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Epic Flash Triple Diamond sounds like what I am after, but being lefty I can't seem to get one...

 

What's a solid fade biased driver that keeps up with the longest drivers?

 

I'm currently playing the Epic Flash, but even at -1 adapter setting the club head seems to sit square at best. Some lead tape art has helped, but still not fully confident with this club standing on the tee box

:taylormade-small: Qi10 LS Driver 10.5D (Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6x) 
:taylormade-small: Qi10 3 Fairway 15.0D (Tensei AV Raw Blue 75tx) 

Callaway   Apex UW 19.0D (Tensei AV Raw Blue 85tx)
:taylormade-small: P7MC/P770 Irons (KBS $-Taper 120s) (5-PW)/(4i) Lamkin Crossline Cord (All Metals / Irons)
 :taylormade-small:MG4 Wedges 50.09, 56.12, 60.08 (KBS $-Taper 120s)
:titleist:Scotty Cameron Champions Choice NP2 33.5" - Lamkin Deep Etched Cord
 
 
 
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anything with 15g of lead tape on the extreme toe.

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Qi10 LS / 8* (dialed to 8.75*) / HZRDUS Smoke Green 60 6.5

Qi10 Tour / 3w / Denali Blue 70TX

Mizuno Pro 24 Fli-Hi / 3i / HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5
Mizuno Pro 245 / 4-GW / KBS Tour X

SM9 Black / 54,58 / KBS Tour S+

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Odyssey AI-ONE 7CH 35”

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I've read that if you replace your left handed callaway adapter with a right handed adapter (and vice versa) the draw setting will actually be a fade biased setting and make lie angle flatter. I have no idea if loft adjustments would be flip/flopped as well. I also have no idea how to tell difference bw left handed and right handed callway adapter. And even then, you're only getting 1* flatter, I think.

 

I would look for flattest lie angle driver you can find with good reviews. I think titleist drivers offer some fade biased settings in their adapter.

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> @Cpm881 said:

> I've read that if you replace your left handed callaway adapter with a right handed adapter (and vice versa) the draw setting will actually be a fade biased setting and make lie angle flatter. I have no idea if loft adjustments would be flip/flopped as well. I also have no idea how to tell difference bw left handed and right handed callway adapter. And even then, you're only getting 1* flatter, I think.

>

> I would look for flattest lie angle driver you can find with good reviews. I think titleist drivers offer some fade biased settings in their adapter.

 

Left Handed Callaway adapters have a line underneath the settings

:taylormade-small: Qi10 LS Driver 10.5D (Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6x) 
:taylormade-small: Qi10 3 Fairway 15.0D (Tensei AV Raw Blue 75tx) 

Callaway   Apex UW 19.0D (Tensei AV Raw Blue 85tx)
:taylormade-small: P7MC/P770 Irons (KBS $-Taper 120s) (5-PW)/(4i) Lamkin Crossline Cord (All Metals / Irons)
 :taylormade-small:MG4 Wedges 50.09, 56.12, 60.08 (KBS $-Taper 120s)
:titleist:Scotty Cameron Champions Choice NP2 33.5" - Lamkin Deep Etched Cord
 
 
 
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M4 and G400 Max are fade bias?

Callaway Paradym TD 9, Autoflex 505.
TM Stealth Plus 5W, Hzrdous Smoke Red 5.5

TSR2 7 wood, Ventus TR 6S.
Paradym X 5 hybrid, Ventus 7S.

Paradym X 6 hybrid, Ventus 7S.
PXG Gen4 0311ST, 7 to GW. Steelfiber Private Reserve 95R.
Artisan 54, 58. KBS TGI 90.

Callaway PM grind 64, KBS Hi-rev.
Odyssey 2 Balls Armlock.  Vessel Player 3 Stand Bag.

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My TS2 9.5 opens up nicely and visually noticeable when addressing the ball. That's also when I put my PX-6C12 tour issue stiff tip shaft in and bust it.

