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  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Members Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Any low to mid handicappers ordered a blended set and thought about cut off for the three models?? Keen to hear some views.
    4,5,6 HMB & 7,8,9,PW MB?
    4 HMB, 5,6,7 MMC & 8,9,PW MB?
    4,5,6, MMC & 7,8,9,PW MB


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    Adams Idea CMB TT AMT S400 +0.5' 4-PW
    Mizuno S18 50* Nippon NS PRO 1150GH Tour X +0.5'
    Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    Nike Engage Raw 58* S400 +0.5'
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  • MBBGMBBG South of ChicagolandMembers Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I personally did the first option listed. 6 iron is where I start to really need a little help and I really like having narrower soles in the scoring irons.

    One of the things that appealed to me most besides the extra launch height of the HMB is the idea that the HMB and MB look similar.

    Sticking MMCs in there FOR ME would have to meet a very specific performance parameter(s) I needed but couldn’t achieve with the other two.

    If I were gonna do any MMCs I think I’d do the entire set.

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  • danielwkelliherdanielwkelliher Members Posts: 106 ✭✭✭
    edited Sep 9, 2019 3:41pm #214

    Same. I ordered 4-6 HMB and 7-PW Blade. Kept lofts stock but might weaken the HMB's by 1 degree if needed. Both felt great but MB felt fell better through Turf (tested 7 iron). I start to feel like I need help at 5 or 6 iron, so starting the HMB at 6 was a no brainer since it still looks like the MB in the bag and will provide that extra help.

    G410 LST - Diamana 60TX, Smoke Green 60 TX
    TS3 15.75 - Evenflow White 75 6.5
    919 Tours 4-PW - Project X 6.0
    RTX4 - 50/54-60 - S400 TI
    Spider X Custom and T22 NP2

  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

  • jetmech879jetmech879 Members Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mikee_j said:
    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

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  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    @jetmech879 said:

    @Mikee_j said:
    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

    For me, yes. Can’t answer why. The HMB’s were silly easy to hit, but distance was an issue.
    Tried the T100 and struggled with them which I was most surprised with.

  • mBiden2mBiden2 #15 and counting..... Atlanta, GAMembers Posts: 948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TheInfidel said:
    Any low to mid handicappers ordered a blended set and thought about cut off for the three models?? Keen to hear some views.
    4,5,6 HMB & 7,8,9,PW MB?
    4 HMB, 5,6,7 MMC & 8,9,PW MB?
    4,5,6, MMC & 7,8,9,PW MB

    I’m looking at 4-6 HMB and 7-pw MB with either c-taper lite or $-taper lite

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    TM R9 TP 3W 15* - Fujikura Motore F1 85S
    TM P790 3 & 4 - Nippon Modus3 T 105X
    TM P790 5-PW - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM MG 50* - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM Z TP 54* & 58* - Project X 6.0
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  • jetmech879jetmech879 Members Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mikee_j said:

    @jetmech879 said:

    @Mikee_j said:
    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

    For me, yes. Can’t answer why. The HMB’s were silly easy to hit, but distance was an issue.
    Tried the T100 and struggled with them which I was most surprised with.

    It’s kinda funny but I’ve had better luck over the years with blades over CB irons. I just keep telling myself that I don’t need to be hitting them anymore. I may end up ordering a MMC MB combo set to add to the arsenal 🤣

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    Taylormade M1 2017 TI 16° 3HL Kuro Kage XD 80TX
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi 18° Aldila RIP Tour 115 tour S
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC 4-PW PX 6.5
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50F, 54S & 59D Nippon 125 wedge
    Taylormade Ardmore 3 red/white 
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  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    @jetmech879 said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @jetmech879 said:

    @Mikee_j said:
    4-PW project X 6.0 ordered.
    Crazy how easy these were to hit when compared to my 716 AP2. MMC and HMB very nice too but too long for my liking.
    Now the waiting begins

    Easier to hit than the AP2s??? Maybe I should have gone with the blades over the HMBs!

    For me, yes. Can’t answer why. The HMB’s were silly easy to hit, but distance was an issue.
    Tried the T100 and struggled with them which I was most surprised with.

    It’s kinda funny but I’ve had better luck over the years with blades over CB irons. I just keep telling myself that I don’t need to be hitting them anymore. I may end up ordering a MMC MB combo set to add to the arsenal 🤣

    These are first blades I’ve hit in a while, but my ball striking had improved a lot since I got the AP2’s.
    Was also impressed with Ping i210

  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members Posts: 189 ✭✭✭

    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members Posts: 189 ✭✭✭

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members Posts: 189 ✭✭✭

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

  • Mikee_jMikee_j Members Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

    And I thought my 7 iron HMB at 195 was hot..!!

  • mn44mn44 Members Posts: 147 ✭✭✭
    edited Sep 11, 2019 5:05am #227

    @TheInfidel said:
    Any low to mid handicappers ordered a blended set and thought about cut off for the three models?? Keen to hear some views.
    4,5,6 HMB & 7,8,9,PW MB?
    4 HMB, 5,6,7 MMC & 8,9,PW MB?
    4,5,6, MMC & 7,8,9,PW MB

    I play off a 0 and currently game mp5s, 4-p. I think I'm going HMB 4-7, then 8-p in MB.

    Post edited by mn44 on
  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Members Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

    Wow, what's your swing/ball speed? What do you normally hit a stock 6i?


