New TM p790 irons ???

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  • calogecaloge Members Posts: 452 ✭✭✭✭

    @fredstar said:

    @Davethegolfer said:
    Ti review is up on Alex Etches -Golf Box reviews

    Pointless reviews, has he ever said an iron or club sux? No because they are a retailer.

    What a strange comment. Who's making bad clubs? Enjoy the review, and take from the numbers what you can.

  • ShakespeareShakespeare Members Posts: 90 ✭✭✭

    @hankmoody said:

    @TheMoneyShot said:

    @Laznasty said:

    @TheMoneyShot said:
    Any reviews on the Ti version yet?

    Thanks for posting this video!

    Wow...the reviewer is swinging his 7i at 101 mph and getting 205 yards . That's what happens with a hot face and super fast swing I guess.

    Sadly...I wouldnt know about the fast swing part.

  • SwingBluesSwingBlues We are the Old Dark Navy Blues Members Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Love the YT reviews. The new P790s look great but not thrilled with the Ti, cannot see any reason to get personally. Right now, keeping my Gen 1, perhaps next year the new ones. Fantastic job with the Gen 2 in looks though, but performance wise, the Gen 1 was tough to beat in the first place... B)

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  • fredstarfredstar Members Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @caloge said:

    @fredstar said:

    @Davethegolfer said:
    Ti review is up on Alex Etches -Golf Box reviews

    Pointless reviews, has he ever said an iron or club sux? No because they are a retailer.

    What a strange comment. Who's making bad clubs? Enjoy the review, and take from the numbers what you can.

    It's like a car dealer reviewing cars he is selling. Would Golfbox or Rick Shiels give a more honest review?

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  • JoeJoeJoeUrBoatJoeJoeJoeUrBoat Leamington OntarioMembers Posts: 781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When are these going to be out to demo at local retailers?

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  • Stevens24Stevens24 Members Posts: 149 ✭✭✭

    SO if you listen to the podcast the taylor made guys say that with the tech and traditional lofts the ball height would be through the roof. Crossfield test the T200 and had the same height and similar spin(500 revs) to his club yet they were 12 yards longer. The lower CG and changed MOI require stronger loft to control height. Would you really want a 7 iron that goes 170 feet in the air on a normal shot??

  • the bishopthe bishop Members Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stevens24 said:
    Would you really want a 7 iron that goes 170 feet in the air on a normal shot??

    Not in Texas!

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  • jacincmjacincm Members Posts: 56 ✭✭

    Agreed^^
    I struggle with the longer irons because they are....well longer. If a P790 7 iron goes longer than say a P730 7 iron at the same length, then I'm all for it. I love my current P790s because my typical miss is thin and it is very very forgiving in that area. The ball flies shorter but it runs forever, ultimately making up for that lost distance.

  • ShakespeareShakespeare Members Posts: 90 ✭✭✭

    Yea...i only care about spin really...a 7 iron with the loft of a bladed 5 iron needs to spin at least 5000 rps or greater at my swing speed...if you swing it tour speed fast and it spins 5000 then i cant play them because my spin will be too low. So i will have to test them because weakening them to get more spin gets them too high ...usually for me. I guess they are not going to be for me...at least not yet

  • EricWGolfEricWGolf Members Posts: 646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shakespeare said:
    Yea...i only care about spin really...a 7 iron with the loft of a bladed 5 iron needs to spin at least 5000 rps or greater at my swing speed...if you swing it tour speed fast and it spins 5000 then i cant play them because my spin will be too low. So i will have to test them because weakening them to get more spin gets them too high ...usually for me. I guess they are not going to be for me...at least not yet

    In modern head design, spin numbers aren’t as important as they once were thought to be. With multi-material heads like he P790, you can get high launch, peak height, and proper descent angle with lower spin.

    Are focused on spin because you are concerned about launch, height, distance, or descent?

  • cardia10cardia10 Members Posts: 2,470 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    The TI is kind of like in 1994 or 1996 when Callaway did the BIg Bertha irons in the gold color. Didn't matter at all other than cost and cool factor. I don't see a problem with offering a premium option with a cost, because some people will pay it just t have it. Much like a Toyota Camry and a Lexus. looks pretty similar at 100 yards.

  • jdang307jdang307 Members Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    Just thinking but the TI isn’t a beautiful club or anything. Why not the m5 or m6. Unless you really want the somewhat consistent look.