  • TSR2 9.25° Ventus Velo TR Blue 58S
  • TSR2 15° AD VF 74S
  • T200 17 2i° Tensei AV Raw White Hybrid 90S
  • T100 3i to PW MMT 105S
  • SM9 F52/12, M58/8, PX Wedge 6.0 120S
  • SC/CA Monterey
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TS2 is not fade bias....

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Callaway Paradym TD 9, Autoflex 505.
TM Stealth Plus 5W, Hzrdous Smoke Red 5.5

TSR2 7 wood, Ventus TR 6S.
Paradym X 5 hybrid, Ventus 7S.

Paradym X 6 hybrid, Ventus 7S.
PXG Gen4 0311ST, 7 to GW. Steelfiber Private Reserve 95R.
Artisan 54, 58. KBS TGI 90.

Callaway PM grind 64, KBS Hi-rev.
Odyssey 2 Balls Armlock.  Vessel Player 3 Stand Bag.

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> @Krt22 said:

> > @cj4501 said:

> > F9 9* is definitely fade biased, it was a welcome change for my game as I struggle with a hook/ draw

>

> Not so much for me.

 

Like don't struggle with a hook or doesn't fade?

LTDx 9* AD-VR6x 

Cleveland Launcher Xl Halo 15*

Rad Speed 19* Hybrid

ZX5 MKII 5-AW

CBX 2 54*

TM Big Foot 58*

Odyssey Versa 3 T

Chrome Soft X-LS

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> @Cpm881 said:

> I've read that if you replace your left handed callaway adapter with a right handed adapter (and vice versa) the draw setting will actually be a fade biased setting and make lie angle flatter. I have no idea if loft adjustments would be flip/flopped as well. I also have no idea how to tell difference bw left handed and right handed callway adapter. And even then, you're only getting 1* flatter, I think.

>

> I would look for flattest lie angle driver you can find with good reviews. I think titleist drivers offer some fade biased settings in their adapter.

 

I had my XR16 set up like that before changing to the Pro model last year. I've got my M1 set up like that now as well. Very fun for someone with a snap hook like me. ;-)

In the Wilson Exo II:
Driver - 2017 Taylormade M1
3 wood - 2016 Taylormade M1
7 wood - Callaway XR Steelhead Heavenwood
Irons Staff - Wilson C300 Forged 4-GW
Wedges - Cleveland RTX 4 54* / 58*
Putter - Wilson Staff Infinite Windy City

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> @shaolingolfer said:

> TS2 is not fade bias....

 

All anyone needs to do is set the sleeve in the fade position and keep from setting it on the ground. Mine is set at fade bias C1

  • TSR2 9.25° Ventus Velo TR Blue 58S
  • TSR2 15° AD VF 74S
  • T200 17 2i° Tensei AV Raw White Hybrid 90S
  • T100 3i to PW MMT 105S
  • SM9 F52/12, M58/8, PX Wedge 6.0 120S
  • SC/CA Monterey
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That's how I play but I will not call it fade bias.

Callaway Paradym TD 9, Autoflex 505.
TM Stealth Plus 5W, Hzrdous Smoke Red 5.5

TSR2 7 wood, Ventus TR 6S.
Paradym X 5 hybrid, Ventus 7S.

Paradym X 6 hybrid, Ventus 7S.
PXG Gen4 0311ST, 7 to GW. Steelfiber Private Reserve 95R.
Artisan 54, 58. KBS TGI 90.

Callaway PM grind 64, KBS Hi-rev.
Odyssey 2 Balls Armlock.  Vessel Player 3 Stand Bag.

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> @shaolingolfer said:

> That's how I play but I will not call it fade bias.

 

OK. Using that belief, none of the current drivers with sleeves could be fade bias like old drivers with naturally open face angles. They haven't made that type of head in years. Partly why driver sleeves are dominating the driver biz. They are the best of both worlds.

  • TSR2 9.25° Ventus Velo TR Blue 58S
  • TSR2 15° AD VF 74S
  • T200 17 2i° Tensei AV Raw White Hybrid 90S
  • T100 3i to PW MMT 105S
  • SM9 F52/12, M58/8, PX Wedge 6.0 120S
  • SC/CA Monterey
  • DASH -ProV1x
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