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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Noke said:

    @tbowles411 said:

    @dlygrisse said:
    Tiger vs. Jack
    Bryson vs. scientist.

    These debates could go on forever! :)

    Regardless, he's smarter than us and whatever he's doing works. Between the Golfing Machine way of swinging a club and the one length thing, it translates that we'll see him on Tour for at least the next decade.

    I understand that you’re being kind to him when you say that BD is smarter than us, but I am not willing to concede that point.

    he may be talking about Bryson's knowledge of his personal game? I dunno, I am not ready to crown Bryson a genius either. I do like his game though.

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  • ALIFALIF ArizonaMembers Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @ThinkingPlus said:

    @chiva said:

    @ThinkingPlus said:

    @chiva said:

    @c7015 said:
    he ain't no scientist

    Pretends to be a physicist and an engineer and he is wrong about the pin stuff

    But still, a **** good player making some funky methods work

    Does he even have a four year college degree?

    3 years of school at SMU. Majored in physics which implies at least a minor in math.

    So he’s obviously a smart dude but he didn’t follow through and complete his education which is disappointing. I understand the whole argument of getting out early and making money etc. etc. But some things such as an education are priceless. I know I know, he could always go back and finish if he wants to but it’s just not the same.

    His case was a little different. SMU golf was put on probation by the NCAA for what would have been his senior year. He would have still had his scholarship, but not able to play collegiate golf. So he turned pro.

    Makes sense.

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  • Aaronwilson_95Aaronwilson_95 Members Posts: 883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not that it makes it any different but just a post lesson probation ban , not the entire season he could have still played 10 events. IMO he still made the right decision though> @chiva said:

    @ThinkingPlus said:

    @chiva said:

    @ThinkingPlus said:

    @chiva said:

    @c7015 said:
    he ain't no scientist

    Pretends to be a physicist and an engineer and he is wrong about the pin stuff

    But still, a **** good player making some funky methods work

    Does he even have a four year college degree?

    3 years of school at SMU. Majored in physics which implies at least a minor in math.

    So he’s obviously a smart dude but he didn’t follow through and complete his education which is disappointing. I understand the whole argument of getting out early and making money etc. etc. But some things such as an education are priceless. I know I know, he could always go back and finish if he wants to but it’s just not the same.

    His case was a little different. SMU golf was put on probation by the NCAA for what would have been his senior year. He would have still had his scholarship, but not able to play collegiate golf. So he turned pro.

    Makes sense.

  • KevinnzKevinnz Members Posts: 304 ✭✭✭✭

    Bryson starts messing around with his bag, hmmmm...
    Too much time wasted on insignificance.

  • JAMH03JAMH03 Members Posts: 975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MountainGoat said:

    @QuigleyDU said:

    @MountainGoat said:
    What Bryson is telling us with his actions is that the one length thing doesn’t work too well with wedges.

    Those are one length.

    Yes, I know. But, his constant tinkering with his wedges is effectively saying that his concept isn't working on it's own. He had his Cobras covered with a mound of lead tape, and he admitted that he had to use a different hand position for his chips. He's got way too much height and spin, and his attempt to flight them down is just making the problem worse. Those of us who play single length clubs understand the problem well. Personally, I carry a standard length SW, and I'm ready to add a standard length GW, as well.

    Number one Dave Pelz and I knew this going in. :D But seriously do we have any DATA that suggests that BC ought to expect better results from his wedges? And why do we think that Cobra couldn't get him what he needed with his technique? Question is open to anyone I'm just curious thanks.


     



  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @JAMH03 said:

    @MountainGoat said:

    @QuigleyDU said:

    @MountainGoat said:
    What Bryson is telling us with his actions is that the one length thing doesn’t work too well with wedges.

    Those are one length.

    Yes, I know. But, his constant tinkering with his wedges is effectively saying that his concept isn't working on it's own. He had his Cobras covered with a mound of lead tape, and he admitted that he had to use a different hand position for his chips. He's got way too much height and spin, and his attempt to flight them down is just making the problem worse. Those of us who play single length clubs understand the problem well. Personally, I carry a standard length SW, and I'm ready to add a standard length GW, as well.

    Number one Dave Pelz and I knew this going in. :D But seriously do we have any DATA that suggests that BC ought to expect better results from his wedges? And why do we think that Cobra couldn't get him what he needed with his technique? Question is open to anyone I'm just curious thanks.

    We know from personal observation and his own comments that BC has too much spin on his full swing wedges. We’re all speculating on how he’s addressing the issue. Not clear to me why PXG would offer a solution that Cobra could not.

  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MountainGoat said:

    @JAMH03 said:

    @MountainGoat said:

    @QuigleyDU said:

    @MountainGoat said:
    What Bryson is telling us with his actions is that the one length thing doesn’t work too well with wedges.

