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SCalGolferSCalGolfer Members  201WRX Points: 130Posts: 201 Fairways
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Hi guys,

I searched and didn't see anything. Does anyone know what the 2020 Camerons will be like? I'm hoping they go back to a non-insert model as I don't like the current lineup. I would also prefer a cleaner design without the words Scotty & Cameron, and big dots all over the clubhead. Black is a nice color. Scotty's early clean designs are my favorite. I currently game a 2009 Studio Select NP2.

Thanks in advance.

PS - the current NP2 is very nice minus the insert.

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  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers  3282WRX Points: 603Handicap: 8.3Posts: 3,282 Titanium Tees
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    The change to a non-insert putter head in the Phantom line hopefully signals a change across the board. This said, I prefer the Futura 7M/5M/5.5M over the Phantom line in both looks and feel.

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  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Members  2571WRX Points: 540Handicap: 3Posts: 2,571 Titanium Tees
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    If nothing else, the current run of inserts for several years has really boosted the secondary market for the Classic's, PP's, Studio Stainless' , and Circas etc.!

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  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Members  2571WRX Points: 540Handicap: 3Posts: 2,571 Titanium Tees
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    Hopefully they resemble these, with absolutely NO dots and a very minimal sole like pictured. It could be the biggest OTR release of SC's history. Blank neck, blank bumpers, Titleist script in the cavity, and small Scotty Cameron on the face(think classics). At worst for the sole, a classy Tei/Classic-like 'Scotty Cameron' with the line underneath on the sole(by Titleist).

    Biggest offering though, NP and NP2 with optional flange lines. Make half of each model naked and the other half with lines. The NP2 naked, or even with topline sight-aids looks much cleaner to some folks.

    https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769376/new-cameron-putters-including-matsuyamas-2019-pga-championship#latest

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  • GeorgeHWBGeorgeHWB Members  2195WRX Points: 1,637Posts: 2,195 Platinum Tees
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    It makes zero sense to make a putter with an insert that is made from the same material as the rest of the putter. Just dumb. This has to stop, Scotty.

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  • SkhackerSkhacker The Minimalist Golfer Members  1722WRX Points: 237Handicap: 6Posts: 1,722 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @Im_A_Savage said:

    It makes zero sense to make a putter with an insert that is made from the same material as the rest of the putter. Just dumb. This has to stop, Scotty.

    But then what would he do with his stock of double-sided tape?

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    On -, @Skhacker said:

    On -, @Im_A_Savage said:

    It makes zero sense to make a putter with an insert that is made from the same material as the rest of the putter. Just dumb. This has to stop, Scotty.

    But then what would he do with his stock of double-sided tape?

    Maybe he finally ran out??

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  • semarlorsemarlor Charlotte, NCMembers  1007WRX Points: 337Posts: 1,007 Platinum Tees
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    Part of me thinks he knows exactly what he's doing. Release inserts and busy designs for years and make everyone long for the older styles...then release a clean, simple, solid head and sell a freaking ton of them. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit but I can already tell that it will be a huge seller if something anywhere close to what we are seeing is released. I am including myself in this and I haven't ponied up for a new putter in 10 years (but I've bought and sold dozens of used ones.)

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  • tom.lockharttom.lockhart Members  98WRX Points: 73Handicap: 7.4Posts: 98 Fairways
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    God I hope we can get a non-insert scotty. I just bought a 2012 Select in the awesome Black Mist finish because I've been waiting for a **** Scotty for too long!

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  • braincramp52braincramp52 Freeport, IllinoisMembers  6533WRX Points: 1,767Handicap: 8Posts: 6,533 Titanium Tees
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    I think the insert putters catch a bad rap. Much to do about nothin' The deep milled stuff is worse. My 2 cents.

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  • j.a.j.a. Members  1750WRX Points: 194Posts: 1,750 Platinum Tees
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    I do hope that next generation would be a more classic approach, it’s good the Tei3 has been relaunched and hopefully a full St.St. might be released, I mean with no aluminium insert like all those legendary putters from the 2000’s

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  • ChrisTChrisT Members  17WRX Points: 44Handicap: 9Posts: 17 Bunkers
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    I haven't bought a new SC for 10 years but loads of old ones. I'd def buy these. The current models with inserts sound like a Hyundai.

    oops. Except for T22.......Just had to. It may remain in plastic.

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    On -, @ChrisT said:

    The current models with inserts sound like a Hyundai.

    oops. Except for T22.......Just had to. It may remain in plastic.

    I would say, those models sound like a Lada... the Hyundai i30N actually sounds pretty good 😉

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  • JoelsimJoelsim Members  1435WRX Points: 534Handicap: 12Posts: 1,435 Platinum Tees
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    Get a Bettinardi or a Piretti instead.

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    With the recent T22 launch, maybe we’ll see return to classic next year? I mean Scotty OTR has gotten way too busy.

    I remember there was some issues with wear and tear of the 2012 Black Mist Select line, hence it became silver in 2014.

