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  • gambitgambit Members  4458WRX Points: 267Posts: 4,458 Titanium Tees
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    I have an untipped 60 TX with 410 adapter if anyone's interested. PVD playing at 45". Hit less than 10 balls and was bought brand new.

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    SIM 9 / Tensei Pro Orange 60 TX

    SIM 3/5 Woods / Tensei Pro Blue 70/80 TX

    Tour Issue Adams Pro Mini 23 / AD DI 95x

    Ping Blueprints 5-P / Steelfiber i110S

    Ping Glide Forged 50-54-60 / Steelfiber i125S

    Byron Morgan DH89

    Titleist Linksmaster

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  • airjammerairjammer Members  1341WRX Points: 336Handicap: 4.2Posts: 1,341 Platinum Tees
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    Played 5 rounds with 6.5 tx straight in at around 110+ with a hard transition. I maybe I can’t give the shaft the proper flexing but I can’t tell any difference between it and pretty much any other shaft I played. I’m more of a indian than arrow type of guy so if I put a good swing on it I get a good result and bad swings gets a bad result..absolutely no surprises thou.

    That being said it’s the prettiest shaft I have ever played and will continue to play it just for that fact and I’m the type of person that doesn’t care about color of walls or logos on balls etc..so that’s saying a lot for me.

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  • mjbaker80mjbaker80 Members  835WRX Points: 297Handicap: 4.2Posts: 835 Golden Tee
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    Tried the TX, feels VERY different. I am not ultra fast but have played the T1100 60X for a long time and with huge success. The post about with the bend profile comparison certainly checked out in real life. The Hulk TX feels MUCH more like the T1100 than the regular X flex. I hit 11 fairways the first time out and was very, very pleased. At one point, I actually forgot that I had put the Hulk in mid-round bc I was swining so confidentially.
    Also, I heard Cam Champ put this in the bag?! That's big news! I believe he had a nice finish at the Northern Trust, too.....

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8165WRX Points: 1,386Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,165 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @mjbaker80 said:

    Tried the TX, feels VERY different. I am not ultra fast but have played the T1100 60X for a long time and with huge success. The post about with the bend profile comparison certainly checked out in real life. The Hulk TX feels MUCH more like the T1100 than the regular X flex. I hit 11 fairways the first time out and was very, very pleased. At one point, I actually forgot that I had put the Hulk in mid-round bc I was swining so confidentially.
    Also, I heard Cam Champ put this in the bag?! That's big news! I believe he had a nice finish at the Northern Trust, too.....

    It all makes sense then. I had the fuji pro 2.0 TS in 6x like cam...now I'm loving hulk...lol this shaft gets more and more fun as u play it. Way more confidence pulling the driver- may be searching for a heavier version for the 3w to be honest

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    Tour M3 460 / 10.1* (set -2*) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"
    SC Futura X Broomstick Putter experiment

  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8165WRX Points: 1,386Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,165 Titanium Tees
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    another round in the books with my epic flash SZ / Hulk setup - it loves to go straight or play a 10y cut; it CAN draw if you want it to -- but man does this thing just want to hold a line like crazy. i had a friend try mine and he thought with how stiff it should be that it would go right on him and he hit a seed down the left side of the fairway and faded back to the middle.

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    Tour M3 460 / 10.1* (set -2*) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"
    SC Futura X Broomstick Putter experiment

  • BBE12BBE12 TexasMembers  21WRX Points: 32Handicap: +0.7Posts: 21 Bunkers
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    I can second that. I'm past the honeymoon phase, over 10 rounds in with the 6.5 70tx, and I'm still loving it. Best, most stable shaft I have played... and the best looking too

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    M5 10.5 - HZRDUS Smoke Green "Hulk" 6.5 70tx
    TS2 13.5 - HZRDUS Smoke Green "Hulk" 6.5 80tx
    Titleist 818H2 17 - Tensei Pro White 100tx
    4-P Mizuno MP 5 - Project X 6.5 hard stepped
    SM7 50F, 54F - DG S400
    RTX4 57mid, 60mid - DG S400
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  • getair23getair23 Members  2311WRX Points: 425Posts: 2,311 Platinum Tees
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    Kokrak with 80g TX in his FW this week.

