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catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

Myself and 7 other friends are doing a Labor day golf trip to RTJ - Grand National. This was suggested by a friend who lives in Auburn and said it was a great value from top to bottom. My research has confirmed that statement, but I am searching for real experiences and what not. Itinerary is as follows:

Fly into ATL Friday morning
Friday afternoon - Short Course
Saturday morning - Links
Saturday afternoon - Short
Sunday morning - Lake
Sunday Afternoon - Links
Monday morning - Lake
Fly out Monday afternoon

Any suggestions or feedback would be great. We are staying on site at the Marriott Grand National.

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  • whynotgolfwhynotgolf Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    @catcher20 said:
    Myself and 7 other friends are doing a Labor day golf trip to RTJ - Grand National. This was suggested by a friend who lives in Auburn and said it was a great value from top to bottom. My research has confirmed that statement, but I am searching for real experiences and what not. Itinerary is as follows:

    Fly into ATL Friday morning
    Friday afternoon - Short Course
    Saturday morning - Links
    Saturday afternoon - Short
    Sunday morning - Lake
    Sunday Afternoon - Links
    Monday morning - Lake
    Fly out Monday afternoon

    Any suggestions or feedback would be great. We are staying on site at the Marriott Grand National.

    I've only played the Opelika stop, but we've played it a few times...some of the guys have also played Ross Bridge, and Capitol Hill and while Ross Bridge seems to be the single favorite, we keep going back to Grand National as a group. Since they opened the onsite hotel, it's just too convenient. Both the Links and Lakes are outstanding courses but collectively with the short course, they think it's the best of the stops they have been on. The greens are not on the same level (not as fast) as the regulation courses the times but as par 3 tracks go, this is the best one I've ever played. From the Orange tee, you will hit almost every club in the bag....lot of fun money games on the short course.

  • The GeneralThe General Members Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    dont forget to ask about green aeration and what their schedule is for that. Other than that, enjoy. I worked there all though college and loved it. It's very fun!!

  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I was a member there for five years in grad school and it is the best golfing facility that I've had regular access too. I was never a huge fan of their range, but other than that, the place is wonderful. I got full playing privileges for about $150 month - so yes, a huge freaking bargain. Besides that, the membership worked at all of the RTJ courses except for two. It was amazing.

    I always liked Lake course better than the Links - although I can't exactly say why. They used to play the Barbisol Championship on the Lake - as you may know. The Lake also has Championship Bermuda greens which are like putting on astroturf. The par three course is a ton of fun. The greens on all of the courses are crazy with undulations and tiers. You get in the wrong place and it can be a disaster.

    All the courses tend to play pretty tight - target golf. Lots of fairway bunkers, doglegs, swales, and the like. Nice mixture of longer and shorter holes. Also a lot of various options off the tee - driver is not always the best play. Lots of elevation changes - some flat holes bordering the lake, but others that go up and down the surrounding hills. You really have to think your way around those courses. Depending on where you put yourself, they can play pretty easy or brutally freaking hard.

    Lots of water and other places to loose balls as well, so take a few if you're prone to errant shots.

    Other than that, I really hope you enjoy the trip. I loved my time in Auburn/Opelika.

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  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    Great feedback. Thanks.

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  • baboya96baboya96 Members Posts: 53 ✭✭

    I was just there last weekend, playing 1-links, 2-lake and 1-short. Course condition was great although i found greens at links in better shape than ones at Lake. Few greens at Lake side had some dead/brown patches although they’re still very playable. Pace of play is very important and starter/ranger will remind you at every opportunities. Tons of ppl playing although i never felt rush. We managed to get rounds in under 4.5 hrs each time. Food/drinks are also very reasonable. Friendly staff. All in all, had a great time with some good golf. Enjoy!

  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    nothing wrong with the schedule ...

    except it's in auburn ...

  • whynotgolfwhynotgolf Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    @jholz said:
    I was a member there for five years in grad school and it is the best golfing facility that I've had regular access too. I was never a huge fan of their range, but other than that, the place is wonderful. I got full playing privileges for about $150 month - so yes, a huge freaking bargain. Besides that, the membership worked at all of the RTJ courses except for two. It was amazing.

    I always liked Lake course better than the Links - although I can't exactly say why. They used to play the Barbisol Championship on the Lake - as you may know. The Lake also has Championship Bermuda greens which are like putting on astroturf. The par three course is a ton of fun. The greens on all of the courses are crazy with undulations and tiers. You get in the wrong place and it can be a disaster.

    All the courses tend to play pretty tight - target golf. Lots of fairway bunkers, doglegs, swales, and the like. Nice mixture of longer and shorter holes. Also a lot of various options off the tee - driver is not always the best play. Lots of elevation changes - some flat holes bordering the lake, but others that go up and down the surrounding hills. You really have to think your way around those courses. Depending on where you put yourself, they can play pretty easy or brutally freaking hard.

    Lots of water and other places to loose balls as well, so take a few if you're prone to errant shots.

    Other than that, I really hope you enjoy the trip. I loved my time in Auburn/Opelika.

