Most popular shafts for irons

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Hi

Can someone link to some data or something from PGA TOUR showing which shaft is the most popular on the tour?

  • Dynamic Gold?
  • Project X?
  • KBS?

I think that DG and Project X are pretty close?

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  • HappyGilmore22HappyGilmore22 Members  641WRX Points: 202Handicap: 3Posts: 641 Golden Tee
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    Don't know exact numbers but it's probably dynamic gold by a landslide. Think KBS and project x are probably closer together than DG would be to either of the others.

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    TaylorMade SIM 9 deg - Fujikura Ventus Black 7x

    Titleist TS3 14.25 deg - Project X Evenflow T1100 White 85x

    Titleist 816 H2 19 deg - Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Hybrid 90x

    Titleist T200 4-5, T100 6-PW - Project X 6.5

    Vokey SM7 50.12 F, 54.10 S, 58.12 D - DG TI S400

    Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2

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    You are probably right... I just saw WITB of Spieth, Rahm and McIlroy and they all use PX. Also Adam Scott. But yeah, a lot also uses DG that's why I was curious to see some data of shafts in play.

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    There are periods of time where x100s win 75 % of majors and regular events

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    On -, @enfuego said:

    There are periods of time where x100s win 75 % of majors and regular events

    Yes you are right. Last two Majors were won with X100’s (Woods and Koepka).

    But with all the tests being done showing that e.g. PX 6.5/7.0 vs X100 is so close to each other I wonder why like McIlroy plays PX 7.0 and Rahm 6.5 and not X100 like Koepka? All with very explosive swings with Rahm having the most aggressive I think?

    Could be sweet to know why they play the shaft they do and the thoughts behind.

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    On -, @Pitchswag said:

    On -, @enfuego said:

    There are periods of time where x100s win 75 % of majors and regular events

    Yes you are right. Last two Majors were won with X100’s (Woods and Koepka).

    But with all the tests being done showing that e.g. PX 6.5/7.0 vs X100 is so close to each other I wonder why like McIlroy plays PX 7.0 and Rahm 6.5 and not X100 like Koepka? All with very explosive swings with Rahm having the most aggressive I think?

    Could be sweet to know why they play the shaft they do and the thoughts behind.

    All about what they have played and what numbers and ball flight they are getting. My driver ss is nowhere near what Koepka can get up to (mine about 118-120 ave) but x100 are unplayable for me since they balloon and spin too much. I'm taller and play +1/2 inch long so maybe that plays into it too. Over time I've seen more and more guys start playing project x and kbs so the numbers are getting closer but dg still dominates on tour in numbers.

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    TaylorMade SIM 9 deg - Fujikura Ventus Black 7x

    Titleist TS3 14.25 deg - Project X Evenflow T1100 White 85x

    Titleist 816 H2 19 deg - Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Hybrid 90x

    Titleist T200 4-5, T100 6-PW - Project X 6.5

    Vokey SM7 50.12 F, 54.10 S, 58.12 D - DG TI S400

    Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2

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    On -, @Pitchswag said:

    Yes you are right. Last two Majors were won with X100’s (Woods and Koepka).

    But with all the tests being done showing that e.g. PX 6.5/7.0 vs X100 is so close to each other I wonder why like McIlroy plays PX 7.0 and Rahm 6.5 and not X100 like Koepka? All with very explosive swings with Rahm having the most aggressive I think?

    Could be sweet to know why they play the shaft they do and the thoughts behind.

    I obviously can't speak for anyone but myself, but I chose the X100 over the PX 7.0 because, while they gave me very similar numbers, the X100 felt smoother through my swing. With the X100, I feel as if I can feel where the club head is throughout the entire swing, whereas with the PX 7.0 I lose that feeling. I imagine others feel the exact opposite based on their swing.

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    Driver: Cobra King Speedzone 9* w/ Fujikura Atmos TS Black 7X
    3-Wood: TaylorMade M5 15* w/ Oban Devotion 8 O5
    Hybrid: PXG 0317X Gen 2 19* w/ Oban Kiyoshi Purple Hybrid O5
    4i - 9i: NLG 902 w/ DG TI X100
    Wedges: Jaws MD5 46/10S, 50/10S, 54/8C, 58/8W, all w/ DG TI S400
    Putter: Lajosi Custom DD201WB w/ Stability Shaft

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    Confirmed a few of my assumptions below. Although I think the overall tour breakdown % is more even but the winners usually have x100. Also didn't true temper own or still own project x at one point?

    2016
    Masters willet x100
    Us open Johnson x100
    Open Stenson modus 120x
    Pga walker x100 (amt)
    2017
    Masters Sergio modus 130x
    Us open brooks x100
    Open spieth project x 6.5
    Pga Thomas x100
    2018
    Masters Reed x100
    Us open brooks x100
    Open molinari x100
    PGA brooks x100
    2019
    Masters tiger x100
    PGA Brooks x100

    I'm sure someone could go back further or look at the regular tour wins but this is a good sample size.

