A warning before buying a vessel bag

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3wood3wood  525WRX Points: 130Members Posts: 525 Golden Tee
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I purchased one of the new player 2.0 bags and it’s a sweet bag but the only problem is the durability. I’ve used it on a cart about 6-7 times and it already has noticeable wear and tear. This is a little aggravating as I was expecting the quality to be better than this. I wrote to vessel to let them know about my concerns. They stated the bag is meant for carrying only and a cart strap will cause this. I get that I bought a carry bag but I never would’ve bought it if I knew this would happen. I just wanted to warn other members if they had intentions to purchase this and use it on a cart.

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  • kdog25kdog25  1752WRX Points: 311Members Posts: 1,752 Platinum Tees
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    Never heard of this before personally. I’ve used several carry bags on carts with zero issues. Anything on their site or the product tags that expressly states or advises against using with a cart? Can’t say I’d know it was a concern otherwise but I guess in hindsight....

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  • thevaporzthevaporz  3278WRX Points: 406Handicap: 13Members Posts: 3,278 Titanium Tees
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    Put a extra towel between the strap and your bag.

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  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Southern Ontario, Canada 2130WRX Points: 391Handicap: 6.5Unregistered Posts: 2,130 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @SubaruWRX said:

    A white bag strapped to a cart that’s driven on a bumpy course. What did you expect?

    There is NO white bag of any quality from any manufacturer that won’t get those marks after being strapped in a cart. This isn’t a Vessel problem, it’s your unrealistic expectations.

    My white Hoofer bag has been on many a cart, including the last 3/4 times on a push cart. I have had the thing for what seems like forever (I honestly can't remember when I bought it...has to be 5-6 seasons now) and I don't have anywhere near that much rub burn. Sure she's a bit dirty but no peeling or fraying at all on mine.

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  • coach_harris1coach_harris1  1091WRX Points: 240Members Posts: 1,091 Platinum Tees
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    Man that stinks. I’d be frustrated also. Never had this happen to any of my bags. Got a new Titleist carry bag last month and it doesn’t show any signs of wear from the cart strap. My Ok state cowboys logo ping hoofer I’ve had since 2005 didn’t even look close to that and it rode on many many carts.

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    On -, @SubaruWRX said:

    A white bag strapped to a cart that’s driven on a bumpy course. What did you expect?

    There is NO white bag of any quality from any manufacturer that won’t get those marks after being strapped in a cart. This isn’t a Vessel problem, it’s your unrealistic expectations.

    You’d expect your golf bag to get tears in it after a few rds? If it was black I’d be upset too. Never had this happen to a bag before. It’s not the bag being white it’s a quality problem. I guess you have low expectations

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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8810WRX Points: 2,486Members Posts: 8,810 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @phatchrisrules said:

    On -, @SubaruWRX said:

    A white bag strapped to a cart that’s driven on a bumpy course. What did you expect?

    There is NO white bag of any quality from any manufacturer that won’t get those marks after being strapped in a cart. This isn’t a Vessel problem, it’s your unrealistic expectations.

    My white Hoofer bag has been on many a cart, including the last 3/4 times on a push cart. I have had the thing for what seems like forever (I honestly can't remember when I bought it...has to be 5-6 seasons now) and I don't have anywhere near that much rub burn. Sure she's a bit dirty but no peeling or fraying at all on mine.

    That's because it's not a fancy pants vessel bag lol.

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  • Olde MaroonOlde Maroon Playing your old gear  529WRX Points: 205Handicap: PoorMembers Posts: 529 Golden Tee
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    Looks like a leather vs. Nylon issue. I've never used a leather bag (much less a white one), but this doesn't surprise me that much. Do staff bags get this when using cart straps?

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    On -, @Olde Maroon said:

    Looks like a leather vs. Nylon issue. I've never used a leather bag (much less a white one), but this doesn't surprise me that much. Do staff bags get this when using cart straps?

    I had my Titleist staff bag for almost a year and it showed very light wear where the cart straps were and where it sat in my push cart.

