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Justin Rose has broken ranks from golf’s leading players by criticising the new schedule for 2019, which features four majors in as many months. This week’s Open Championship rounds off a major season that used to end with the US PGA; that tournament has been brought forward to May from August and Rose believes the new calendar is detrimental to competitor preparations.

 

The former world No 1 said: “In my opinion they’re too soon. It’s too condensed. As a professional in terms of trying to peak for something, the process that’s involved in trying to do that can be detailed and it can be longer than a month. So that’s my reasoning for that.”

 

“I think it’s pretty much driven by FedExCup, wanting to finish on a certain date, everything else having to fit in where it can,” Rose added. “For me major championships should be the things that are protected the most. That’s how all of our careers ultimately are going to be measured. Thirty, 40 years ago there wasn’t a FedExCup so if you’re trying to compare one career to another career, Jack [Nicklaus] versus Tiger [Woods], it’s the majors … they’re the benchmarks. For them to be tweaked so much I think is quite interesting at this point.”

 

Personally I agree with Rose though for other reasons, mainly that the four most important tournaments in golf are over within a third of the year. I'd rather see them spread out a bit more. Thoughts?

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> @MMB1500 said:

> “For me major championships should be the things that are protected the most. That’s how all of our careers ultimately are going to be measured. Thirty, 40 years ago there wasn’t a FedExCup so if you’re trying to compare one career to another career, Jack [Nicklaus] versus Tiger [Woods], it’s the majors … they’re the benchmarks. For them to be tweaked so much I think is quite interesting at this point.”

 

I looked on YouTube but I couldn't find the commercial for the FedEx Cup that had a bunch of guys talking about how years from now it would be looked at as being just as big as the majors. It would be ironic if Justin was in that commercial.

 

 

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Justin Rose:

"In my opinion they’re too soon."

Me:

The 2019 Masters started 6 days later than the 2018 Masters. Every Major was later this year compared to last year except for the PGA Championship. Try again.

 

Justin Rose:

"It’s too condensed."

Me:

There was 129 days between the first round of the 2018 Masters and final round of the 2018 PGA Championship. There will be 102 days between the first round of the 2019 Master and the final round of the 2019 Open Championship. That's a little more than a 3 week difference in total time. You make it sound like the majors are happening within 60 days total time. Relax.

 

Justin Rose:

"As a professional in terms of trying to peak for something, the process that’s involved in trying to do that can be detailed and it can be longer than a month."

Me:

There was less than a month between the final round of the 2018 US Open and the first practice round of the 2018 Open Championship. There was HALF of a month between the final round of the 2018 Open Championship and the first practice round of the 2018 PGA Championship. Clearly preparation for those tournaments, and the lack of time between those events have never bothered you before, why does it bother you now?

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I can't say I disagree. I like my golf all year around. I understand that's not feasible but meaningful golf only being played between Feb-August that includes a month of nothingness between US and UK Opens is bad scheduling and doesn't quite satiate my golf appetites.

 

Actually I think a big part of the problem is all the big tournaments crammed together from late January to March. In a span of 10 weeks we have these 10 tournaments:

1) Torrey

2) Phoenix

3) Pebble

4) Genesis (Riviera)

5) WGC Mexico

6) Honda

7) Arnold Palmer

8) Players

9) Valsper

10) WGC Match Play

 

That's way too front loaded and crammed together so the big name players have no choice but to skip many of these that they would normally otherwise play. Why can't they fit one of those in during the lull between the two opens? And one maybe even later in the year. That would make the schedule more balanced as opposed to having all these big tournaments before April (aka real golf season) even begins and then only having the majors + Memorial in the next 4 months.

 

There should also never be a WGC the week after a major like the one next week, I'm sure a lot of players will skip that too because of having just played oversees in the open.

 

Tldr: schedule is too front loaded and needs more balance and have it spread out over the year to accommodate the players and as well keep fans watching all year.

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i don't know that he was whining, but i don't understand, as has been pointed out, his perspective that the majors are closer to each other ... the last three this year or last year are a month apart ... and, yes, they did do it for fedex reasons because competing against the nfl could have a negative effect on that big check they get for winning the fedex ...

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> @MMB1500 said:

> Justin Rose has broken ranks from golf’s leading players by criticising the new schedule for 2019, which features four majors in as many months. This week’s Open Championship rounds off a major season that used to end with the US PGA; that tournament has been brought forward to May from August and Rose believes the new calendar is detrimental to competitor preparations.

>

> The former world No 1 said: “In my opinion they’re too soon. It’s too condensed. As a professional in terms of trying to peak for something, the process that’s involved in trying to do that can be detailed and it can be longer than a month. So that’s my reasoning for that.”

>

> “I think it’s pretty much driven by FedExCup, wanting to finish on a certain date, everything else having to fit in where it can,” Rose added. “For me major championships should be the things that are protected the most. That’s how all of our careers ultimately are going to be measured. Thirty, 40 years ago there wasn’t a FedExCup so if you’re trying to compare one career to another career, Jack [Nicklaus] versus Tiger [Woods], it’s the majors … they’re the benchmarks. For them to be tweaked so much I think is quite interesting at this point.”

>

> Personally I agree with Rose though for other reasons, mainly that the four most important tournaments in golf are over within a third of the year. I'd rather see them spread out a bit more. Thoughts?

 

Im really enjoying this, lets give it some time.

