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I have a Mizuno CLK Hybrid in the Fujikura Speeder Evolution HB 85X (I'm told this shaft is very similar to the Atmos Blue)

 

I'm looking to replace the shaft with something still in the 75-85gram weight range. My favorite driver and 3W shafts are a little stiffer and/or heavier in the tip and also on the lighter side (65gram X in each). I'm wanting to apply similar logic to my hybrid.

 

Any suggestions on what shafts fit what I'm looking for? I've been looking at the Fujikura Pro 2.0 75g and the Kuro Kage 80X simply because they're cheap on Ebay, however I'm not sure if they fit the profile I'm looking for.

 

Thanks,

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In sticking with the Fujikura Speeder theme, maybe try the Motore 8.8 Tour Spec? Those shafts still get play on tour and are very stable.

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Atmos Black 8, Tensei Pro White 90, Diamana Thump 90, KBS Prototype 85, Graphite Design DI or IZ 85 hybrid (more mid but still the lowest launching of the Graphite Design hybrids from what I'm told), Accra TZ5 95 if you don't mind adding a bit of weight.

 

If you are looking for some money savers you could source UST V2 85, Aldila Rogue Silver, Aldila NV 85, or Ping Tour 85. Another option is to look at a steel shaft. Something like the Oban 100, Dynamic Gold 105/DG SL, KBS Tour V, or Nippon Modus 105 would all fit the ball if you don't mind adding a bit of weight.

 

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I think everyone missed out the "light" from your request.

 

Driver: still looking.....
4 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 17.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW70x @ 42 1/2".

7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
Irons: Kamui Pro KP-102 5i-PW + KBS TGI 110 + 1/2".
Wedges: Callaway Jaws Forged 50°/55°/60° + KBS C-Taper
Putter: SeeMore SB1 + Accra FX300.

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> @ian-500 said:

> I think everyone missed out the "light" from your request.

Everyone has suggested something in the range he specified, save for a couple of phatchris' posts. He did say 75-85g in case you missed that.

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Graphite Design AD-DI 105x, is what I use in my hybrid, it simply works for me...good luck

DRIVER: Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5*, Ventus TR Blue 6TX at 45"
3 WOOD: Callaway Paradym HL 16.5*, Diamana Flower Band White, D+ 82X Flex, tipped 1" at 42"
7 WOOD: Callaway Paradym 21*, Tensei AV white 75g S Flex, tipped 1" at 41"

IRONS: Callaway Apex MB 7-10, CB 4-6 -- DG TI S400

WEDGES: Callaway JAWS Raw 50, 54, 58 -- DG TI S400
PUTTER: SC Phantom 5, Stability Shaft, 33.25", Garsen Quad Tour grip (Toulon Chicago as back up)
BALL: Callaway CT X (current gamer), Srixon Diamond, -ProV1X and ProV1

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> @Valtiel said:

> > @ian-500 said:

> > I think everyone missed out the "light" from your request.

> Everyone has suggested something in the range he specified, save for a couple of phatchris' posts. He did say 75-85g in case you missed that.

 

Is your suggestion between 75g and 85g.......

 

Driver: still looking.....
4 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 17.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW70x @ 42 1/2".

7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
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Wedges: Callaway Jaws Forged 50°/55°/60° + KBS C-Taper
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> @ian-500 said:

> > @Valtiel said:

> > > @ian-500 said:

> > > I think everyone missed out the "light" from your request.

> > Everyone has suggested something in the range he specified, save for a couple of phatchris' posts. He did say 75-85g in case you missed that.

>

> Is your suggestion between 75g and 85g.......

 

The Motore 8.8 TS is 85g and 88g for Stiff and X-stiff respectively.

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Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 20* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X
Callaway X-Forged Single♦️  22* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X 
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> @"Adam C" said:

> HZRDUS Black hybrid. Tip stiff and heavy.

 

This is the one of the stock shafts Tour Edge used in its CBX hybrids, billed as **left-proof.**

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Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

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  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
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take a look at this.

https://www.titleist.com/fitting/golf-club-fitting/golf-shafts

tip frequencies are listed for the shafts

 

hzrdus black isn't on the chart but it'll do the trick as well. Tensei pro white 90 at 87 grams in stiff is probably the stiffest feeling tip in that weight class, though the TX is over 90 grams.

 

The atmos black hybrid only comes in 9, the blue is 8 and is pretty stout for a fujikura.

 

Aldila Tour Green is a board, for what it's worth.

