Mizuno MP-20 - July 2019

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  • beluga99beluga99 If Matrix was here, he'd laugh too...  957Members Posts: 957
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    @Mudguard said:
    A little Team Blue action

    Looks great. What set up did you go with? Same shaft in wedges as irons?

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    917 F2
    i25 5w
    Anser 23
    Fli-Hi
    919T 6-P
    SM7 52F 56F 60D
    Odyssey
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  • MBBGMBBG South of Chicagoland 1601Members Posts: 1,601
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    @musclefront said:

    @MBBG said:
    Yeah I think MBs have become synonymous with blades but MBs were actually the first GI technology. Yururi still makes JDM “flatback” irons in multiple finishes I believe. Kyoei forged.

    Those are still musclebacks. The weight has to go somewhere. Only ones are the Norman blades but that had the reverse muscle on the top.

    Yeah I looked at them and they have a more pronounced muscle than I remembered them having.

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    S Yard T.388 Kuro Kage Dual Core TiNi 
    TaylorMade Original One 13.5* HZRDUS Green
    Titleist TS2 16.5* Kuro Kage XM
    Mizuno MP-20 HMB 3-6 MP-20 Blade 7-P DG AMT
    Mizuno T20 50 and 55 S400 TI 
    Callaway PM Grind 60
    PXG Operator LTD Edition “Darkness”
  • capkingcapking Canada 530Members Posts: 530
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    @Mudguard said:
    A little Team Blue action

    Those are sweet, I’m going to go with 5 degrees difference and rock a 51 and 56. Picked up the 3i in the set so something needs to come out. Mulling over the glide 3.0’s too.... decisions decisions

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  • MudguardMudguard  1314Members Posts: 1,314
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    @beluga99 said:

    @Mudguard said:
    A little Team Blue action

    Looks great. What set up did you go with? Same shaft in wedges as irons?

    I've got no idea :D They were thrust upon me as is my brother's way. Came out of the proshop on Saturday morning after printing my card and my bloody brother had whipped out my APs. Irons shafts are the same as my old irons. I'm not sure about the wedges actually. I don't even know what was in my Vokeys. Probably the DG S300 or whatever their wedge one is. No idea what were in the Mizuno wedges!

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  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat....  1612Members Posts: 1,612
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    First round of 18 holes with my MP20s yesterday. Clubs performed flawlessly. If anything I was even more impressed with the MMCs than when I left my range session at the fitters.

    There is a big component of their performance that I put to the Nippon 130Xs but the feel of the MP20s is undeniable, they're a big step up from the MP18s.

    To say the MBs are demanding is unfair, but I've got the set split at 7/8 and you need to be more precise with the 8i. That said the ability to control flight is what you get as part of that reward.

    With the MP20 set it feels like they've got just the right about of offset and the turf interaction is so much better than the JPX line. Night and day for me, though I have a steep AoA.

    I'm still toying with the idea of the HMB in a 3i but I didn't find that as easy to launch as the MMCs. But for a stinger it would be the perfect tool.

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    • Ping G400 9* Fujikura Speeder 661 X (+16g head weight)
    • Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 18*, True Temper Bi Matrix RXi X 
    • Adams Idea A7 22* UST V2 Hybrid X +0.5'
    • Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-7 Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
    • Mizuno MP20 MB 8-PW Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
    • Mizuno S18 50* Nippon NS PRO 1150GH Tour X +0.5'
    • Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    • Cleveland RTX 588 Rotex 2.0 60* S400 +0.5'
    • Odyssey Dual Force 990 


  • wely324wely324  90Members Posts: 90
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    Has anyone combo'd the mp20's with MMC replacing the 3 and 4 iron only. I know the MMC is only offered down to a 4 iron, but if I order the 4 and 5 iron mmc 1 degree strong, they would be the same lofts as the mp20 3 and 4 iron.

    After hitting the mp20 in a 7 iron I was quite surprised at the forgiveness and leaning towards a full set of mp20's with possibly a hmb 2 iron, or hmb 2 iron and 4/5 mmc, and then 5-pw in mb????