  • jdang307jdang307 Members Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    Has anyone shown monitor differences between the old and new yet? Wonder if TM put an embargo on them for a little?

    Nothing wrong with the embargo as that’s good business. Just Surprised nobody did that I saw.

  • BiggErnBiggErn Members Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @jdang307 said:
    Has anyone shown monitor differences between the old and new yet? Wonder if TM put an embargo on them for a little?

    Nothing wrong with the embargo as that’s good business. Just Surprised nobody did that I saw.

    The same people do the reviews every time. Just look at the review and the new one. Not much difference other than minor aesthetics.

  • jay_dwightjay_dwight Members Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Comparison pics of 790’s as well as with 760.






  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 31,005 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Really liking the looks of the newer version. Looking forward to seeing what the performance difference may be.

  • ShakespeareShakespeare Members Posts: 90 ✭✭✭

    @EricWGolf said:

    @Shakespeare said:
    Yea...i only care about spin really...a 7 iron with the loft of a bladed 5 iron needs to spin at least 5000 rps or greater at my swing speed...if you swing it tour speed fast and it spins 5000 then i cant play them because my spin will be too low. So i will have to test them because weakening them to get more spin gets them too high ...usually for me. I guess they are not going to be for me...at least not yet

    In modern head design, spin numbers aren’t as important as they once were thought to be. With multi-material heads like he P790, you can get high launch, peak height, and proper descent angle with lower spin.

    Are focused on spin because you are concerned about launch, height, distance, or descent?

    Its more of a control thing....i dont play soft greens really...so ..lets say a 27 deg 5 iron spins 5200...if my 27.5 deg 7 iron spins lets say 4200 ..it would only work if i could hot it high enough to payoff. Guys with fast swing speeds could do it, but im afraid my launch window would be somewhere between the new 7iron and my old 5 iron,but spinning much less
    Kind of would defeat the purpose of the stronger lofts since i would probably weaken them. That being said..the pxg,s seem to spin pretty good for stronger lofted irons..so maybe its still worth testing.

  • jll62jll62 ClubWRX Posts: 2,147 ClubWRX

    @Shakespeare said:

    @EricWGolf said:

    @Shakespeare said:
    Yea...i only care about spin really...a 7 iron with the loft of a bladed 5 iron needs to spin at least 5000 rps or greater at my swing speed...if you swing it tour speed fast and it spins 5000 then i cant play them because my spin will be too low. So i will have to test them because weakening them to get more spin gets them too high ...usually for me. I guess they are not going to be for me...at least not yet

    In modern head design, spin numbers aren’t as important as they once were thought to be. With multi-material heads like he P790, you can get high launch, peak height, and proper descent angle with lower spin.

    Are focused on spin because you are concerned about launch, height, distance, or descent?

    Its more of a control thing....i dont play soft greens really...so ..lets say a 27 deg 5 iron spins 5200...if my 27.5 deg 7 iron spins lets say 4200 ..it would only work if i could hot it high enough to payoff. Guys with fast swing speeds could do it, but im afraid my launch window would be somewhere between the new 7iron and my old 5 iron,but spinning much less
    Kind of would defeat the purpose of the stronger lofts since i would probably weaken them. That being said..the pxg,s seem to spin pretty good for stronger lofted irons..so maybe its still worth testing.

    It's a bit of a half-truth that spin is the key factor to stopping balls on greens. When you're dealing with mid and long irons, descent angle takes over in terms of importance. That's what Eric is trying to say.

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  • OspreyCIOspreyCI Valley of the SunMembers Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t see a difference....

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  • ShakespeareShakespeare Members Posts: 90 ✭✭✭

    @jll62 said:

    @Shakespeare said:

    @EricWGolf said:

    @Shakespeare said:
    Yea...i only care about spin really...a 7 iron with the loft of a bladed 5 iron needs to spin at least 5000 rps or greater at my swing speed...if you swing it tour speed fast and it spins 5000 then i cant play them because my spin will be too low. So i will have to test them because weakening them to get more spin gets them too high ...usually for me. I guess they are not going to be for me...at least not yet

    In modern head design, spin numbers aren’t as important as they once were thought to be. With multi-material heads like he P790, you can get high launch, peak height, and proper descent angle with lower spin.

    Are focused on spin because you are concerned about launch, height, distance, or descent?

