REVIEW Sense Putter Grip "It cured my putter grip HOing" - FairwayFred

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  • dmac4gdmac4g Members Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @FairwayFred are you still using the grip and is it still as good as your initial review stated? I am very interested, but wondering how it is holding up a few weeks after the initial install? As someone who changes putter grips way too often, I would love to find a solution to end the cycle.

  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Got one on order. If this works out, I'll report back here.

  • tbowles411tbowles411 ClubWRX Posts: 25,311 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I might need to give this a go! I'm using a Flatcat grip to take my hands out of the stroke. I like it, but it's a little big and I still don't square it up all the time.

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  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Maungakeikei Auckland New ZealandMembers Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Thats a weird look..im a pp58 guy.....im far more likely to follow your 58 degree wedge recommendations around Xmas !!

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  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, had my first round over the weekend with the R1 grip and scored my best round of the year! What's crazier is I had 5 birdies and I usually don't get many birdies per round. I don't know how to explain it but once I got used to what was square in my hands I paid less attention to what was square on the face and really freed up me up to make a good stroke. I had some initial issues with longer lag putts but direction was not a problem. Really looking forward to playing more with this grip.

    Thank you Fred for your review or else I probably would've never tried this grip. Thank you also to DrewII for the additional info.

    Since there isn't a place where you check out the Sense R1 grip in hand, I included a pic of the Flat Cat grips for comparison.

  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    call me crazy --- isn't this the same idea as a superstroke ss2 grip (Sense S1) or a flat cat with a counterweight?

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  • DrewllDrewll Members Posts: 34 ✭✭

    @gioguy21 said:
    call me crazy --- isn't this the same idea as a superstroke ss2 grip (Sense S1) or a flat cat with a counterweight?

    Actually very different than the 2 you mentioned. With the Sense Grip- you can actually dial in the center of balance of your putter. With the others- its a static (fixed) weight.

  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Drewll said:

    @gioguy21 said:
    call me crazy --- isn't this the same idea as a superstroke ss2 grip (Sense S1) or a flat cat with a counterweight?

    Actually very different than the 2 you mentioned. With the Sense Grip- you can actually dial in the center of balance of your putter. With the others- its a static (fixed) weight.

    you can do the same thing with a tour lock pro as well -- with any grip, not just the sense-specific grip.

    Epic Flash SZ / 9* (set N/S) / HZRDUS Smoke Green Hulk 60 6.5TX tipped 1.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic Flash / 5 (set N/S) / BF 90TX Tipped 1.75"
    718 T-MB 2I / PX Flighted 7.0
    785 / 3-PW / PX 7.0
    RTX4 / 52, 59 / DG S400
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • DrewllDrewll Members Posts: 34 ✭✭

    @gioguy21 said:

    @Drewll said:

    @gioguy21 said:
    call me crazy --- isn't this the same idea as a superstroke ss2 grip (Sense S1) or a flat cat with a counterweight?

    Actually very different than the 2 you mentioned. With the Sense Grip- you can actually dial in the center of balance of your putter. With the others- its a static (fixed) weight.

    you can do the same thing with a tour lock pro as well -- with any grip, not just the sense-specific grip.

    You are correct. But the cost and ease of use, in my opinion, sets Sense Grips apart from the rest.

  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Drewll said:

    @gioguy21 said:

    @Drewll said:

    @gioguy21 said:
    call me crazy --- isn't this the same idea as a superstroke ss2 grip (Sense S1) or a flat cat with a counterweight?

    Actually very different than the 2 you mentioned. With the Sense Grip- you can actually dial in the center of balance of your putter. With the others- its a static (fixed) weight.

    you can do the same thing with a tour lock pro as well -- with any grip, not just the sense-specific grip.

    You are correct. But the cost and ease of use, in my opinion, sets Sense Grips apart from the rest.

    completely understand your bias lol -- do you have ideas to have different shapes coming to the marketplace? i know pistol is out due to previous posts --

    Epic Flash SZ / 9* (set N/S) / HZRDUS Smoke Green Hulk 60 6.5TX tipped 1.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic Flash / 5 (set N/S) / BF 90TX Tipped 1.75"
    718 T-MB 2I / PX Flighted 7.0
    785 / 3-PW / PX 7.0
    RTX4 / 52, 59 / DG S400
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree, the SAW system is really easy to use. I tinkered with it a little once I got the grip put on but prefer no counterweight at this time.

  • DrewllDrewll Members Posts: 34 ✭✭

    @gioguy21 said:

    @Drewll said:

    @gioguy21 said:

    @Drewll said:

    @gioguy21 said:
    call me crazy --- isn't this the same idea as a superstroke ss2 grip (Sense S1) or a flat cat with a counterweight?

