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  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Members  1645WRX Points: 274Posts: 1,645 Platinum Tees
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    Any low to mid handicappers ordered a blended set and thought about cut off for the three models?? Keen to hear some views.
    4,5,6 HMB & 7,8,9,PW MB?
    4 HMB, 5,6,7 MMC & 8,9,PW MB?
    4,5,6, MMC & 7,8,9,PW MB

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    • Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 18*, True Temper Bi Matrix RXi X 
    • Adams Idea A7 22* UST V2 Hybrid X +0.5'
    • Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-7 Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
    • Mizuno MP20 MB 8-PW Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
    • Mizuno S18 50* Nippon NS PRO 1150GH Tour X +0.5'
    • Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    • Cleveland RTX 588 Rotex 2.0 60* S400 +0.5'
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  • danielwkelliherdanielwkelliher Members  257WRX Points: 97Posts: 257 Greens
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    Same. I ordered 4-6 HMB and 7-PW Blade. Kept lofts stock but might weaken the HMB's by 1 degree if needed. Both felt great but MB felt fell better through Turf (tested 7 iron). I start to feel like I need help at 5 or 6 iron, so starting the HMB at 6 was a no brainer since it still looks like the MB in the bag and will provide that extra help.

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  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members  194WRX Points: 67Posts: 194 Fairways
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    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

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  • jetmech879jetmech879 Members  1544WRX Points: 272Posts: 1,544 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

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    On -, @jetmech879 said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

    For me, yes. Can’t answer why. The HMB’s were silly easy to hit, but distance was an issue.
    Tried the T100 and struggled with them which I was most surprised with.

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  • mBiden2mBiden2 #15 and counting..... Atlanta, GAMembers  1108WRX Points: 280Handicap: 10.2Posts: 1,108 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @TheInfidel said:

    Any low to mid handicappers ordered a blended set and thought about cut off for the three models?? Keen to hear some views.
    4,5,6 HMB & 7,8,9,PW MB?
    4 HMB, 5,6,7 MMC & 8,9,PW MB?
    4,5,6, MMC & 7,8,9,PW MB

    I’m looking at 4-6 HMB and 7-pw MB with either c-taper lite or $-taper lite

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  • jetmech879jetmech879 Members  1544WRX Points: 272Posts: 1,544 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @jetmech879 said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

    For me, yes. Can’t answer why. The HMB’s were silly easy to hit, but distance was an issue.
    Tried the T100 and struggled with them which I was most surprised with.

    It’s kinda funny but I’ve had better luck over the years with blades over CB irons. I just keep telling myself that I don’t need to be hitting them anymore. I may end up ordering a MMC MB combo set to add to the arsenal 🤣

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    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 15.5° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Callaway X Forged UT 18 2 iron Tensei Pro White 100TX
    Mizuno MP-20 MMC 4-PW Black KBS $taper 130X
    Vokey SM7 raw 50F, 54S & 58D Green Nippon 125 wedge
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #7
    All Iomic Stick 2.3 grips and I-Classic Mid Putter grip
    Titleist Pro-V1 High #s
  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members  194WRX Points: 67Posts: 194 Fairways
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    On -, @jetmech879 said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @jetmech879 said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

    For me, yes. Can’t answer why. The HMB’s were silly easy to hit, but distance was an issue.
    Tried the T100 and struggled with them which I was most surprised with.

    It’s kinda funny but I’ve had better luck over the years with blades over CB irons. I just keep telling myself that I don’t need to be hitting them anymore. I may end up ordering a MMC MB combo set to add to the arsenal 🤣

    These are first blades I’ve hit in a while, but my ball striking had improved a lot since I got the AP2’s.
    Was also impressed with Ping i210

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  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members  228WRX Points: 113Posts: 228 Fairways
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    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

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  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members  194WRX Points: 67Posts: 194 Fairways
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    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

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  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members  228WRX Points: 113Posts: 228 Fairways
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    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

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  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members  194WRX Points: 67Posts: 194 Fairways
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    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

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  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members  228WRX Points: 113Posts: 228 Fairways
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    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

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  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members  194WRX Points: 67Posts: 194 Fairways
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    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

    And I thought my 7 iron HMB at 195 was hot..!!

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  • mn44mn44 Members  178WRX Points: 56Handicap: 1Posts: 178 Fairways
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    On -, @TheInfidel said:

    Any low to mid handicappers ordered a blended set and thought about cut off for the three models?? Keen to hear some views.
    4,5,6 HMB & 7,8,9,PW MB?
    4 HMB, 5,6,7 MMC & 8,9,PW MB?
    4,5,6, MMC & 7,8,9,PW MB

    I play off a 0 and currently game mp5s, 4-p. I think I'm going HMB 4-7, then 8-p in MB.