    Those are one length.

    Yes, I know. But, his constant tinkering with his wedges is effectively saying that his concept isn't working on it's own. He had his Cobras covered with a mound of lead tape, and he admitted that he had to use a different hand position for his chips. He's got way too much height and spin, and his attempt to flight them down is just making the problem worse. Those of us who play single length clubs understand the problem well. Personally, I carry a standard length SW, and I'm ready to add a standard length GW, as well.

    Number one Dave Pelz and I knew this going in. :D But seriously do we have any DATA that suggests that BC ought to expect better results from his wedges? And why do we think that Cobra couldn't get him what he needed with his technique? Question is open to anyone I'm just curious thanks.

    We know from personal observation and his own comments that BC has too much spin on his full swing wedges. We’re all speculating on how he’s addressing the issue. Not clear to me why PXG would offer a solution that Cobra could not.

    unclear to me as well. The only thing that would make sense is $$$. Does he still have them in play this week?

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
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  • ThinkingPlusThinkingPlus South TexasClubWRX Posts: 1,791 ClubWRX

    @MountainGoat said:

    @JAMH03 said:

    @MountainGoat said:

    @QuigleyDU said:

    @MountainGoat said:
    What Bryson is telling us with his actions is that the one length thing doesn’t work too well with wedges.

    Those are one length.

    Yes, I know. But, his constant tinkering with his wedges is effectively saying that his concept isn't working on it's own. He had his Cobras covered with a mound of lead tape, and he admitted that he had to use a different hand position for his chips. He's got way too much height and spin, and his attempt to flight them down is just making the problem worse. Those of us who play single length clubs understand the problem well. Personally, I carry a standard length SW, and I'm ready to add a standard length GW, as well.

    Number one Dave Pelz and I knew this going in. :D But seriously do we have any DATA that suggests that BC ought to expect better results from his wedges? And why do we think that Cobra couldn't get him what he needed with his technique? Question is open to anyone I'm just curious thanks.

    We know from personal observation and his own comments that BC has too much spin on his full swing wedges. We’re all speculating on how he’s addressing the issue. Not clear to me why PXG would offer a solution that Cobra could not.

    My speculation is that BC wanted a solution NOW and tinkered with everyone's wedges until he found a lower spin answer. Cobra is now probably working on their version to suit his needs. Just a guess.

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  • JAMH03JAMH03 Members Posts: 975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just free wheeling here but I wonder if BC could just change his golf ball and get to where he wants to go?


     



  • capnstabncapnstabn Members Posts: 132 ✭✭✭

    @MountainGoat said:
    What Bryson is telling us with his actions is that the one length thing doesn’t work too well with wedges.

    Being a few years into one length, I can attest to this. When I was bagging the F7 OLs I had issues with everything above 48 degrees wanting to go the same distance, with loft increments only wanting to spin more. I ended up just switching back to VL for GW/SW. Bryson went PXG for the adjustable weighting. Its why Edel put the adjustable weighting in their one length iron design.

  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @capnstabn said:

    @MountainGoat said:
    What Bryson is telling us with his actions is that the one length thing doesn’t work too well with wedges.

    Being a few years into one length, I can attest to this. When I was bagging the F7 OLs I had issues with everything above 48 degrees wanting to go the same distance, with loft increments only wanting to spin more. I ended up just switching back to VL for GW/SW. Bryson went PXG for the adjustable weighting. Its why Edel put the adjustable weighting in their one length iron design.

    I'm doing something similar. I carry 4-GW in SL with a VL GW and SW. Hence, I've got two gap wedges with approximately the same loft. The SL-GW is a full swing club, while the VL-GW complements my SW and gives me a full variety of partial swings. The same thing happens on the other end of the bag, as I've got a SL 4-iron and a VL 5W with approximately the same loft. It all makes sense if you think about performance rather than loft.

  • iBanestoiBanesto Niclas Fasth Members Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Does it make him play faster?

  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Didnt he have cobra wedges back in the bag for the tour championship? I think he did.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • WaytallWaytall Members Posts: 63 ✭✭

    Maybe he is going full PXG with the new milled blades. That would be great to see

  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Waytall said:
    Maybe he is going full PXG with the new milled blades. That would be great to see

    That was my first thought, but I kinda do not see him leaving Cobra for a while. They have gone all in on his one length system and it would be a pretty big blow for him to move on.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • ExTrumpetExTrumpet Members Posts: 505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would taking away weight in the sole and adding it higher bring his flight and spin down? Maybe that's what he was doing with the PXG's and their screw holes.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @ExTrumpet said:
    Would taking away weight in the sole and adding it higher bring his flight and spin down? Maybe that's what he was doing with the PXG's and their screw holes.

    From what I understand higher weight lowers launch but increases spin.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow

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