    Actually very different than the 2 you mentioned. With the Sense Grip- you can actually dial in the center of balance of your putter. With the others- its a static (fixed) weight.

    you can do the same thing with a tour lock pro as well -- with any grip, not just the sense-specific grip.

    You are correct. But the cost and ease of use, in my opinion, sets Sense Grips apart from the rest.

    completely understand your bias lol -- do you have ideas to have different shapes coming to the marketplace? i know pistol is out due to previous posts --

    LOL! Thank you for understanding. We do have upcoming shapes. Based on a study done by the California State University Long Beach/ Fullerton biomechanics lab- the shape of our grips are more accurate than the leading grip on the market! We will have the study up soon on our site.

  • winfootwinfoot Members Posts: 809 BST Banned

    When choosing any golf equipment, I’ll look for:
    Functionality
    Looks
    Feel
    Cost

    I’m not sure why most putter grips have a lot of busy graphics. I really like that the Sense grip is simple and looks really good on any putter. I hate a lot of logos or graphics on my grips. I also personally prefer the feel of the rubber versus the more “cushioned” “Winn” grip type feel of superstroke. Cost is reasonable for what you are getting.
    Whether something’s functions well, looks good, feels good and is affordable is certainly very personal. The Sense grip checks all boxes for me.

  • dbdorsdbdors Houston, Clear Lake areaClubWRX Posts: 1,879 ClubWRX
    edited Jul 15, 2019 7:49pm #45

    @winfoot said:
    ...... I’m not sure why most putter grips have a lot of busy graphics ......

    Im sure you know the answer, but simply marketing. When a tour pro rolls out with a SS grip, we all know it.
    BTW, I have one being delivered today. Excited, I am a SS fan, but after a conversation with Drewll I will give it a shot. Hope get it on this week and get some practice or play this weekend.


    Woods: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 8*, Fujikura Ventus 6, stiff: TM M5, 13*, Diamana Thump 75, stiff
    Hybrids: TEE CBX 3H (20d), 4H (22d), Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 85 6.0
    Irons: TM M6, 5-GW, Accra 80i, stiff
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 54* (bent to 55*), 60*, Accra 80i, stiff
    Putter: Evnroll ER1.2 355g, 33", KBS CT Tour Putter Matte Black, Sense S1 grip
    Ball: Wilson Duo Professional in green & yellow
    Bag/Cart: '18 Ping Hoofer/BagBoy Quad XL
    Accessories: Garmin G8/Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilized
  • BermBusterBermBuster So. Cal.Members Posts: 64 ✭✭

    This looks real good. How do I know if I'll prefer the square or rectangular grip? I'm currently using a SS XL 2.0.

  • DrewllDrewll Members Posts: 34 ✭✭

    @BermBuster said:
    This looks real good. How do I know if I'll prefer the square or rectangular grip? I'm currently using a SS XL 2.0.

    If you do like the SS 2.0- then you will like the R1.

  • HoosierMizunoHoosierMizuno Members Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    is the grip sold separately from the kit? can i buy the grip at the $20 price and determine if i like the feel and shape, and then later buy the rod and weight kit for $30 which would be equal to the $50 price the kit and grip combo are being sold at.

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  • dmac4gdmac4g Members Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    If I buy the grip only, does it come with a cap versus the counter weight? I would want the grip only to start as I don't get along with counterweights.

  • DrewllDrewll Members Posts: 34 ✭✭

    @dmac4g said:
    If I buy the grip only, does it come with a cap versus the counter weight? I would want the grip only to start as I don't get along with counterweights.

    Sorry. It does not come with the cap.

  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, got some extensive time in with the R1 grip. I'm not a huge fan of counter-weighting as I usually prefer to feel the head weight as much as possible. For that reason, I mainly only messed around with the 10g weight before deciding not to use it. This tennis-like orientation of the R1 grip is so different for me that I thought I'd take Drew's suggestion to try the 30g weight under my dominant hand. For me, that's the right hand (slightly below the butt end in the palm) in a left hand low grip. Much to my surprise, I could still really feel the head but more importantly I was able to strike the sweet spot more consistently. It really made my putter feel more stable on every putt.

    Lag putting has improved with the counter-weighting, too. I'm guessing it has to do with the head feeling lighter. For me, there is usually a trade off for solid short putting (heavy head) for good lag putting (lighter head). The infinite adjustability of the SAW system seems to have remedied that. Drew, was that intended in the Sense (infinity) logo? Lol

    I can't recommend enough to give the R1 grip a try for themselves. Great product you have there, Drew!

