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The Open Championship at Royal Portrush GC/Dunluce Links - Shane Lowry is the 2019 Champion Golfer

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  • c7015c7015 Members  2304WRX Points: 300Posts: 2,304 Platinum Tees
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    I like Rory for this one

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10873WRX Points: 3,981Handicap: 8Posts: 10,873 ClubWRX
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    The problem with links golf is every course looks the same, and the only challenge is the wind..

    Oh dear.

    Prove me wrong.. haha.

    Dornoch looks nothing like troon which looks nothing like Turnberry which looks nothing like Muirfield which looks nothing like Berwick which looks nothing like TOC ... and I’ve played them all the past 2 weeks ...

    You are ignorant of links golf ...

    I have not played any of them, and they all look basically the same to me. I am far from ignorant, I just have a differing opinion. Thanks for the insult though.

    The word ‘ignorant’ is not an insult ... it means you lack knowledge of a particular topic ... which you have admitted ...

    I have watched enough opens to develop my opinion. I have played on some links "style" courses, I have never played across the pond so I will give you that I never played what could be called a proper links course. But to my eye, they all have similar enough features. Relatively flat, some sand dune'ish hills or mounds with tall grass or gorse, little to no tress, no water for the most part, front 9 going out, back 9 coming in. etc etc. History has shown that if the wind does not blow, tour guys shred these unprotected courses. Having not played one, does not make me ignorant of the design and style of them.

    Rory shot 61 at port rush as a 16 year old. If you didnt already know that.

    But you are ignorant of the design of them - which you repeatedly prove with your posts in this thread - by saying them have similar enough features. Yes they all have tee grounds, fairways, rough, bunkers, and greens... like all golf courses :-S

    Like Augusta and Bethpage Black too right? They are pretty much the same, seeing as they are both parkland courses. I mean you must think that too, correct?

    Jeez man, I have not repeatedly proven anything other than my opinion of links golf is that it is boring for my taste. I know what links golf is, I know what feature define links golf. I know a links course when I see it. I think the course are less interesting. I will still watch the open, because regardless of my opinion of the style the event can and will still probably be interesting.

    I am sorry that my opinion offends your high taste so.

    And no, I don’t think Augusta and bethpage are the same. I would say parkland course offer a larger variety though. There are way more options in them. I would agree that they are sometimes artificial and can look unnatural and contrived at times. Links golf moves with the land much more and is more natural. Sure, I will give you that.

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    If links courses were that great the Euro Tour would have the Ryder Cup on them. But they don't. I know I know, it's about the money. But if they can hold British Opens on links courses they can hold Ryder cups on them as well. Could it be the Euro Tour's true mission
    is real estate sales?

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    On -, @NoodleSalad said:

    If links courses were that great the Euro Tour would have the Ryder Cup on them. But they don't. I know I know, it's about the money. But if they can hold British Opens on links courses they can hold Ryder cups on them as well. Could it be the Euro Tour's true mission
    is real estate sales?

    No, they couldn’t ... Venues are selected based on bids by countries/national organizations, along with courses that want a Ryder cup ... Muirfield hosted one back in the 70s, and if they wanted another one, I’m sure they could get one at some pt ... but they don’t ...

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    Going to be a damp one:

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    On -, @Bingo1976 said:

    If you really think playing the Ryder Cup at a Scottish Links course in October is a wise idea, then you haven't been to Scotland in October... :)

    This I agree with. I would imagine it would be miserable.

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    If you really think playing the Ryder Cup at a Scottish Links course in October is a wise idea, then you haven't been to Scotland in October... :)

    This I agree with. I would imagine it would be miserable.

    It's so hit or miss. Last year the start of October was lovely. two years ago it was close to freezing and windy!

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    On -, @scott_Donald said:

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    If you really think playing the Ryder Cup at a Scottish Links course in October is a wise idea, then you haven't been to Scotland in October... :)

    This I agree with. I would imagine it would be miserable.