    I really felt both courses were good...the Links plays nothing like a linkstyle course. I guess that should be noted. Love the way RTJ did the fairway bunkering...if you were at the correct tee, you could proably carry them most of the time, but visually they are in your head off the tee on nearly every hole. The greenside runoffs into the marsh makes them extra tough...as you said, it's target golf. We haven't been since they changed the greens at the Lake...the biggest reason I was told they chose the Lake course for the PGA is the course allowed for more corp tents, TV production units, etc...just better for a telecasted production.

  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @whynotgolf said:

    @jholz said:
    I was a member there for five years in grad school and it is the best golfing facility that I've had regular access too. I was never a huge fan of their range, but other than that, the place is wonderful. I got full playing privileges for about $150 month - so yes, a huge freaking bargain. Besides that, the membership worked at all of the RTJ courses except for two. It was amazing.

    I always liked Lake course better than the Links - although I can't exactly say why. They used to play the Barbisol Championship on the Lake - as you may know. The Lake also has Championship Bermuda greens which are like putting on astroturf. The par three course is a ton of fun. The greens on all of the courses are crazy with undulations and tiers. You get in the wrong place and it can be a disaster.

    All the courses tend to play pretty tight - target golf. Lots of fairway bunkers, doglegs, swales, and the like. Nice mixture of longer and shorter holes. Also a lot of various options off the tee - driver is not always the best play. Lots of elevation changes - some flat holes bordering the lake, but others that go up and down the surrounding hills. You really have to think your way around those courses. Depending on where you put yourself, they can play pretty easy or brutally freaking hard.

    Lots of water and other places to loose balls as well, so take a few if you're prone to errant shots.

    Other than that, I really hope you enjoy the trip. I loved my time in Auburn/Opelika.

    I really felt both courses were good...the Links plays nothing like a linkstyle course. I guess that should be noted. Love the way RTJ did the fairway bunkering...if you were at the correct tee, you could proably carry them most of the time, but visually they are in your head off the tee on nearly every hole. The greenside runoffs into the marsh makes them extra tough...as you said, it's target golf. We haven't been since they changed the greens at the Lake...the biggest reason I was told they chose the Lake course for the PGA is the course allowed for more corp tents, TV production units, etc...just better for a telecasted production.

    My comment was not meant to disparage the Links Course in any way. It is a fine course - although completely misnamed, as you mention. It is certainly not a links course. I can also see that the Lake made for better TV/hospitality and the like for a tour event. The Lake has the "signature" hole after all - the "island" green par three.

    But, there is nothing wrong with the Links course. Many people actually prefer it. I am just not one of them.

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  • whynotgolfwhynotgolf Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    My comment was not meant to disparage the Links Course in any way. It is a fine course - although completely misnamed, as you mention. It is certainly not a links course. I can also see that the Lake made for better TV/hospitality and the like for a tour event. The Lake has the "signature" hole after all - the "island" green par three.

    But, there is nothing wrong with the Links course. Many people actually prefer it. I am just not one of them.

    I think personal preference goes a long way in these situations...which one checks off more boxes for the player is for the player to decide, no wrong answer...everytime we go we play all 3. I was just mentioned why they opted for the Lakes course for the PGAT.

  • NCLancerNCLancer from Northern New York to The Triangle Members Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2019 7:17pm #11

    One aspect of the Links course that is "linksy" is that the front nine does not come back to the clubhouse. My wife and I played Lakes and Links in mid-May teeing off after 3 (twilight). Temps were low 80's both days and we paid around $87 total each day. Fantastic bargain!

  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    Any suggestions on places to eat around the resort?

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  • chippa13chippa13 Members Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Warehouse Bistro is a nice place. I've heard good things about Cafe 123 but never been personally. Niffers is a good family type place. The Victory Grille is good for a wings/sports bar kind of place. Amsterdam Cafe over in Auburn is a place we've enjoyed on visits down there.

  • SpicoliSpicoli Members Posts: 332 ✭✭✭✭

    Great facility, great golf, good hotel. Good eats in old Opelika. If you can I would recommend trying to get over to Capitol Hill to play The Judge or Senator. Legislator is good too.

  • DCLeftyDCLefty Washington, DCMembers Posts: 12 ✭✭

    Agree with Spicoli - I would consider taking a day off from the Lakes/Links courses at Grand National to drive to Prattville for 36 on the Senator and Judge. Don't sleep on those RTJ onion rings either. Enjoy and good luck!

  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    @DCLefty said:
    Agree with Spicoli - I would consider taking a day off from the Lakes/Links courses at Grand National to drive to Prattville for 36 on the Senator and Judge. Don't sleep on those RTJ onion rings either. Enjoy and good luck!

    I wish we could, but I wasnt the one who booked and planned the trip so I wont have much say there. I'm pretty sure we did a package deal through RTJ...

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  • seus777seus777 Members Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭

    Go play Farmlinks one day instead. Come back and play short course at twilight if you haven’t had enough z

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  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @catcher20 said:

    @DCLefty said:
    Agree with Spicoli - I would consider taking a day off from the Lakes/Links courses at Grand National to drive to Prattville for 36 on the Senator and Judge. Don't sleep on those RTJ onion rings either. Enjoy and good luck!

