College golfer in need of help

Never really had a lesson, basically self taught but now that I’m in college I need some help to take my game to the next level. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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  • copperjeffcopperjeff Members Posts: 967 ✭✭

    Your right shoulder works too much down and not enough out to start downswing. You need to feel like either left shoulder stays down in transition or right shoulder works more out towards the ball. Will likely feel like you are coming way over the top. You get very under the plane right now so that's to be expected.

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  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Okay thank you. Will give it a try

  • laneholtlaneholt Members Posts: 583 ✭✭

    Brandon,
    Are the hooks and pulls your issue?
    Lane

  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Lane,
    For the most part yes, consistency is the main issue.

  • extrastiffextrastiff Members Posts: 884 ✭✭

    @Brandon1999 said:
    Lane,
    For the most part yes, consistency is the main issue.

    Tough to say without a series of swings to judge the consistency issue, that swing looks pretty decent. do your inconsitent shots feel like they have any sort of pattern (for example, my misses typically are accompanied by catching the bottom groove, almost a top-ball). I have seen many people gain some consitency when they "covered" the ball a bit more. sergio garcia practices this forward leaning balance by placing golf balls under the heels of his shoes. getting more compact/over the ball at address really helped my consistency.

    Also, what is your pre-shot routine?

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  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Most of the time my misses are thin shots, blocks, and hooks. My pre shot routine is two practice swings thinking about the shot I hit then I execute. > @extrastiff said:

    @Brandon1999 said:
    Lane,
    For the most part yes, consistency is the main issue.

    Tough to say without a series of swings to judge the consistency issue, that swing looks pretty decent. do your inconsitent shots feel like they have any sort of pattern (for example, my misses typically are accompanied by catching the bottom groove, almost a top-ball). I have seen many people gain some consitency when they "covered" the ball a bit more. sergio garcia practices this forward leaning balance by placing golf balls under the heels of his shoes. getting more compact/over the ball at address really helped my consistency.

    Also, what is your pre-shot routine?

  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Here is another video.

  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers Posts: 12,213 ✭✭

    Seems like you're struggling to stay in balance

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  • JAMH03JAMH03 Members Posts: 809 ✭✭

    @Brandon1999 said:
    Never really had a lesson, basically self taught but now that I’m in college I need some help to take my game to the next level. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    @Brandon1999 What does next level mean to you? What's your goal?


  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    My goal is to make my game more consistent than what it is. Currently I’ll shoot under par one day and the next an 80. I can’t win tournaments because of the inconsistency but I know I have the potential.

  • laneholtlaneholt Members Posts: 583 ✭✭

    And those hooks and pulls seem to rear their ugly head more often when we are under pressure trying to get through the round . If that is the case you had better have a heart to heart talk with those extremities on the ends of your arms-~ AKA - your external brain and the dominant part of your body—- the HANDS! You must teach them to NOT roll over , turn down and throw the toe at the ball. You got 2/10 seconds for the DS and the HANDS will ALWAYS roll over as they are genetically designed to and - watch out left. This will happen at the very start of the DS so it must be preprogrammed. Can’t alter / change once. You start down.
    Keep your right palm up and / or your right pinkie finger above the right thumb and sweep the lever down and around.
    Good luck,

    Lane

  • extrastiffextrastiff Members Posts: 884 ✭✭

    @Brandon1999 said:
    My goal is to make my game more consistent than what it is. Currently I’ll shoot under par one day and the next an 80. I can’t win tournaments because of the inconsistency but I know I have the potential.

    I would agree with carnoustie that you seem off balance a bit. I would caution you to not get too crazy down the rabbit hole of overthinking what you need to do differently if you can shoot par.

    Do what you need to stay down/over the ball, consistently. It can differ from person to person what move will work best. If you get a new problem of its not the shape you want, great. thats a fun fix. but stop thinning it. gonna be hard to make fixes if your hitting it all over the face.

    Also, i recommend a preshot routine that includes checking distance from the ball, face angle, feet alignment, grip placement, etc. I have one thats about 10 steps, and i would really struggle to play under par without it.

    g400 max 9* | hzrdus black 75 6.5
    g400 15.5* | tensei white 80tx
    p790 3i | steelfiber 95x
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    sm6 52*8, 56*8, 60*4 | s400 ti
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  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    @JAMH03 said:

    @Brandon1999 said:
    Never really had a lesson, basically self taught but now that I’m in college I need some help to take my game to the next level. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    @Brandon1999 What does next level mean to you? What's your goal?

    @extrastiff said:

    @Brandon1999 said:
    My goal is to make my game more consistent than what it is. Currently I’ll shoot under par one day and the next an 80. I can’t win tournaments because of the inconsistency but I know I have the potential.

    I would agree with carnoustie that you seem off balance a bit. I would caution you to not get too crazy down the rabbit hole of overthinking what you need to do differently if you can shoot par.

    Do what you need to stay down/over the ball, consistently. It can differ from person to person what move will work best. If you get a new problem of its not the shape you want, great. thats a fun fix. but stop thinning it. gonna be hard to make fixes if your hitting it all over the face.

    Also, i recommend a preshot routine that includes checking distance from the ball, face angle, feet alignment, grip placement, etc. I have one thats about 10 steps, and i would really struggle to play under par without it.

    Okay. I will definitely try to add more steps to my pre shot routine. I played again today and the problem was not with the contacts, it was mainly hooks. But thank you for the advice, I will be sure to use it.