    I'm coming from TM RAC blades 3-pw and a callaway x-16 2 iron (~13 year old set)

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  • jetmech879jetmech879  1394Members Posts: 1,394
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    So I played 5 rounds with my full set of HMBs. After the fourth round I ordered 6-pw in the MBs. Played my first round with them today and was blown away! For some reason I have not been hitting the HMB mid and short irons solid at all since I got them. I was a little concerned that it was the shafts. But couldn’t understand how I was striping the long irons. Today just reminds me for the 100th time that I just don’t hit bigger headed irons solid! I was throwing darts with the blades all day! I would have to say these are the best feeling Mizuno I’ve hit. Also the sole grind is much better than other Mizuno’s I’ve hit. I did not want to stop playing today!

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    Taylormade M3 440 9° Diamana BF 70X
    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 16° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Mizuno MP-20 HMB 18* 2 iron Nippon Modus 105X black
    Mizuno MP-20 4-5 HMB, 6-PW MB Nippon Modus 125X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 raw 50F, 54S & 58D Nippon 125 X&S
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #7
    Titleist Pro-V1
  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 177Members Posts: 177
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    I just got a call today from the store, that my MP-20 SELs will be shipping out to the store this Thursday and should be here early next week!!!!!! Now I can't wait!!! Pure Buttery heaven cant come soon enough for me!

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

  • Clive123Clive123  14Members Posts: 14
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    It will be worth the wait , had my sel for 3 weeks now and like I said before best irons I’ve had .

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  • sethdavidsdadsethdavidsdad  1835Members Posts: 1,835
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    Ordered mine today, can’t wait. Played MP18 mb for last two years. Ordered 5-pw MB

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    Epic 10.5* Diamana D+ 70X
    TM Mini driver 14*
    Rogue 5 Wood Diamana D+ X
    Mizuno MP18's 4-5SC, 6-PW MB
    Yes Callie
    Vokeys SM6 52,56,60
    WITB Link
  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 177Members Posts: 177
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    Mizuno MP 20 SELs came in today!!!! (of course I also needed to add the new Mizuno 14 way bag). Can't wait to try them this weekend, playing this Sunday. Absolutely stunning clubs.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

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  • Clive123Clive123  14Members Posts: 14
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    Great clubs , enjoy enjoy .👍⛳️⛳️⛳️

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  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 177Members Posts: 177
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    @Clive123 said:
    Great clubs , enjoy enjoy .👍⛳️⛳️⛳️

    thank you!

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8146Members Posts: 8,146
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    Guys who game these: How punishing are they on slightly thin miss-hits? My old Miura blades murdered me on even slightly thin contact but I've found a really good deal online of SEL's and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - ProV1x


  • jetmech879jetmech879  1394Members Posts: 1,394
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    @Z1ggy16 said:
    Guys who game these: How punishing are they on slightly thin miss-hits? My old Miura blades murdered me on even slightly thin contact but I've found a really good deal online of SEL's and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger.

    The blades have a good bit of meat low in the club head. I loose distance on thin hits for sure but not as bad as some other blades I’ve played. Maybe 10 to 15 yards?

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    Taylormade M3 440 9° Diamana BF 70X
    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 16° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Mizuno MP-20 HMB 18* 2 iron Nippon Modus 105X black
    Mizuno MP-20 4-5 HMB, 6-PW MB Nippon Modus 125X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 raw 50F, 54S & 58D Nippon 125 X&S
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #7
    Titleist Pro-V1
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8146Members Posts: 8,146
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    @jetmech879 said:

    @Z1ggy16 said:
    Guys who game these: How punishing are they on slightly thin miss-hits? My old Miura blades murdered me on even slightly thin contact but I've found a really good deal online of SEL's and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger.

    The blades have a good bit of meat low in the club head. I loose distance on thin hits for sure but not as bad as some other blades I’ve played. Maybe 10 to 15 yards?

    For me it's more about the launch and losing distance. With my Miura, I could catch it a little too clean and my PW was launching like a hybrid and just wouldn't get up. My 770's don't present me that issue but I'm looking at other irons right now because they don't go thru the turf like my Miura's did. I'm fairly shallow so the thin sole with decent camber from MP-20 seems ideal.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - ProV1x


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  • jetmech879jetmech879  1394Members Posts: 1,394
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    @Z1ggy16 said:

    @jetmech879 said:

    @Z1ggy16 said:
    Guys who game these: How punishing are they on slightly thin miss-hits? My old Miura blades murdered me on even slightly thin contact but I've found a really good deal online of SEL's and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger.