    Ping G400 9* Project X Hzrdus Black 6.5 (+16g head weight)
    Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 18*, True Temper Bi Matrix RXi X 
    Adams Idea A7 22* UST V2 Hybrid X +0.5'
    Adams Idea CMB TT AMT S400 +0.5' 4-PW
    Mizuno S18 50* Nippon NS PRO 1150GH Tour X +0.5'
    Nike Engage Raw 54* S400 +0.5'
    Nike Engage Raw 58* S400 +0.5'
    Odyssey Dual Force 990 

  • SuperBombinSuperBombin Members Posts: 189 ✭✭✭

    @TheInfidel said:

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:

    @Mikee_j said:

    @SuperBombin said:
    Ordered mmc in 4-6 and mb in 7-pw. Can’t wait

    What did you do with the lofts to avoid a big gap between 6 and 7?
    The waiting is the worst part!!

    I decided to bend the 6 iron 1* weak for now. I didn’t want to adjust anything in the mb. Then go from there if I need to adjust the mmc further. How about you?

    I’ve gone 4-PW in MB, but may swap out the 4 and 5 iron in the future if needed to HMB.

    Nice! I though about hmb, but I hit a 6 iron 230. Way too hot. Might get a driving iron with 3 iron in the future tho.

    Wow, what's your swing/ball speed? What do you normally hit a stock 6i?

    For 7 iron I was averaging 98.2. But I’ve been working to tone it down to 94 range. Was hitting the 7 iron between 185-200 with the mb. I think ball speed was 134. 6 iron I was hitting 99-102 ss

  • tsecortsecor Loading........ Members Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how the fatter soled HMB's play out of the rough, especially around the greens.....

  • COmedicCOmedic Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    Also curious on this. I’m a lefty so I’m left with the SEL option if/when I purchase. Curious how the long iron HMB’s will be good for me so I can get the ugly but useful G400 crossover out of my bag.

    @tsecor said:
    I wonder how the fatter soled HMB's play out of the rough, especially around the greens.....

  • lefty1978lefty1978 Charlotte, NCMembers Posts: 379 ✭✭✭✭

    @COmedic said:
    Also curious on this. I’m a lefty so I’m left with the SEL option if/when I purchase. Curious how the long iron HMB’s will be good for me so I can get the ugly but useful G400 crossover out of my bag.

    Good luck finding a demo head for SEL HMBs. I was told by 2 different Mizuno retailers that my best bet would be on a Mizuno demo day. You might have do a blind buy or hope a Golf Galaxy type store has one in stock.

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    Mizuno MP Series 52°/7° w/ DG S300
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  • COmedicCOmedic Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    @lefty1978 said:

    @COmedic said:
    Also curious on this. I’m a lefty so I’m left with the SEL option if/when I purchase. Curious how the long iron HMB’s will be good for me so I can get the ugly but useful G400 crossover out of my bag.

    Good luck finding a demo head for SEL HMBs. I was told by 2 different Mizuno retailers that my best bet would be on a Mizuno demo day. You might have do a blind buy or hope a Golf Galaxy type store has one in stock.

    I agree, will be a challenge. I happen to live in a smaller town with one golf shop. Fortunately they had a blade head to try out, which felt incredible with the $-taper shaft. Will make a trip to the big city (Denver) soon to see if I can have better luck. Can’t wait to get these in the bag!

  • scottyc15scottyc15 HoustonMembers Posts: 44 ✭✭

    I've never owned a Mizuno set, but these just might be the ones.

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    Taylormade M4 Tour 15 - Aldila Tour Green 85TX
    Srixon Z U85 2 - DG TI X100
    Srixon Z 765 4-PW - DG TI X100
    Taylormade MG 52,56,60 - DG TI S400
    Taylormade Spider Limited
  • FOOTJOY16FOOTJOY16 Members Posts: 773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has anyone received their pre-order yet? I know they sometimes release those a little early.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I would love to see a comparison between these and the 18s.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
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    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
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  • COmedicCOmedic Members Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    @QuigleyDU said:
    I would love to see a comparison between these and the 18s.

    Coming soon I’m sure and I also look forward to a comparison. My personal (very limited) experience is that they were a huge improvement, though that could be driven by the fact I tested several shafts and found a great combo in the MP20/ $-taper.

  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @COmedic said:

    @QuigleyDU said:
    I would love to see a comparison between these and the 18s.

    Coming soon I’m sure and I also look forward to a comparison. My personal (very limited) experience is that they were a huge improvement, though that could be driven by the fact I tested several shafts and found a great combo in the MP20/ $-taper.

    I can do a bit of a comparison if I get time. I really like the $ taper as well.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • golfinguru11golfinguru11 Bay AreaMembers Posts: 267 ✭✭✭✭

    Haven’t gotten a shipping notification still waiting. Anyone else bending the blades weak to add a bit of bounce, decrease offset and increase launch (coming from CBs)?

    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 10.5* - Aldila 130msi Rogue Black 60 tx 
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* - Accra TZ6 75 x
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20* - VA Raijin 84 x
    Mizuno MP-54 (4,5) MP-20 (6-PW) - Nippon Modus 125 s
    Vokey SM7 RAW 52F 56S 60D - Nippon Modus 125 wedge
    Odyssey White Hot 2 Ball 

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  • endyendy Members Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @QuigleyDU said:
    After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

    What was your favorite shaft of the bunch ?

    Srixon Z785 9.5* Fuji Ventus 7X
    Srixon F85 13.5* Atmos Black TS 8TX
    Srixon H85 19* Oban Kiyoshi Black 90X
    Srixon Z785 4-PW KBS $-Taper 130X
    Cleveland RTX-4 50/54/60 TI S400
    Toulon Garage Columbus
    Srixon Z-Star XV

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