  • copperjeffcopperjeff Members Posts: 967 ✭✭

    You hit hooks/blocks and have low point issues because you come into the ball severely under plane. You come in way under plane due to the right shoulder dropping straight down in transition.

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  • Brandon1999Brandon1999 Members Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Worked on this today again and it definitely has helped. Thanks.

    @copperjeff said:
    You hit hooks/blocks and have low point issues because you come into the ball severely under plane. You come in way under plane due to the right shoulder dropping straight down in transition.

  • extrastiffextrastiff Members Posts: 884 ✭✭

    @Brandon1999 said:

    @JAMH03 said:

    @Brandon1999 said:
    Never really had a lesson, basically self taught but now that I’m in college I need some help to take my game to the next level. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    @Brandon1999 What does next level mean to you? What's your goal?

    @extrastiff said:

    @Brandon1999 said:
    My goal is to make my game more consistent than what it is. Currently I’ll shoot under par one day and the next an 80. I can’t win tournaments because of the inconsistency but I know I have the potential.

    I would agree with carnoustie that you seem off balance a bit. I would caution you to not get too crazy down the rabbit hole of overthinking what you need to do differently if you can shoot par.

    Do what you need to stay down/over the ball, consistently. It can differ from person to person what move will work best. If you get a new problem of its not the shape you want, great. thats a fun fix. but stop thinning it. gonna be hard to make fixes if your hitting it all over the face.

    Also, i recommend a preshot routine that includes checking distance from the ball, face angle, feet alignment, grip placement, etc. I have one thats about 10 steps, and i would really struggle to play under par without it.

    Okay. I will definitely try to add more steps to my pre shot routine. I played again today and the problem was not with the contacts, it was mainly hooks. But thank you for the advice, I will be sure to use it.

    Sure! here is my routine. i figure typing it might help both of us, as i always rush and miss a step(when i hook, usually cause i had too much left hand to weak (more than two knuckles showing), which is the step of my routine i forget most often):
    1.walk up to the ball from the angle i want the ball to travel when i hit it
    2.i line up the face of the club behind the ball, feet together comfortablyfar away from the ball but still compact so i can stay down and balanced throughout the swing, adjusting my face of the club to be perpendicular to my intended target line
    3. spread feet to my comfortable width, check that they are square to my target-line by hold my club shaft above them as a quick reference.
    4. adjust the back foot forward/back depending on if i want a draw or fade
    5. set the club back behind the ball, resetting to proper face angle, making sure the shaft lean is at the proper anger as well.
    6. set my grip, left hand weak if i want a draw,strong for fade
    7. final check for balance, making sure i feel compact and like im standing "over" the ball, not really on my toes, but similar to how sergio garcias "golf-ball under heels" feels. more weight on toes, but heels firmly pressing down too.

    So i guess its seven steps. if i do all that, and then do a nice, full, relaxed swing, i can play pretty well.

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  • JAMH03JAMH03 Members Posts: 809 ✭✭

    @Brandon99

    Here's my take You've got so much going for you already. You're playing, you've already got an advanced swing, you've got scores to base your decisions off of. You're working hard when other kids are partying. You are addressing your areas of weakness. You're going to make progress just being Brandon well done!

    If you might consider my perspective I might add to the above.

    1. You need a goal that is exciting to you!

    This general I want to be more consistent is not likely to payoff. Can you think of a goal that's so exciting would make you jump out of bed on your day off?

    If you could that would be something!

    1. You'll probably want to apply these thoughts to what you come up with so you can really challenge yourself to put your talents on full display and get the maximum benefit for the time you put in.

    Let us know what you come up with!


  • laneholtlaneholt Members Posts: 583 ✭✭

    Brandon,
    All this pre shot routine stuff and goals ( blah, blah ) is nice window dressing and you may have the best stance,grip, ball position, etc; on the entire Planet, BUT your HANDS are the ONLY part of the Human connected to the butt end of that lever you hold in your hands. Our HAND control body movement and they control the face of that lever. AND — they are going to return to the centerline of you torso palms together if you do not train them otherwise. You have to train your dominant right HAND to perform a task that is TOTALLY FOREIGN AND UNNATURAL TO THE HUMAN GENETIC DESIGN.
    You MUST keep the palm of the right HAND facing upward / skyward during the DS. It is the job of the turning of the torso that squares the face , NOT THE HANDS!
    You can go off on a wild goose chase , but I have been right where you are and have been through the hooks and pulls and - the control of the HANDS is the key.
    Good luck,

    Lane

  • extrastiffextrastiff Members Posts: 884 ✭✭

    @laneholt said:
    Brandon,
    All this pre shot routine stuff and goals ( blah, blah ) is nice window dressing and you may have the best stance,grip, ball position, etc; on the entire Planet, BUT your HANDS are the ONLY part of the Human connected to the butt end of that lever you hold in your hands. Our HAND control body movement and they control the face of that lever. AND — they are going to return to the centerline of you torso palms together if you do not train them otherwise. You have to train your dominant right HAND to perform a task that is TOTALLY FOREIGN AND UNNATURAL TO THE HUMAN GENETIC DESIGN.
    You MUST keep the palm of the right HAND facing upward / skyward during the DS. It is the job of the turning of the torso that squares the face , NOT THE HANDS!
    You can go off on a wild goose chase , but I have been right where you are and have been through the hooks and pulls and - the control of the HANDS is the key.
    Good luck,

    Lane

    lol ok lane we get it. u love hands.

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    g400 15.5* | tensei white 80tx
    p790 3i | steelfiber 95x
    919tour 4-9 | x100
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    sm6 52*8, 56*8, 60*4 | s400 ti
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