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    Titleist TS3 9.5  HZRDUS Smoke Green 6.5tx 
    Cobra F6 Baffler Elements Chrome 70-x
    Srixon Z 745 (4-pw) KBS tour-x
    Mizuno T20 51* 54* 60* TT x-100
    Callaway PM Grind 64*
    SC Studio Design no. 2
    Pro V1
  • danielwkelliherdanielwkelliher Members  254WRX Points: 97Posts: 254 Greens
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    My 60 TX just shipped! Going to compare against my gamer DF TX. Keep coming back to the Diamana after testing some of the newer (TZ6, Ventus) shafts this year.

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    G410 LST - Diamana 60TX, Smoke Green 60 TX
    TS3 15.75 - Evenflow White 75 6.5
    919 Tours 4-PW - Project X 6.0
    RTX4 - 50/54-60 - S400 TI
    Spider X Custom and T22 NP2

  • endyendy Members  3738WRX Points: 323Posts: 3,738 Titanium Tees
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    I’m gonna go ahead and jump on the bandwagon. If anyone has a 70 6.5TX with G410 tip to unload hit me up!!

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    Ping G410 LST 9* Fuji Ventus Black 7X 
    Ping G410 LST 14.5* Fuji Ventus Black 8X
    Ping G410 17.5* Fuji Ventus Black 10X 
    New Level 902 4-P Mitsubishi MMT 125TX  
    Honma TW-W4 50/54/60 Modus 125W
    PXG Operator P Gen 2 34.5” 
    Bridgestone Tour B X 
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    On -, @endy said:

    "I’m gonna go ahead and jump on the bandwagon. If anyone has a 70 6.5TX with G410 tip to unload hit me up!!"

    Coming from a guy playing a Ventus! Now that is saying something....... I'll be interested to see if it kicks the Ventus out of the bag!?!?

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  • Weston11Weston11 Members  271WRX Points: 99Posts: 271 Greens
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    Comparison time: TZ5 75 M5 v Hulk (70 TX). I'm going to get tips put on both tomorrow and should have Trackman numbers up by Saturday. The loser will probably be on BST.

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    Driver: SIM 9.0 - Hzrdus Smoke Green 70TX
    Fairway: SIM 15 - Diamana ZF 80TX 
    3 iron: Titleist U500 - Mitsubishi MMT 125X
    4-PW: Miura TC-201 - DG X7
    Wedges: Vokey SM8 51F, 55F, and 59K - DG TI S400 
    Putter: Byron Morgan 615 or Evnroll ER 2.2
    Ball: Pro V1X
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  • endyendy Members  3738WRX Points: 323Posts: 3,738 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @SMUGamer said:

    On -, @endy said:

    "I’m gonna go ahead and jump on the bandwagon. If anyone has a 70 6.5TX with G410 tip to unload hit me up!!"

    Coming from a guy playing a Ventus! Now that is saying something....... I'll be interested to see if it kicks the Ventus out of the bag!?!?

    Hahaha! The Ventus will be extremely tough to beat, it’s a phenomenal shaft. But this being WRX and all, I can’t let a shaft get hyped this much and not try the dang thing 😂

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    Ping G410 LST 9* Fuji Ventus Black 7X 
    Ping G410 LST 14.5* Fuji Ventus Black 8X
    Ping G410 17.5* Fuji Ventus Black 10X 
    New Level 902 4-P Mitsubishi MMT 125TX  
    Honma TW-W4 50/54/60 Modus 125W
    PXG Operator P Gen 2 34.5” 
    Bridgestone Tour B X 
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    On -, @endy said:

    On -, @SMUGamer said:

    On -, @endy said:

    "I’m gonna go ahead and jump on the bandwagon. If anyone has a 70 6.5TX with G410 tip to unload hit me up!!"