    Its more of a control thing....i dont play soft greens really...so ..lets say a 27 deg 5 iron spins 5200...if my 27.5 deg 7 iron spins lets say 4200 ..it would only work if i could hot it high enough to payoff. Guys with fast swing speeds could do it, but im afraid my launch window would be somewhere between the new 7iron and my old 5 iron,but spinning much less
    Kind of would defeat the purpose of the stronger lofts since i would probably weaken them. That being said..the pxg,s seem to spin pretty good l > @jll62 said:
    @Shakespeare said:

    @EricWGolf said:

    @Shakespeare said:
    Yea...i only care about spin really...a 7 iron with the loft of a bladed 5 iron needs to spin at least 5000 rps or greater at my swing speed...if you swing it tour speed fast and it spins 5000 then i cant play them because my spin will be too low. So i will have to test them because weakening them to get more spin gets them too high ...usually for me. I guess they are not going to be for me...at least not yet

    In modern head design, spin numbers aren’t as important as they once were thought to be. With multi-material heads like he P790, you can get high launch, peak height, and proper descent angle with lower spin.

    Are focused on spin because you are concerned about launch, height, distance, or descent?

    Its more of a control thing....i dont play soft greens really...so ..lets say a 27 deg 5 iron spins 5200...if my 27.5 deg 7 iron spins lets say 4200 ..it would only work if i could hot it high enough to payoff. Guys with fast swing speeds could do it, but im afraid my launch window would be somewhere between the new 7iron and my old 5 iron,but spinning much less
    Kind of would defeat the purpose of the stronger lofts since i would probably weaken them. That being said..the pxg,s seem to spin pretty good for stronger lofted irons..so maybe its still worth testing.

    It's a bit of a half-truth that spin is the key factor to stopping balls on greens. When you're dealing with mid and long irons, descent angle takes over in terms of importance. That's what Eric is trying to say.

    Understood...but spin is more about stopping balls on greens...consistant spin is needed for consistancy in yardage...the law of diminishing returns would put me in a hybrid at 19 degrees before a iron at 19 degrees..only because a lack if swing speed at a certain point in the iron would negate decent angle stopping power. Like I said..these irons ( at least the ti version) are probably too strong lofted...at least fo me

  • HifadeHifade Sleepin' on the job. Slacker! Dayton, OHCharter Members Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    shinier sole, lower magic goop port screw, more rounded topline and slightly smaller blade length

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,929 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hifade said:
    shinier sole, lower magic goop port screw, more rounded topline and slightly smaller blade length

    all that makes me want to hit these ...they would be awesome in long irons. i liked the P790 3i i had last year as a driving iron (still pissed i sold it!)

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  • jdang307jdang307 Members Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    I wonder if that badge area is necessary (with the black indent around it). Without it the thing would **** near be blade looking from the outside.

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  • Golf64Golf64 Go Habs Go! Ontario, CanadaMembers Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Got our fit cart in yesterday. Looks better vs. older one. Soft feel, but 'clicky'. Spin was low. 4,000 and about one club longer than my usual 7 iron. Some of the shafts come with VSS too.

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  • JoeJoeJoeUrBoatJoeJoeJoeUrBoat Leamington OntarioMembers Posts: 781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the stock offering DG105? I wonder what shafts you could get at no up-charge. I'm hoping MODUS 105 is one of them!

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  • Lefty431Lefty431 Members Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 15, 2019 2:45pm #599

    I love original 790 in the 4-6 to go along with my 770 7-pw!! Perfect combo, but don’t know if it’ll be worth the upgrade for the new version

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  • SoloShot84SoloShot84 Members Posts: 409 ✭✭✭✭

    @jay_dwight said:
    Comparison pics of 790’s as well as with 760.






    Man thank you for your pictures!
    can you post more in-depth comparison picture with P760 please?
    possiblely 4irons?
    I am on market for 4 iron to blend with my P760/P730 combo set

  • jay_dwightjay_dwight Members Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SoloShot84 said:

    @jay_dwight said:
    Comparison pics of 790’s as well as with 760.






    Man thank you for your pictures!
    can you post more in-depth comparison picture with P760 please?
    possiblely 4irons?
    I am on market for 4 iron to blend with my P760/P730 combo set

    I only have the 790 in 7 iron demo head.
    I have 790-760-730 combo set. The 790’s and 760’s blend VERY well.

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