  • JAMH03JAMH03 Members Posts: 964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4rheel said:
    Wow, had my first round over the weekend with the R1 grip and scored my best round of the year! What's crazier is I had 5 birdies and I usually don't get many birdies per round. I don't know how to explain it but once I got used to what was square in my hands I paid less attention to what was square on the face and really freed up me up to make a good stroke. I had some initial issues with longer lag putts but direction was not a problem. Really looking forward to playing more with this grip.

    Thank you Fred for your review or else I probably would've never tried this grip. Thank you also to DrewII for the additional info.

    Since there isn't a place where you check out the Sense R1 grip in hand, I included a pic of the Flat Cat grips for comparison.

    I take it that's the rectangular grip?
    Congrats on the 5 birdies!


     



  • dbdorsdbdors Houston, Clear Lake areaClubWRX Posts: 1,879 ClubWRX

    I went ahead and purchased an S1.
    I contacted Drewll and had a good conversation about the grip. I really needed to understand his thoughts on why this would be better than my current SuperStroke Midslim 2.0.
    First, after years of trying many grips, I have been using the SS Midslim 2.0’s for several years. I have come to learn that I prefer a 350-355g head, SS grip and not back weight. I felt the back weight felt strange. I tried 25, 50 and 75g SS back-weights, but finally settled on no weight.
    My major concerns were:
    1. Which grip, I like the size of the SS 2.0, (about 3.8” circumference). The R1 about 3.8” in perimeter and the S1 is more like 3.2 perimeter. I was scared of the rectangular shape and went with the S1. May try an R1 later, but like the S1 for now.
    2. Total weight of the grip. The S1 is nearly 70g additional weight (with SAW and 30g weight) over the SS. I was afraid that I would lose feel in the head.
    Drewll mentioned that a properly placed weight would steady my stroke. He said that it would help stop that “in-out” (my words) in the back stroke. I notice a lot that when I make a back stroke, my hands move in and out, 90 degrees to path. I hate that feeling. Almost like I can’t control the hands.
    I installed the grip (it was a bit harder than I thought). I used 2 wraps of tape. Made a bunch of putts on a matt in the office and decided to place the 30g weight below my right hand (dominant hand as suggested).
    I must say I am surprised how much I like the grip. My stroke is smoother. I still get the slight in-out at from time to time, but not near as much as before and not as severe. I thought I would feel the extra grip weight and loose feel of the head, but I really don’t feel much difference. It does feel like I am pushing the entire shaft through the stroke.
    I have made a number of putts on the office matt, then at a practice green on Saturday, and finally played 6 practice holes yesterday. I like the feel and results. I feel that my putting will be better.
    And I’m not concerned with the loss in perimeter. The grip feels smaller, but still confident with using it.
    What I am also surprised with is not being concerned with face alignment. I don’t notice if the face is more or less square to the path.


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    Hybrids: TEE CBX 3H (20d), 4H (22d), Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 85 6.0
    Irons: TM M6, 5-GW, Accra 80i, stiff
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 54* (bent to 55*), 60*, Accra 80i, stiff
    Putter: Evnroll ER1.2 355g, 33", KBS CT Tour Putter Matte Black, Sense S1 grip
    Ball: Wilson Duo Professional in green & yellow
    Bag/Cart: '18 Ping Hoofer/BagBoy Quad XL
    Accessories: Garmin G8/Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilized
  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes.> @JAMH03 said:

    @4rheel said:
    Wow, had my first round over the weekend with the R1 grip and scored my best round of the year! What's crazier is I had 5 birdies and I usually don't get many birdies per round. I don't know how to explain it but once I got used to what was square in my hands I paid less attention to what was square on the face and really freed up me up to make a good stroke. I had some initial issues with longer lag putts but direction was not a problem. Really looking forward to playing more with this grip.

    Thank you Fred for your review or else I probably would've never tried this grip. Thank you also to DrewII for the additional info.

    Since there isn't a place where you check out the Sense R1 grip in hand, I included a pic of the Flat Cat grips for comparison.

    I take it that's the rectangular grip?
    Congrats on the 5 birdies!

    Yes, that's the R1.

  • BermBusterBermBuster So. Cal.Members Posts: 64 ✭✭

    Before I spring for this, I decided to remount my current SS 2.0 so the flat side was facing the back of the putter, instead of up. This put my right hand (low hand) on a flat surface, and I could really tell where the club was facing. Putting was greatly improved yesterday, making a number of 4 to 8 footers, and missing a few by only a hair. Even lag puts were closer that ever. My left hand was still a little lost, so it felt like it was just along for the ride. I can really see the benefit here.