    Coming from a guy playing a Ventus! Now that is saying something....... I'll be interested to see if it kicks the Ventus out of the bag!?!?

    Hahaha! The Ventus will be extremely tough to beat, it’s a phenomenal shaft. But this being WRX and all, I can’t let a shaft get hyped this much and not try the dang thing 😂

    Don't do it man... Just let it go.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8165WRX Points: 1,386Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,165 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Weston11 said:

    Comparison time: TZ5 75 M5 v Hulk (70 TX). I'm going to get tips put on both tomorrow and should have Trackman numbers up by Saturday. The loser will probably be on BST.

    Intrigued to see how this shakes out!

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    Tour M3 460 / 10.1* (set -2*) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"
    SC Futura X Broomstick Putter experiment

  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9338WRX Points: 2,966Posts: 9,338 Titanium Tees
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    Man I did not get a long with the smoke yellow small batch, but this hulk is interesting

    Anyone switch from a PO 70TX to Hulk?

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  • radimanradiman Members  4864WRX Points: 396Handicap: 3.8Posts: 4,864 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Krt22 said:

    Man I did not get a long with the smoke yellow small batch, but this hulk is interesting

    Anyone switch from a PO 70TX to Hulk?

    I did. Went hulk 60 TX from the PO 70 TX. The PO was just not jiving with me. Good swings felt like they were moving left or right way too much. Hulk feels tight compared to the PO. Not regretting it in the slightest.

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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9* HZRDUS Smoke Green "The Hulk" 60 6.5TX
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Evenflow Black 75 6.5
    Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
    Taylormade Spider X Navy/White 35"
    Callaway MD3 52, 56, 60
    All sitting comfortably in my Sun Mountain Sync Cart Bag
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    On -, @radiman said:

    On -, @Krt22 said:

    Man I did not get a long with the smoke yellow small batch, but this hulk is interesting

    Anyone switch from a PO 70TX to Hulk?

    I did. Went hulk 60 TX from the PO 70 TX. The PO was just not jiving with me. Good swings felt like they were moving left or right way too much. Hulk feels tight compared to the PO. Not regretting it in the slightest.

    I went from PO 70TX to Hulk 70 6.5TX. Hulk tightened up dispersion, spin was about the same, and I saw a slight increase in ball speed

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8165WRX Points: 1,386Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,165 Titanium Tees
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    minor observation - coming from my fuji pro 2.0 TS -- i'm getting a bit more ballspeed with the hulk. between 2-3 on average.

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    Tour M3 460 / 10.1* (set -2*) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"
    SC Futura X Broomstick Putter experiment

  • Weston11Weston11 Members  271WRX Points: 99Posts: 271 Greens
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    On -, @gioguy21 said:

    On -, @Weston11 said:

    Comparison time: TZ5 75 M5 v Hulk (70 TX). I'm going to get tips put on both tomorrow and should have Trackman numbers up by Saturday. The loser will probably be on BST.

    Intrigued to see how this shakes out!

    So I was able to spend quite a bit of time on a GC2 this morning comparing the Hulk and TZ5 (both were tipped 1 inch and play exactly 45 inches in my TS driver.
    Here are the results:

    • TZ5 75 M5:

      • SS: 119.9 mph
      • Ball Speed: 173.9 mph
      • LA: 14.4 degrees
      • Backspin: 2,858
      • Carry: 304 yards
      • Total: 323
    • HZRDUS Green 70 TX:

      • SS: 120.5
      • Ball Speed: 174.7 mph
      • LA: 14.9 degrees
      • Backspin: 2,571
      • Carry: 316 yards
      • Total: 337
        I was also a little more accurate with the Hulk, so that was the winner for me.
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    Driver: SIM 9.0 - Hzrdus Smoke Green 70TX
    Fairway: SIM 15 - Diamana ZF 80TX 
    3 iron: Titleist U500 - Mitsubishi MMT 125X
    4-PW: Miura TC-201 - DG X7
    Wedges: Vokey SM8 51F, 55F, and 59K - DG TI S400 
    Putter: Byron Morgan 615 or Evnroll ER 2.2
    Ball: Pro V1X
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    On -, @Weston11 said:

    On -, @gioguy21 said:

    On -, @Weston11 said:

    Comparison time: TZ5 75 M5 v Hulk (70 TX). I'm going to get tips put on both tomorrow and should have Trackman numbers up by Saturday. The loser will probably be on BST.

    Intrigued to see how this shakes out!

    So I was able to spend quite a bit of time on a GC2 this morning comparing the Hulk and TZ5 (both were tipped 1 inch and play exactly 45 inches in my TS driver.
    Here are the results:

    • TZ5 75 M5:

      • SS: 119.9 mph
      • Ball Speed: 173.9 mph
      • LA: 14.4 degrees
      • Backspin: 2,858
      • Carry: 304 yards
      • Total: 323
    • HZRDUS Green 70 TX:

      • SS: 120.5
      • Ball Speed: 174.7 mph
      • LA: 14.9 degrees
      • Backspin: 2,571
      • Carry: 316 yards
      • Total: 337
        I was also a little more accurate with the Hulk, so that was the winner for me.

    Yep, the clear winner is the HULK, with the added bonus of tighter dispersion. Thanks for the information, my Hulk was just delivered. Time to get it cut, tipped, and see what it's got.

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  • HidekiWoodsHidekiWoods Members  265WRX Points: 62Handicap: 4Posts: 265 Greens
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    Was your PO tipped and did you tip the Hulk? Thinking about moving from PO 70tx tipping 0.5” to the hulk 60 TX. Just not sure about tipping.

    On -, @radiman said:

    On -, @Krt22 said:

    Man I did not get a long with the smoke yellow small batch, but this hulk is interesting

    Anyone switch from a PO 70TX to Hulk?

    I did. Went hulk 60 TX from the PO 70 TX. The PO was just not jiving with me. Good swings felt like they were moving left or right way too much. Hulk feels tight compared to the PO. Not regretting it in the slightest.

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    My bad boy showed up! Tour Issue 70 6.5TX Hulk in Black! I hope it plays as good as it looks. Going to tip it 1.25 like my PO 70TX and my TPT 15 MKP and see who wins the battle. May the best shaft win!!!

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    Currently gaming the HZRDUS Black 75 6.5 and am intrigued by the Hulk but debating on the 60 or 70 TX

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    TaylorMade M2 2016 HL Project X HZRDUS Black 65 6.5
    TaylorMade GAPR Lo 19 Project X HZRDUS Black 85 6.5
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  • BearQBearQ Members  3667WRX Points: 855Posts: 3,667 Titanium Tees
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    Automatically tipping these low/low shafts is a mistake imo. Can’t apply the same tipping standards as other shafts either

    I know the big hitters need to do it. But I wonder how many guys ruined a good shaft by overtipping - I know I ruined many!

    I’m playing all my woods/driving irons straight in. I’d never think it, but it’s been way better than my tip stiff fetish of old

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    On -, @HidekiWoods said:

    Was your PO tipped and did you tip the Hulk? Thinking about moving from PO 70tx tipping 0.5” to the hulk 60 TX. Just not sure about tipping.

    On -, @radiman said:

    On -, @Krt22 said:

    Man I did not get a long with the smoke yellow small batch, but this hulk is interesting

    Anyone switch from a PO 70TX to Hulk?