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Callaway Paradym 3w (@ 16*) - Ventus TR Red 7x
Callaway Paradym 7w (21*) - Ventus TR Red 8x
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> @"Boricua Golf" said:

> Graphite Design AD-DI 105x, is what I use in my hybrid, it simply works for me...good luck

 

not tip stiff at all though, relative to something like a HZRDUS. especially in the 75-85g version

Callaway Paradym 🔹🔹🔹 9.5* - Ventus TR Red 6x
Callaway Paradym 3w (@ 16*) - Ventus TR Red 7x
Callaway Paradym 7w (21*) - Ventus TR Red 8x
Srixon ZX7 (4-PW) - KBS Tour V 120x
Vokey SM8 Raw 52F,56D,60M - TI S400 
Odyssey 2-ball OG / Bettinardi DASS BBZero Flow / many more...

Lefty

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Veylix Rome 988h

A touch heavy at 91 g in X

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TEE  XCG7B  4h  22* Ventus Velocore HB Blue 8S
TEE  XCG7B  5h  25* Diamana Thump i465ct 4iron shaft
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> @golfinguru11 said:

> > @"Boricua Golf" said:

> > Graphite Design AD-DI 105x, is what I use in my hybrid, it simply works for me...good luck

>

> not tip stiff at all though, relative to something like a HZRDUS. especially in the 75-85g version

 

I was interested in your comment because since the site [https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-di-hybrid-shafts/](https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-di-hybrid-shafts/ "https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-di-hybrid-shafts/") lists it as stiff in the tip section.

 

Are you suggesting it's not tip stiff? Or just that it's not tip stiff in comparison to the HZRDUS Black?

Do you think the Tour AD DI 85x would be too close to my current Speeder Evo 85x?

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> @DiracDelta said:

> > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > @"Boricua Golf" said:

> > > Graphite Design AD-DI 105x, is what I use in my hybrid, it simply works for me...good luck

> >

> > not tip stiff at all though, relative to something like a HZRDUS. especially in the 75-85g version

>

> I was interested in your comment because since the site [https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-di-hybrid-shafts/](https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-di-hybrid-shafts/ "https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-di-hybrid-shafts/") lists it as stiff in the tip section.

>

> Are you suggesting it's not tip stiff? Or just that it's not tip stiff in comparison to the HZRDUS Black?

> Do you think the Tour AD DI 85x would be too close to my current Speeder Evo 85x?

 

compared to the hzrdus. the new ad iz hybrid shaft is probably closer to what you're looking for. It also has wayyyy better feel than hzrdus anything.

Callaway Paradym 🔹🔹🔹 9.5* - Ventus TR Red 6x
Callaway Paradym 3w (@ 16*) - Ventus TR Red 7x
Callaway Paradym 7w (21*) - Ventus TR Red 8x
Srixon ZX7 (4-PW) - KBS Tour V 120x
Vokey SM8 Raw 52F,56D,60M - TI S400 
Odyssey 2-ball OG / Bettinardi DASS BBZero Flow / many more...

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The new Graphite Design tour AD IZ hybrid shaft is very good, I actually just paired it with new Callaway Apex hybrid. IZ hybrid is 85x but feels on the lighter side probably due to balance point being just slightly higher than traditional. It does not feel loose at all, compared to say the AD DI hybrid or something with a lot more kick to it. Def a solid more linear feeling load with AD IZ hybrid, worth checking out for sure.

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Callaway Epic Flash sz 15* /Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7s

Titleist Tsi2 hybrid 18* /GD Tour AD IZ 85x

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Titleist SM9 54-12d, 60-10s /PX Lz 6.0

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Seems you're looking for the feel of a certain hybrid shaft. Light in static weight , feels heavy in the tip but an X S flex......... good luck in finding the combination since most shifts in the stiff/XS flex are heavier. It needs the weigh for build up the wall thickness for stiffer feel.

If you can over look the given flex printed on the shaft, try some shaft that's one flex softer ( or even a couple flex softer )...

The same set up in your driver and fairway wood are quite different than the hybrid shaft, simply because the length will give you a different feel.

Try an iron shaft in the hybrid length. It may not have the "light" weight you're looking for but the shorter length should give you similar feel that you're looking for. Can't tell you which flex to go down from the XS hybrid flex, your golf swing will have to find the right flex and tip trim.

I had a guy whom stick an iron shaft inside the hybrid head ( untipped and untrimmed ), I'd thought it was a 3 wood length but it played extra long, longer than his regular 3 wood.

Kinda an odd ball trial but it worked for him. The hybrid felt heavy, of course, but that 2 hybrid was longer than his 3 wood.

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