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new Wilson staff fg tour ball

tomastomatoheadtomastomatohead Members Posts: 517 BST Banned

god a gold star from golf digest, anyone know the compression?

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  • TKSTKS Members Posts: 223 ✭✭✭

    The compression is just fine. After the ball test from those one guys who were of the opinion the Snell ball was the longest and softer balls are short (or slow) I took the bait and got some MTBX and ordered some FG Tours. Played them both today, the FG is unreal, great ball flight wonderful around the greens, and longer than the mtbx which seemed to fall out of the sky - no hangtime off the driver, Fg was about a club longer in the mid irons. Ss 105mph
    For me there is no better ball than the FGTour. Full package, cept cost and availability. Ha!

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  • tomastomatoheadtomastomatohead Members Posts: 517 BST Banned

    I am prob going to be playing fg tour and tp5 black!

  • Xdmike20Xdmike20 Members Posts: 106 ✭✭✭

    @TKS said:
    The compression is just fine. After the ball test from those one guys who were of the opinion the Snell ball was the longest and softer balls are short (or slow) I took the bait and got some MTBX and ordered some FG Tours. Played them both today, the FG is unreal, great ball flight wonderful around the greens, and longer than the mtbx which seemed to fall out of the sky - no hangtime off the driver, Fg was about a club longer in the mid irons. Ss 105mph
    For me there is no better ball than the FGTour. Full package, cept cost and availability. Ha!

    Also those guys tested the Duo Urethane Professional which I believe are a softer compression than the FG Tour ball. So when they talk about softer balls going shorter maybe they should have tested the FG instead or Put the FG in the stack as well since they put the Tour Soft in with the ProV's

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  • TKSTKS Members Posts: 223 ✭✭✭

    Is it confirmed that the test was with the WS Professional and not the Duo U? They use both names in the report.
    FG Tour, think of if as a TP5 or ZStar with a touch softer feel.

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    5-SW Sterlings S300's
    PCF Micro 58*
    S2R #5 putter Double Bend Shaft
    Softer Urethane balls - too many to list
  • Twin2LTwin2L Members Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited Jun 23, 2019 11:54pm #6

    I've played this Tour FG ball for a few rounds now and it's a good ball. It has a mid-high penetrating flight off the driver, carries well, even into a stiff wind and releases well. I hit some of my longest drives of season today. It plays very similar to the Srixon Z-Star, but flies a bit lower. Distances are very consistent, it checks well, even into firm greens, spins very well with wedges and is a very consistent smooth ball to putt. I have no problem keeping this ball in the bag.

    The big challenge Wilson has with this ball is, although it's very good, it's not easy to find and as a result I like many others will play a ball that is more readily accessible.

    Edited to add; This ball is very durable and doesn't show marks as quickly as others.

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  • JustsomeguyJustsomeguy Members Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I think if they had the same marketing machine as titleist, the ball would have a lot more tour wins.
    Put another way, if Rory or Koepka played it, it would be a lot more popular.

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  • BicknellCCBicknellCC Members Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I always wanted to try the FG balls but, don't ever remember seeing them for sale anywhere. Any way, I found some yellow ones in our local Dunhams for $37 a dozen and figured why not?
    This year I have played Pro v's both regular, and x, Bridgestone bxs, and Snell MTB black.
    I've played 36 holes with the FG's and the only difference I have noticed is on some full wedge shots, the ball spun back 10 feet past my pitch mark. With the other balls I get a hit hop and stop, or the ball is right at the pitch mark.
    Was I just striking the ball unusually pure this weekend, or does it spin more off the irons?

  • autronicdsmautronicdsm Members Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No idea on compression but it's somewhere in the middle. Firmer than Duo U, but I think it was softer than Snell MTB and Maxfli U6 TS. U6 is my favorite ball as far as feel goes. FG could be pretty close but when I took a sleeve to test, I quickly lost them.

  • arbeckarbeck SeattleMembers Posts: 488 ✭✭✭✭

    I doubt they are nearly as soft as Wilson claims. They claimed the Duo U was 55 compression but the M G S test measured 88. I believe that Wilson is only reporting the compression of the core. They report the FG Tour as 70. My guess is that it's in the same 100ish range that all the other tour balls are.