    The blades have a good bit of meat low in the club head. I loose distance on thin hits for sure but not as bad as some other blades I’ve played. Maybe 10 to 15 yards?

    For me it's more about the launch and losing distance. With my Miura, I could catch it a little too clean and my PW was launching like a hybrid and just wouldn't get up. My 770's don't present me that issue but I'm looking at other irons right now because they don't go thru the turf like my Miura's did. I'm fairly shallow so the thin sole with decent camber from MP-20 seems ideal.

    Of course if you hit it too thin they will not launch like any club. But overall they are forgiving for a blade. A grove or 2 low won’t be too detrimental. If you’ve played blades in the past I highly doubt you will be disappointed with the SEL set.

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    Taylormade M3 440 9° Diamana BF 70X
    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 16° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Mizuno MP-20 HMB 18* 2 iron Nippon Modus 105X black
    Mizuno MP-20 4-5 HMB, 6-PW MB Nippon Modus 125X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 raw 50F, 54S & 58D Nippon 125 X&S
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #7
    Titleist Pro-V1
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8146Members Posts: 8,146
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    Well I'll be demo'ing the mp20 7i today head to head against my 770 7i. My knee is a little bummed right now so swing won't be my usual gamer swing but it will at least be apples to apples. I've watched tons of reviews, and the most recent Mizuno fitting on the TXG channel has me really interested.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - ProV1x


  • aquapigaquapig  301Members Posts: 301
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    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    That is what I'm thinking about doing.

    For me the HMBs flew way too high and I thought the MMCs were better feeling.

    The real shock was how easy the MBs were to hit. I went in thinking full set of MMCs, but the MBs with $taper were sweet.

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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8146Members Posts: 8,146
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    Just hit the Mp20 mb. Couldn't believe how easy they were to hit.. Honestly I thought they did better on miss hits than my P770 which I brought to hit head to head against it. They did spin up a bit more on my typical slightly thin miss hit, but I was only losing 8-9 yards which is very acceptable for such a bladed club.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - ProV1x


  • kmbeankmbean  940Members Posts: 940
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    These clubs are amazing so easy to hit. I started with 7-PW then ordered the 4/5/6. I have mine with Aerotech SFs. A++++

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  • toddmanleytoddmanley  63Members Posts: 63
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    @Z1ggy16 said:
    Just hit the Mp20 mb. Couldn't believe how easy they were to hit.. Honestly I thought they did better on miss hits than my P770 which I brought to hit head to head against it. They did spin up a bit more on my typical slightly thin miss hit, but I was only losing 8-9 yards which is very acceptable for such a bladed club.

    After playing the 33's for 15 years and then more recently the 18's, I had a lot of evidence with my own play that when I hit thin my blades I was easily this same distance short. I put a set of the HMB's in the bag a few weeks ago and now my thin shots are only 2-3 yards shorter than my flushed blades. Yesterday over the course of 4 holes the HMB's confirmed it was the right purchase for me as I thinned some shots and was surprised to find myself on the green (front green, but back pin locations).

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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8146Members Posts: 8,146
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    @toddmanley said:

    @Z1ggy16 said:
    Just hit the Mp20 mb. Couldn't believe how easy they were to hit.. Honestly I thought they did better on miss hits than my P770 which I brought to hit head to head against it. They did spin up a bit more on my typical slightly thin miss hit, but I was only losing 8-9 yards which is very acceptable for such a bladed club.

    After playing the 33's for 15 years and then more recently the 18's, I had a lot of evidence with my own play that when I hit thin my blades I was easily this same distance short. I put a set of the HMB's in the bag a few weeks ago and now my thin shots are only 2-3 yards shorter than my flushed blades. Yesterday over the course of 4 holes the HMB's confirmed it was the right purchase for me as I thinned some shots and was surprised to find myself on the green (front green, but back pin locations).