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I agree with Justin, hard to believe the major season will be done after this weekend. It also seems to me that the new schedule is making the top name players play less. Taking 3 weeks off and only playing in the majors.

I'm sure this schedule makes the most money for the tour and they'll be done before football starts, which is what they want.

 

 

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> @dcmidnight said:

> Honestly I thought he sounded like a big complainer for absolutely no reason, sounded like he was trying to throw shade at the FedEx Cup. Sorry man, how did your $10M check do, did it deposit OK? Honestly I dont know what he is whining about. The last three majors of the year have ALWAYS been a month apart. So instead of being June/July/August they are now May/June/July. Shut up already.

 

Yep. He's talking like the PGA was in October. 3 weeks, that's how much "longer" the old major season was.

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It’s really the stupid FedEx Cup that is messing this up. They have put too much corporate dough behind that series, and it basically knocks out the entire month of August, which is a great time to play golf in a lot of this country. Aaaaand, they could have the last major culminate right before football kicks off, which would be a massive showcase before gridiron takes over. They really need to figure out how to tinker with the FedEx Cup. Maybe do two tournaments; a 125 man field and a 60 man field, winner take all, do all the points and stuff accordingly. Figure it out.

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> @TheBear95 said:

 

> Yep. He's talking like the PGA was in October. 3 weeks, that's how much "longer" the old major season was.

 

There is a 28 day difference in last year vs this year, that is 4 weeks less time. It cut the major season by ~22% which is a lot going from 18.5 weeks to 14.5 weeks. I think I’m the end this is going to hurt the pga a lot as well as the handicapped tour championship.

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Refreshing to see someone actually state the obvious. Couldn't agree with him more that the new schedule is 100% about protecting the FedEx Cup Finish, not the Majors. There will never be an asterisk next to the greats of the game that states "__ FedEx Cup wins", it will always be about the Majors. The summer tour schedule used to build up towards the PGA, now it will just fizzle out towards the final events of the season.

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Amazing how much pull the NFL has. They directly have affected global sports scheduling. Unintentionally of course, but still, just amazes me.

On that same note, my mother's birthday is the 2nd week in January and we always have something going on that weekend. Well for those who are NFL fans, you know that 2nd weekend in January is a major playoff round so she always complaining that we have to plan the birthday dinner around the playoff games. "Is it really that important?" she asks. My response this year was "It's important enough that the PGA Tour rearranged their schedule so they could get out of the NFL's way."

 

As for Rose's comments; I think he's arguing the wrong point. It isn't the major's and how far apart they are (That's already been well documented here as to how silly that is) I actually think it's the WGC events that are making the schedule feel more cramped than it actually is.

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There's no doubt that they changed things for the Fed Ex Cup. They've tried desperately to elevate the Player's Championship and the Fed Ex Cup to major like status but the people aren't buying it. It's all about the Majors to the fans, players, and the rest of it just is what it is. They'll all play the Players and the Fed Ex because the money's good and it's good for the Tour. But.... they all want to win Majors, first and foremost.

 

The PGA Tour doesn't control the Majors or the money made from them. I can understand why that would rankle them, but they need to be careful how they navigate through that disappointment. The Majors lift golf way up, as does the Ryder Cup. The Tour may not make money or control those events, but they benefit greatly as the tide from those events lifts the Tour. I'm not sure Rose is right in this instance, but the Tour shouldn't lose sight of how important the Majors are and how they butter the Tour's bread.

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agree 1000% the new schedule is soley to boost up the "hype" or lack of their with the FedEx Cup, Majors, Majors and Majors....

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> @golfer07840 said:

> Amazing how much pull the NFL has. They directly have affected global sports scheduling. Unintentionally of course, but still, just amazes me.

> On that same note, my mother's birthday is the 2nd week in January and we always have something going on that weekend. Well for those who are NFL fans, you know that 2nd weekend in January is a major playoff round so she always complaining that we have to plan the birthday dinner around the playoff games. "Is it really that important?" she asks. My response this year was "It's important enough that the PGA Tour rearranged their schedule so they could get out of the NFL's way."

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> As for Rose's comments; I think he's arguing the wrong point. It isn't the major's and how far apart they are (That's already been well documented here as to how silly that is) I actually think **it's the WGC events that** are making the schedule feel more cramped than it actually is.

 

yep .. mexico or austin has to go, replaced by memphis ... only way to do it ...

 

 

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> @"Ronnie Mundt" said:

> It’s really the stupid FedEx Cup that is messing this up. They have put too much corporate dough behind that series, and it basically knocks out the entire month of August, which is a great time to play golf in a lot of this country. Aaaaand, they could have the last major culminate right before football kicks off, which would be a massive showcase before gridiron takes over. They really need to figure out how to tinker with the FedEx Cup. Maybe do two tournaments; a 125 man field and a 60 man field, winner take all, do all the points and stuff accordingly. Figure it out.

 

Agreed.

Many fans could care less about the FedEx playoffs but the corporations have sunk so much $ into it..

I really don't think playoffs are necessary at all esp in an individual sport. In the NBA it's all about the playoffs/Finals/championships but in golf it's always been about Majors and measuring yourself against the greats like Nicklaus.

In the same way professional tennis has always been about Wimbledon, etc.

With that said it's kinda crazy that Rose, who won the FedEx cup last year, is the one speaking up about this issue.

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