  • joesgonegolfingjoesgonegolfing Older But Better Rockville, MDClubWRX Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Ordered one, going to put it on my Ping PLD Bruzer....

    Driver: Ping 9 G410 Plus EvenFlow Black 6.0 75g 
    Wood: Ping 14.5 G410 EvenFlow Black 6.0 85g 
    Hybrid: Ping G410 19 and 22 EvenFlow Black 6.0 95g 
    Irons: Ping i210 4-PW DGS105
    Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 54/SS 60/TS DGS105
    Putter:  ZB Vault 2.0 Stealth (Shaft and Head, Ping 58 Grip)
    Bag: 2019 Ping Hoofer
  • dmac4gdmac4g Members Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I joined the Sense Club and jumped onto the bandwagon. I am a true Putting Grip Ho. I have gone through countless grips in the past year. During a 3-day event this past summer, I actually went through 3 different putter grips. I am not embarrassed to say, I have problems!

    After reading this thread and @FairwayFred testimonial, I took a leap. I mean what harm could it do. I ordered the R1 and patiently waited for my next putter grip experiment. While waiting, I actually ordered 2 SuperStroke grips "just in case" this didn't work!

    The package arrived and I cannot begin to tell you how good the packaging is. It is really a quality grip that is sent in a very professional package. The grip itself feels really good. It is hard to say that a grip feels "high-end", but that is exactly what the R1 feels. I agree with others who have compared it to an Iomic for feel. It is similar.

    Installing the grip was a breeze. The level that is provided makes installation very precise. For the first time, I am absolutely certain that the putter grip is straight. After installing it, verifying it and retesting it again; I have learned that my eyes have lied to me all these years. This difference alone makes the grip worth its price. My starting line improved immediately. It is such a relief to set up to a putt and not worry about adjusting the face or fiddling with the grip. It gives you confidence to know it is exactly perfect, every time!

    I am not a counter-weight guy. I never have been. It has always felt strange to me and honestly I didn't think it worked. After conversation with @Drewll I agreed to try it out. If there is one negative or maybe an area for improvement in the packaging; it would be to add detailed instructions on how to use the weights. I had to pester Andrew via PM to get the instructions below, which he gladly and graciously provided!

    I went to the putting green and tried all 3 weights. I putted with the weights in 4 positions each.
    1. No weight.
    2. Weight at the butt end of grip.
    3. Weight at bottom of SAW fixture
    4. Weight under dominant hand.

    What I found was that with no weights, the putter felt exactly as before. I could use it without the weights and be fine. The increase in accuracy to the starting line due to a perfectly aligned grip made a HUGE difference. But, exactly as before might not be good enough.......
    So, I tried the 10 gram weight and thought meh...... No real change in feel or performance. I tried the 30 gram weight and had a dramatic change in feel and performance, dispersion tightened immediately and I knew I was onto something. BUT........it felt heavy......very heavy to me......
    So, I then tried the 20 gram weight and the angels began to sing. It felt better, it performed better and it actually worked in all 3 of the positions. However, It worked best under my right hand (traditional grip). In order to dial it in exactly, I put a rubber band on the grip where my thumb and index finger would pinch. I then set the middle of the weight at this point. (see pictures)

    Overall I am extremely impressed with the quality of the grip, the support from Andrew and the great buying experience that Sense offered. I feel confident that my days of searching for a grip are over. I actually feel excited to go putt and play due to the confidence I have in the club. I have played 3 rounds with it and rolled it on the green 3-4 different times. Not once did I have a day where the face looked off and I felt the need to adjust my grip to square it up. I have had days my grip didn't feel right (my fault) but knowing the grip is perfectly aligned allowed me to adjust quickly. The guys at Sense are on to something with this product. It is absolutely worth the money to give it a try. It is the real deal and is not just another gimmick. If you are on the fence, take the leap. It just might be the change you need!

  • MontanagolfMontanagolf Members Posts: 69 ✭✭

    I bought one based on this thread and used the golfwrx discount to save $5. I’m excited to try it out and will post a review.

  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Montanagolf said:
    I bought one based on this thread and used the golfwrx discount to save $5. I’m excited to try it out and will post a review.

    Crud, I forgot to use that for the second grip. So how'd you like it?

  • MontanagolfMontanagolf Members Posts: 69 ✭✭

    @4rheel said:

    Crud, I forgot to use that for the second grip. So how'd you like it?

    I have been on vacation and haven’t had a chance to install it yet. Should have some time next week & I’ll let you know.

  • m_wm_w Gearhead Members Posts: 287 ✭✭✭✭

    Is Sense owned by Will Peoples?

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