    I did. Went hulk 60 TX from the PO 70 TX. The PO was just not jiving with me. Good swings felt like they were moving left or right way too much. Hulk feels tight compared to the PO. Not regretting it in the slightest.

    No tipping in either. I'm not ultra aggressive in transition.

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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9* HZRDUS Smoke Green "The Hulk" 60 6.5TX
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Evenflow Black 75 6.5
    Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
    Taylormade Spider X Navy/White 35"
    Callaway MD3 52, 56, 60
    All sitting comfortably in my Sun Mountain Sync Cart Bag
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    On -, @BearQ said:

    Automatically tipping these low/low shafts is a mistake imo. Can’t apply the same tipping standards as other shafts either

    I know the big hitters need to do it. But I wonder how many guys ruined a good shaft by overtipping - I know I ruined many!

    I’m playing all my woods/driving irons straight in. I’d never think it, but it’s been way better than my tip stiff fetish of old

    If I had not hit my friends' 70tx hulk, I would've kept mine straight in. His wasn't tipped and it felt like it launched a touch high for me. since I got the 60TX, i wanted to bring it down. Tipped it accordingly. I completely agree with u tho - a lot of people tip without knowing what it COULD do in advance

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    Tour M3 460 / 10.1* (set -2*) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"
    SC Futura X Broomstick Putter experiment

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  • Weston11Weston11 Members  271WRX Points: 99Posts: 271 Greens
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    I had my 70 6.5TX tipped an inch. I was going to leave it untipped, based on some of the info here, but my clubfitter said to tip it. He knows my swing and worked in the TM tour truck for years, so I trust him. Tipped an inch feels absolutely perfect for me -- not as stiff as I would have expected.

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    Driver: SIM 9.0 - Hzrdus Smoke Green 70TX
    Fairway: SIM 15 - Diamana ZF 80TX 
    3 iron: Titleist U500 - Mitsubishi MMT 125X
    4-PW: Miura TC-201 - DG X7
    Wedges: Vokey SM8 51F, 55F, and 59K - DG TI S400 
    Putter: Byron Morgan 615 or Evnroll ER 2.2
    Ball: Pro V1X
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    My fitter at Club Champion said the same. I needed to tip at least an inch because it’s softer than expected! >

    On -, @Weston11 said:

    I had my 70 6.5TX tipped an inch. I was going to leave it untipped, based on some of the info here, but my clubfitter said to tip it. He knows my swing and worked in the TM tour truck for years, so I trust him. Tipped an inch feels absolutely perfect for me -- not as stiff as I would have expected.

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  • 400yards+400yards+ Members  322WRX Points: 69Posts: 322 Greens
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    Where are you guys getting this shaft is soft ? I am honestly intrigued. I have a 70tx tipped 1” and one tipped 1.25”. The 1” tipped shaft measured at 295 cpm with a grip on and in a 5” clamp. The 1.25” was 301 cpm the same 205 gram clubhead. Which isn’t light. Both builds at 45.25” My 80tx in my 218 gram fairway is 308 cpm @ 43”. These shafts are stiff as they come. It’s just great material makeup making these feel smooth.

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    Taylormade m6 8.0  t1100 85 6.5
    Taylormade m5 15   T1100 95 6.5
    Pxg gen 2 x 3 iron 
    Miura MC 501 raw 4-w Nippon spb x
    Miura 51 55 59 wedges s400 
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    Alright WRXers, a little update here, it’s been about 2 months and I had all but completely given up on this shaft. My misses were all over the place, it was feeling a bit whippy in the hands for me, something just felt off. I ended up tipping the shaft I purchased from JD an inch, and took down total length after install to 44” and it has made all the difference. I haven’t seen this type of ball flight or spin numbers since the SLDR with an Black Tie 80M X, but the distance this thing is producing is incredible. The fun part is it feels like I can now swing as hard as I want and the ball flight doesn’t waver much at all. This thing is just producing some bombs. Great shaft after getting it dialed in to what was needed!

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