    I wish we could, but I wasnt the one who booked and planned the trip so I wont have much say there. I'm pretty sure we did a package deal through RTJ...

    ?? ... they're rtj courses (judge/etc) ...

  • Bbo569Bbo569 Members Posts: 155 ✭✭✭

    @seus777 said:
    Go play Farmlinks one day instead. Come back and play short course at twilight if you haven’t had enough z

    This all day!

  • tonypizzletonypizzle Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    sounds like such a great trip. i would like to hear your thoughts on it afterwards. i am just constantly searching for buddy trip locations.

  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    @tonypizzle said:
    sounds like such a great trip. i would like to hear your thoughts on it afterwards. i am just constantly searching for buddy trip locations.

    I will do my best to give a full report including pictures. There are 12 of us going, so we have adopted the NLU TILT game to keep things interesting. Handicaps range from 1.4 to 14.

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  • Albusdumble831Albusdumble831 Atlanta, GAClubWRX Posts: 81 ClubWRX

    Absolutely love playing Grand National, if you get a chance, you and the crew should drive over to Capitol Hill and play that on Sunday. From my perspective it's good to see the other courses on the Trail. And by all means, if you do have an opportunity you have to play Ross Bridge! Awesome course.

  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    So after two rounds at each of the Grand National, I can say this... they are far from a walk in the park, especially with the pin locations we played them at. Holy smokes those were tough rounds!

    I have a hard time believing that the rating of the lakes and the links is correct... it played far more difficult than what we expected. Talk about incredible views from start to finish though. At the end of the weekend, I have to say I favored the links course even though its basically the lakes course with more undulation and bunkers.

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  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    @catcher20 said:

    @tonypizzle said:
    sounds like such a great trip. i would like to hear your thoughts on it afterwards. i am just constantly searching for buddy trip locations.

    I will do my best to give a full report including pictures. There are 12 of us going, so we have adopted the NLU TILT game to keep things interesting. Handicaps range from 1.4 to 14.

    For the money, you will be hard pressed to find a better trip than that. There was 12 of us total. With six rounds and three nights of lodging, it came out to about $480 a person. The resort is top notch as well. If you are looking for an affordable, yet memorable trip, this is the one.

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  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @catcher20 said:
    So after two rounds at each of the Grand National, I can say this... they are far from a walk in the park, especially with the pin locations we played them at. Holy smokes those were tough rounds!

    I have a hard time believing that the rating of the lakes and the links is correct... it played far more difficult than what we expected. Talk about incredible views from start to finish though. At the end of the weekend, I have to say I favored the links course even though its basically the lakes course with more undulation and bunkers.

    i've come to believe ratings are based on length and almost nothing else ...

  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @catcher20 said:

    @catcher20 said:

    @tonypizzle said:
    sounds like such a great trip. i would like to hear your thoughts on it afterwards. i am just constantly searching for buddy trip locations.

    I will do my best to give a full report including pictures. There are 12 of us going, so we have adopted the NLU TILT game to keep things interesting. Handicaps range from 1.4 to 14.

    For the money, you will be hard pressed to find a better trip than that. There was 12 of us total. With six rounds and three nights of lodging, it came out to about $480 a person. The resort is top notch as well. If you are looking for an affordable, yet memorable trip, this is the one.

    all 6 in auburn? ... i'm sure they treated you nicely when they looked up from their coloring books ... :|

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    edited Sep 5, 2019 12:32am #27
  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    @tiderider said:

    @catcher20 said:

    @catcher20 said:

    @tonypizzle said:
    sounds like such a great trip. i would like to hear your thoughts on it afterwards. i am just constantly searching for buddy trip locations.

    I will do my best to give a full report including pictures. There are 12 of us going, so we have adopted the NLU TILT game to keep things interesting. Handicaps range from 1.4 to 14.

    For the money, you will be hard pressed to find a better trip than that. There was 12 of us total. With six rounds and three nights of lodging, it came out to about $480 a person. The resort is top notch as well. If you are looking for an affordable, yet memorable trip, this is the one.

    all 6 in auburn? ... i'm sure they treated you nicely when they looked up from their coloring books ... :|

    Yeah, we wanted to make a trip down to Pratville, but we decided against it due to us already having rounds in place. I We played all rounds from the Orange tees, and I felt as though it played quite long. However, a few of the holes on the links course were a force to be reckoned with from the tips. One par three measured 274 and the 18th was basically a par 5 from the tips due to the lengthy approach over the lake.

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  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    I bet the rough is a lot more forgiving in the fall and winter... you had to give it all you had to get out of that Bermuda if it was sitting down.

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  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    the rough in summer is indeed penal ... not really all that hight, but that bermuda lets that ball settle in like a baby in cotton ...

  • catcher20catcher20 San AntonioMembers Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    @tiderider said:
    the rough in summer is indeed penal ... not really all that hight, but that bermuda lets that ball settle in like a baby in cotton ...

    Fact! It couldn't have been more than 3" deep at its highest, but if it got nestled in there you were faced with two challenges... 1) finding it and 2) muscling it out

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