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  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @arbeck said:
    I doubt they are nearly as soft as Wilson claims. They claimed the Duo U was 55 compression but the M G S test measured 88. I believe that Wilson is only reporting the compression of the core. They report the FG Tour as 70. My guess is that it's in the same 100ish range that all the other tour balls are.

    That would be my guess too.

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  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @BicknellCC said:
    I always wanted to try the FG balls but, don't ever remember seeing them for sale anywhere. Any way, I found some yellow ones in our local Dunhams for $37 a dozen and figured why not?
    This year I have played Pro v's both regular, and x, Bridgestone bxs, and Snell MTB black.
    I've played 36 holes with the FG's and the only difference I have noticed is on some full wedge shots, the ball spun back 10 feet past my pitch mark. With the other balls I get a hit hop and stop, or the ball is right at the pitch mark.
    Was I just striking the ball unusually pure this weekend, or does it spin more off the irons?

    I find them to spin a liitle less than ProV1's and a bit more than the Chrome Soft off irons and wedges for me.
    The FG tour is one of my favorite balls. Just hard to find retail.

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  • LumpyPocketsLumpyPockets Members Posts: 50 ✭✭

    Love the 17s.

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  • BicknellCCBicknellCC Members Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @RainShadow said:

    @BicknellCC said:
    I always wanted to try the FG balls but, don't ever remember seeing them for sale anywhere. Any way, I found some yellow ones in our local Dunhams for $37 a dozen and figured why not?
    This year I have played Pro v's both regular, and x, Bridgestone bxs, and Snell MTB black.
    I've played 36 holes with the FG's and the only difference I have noticed is on some full wedge shots, the ball spun back 10 feet past my pitch mark. With the other balls I get a hit hop and stop, or the ball is right at the pitch mark.
    Was I just striking the ball unusually pure this weekend, or does it spin more off the irons?

    I find them to spin a liitle less than ProV1's and a bit more than the Chrome Soft off irons and wedges for me.
    The FG tour is one of my favorite balls. Just hard to find retail.

    If that's the case, I guess I hit my years quota of pure wedge shots in one afternoon.

  • LumpyPocketsLumpyPockets Members Posts: 50 ✭✭

    Best ball made.

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  • Hack DaddyHack Daddy Members Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The old school FG Tour X was the best ball ever made. Ever. They need to bring that back.

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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 6, 2019 1:42pm #17

    @arbeck said:
    I doubt they are nearly as soft as Wilson claims. They claimed the Duo U was 55 compression but the M G S test measured 88. I believe that Wilson is only reporting the compression of the core. They report the FG Tour as 70. My guess is that it's in the same 100ish range that all the other tour balls are.

    It's not unlike shaft torque and how silly it is to rely on manufacturer ratings, since they're all done differently, and frequently in a proprietary fashion.

    Wilson is publishing the core compression. The compression from M G S, or GolfBallTest.org, etc, are done with a finished ball. It's possible that's the main difference.

    FWIW, GolfBallTest recorded the 2010 version of the FG Tour with a 92 compression, using ATTI. In comparison, the TM Penta was 101, the 2016 TP/TPX were 90/104, 2016 B330/B330-S were 110/91, 2015 Chrome Soft was 80, the ZStar and XV are similar to the Bridgestones, etc, etc. There's a recurring theme there. :)

    I think they may have dropped the compression in the most recent FG Tour by a few points, but it's probably pretty close to that 90 level.

    edited to add: HackDaddy's FG Tour X was tested at 116. :)

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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Count me as another who loves the FG Tour, especially the last few editions of it. They tweaked the dimple pattern around a half dozen years ago or so and it suddenly became noticeably better in the wind. It really could do it all, a completely awesome ball.

    The Duo U and Duo Pro appear to share those aerodynamics, but aren't quite the ball the FG Tour is.

    If you can find them, and they're out there, best value around. IMHO of course. ;)

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    1i:  Golden Ram Vibration Matched, DGS400
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
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  • GolfnutintibGolfnutintib Members Posts: 79 ✭✭✭

    wilson golf has always been a good solid brand with very good products but poorly marketed and distributed

  • monks66monks66 Members Posts: 707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i love the 50 Elite....as do many golfers...are highly underrated for a two piece non urethane ball

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