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  • TigerInTheWoodsTigerInTheWoods Members  2653WRX Points: 1,667Handicap: 4Posts: 2,653 Titanium Tees
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    I feel like many read the hate for inserts and then go in with preconceptions when they roll them. It's like a massive witch hunt. I play an older Scotty and the feel is gorgeous but the new ones are great too. Yeah, a cleaner look would be nice I guess but they're still d*mn good putters.

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  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers  3725WRX Points: 709Handicap: 8.2Posts: 3,725 Titanium Tees
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    I can't stand the inserts when compared to the stainless steel selects. Don't feel as good and just makes 0 sense. Would love to see a clean, carbon steel, non-insert, shallow milled release. Will never happen though.

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    On -, @brew4eagle said:

    I can't stand the inserts when compared to the stainless steel selects. Don't feel as good and just makes 0 sense. Would love to see a clean, carbon steel, non-insert, shallow milled release. Will never happen though.

    Yeah, carbon is dead. Sucks
    But supposedly the next line is going to be solid milled again.
    No confirmation, so I'll believe it when I see.

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  • leftycabeleftycabe IowaClubWRX  164WRX Points: 130Handicap: GolfPosts: 164 ClubWRX
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    I haven’t heard specifics on the putter itself but a rep informed my “putter guy” that the new line is going to retail between $469-499. To me, that signals the solid one piece and they’ll tell a story about how they “refined” this and that and the new price point is going to be indicative of the premium materials, etc. I’ll be annoyed by the whole thing and then buy one anyway. 🤦‍♂️

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    On -, @leftycabe said:

    I haven’t heard specifics on the putter itself but a rep informed my “putter guy” that the new line is going to retail between $469-499. To me, that signals the solid one piece and they’ll tell a story about how they “refined” this and that and the new price point is going to be indicative of the premium materials, etc. I’ll be annoyed by the whole thing and then buy one anyway. 🤦‍♂️

    At that price point just go custom made

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  • tangojaytangojay Members  1076WRX Points: 199Posts: 1,076 Platinum Tees
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    I wonder if he re-released this in order to maintain the price of the original TeI putters and re-set the OEM putter price?
    At one time, $299 was unheard off price for a putter, now it seems $299 is almost a standard price for a OEM putter. Look at the current Cameron list prices, nothing under $399.
    I would not doubt a re-release of Stainless Newport's and Newport 2's at $599 or $699 is too far.
    But again, I could and have been wrong thousands of times before,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    On -, @tangojay said:

    At one time, $299 was unheard off price for a putter, now it seems $299 is almost a standard price for a OEM putter. Look at the current Cameron list prices, nothing under $399.
    I would not doubt a re-release of Stainless Newport's and Newport 2's at $599 or $699 is too far.

    We better don’t look at the price of drivers. At some point I believe the manufacturers themselves are helping to kill Golf with such big prices on everything regardless that most gear is made in China in these days...

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    On -, @j.a. said:

    On -, @tangojay said:

    At one time, $299 was unheard off price for a putter, now it seems $299 is almost a standard price for a OEM putter. Look at the current Cameron list prices, nothing under $399.
    I would not doubt a re-release of Stainless Newport's and Newport 2's at $599 or $699 is too far.

    We better don’t look at the price of drivers. At some point I believe the manufacturers themselves are helping to kill Golf with such big prices on everything regardless that most gear is made in China in these days...

    Costs of materials have gone up, cost to transport has gone up, while made overseas many assemble in the states and labor costs have gone up. Companies are spending more on r&d and marketing. A large portion of a releases budget is marketing.

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    Price of irons have gone up ever since pxg

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    I can stomach $399 OTR. It has been a while since I bought a brand new OTR (nothing appealing to me).

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    Pretty sure the T22 release was a test to see how well the public reacts to the higher prices everyone was eager to spend 600+ on the putters now when the 2020 models come out prices at 450 or more there will not be as much sticker shock.

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  • Rory4PresRory4Pres Members  1490WRX Points: 441Handicap: 1Posts: 1,490 Platinum Tees
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    The last time Scotty made a long neck blade....19 years ago. Just saying, if anyone has a voice to complain....

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    On -, @GoGoErky said:

    On -, @j.a. said:

    On -, @tangojay said:

    At one time, $299 was unheard off price for a putter, now it seems $299 is almost a standard price for a OEM putter. Look at the current Cameron list prices, nothing under $399.
    I would not doubt a re-release of Stainless Newport's and Newport 2's at $599 or $699 is too far.

    We better don’t look at the price of drivers. At some point I believe the manufacturers themselves are helping to kill Golf with such big prices on everything regardless that most gear is made in China in these days...

    Costs of materials have gone up, cost to transport has gone up, while made overseas many assemble in the states and labor costs have gone up. Companies are spending more on r&d and marketing. A large portion of a releases budget is marketing.

    Actually, Scotty Cameron has done this before, in an article with GOLF magazine, he stated he price his putters to a price the market would support, this marketing ploy, in my opinion was followed by PXG, I am sure you can find post here bashing them when they first introduced $1,200 plus iron sets.
    Now, many don’t even blink an eye. A driver today costs more than my complete PING set in ‘82, including a BECU putter.

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