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    Nice post enfuego. Just really curious about what these players gets from X100's over Project X 6.5/7.0? Also Kevin Na just won and he also uses X100.

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    I think PX is higher launch and lower spin, while X100 is lower launch and higher spin. I'm sure all the pros have a history with one or the other and have preferences based on that feel. But then they've also tested extensively to see which produces the best numbers.

    I think NA was actually using S400, not that its a huge difference.

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    Kevin Na uses tour issue S400 my favorite shaft of all time

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    M1 440 8.5 Oban Kiyoshi white 65 05 flex
    915f 15* Oban Kiyoshi white 75 05 flex
    915h 19* Oban devotion 85 05 flex
    Srixon 745 4-pw Nippon modus 120x
    Titleist vokey sm5 TVD 50* dynamic gold tour issue s400
    Bettinardi 54* and 60* s200 dynamic gold
    Scotty Cameron limited button back 2008 edition
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    Yes sorry. I ofc meant that Na won and he uses DG TI so a lot of players out there in the DG family. Seems like more plays the DG over PX actually.

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    On -, @enfuego said:

    Also didn't true temper own or still own project x at one point?

    Yes, still does.

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    On -, @Pitchswag said:

    On -, @enfuego said:

    There are periods of time where x100s win 75 % of majors and regular events

    Yes you are right. Last two Majors were won with X100’s (Woods and Koepka).

    But with all the tests being done showing that e.g. PX 6.5/7.0 vs X100 is so close to each other I wonder why like McIlroy plays PX 7.0 and Rahm 6.5 and not X100 like Koepka?

    I'm not sure which tests you're referring to but the PX 6.5/7.0 are very different from the DG X100. The PX shafts are stiffer throughout but a good amount and their feel is very different.

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    Mizuno ST190 9.5* Diamana X'17 70XX ||  Taylormade M1 430 8.5* Tensei Pro Orange V2 70TX
    Titleist 915FD 15* Kuro Kage DC 80TX || Taylormade RSI UDI 16* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 8.8 Tour-Spec X
    Titleist 915FD 18* Kuro Kage 100XTS || Srixon Z U65 Utility 18* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 9.8 Tour-Spec X
    Callaway X-Forged UT 20* Kuro Kage XT 100TX Hybrid
    Callaway X-Forged UT 23* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Bridgestone J40 DPC 5i-7i 27*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey Special 61* Black Oxide V-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot

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    On -, @enfuego said:

    Confirmed a few of my assumptions below. Although I think the overall tour breakdown % is more even but the winners usually have x100. Also didn't true temper own or still own project x at one point?

    You are correct! Royal Precision Inc. made a name for itself in the early 2000s by developing both the Rifle and the Project X shaft lines. At the time, the father-son team of Dr. Joe and Kim Braley were the top RP designers.

    Disaster struck RP when a ship carrying several months' shaft output sank in an Asian typhoon. True Temper then bought out RP in 2006, and Project X is now part of TT.

    Kim Braley then shifted to FST, and oversees the KBS Tour shaft division. (For trivia fans, KBS stands for "Kim Braley Shafts.") Here is a lively snapshot of Braley's golf design career. youtube.com/watch?v=irsg6z_9jcU

    Here is a Bloomberg's tracer on early Royal Precision Inc: https://bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=377690

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    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperHot - orange
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course and season.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
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    I think most still gravitate toward DG for the feel/responsiveness of the shaft and that most probably grew up playing these. Still a good number of guys out there using DG in wedges for this reason when they are using other shafts like c-tapers in their irons.

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    TaylorMade SIM 9 deg - Fujikura Ventus Black 7x

    Titleist TS3 14.25 deg - Project X Evenflow T1100 White 85x

    Titleist 816 H2 19 deg - Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Hybrid 90x

    Titleist T200 4-5, T100 6-PW - Project X 6.5

    Vokey SM7 50.12 F, 54.10 S, 58.12 D - DG TI S400

    Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2

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    On -, @fujiman.757 said:

    Kevin Na uses tour issue S400 my favorite shaft of all time

    Ooooooh I have those in a wedge. Those are sick!

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    On -, @Pitchswag said:

    Nice post enfuego. Just really curious about what these players gets from X100's over Project X 6.5/7.0? Also Kevin Na just won and he also uses X100.

    No he uses S400

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    On -, @Pitchswag said:

    You are probably right... I just saw WITB of Spieth, Rahm and McIlroy and they all use PX. Also Adam Scott. But yeah, a lot also uses DG that's why I was curious to see some data of shafts in play.

    No. Adam Scott uses KBS Tours in Irons. DG in wedges

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  • speeder757speeder757 Members  1183WRX Points: 167Posts: 1,183 Platinum Tees
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    PGA Tour - Is pretty close to this
    65% Dynamic Gold
    22% Project X
    6% KBS
    6% Nippon
    1% Other

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