    It's so hit or miss. Last year the start of October was lovely. two years ago it was close to freezing and windy!

    That would be like trying to play a event up at Tahoe around that time. It could be 80 degrees or there could be a foot of snow.

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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

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    On -, @Bingo1976 said:

    If you really think playing the Ryder Cup at a Scottish Links course in October is a wise idea, then you haven't been to Scotland in October... :)

    This I agree with. I would imagine it would be miserable.

    It's so hit or miss. Last year the start of October was lovely. two years ago it was close to freezing and windy!

    That would be like trying to play a event up at Tahoe around that time. It could be 80 degrees or there could be a foot of snow.

    Thing is getting 80* in Scotland in the middle of summer is a very rare occurrence!

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    On -, @scott_Donald said:

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    On -, @Bingo1976 said:

    If you really think playing the Ryder Cup at a Scottish Links course in October is a wise idea, then you haven't been to Scotland in October... :)

    This I agree with. I would imagine it would be miserable.

    It's so hit or miss. Last year the start of October was lovely. two years ago it was close to freezing and windy!

    That would be like trying to play a event up at Tahoe around that time. It could be 80 degrees or there could be a foot of snow.

    Thing is getting 80* in Scotland in the middle of summer is a very rare occurrence!

    haha.

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  • Apathy_OverdoseApathy_Overdose Members  327WRX Points: 193Posts: 327 Greens
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    The Open lately seems to produce winners that are all exclusively Hall of Fame worthy type of players.
    Since 2005:

    Tiger
    Tiger
    Padraig
    Padraig
    Stewart Cink
    Oosthuizen
    Darren Clarke
    Ernie Els
    Phil
    Rory
    Zach Johnson
    Stenson
    Spieth
    Molinari

    I think we can kill the "Open is the most wide open major and anyone can win" narrative.
    One of the best in the world who already has had a very good career and has recently shown good form will win The Open.

    However, it does seem to skew toward a bit older golfers who are still on top form winning. Might be time for Adam Scott to finally get his (should've already had 2).

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    The best part of the Open is that you can watch live golf while eating breakfast.

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    On -, @Apathy_Overdose said:

    The Open lately seems to produce winners that are all exclusively Hall of Fame worthy type of players.
    Since 2005:

    Tiger
    Tiger
    Padraig
    Padraig
    Stewart Cink
    Oosthuizen
    Darren Clarke
    Ernie Els
    Phil
    Rory
    Zach Johnson
    Stenson
    Spieth
    Molinari

    I think we can kill the "Open is the most wide open major and anyone can win" narrative.
    One of the best in the world who already has had a very good career and has recently shown good form will win The Open.

    However, it does seem to skew toward a bit older golfers who are still on top form winning. Might be time for Adam Scott to finally get his (should've already had 2).

    Insert Adam Scott for Erinie Els, and your thesis is correct. That is what should have happened. No belly putter allowed.

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    On -, @MountainGoat said:

    The best part of the Open is that you can watch live golf while eating breakfast.

    Best weekend of the year!!

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  • duffer987duffer987 Meh... eh Canadian in CaliforniaMembers  9957WRX Points: 1,181Handicap: ~8Posts: 9,957 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Apathy_Overdose said:

    The Open lately seems to produce winners that are all exclusively Hall of Fame worthy type of players.
    Since 2005:

    Tiger
    Tiger
    Padraig
    Padraig
    Stewart Cink
    Oosthuizen
    Darren Clarke
    Ernie Els
    Phil
    Rory
    Zach Johnson
    Stenson
    Spieth
    Molinari

    I think we can kill the "Open is the most wide open major and anyone can win" narrative.
    One of the best in the world who already has had a very good career and has recently shown good form will win The Open.

    However, it does seem to skew toward a bit older golfers who are still on top form winning. Might be time for Adam Scott to finally get his (should've already had 2).