    As a lefty, the HMB is only available in 3 and 4i. I'm just glad/lucky they brought out anything for LH in a more compact form. I'm hoping the SELs sell really well and Mizuno brings out the JPX Tour head in LH also.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - ProV1x


  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 177Members Posts: 177
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    @Z1ggy16 said:

    @toddmanley said:

    @Z1ggy16 said:
    Just hit the Mp20 mb. Couldn't believe how easy they were to hit.. Honestly I thought they did better on miss hits than my P770 which I brought to hit head to head against it. They did spin up a bit more on my typical slightly thin miss hit, but I was only losing 8-9 yards which is very acceptable for such a bladed club.

    After playing the 33's for 15 years and then more recently the 18's, I had a lot of evidence with my own play that when I hit thin my blades I was easily this same distance short. I put a set of the HMB's in the bag a few weeks ago and now my thin shots are only 2-3 yards shorter than my flushed blades. Yesterday over the course of 4 holes the HMB's confirmed it was the right purchase for me as I thinned some shots and was surprised to find myself on the green (front green, but back pin locations).

    As a lefty, the HMB is only available in 3 and 4i. I'm just glad/lucky they brought out anything for LH in a more compact form. I'm hoping the SELs sell really well and Mizuno brings out the JPX Tour head in LH also.

    That's also my wish! I love my SELs but I will gladly purchase the next 919 Tours if they come in for Lefties, thats for sure. Just because I love the looks, like a cool modern blade type.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

  • av1084av1084 Gooner  1211Members Posts: 1,211
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    Finally demoed this and was very impressed!

    Quick question (that I believe I know the answer to):

    Does Mizuno only offer the $-taper in 120(stiff) and 130(x-stiff), or are you able to get it in 125 (stiff plus)?

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    Ping G400 LST 8.5 Oban Kiyoshi Gold 05
    TEE CB5 15 Oban Kiyoshi Gold 05
    Mizuno HMB 2 KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid 85X
    Mizuno MP18 Fli Hi 3 Modus 120X
    Mizuno JPX Tour 919 4-P Modus 120X
    Mizuno T7 53/60 Modus 120X
    Edel E-2
  • jetmech879jetmech879  1394Members Posts: 1,394
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    @av1084 said:
    Finally demoed this and was very impressed!

    Quick question (that I believe I know the answer to):

    Does Mizuno only offer the $-taper in 120(stiff) and 130(x-stiff), or are you able to get it in 125 (stiff plus)?

    No stiff plus. Their answer is to soft step the 130x.

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    Taylormade M3 440 9° Diamana BF 70X
    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 16° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Mizuno MP-20 HMB 18* 2 iron Nippon Modus 105X black
    Mizuno MP-20 4-5 HMB, 6-PW MB Nippon Modus 125X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 raw 50F, 54S & 58D Nippon 125 X&S
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #7
    Titleist Pro-V1
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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1528Members Posts: 1,528
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    @jetmech879 said:

    @av1084 said:
    Finally demoed this and was very impressed!

    Quick question (that I believe I know the answer to):

    Does Mizuno only offer the $-taper in 120(stiff) and 130(x-stiff), or are you able to get it in 125 (stiff plus)?

    No stiff plus. Their answer is to soft step the 130x.

    I would be more inclined to hardstep the 120 once or even twice. Reason being the swingweights were quite light on the 130s as it’s a higher balance point shaft.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Srixon z785 4-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 52F 56F 60D Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"
    Pro V1x/Snell MTB-X
    Currently - 5.6


  • toddmanleytoddmanley  63Members Posts: 63
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    @balls_deep said:

    I would be more inclined to hardstep the 120 once or even twice. Reason being the swingweights were quite light on the 130s as it’s a higher balance point shaft.

    That's what I did with my HMB's and my overlength shafts (+2").

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  • jerryojerryo  1154Members Posts: 1,154
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    What is SEL stand for?

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  • jetmech879jetmech879  1394Members Posts: 1,394
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    @jerryo said:
    What is SEL stand for?

    “special edition lefty”

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    Taylormade M3 440 9° Diamana BF 70X
    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 16° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Mizuno MP-20 HMB 18* 2 iron Nippon Modus 105X black
    Mizuno MP-20 4-5 HMB, 6-PW MB Nippon Modus 125X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 raw 50F, 54S & 58D Nippon 125 X&S
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #7
    Titleist Pro-V1
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