ball and slower swing speeds won't lose distance, it makes sense for a manufacturer to recommend the softer ball to them.

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    I still do not know who "they" are so I have no idea if I care about the ball test.

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    On -, @NJpatbee said:

    I still do not know who "they" are so I have no idea if I care about the ball test.

    Google “Tony Covey golf”.

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    Regarding the soft ball for slower swing speed debate, note that Bridgestone switched from swing speed to handicap for parsing out ball model recommendations. So, they're either assuming swing speed correlates directly with handicap (which it definitely doesn't), or they're saying more variables come into play than just raw swing speed. Like center-face hits for instance, which probably correlates pretty well with handicap. I think the tolerance of less than perfect strikes is the main benefit of soft balls, you can still compress the ball on less than perfect strikes. For a low handicap golfer that consistently compresses the ball, there is no need to take the tradeoffs associated with playing a softer ball. I don't think it is possible to maximize ball speed while at the same time maximizing the tolerance for variation in strike quality, hence the decrease in max ball speed on low compression balls vs high compression balls when both are struck purely.

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    On -, @noodle3872 said:

    On -, @NJpatbee said:

    I still do not know who "they" are so I have no idea if I care about the ball test.

    Google “Tony Covey golf”.

    Some say they are spy's who like the game of golf... I once saw them test the cortex driver on TV.

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    On -, @c50sooner said:

    Regarding the soft ball for slower swing speed debate, note that Bridgestone switched from swing speed to handicap for parsing out ball model recommendations. So, they're either assuming swing speed correlates directly with handicap (which it definitely doesn't), or they're saying more variables come into play than just raw swing speed. Like center-face hits for instance, which probably correlates pretty well with handicap. I think the tolerance of less than perfect strikes is the main benefit of soft balls, you can still compress the ball on less than perfect strikes. For a low handicap golfer that consistently compresses the ball, there is no need to take the tradeoffs associated with playing a softer ball. I don't think it is possible to maximize ball speed while at the same time maximizing the tolerance for variation in strike quality, hence the decrease in max ball speed on low compression balls vs high compression balls when both are struck purely.

    The best correlation in golf is:
    handicap average driver club speed

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    Interesting curve, thanks for posting. Not sure what kind of sample set that is showing, but my statement was based on all the guys in my golf league with way higher swing speed than me, that shoot way worse scores. I'm sure this is a common scenario, given that all you need to be able to swing a club fast is some strength/size and a reasonable amount of athleticism. Actual golf skill not required at all.

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