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  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Members  1645WRX Points: 274Posts: 1,645 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

    Wow, what's your swing/ball speed? What do you normally hit a stock 6i?

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    • Ping G400 9* Fujikura Speeder 661 X (+16g head weight)
    • Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 18*, True Temper Bi Matrix RXi X 
    • Adams Idea A7 22* UST V2 Hybrid X +0.5'
    • Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-7 Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
    • Mizuno MP20 MB 8-PW Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
    • Mizuno S18 50* Nippon NS PRO 1150GH Tour X +0.5'
    • Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    • Cleveland RTX 588 Rotex 2.0 60* S400 +0.5'
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  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members  228WRX Points: 113Posts: 228 Fairways
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    On -, @TheInfidel said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    On -, @Mikee_j said:

    On -, @SuperBombin said:

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

    Wow, what's your swing/ball speed? What do you normally hit a stock 6i?

    For 7 iron I was averaging 98.2. But I’ve been working to tone it down to 94 range. Was hitting the 7 iron between 185-200 with the mb. I think ball speed was 134. 6 iron I was hitting 99-102 ss

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  • tsecortsecor Loading........ Members  4799WRX Points: 533Posts: 4,799 Titanium Tees
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    I wonder how the fatter soled HMB's play out of the rough, especially around the greens.....

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  • COmedicCOmedic Members  193WRX Points: 70Posts: 193 Fairways
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    Also curious on this. I’m a lefty so I’m left with the SEL option if/when I purchase. Curious how the long iron HMB’s will be good for me so I can get the ugly but useful G400 crossover out of my bag.

    On -, @tsecor said:

    I wonder how the fatter soled HMB's play out of the rough, especially around the greens.....
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  • lefty1978lefty1978 Charlotte, NCMembers  681WRX Points: 416Handicap: 8.7Posts: 681 Golden Tee
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    On -, @COmedic said:

    Also curious on this. I’m a lefty so I’m left with the SEL option if/when I purchase. Curious how the long iron HMB’s will be good for me so I can get the ugly but useful G400 crossover out of my bag.

    Good luck finding a demo head for SEL HMBs. I was told by 2 different Mizuno retailers that my best bet would be on a Mizuno demo day. You might have do a blind buy or hope a Golf Galaxy type store has one in stock.

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    On -, @lefty1978 said:

    On -, @COmedic said:

    Also curious on this. I’m a lefty so I’m left with the SEL option if/when I purchase. Curious how the long iron HMB’s will be good for me so I can get the ugly but useful G400 crossover out of my bag.

    Good luck finding a demo head for SEL HMBs. I was told by 2 different Mizuno retailers that my best bet would be on a Mizuno demo day. You might have do a blind buy or hope a Golf Galaxy type store has one in stock.

    I agree, will be a challenge. I happen to live in a smaller town with one golf shop. Fortunately they had a blade head to try out, which felt incredible with the $-taper shaft. Will make a trip to the big city (Denver) soon to see if I can have better luck. Can’t wait to get these in the bag!

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  • scottyc15scottyc15 HoustonMembers  107WRX Points: 107Handicap: +3Posts: 107 Fairways
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    I've never owned a Mizuno set, but these just might be the ones.

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  • FOOTJOY16FOOTJOY16 Members  828WRX Points: 136Posts: 828 Golden Tee
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    Has anyone received their pre-order yet? I know they sometimes release those a little early.

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    I would love to see a comparison between these and the 18s.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    I would love to see a comparison between these and the 18s.

    Coming soon I’m sure and I also look forward to a comparison. My personal (very limited) experience is that they were a huge improvement, though that could be driven by the fact I tested several shafts and found a great combo in the MP20/ $-taper.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10627WRX Points: 3,750Handicap: 8Posts: 10,627 ClubWRX
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    On -, @COmedic said:

    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    I would love to see a comparison between these and the 18s.

    Coming soon I’m sure and I also look forward to a comparison. My personal (very limited) experience is that they were a huge improvement, though that could be driven by the fact I tested several shafts and found a great combo in the MP20/ $-taper.

    I can do a bit of a comparison if I get time. I really like the $ taper as well.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • golfinguru11golfinguru11 Nor CalMembers  333WRX Points: 227Handicap: 1.8Posts: 333 Greens
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    Haven’t gotten a shipping notification still waiting. Anyone else bending the blades weak to add a bit of bounce, decrease offset and increase launch (coming from CBs)?

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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

    What was your favorite shaft of the bunch ?

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    Ping G410 LST 14.5* Fuji Ventus Black 8X
    Ping G410 17.5* Fuji Ventus Black 10X 
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    Honma TW-W4 50/54/60 Modus 125W
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