    Yup. The only reason that trope exists is because of Curtis/Hamilton back-to-back, as they barely eeked it out wins over chasing packs of word class players.
    Forget 15yrs, go back 30 and the winners circle matches up no problem with the other 3

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    On -, @scott_Donald said:

    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    On -, @Bingo1976 said:

    If you really think playing the Ryder Cup at a Scottish Links course in October is a wise idea, then you haven't been to Scotland in October... :)

    This I agree with. I would imagine it would be miserable.

    It's so hit or miss. Last year the start of October was lovely. two years ago it was close to freezing and windy!

    I managed to get sun burn playing the Old Course in March, and I am fairly olive skinned!

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    Adam Scott has been at Portrush for nearly two weeks getting to know the course.

    https://7news.com.au/sport/golf/adam-scott-eyes-british-open-redemption-c-211604

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    On -, @Bingo1976 said:

    I managed to get sun burn playing the Old Course in March, and I am fairly olive skinned!

    It was in the mid 40s and raining when I played the Old Course last month. Every other day of my trip was in the mid 60s, cloudless and gorgeous.

    It's like the golf gods were all "Oh, you wanted REAL links golf?"

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    On -, @NoodleSalad said:

    If links courses were that great the Euro Tour would have the Ryder Cup on them. But they don't. I know I know, it's about the money. But if they can hold British Opens on links courses they can hold Ryder cups on them as well. Could it be the Euro Tour's true mission
    is real estate sales?

    Agreed, a Ryder Cup at Carnoustie would be such a snoozefest...

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    On -, @imakaveli said:

    On -, @NoodleSalad said:

    If links courses were that great the Euro Tour would have the Ryder Cup on them. But they don't. I know I know, it's about the money. But if they can hold British Opens on links courses they can hold Ryder cups on them as well. Could it be the Euro Tour's true mission
    is real estate sales?

    Agreed, a Ryder Cup at Carnoustie would be such a snoozefest...

    Irony appears not to be your strong suit.

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    Probably the most exciting major the last 4 years: 2015 Playoff, Spieth one shot from winning 3 straight major, 2016: Mickelson/Stenson duel, 2017: Spieth plays last 5 holes -5 , 2018: Molinari beats Tiger, Rory, Spieth.

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    On -, @NoodleSalad said:

    On -, @imakaveli said:

    On -, @NoodleSalad said:

    If links courses were that great the Euro Tour would have the Ryder Cup on them. But they don't. I know I know, it's about the money. But if they can hold British Opens on links courses they can hold Ryder cups on them as well. Could it be the Euro Tour's true mission
    is real estate sales?

    Agreed, a Ryder Cup at Carnoustie would be such a snoozefest...

    Irony appears not to be your strong suit.

    If that was an ironic post then it's a weird one.

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    Does anyone know why so many turned down their invite to play this year?
    I know Chappell and Schwartzel are injured.
    Kevin Na, Scott Piercy, and Ryan Moore all qualified for the Open but are DNP's.

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    On -, @snizzle said:

    Does anyone know why so many turned down their invite to play this year?
    I know Chappell and Schwartzel are injured.
    Kevin Na, Scott Piercy, and Ryan Moore all qualified for the Open but are DNP's.

    Maybe the "walking only" policy?

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    new odds:
    rooks Koepka 8/1
    Rory McIlroy 8/1
    Dustin Johnson 14/1
    Tiger Woods 16/1
    Justin Rose 20/1
    Francesco Molinari 20/1
    Jon Rahm 20/1
    Xander Schauffele 20/1
    Rickie Fowler 20/1
    Tommy Fleewood 25/1
    Patrick Cantlay 25/1
    Jordan Spieth 30/1
    Adam Scott 30/1
    Hideki Matsuyama 30/1
    Jason Day 30/1
    Justin Thomas 30/1
    Louis Oosthuizen 30/1
    Bryson DeChambeau 30/1
    Matt Kuchar 40/1
    Henrik Stenson 50/1
    Paul Casey 50/1
    Graeme McDowell 50/1
    Matt Wallace 50/1
    Gary Woodland 50/1

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    Can we put the capital "T" in the thread title?

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