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  • AzSuperHack76AzSuperHack76  1666WRX Points: 235ClubWRX Posts: 1,666 ClubWRX
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    It’s a white LEATHER bag. I would personally never buy one due to the wear I’d expect to show with it in a cart.

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    On -, @AzSuperHack76 said:

    It’s a white LEATHER bag. I would personally never buy one due to the wear I’d expect to show with it in a cart.

    Microsuede Backed Synthetic Leather.. that's not even close to actual leather. Expecting that to stand up to rubbing is not realistic. However, I'd never have bought that bag.

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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio  6185WRX Points: 975Handicap: 8Members Posts: 6,185 Titanium Tees
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    Every single time I see a white bag that I think looks sharp, I think to myself "that'll look like crap after a couple rounds".

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    On -, @AzSuperHack76 said:

    It’s a white LEATHER bag. I would personally never buy one due to the wear I’d expect to show with it in a cart.

    Except that it's not leather. It's synthetic. I would expect that wear pattern if I were using a potato peeler on it, but not from a cart strap after a few rounds.

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    Looks like a cheap low quality bag..... I guess you live and learn. I used to buy Ogio bags until I started having quality issues with zippers then I bought a Sun Mountain 4-5 and I was hooked. The C-130 Cart Bag is fantastic as well.

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    Sorry to the OP, I'd be a little bummed as well. Being a fairly new Vessel owner, I'll be sure to watch for this when I ride! However, my experience with their customer service was top notch.

    I received a Vessel Lite Stand Bag for Christmas this year. I walk a couple times a week, and the bag has been great. One day a couple weeks back I noticed one of the little rubber feet on the stand legs was missing. No clue when this happened. I emailed customer service asking them how I would go about getting a replacement foot, and they responded (quickly I might add) asking for my address. They shipped me two feet, and I received them within 2 days of asking. I'm located in Canada as well, so quite speedy IMO.

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    Thats pretty ****

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  • 3wood3wood  525WRX Points: 130Members Posts: 525 Golden Tee
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    So Eric offered me 30% off a cart bag lol. Lesson learned, I’ll be switching back to ping or titleist for my next bag.

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    On -, @3wood said:

    So Eric offered me 30% off a cart bag lol. Lesson learned, I’ll be switching back to ping or titleist for my next bag.

    Tell Eric 50 and it's a deal.

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  • dubogeydubogey  534WRX Points: 91Members Posts: 534 Golden Tee
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    That’s some **** trash. I think some discoloration or “stains” would be ok. The **** strap is wearing right into the bad. That’s not ok. Guess I’ll be going with a SL1

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    On -, @jkmacguru said:

    I think OP is getting burned. If it’s only been a could rounds with a pretty expensive bag Vessel should offer a one time replacement with a light slap on the hand saying “please only walk with this”. If they do not include that kind of language to begin with, then that first one is on them.

    The bigger issue for me is that this material flakes. It reminds me of the older head covers that would flake and make a huge mess all over after a while. If the product responds like this to cart straps, it is not a good fit. Vessel should have bit the bullet and placed it..
    Best Bag companies to work with: Sun Mountain, Ping, Jones, and McKenzie Walkers.

    Yep. Obviously they know they have a problem but aren’t concerned with correcting it. Glad I learned not to use my carry bag on a cart lol

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  • AG12AG12  1790WRX Points: 917Handicap: 10Members Posts: 1,790 Platinum Tees
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    Well. I was looking at the Vessel's but not anymore. On to Taylormade or Titleist

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  • Bad9Bad9  4688WRX Points: 552Handicap: 9.2Members Posts: 4,688 Titanium Tees
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    There is no way the material should wearing through after 6-7 times strapped to a cart whether it was designed for walking or not. I have a Ping 4 Series that has been strapped onto a cart dozens of times with no appreciable wear much less material flaking off. Vessel is not a company I would ever purchase anything from based on their response to the OP.

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    Mine did the exact same thing on one of the pockets. It was the 4th time I used the bag. Needless to say I didn't even bother to email them about it. I was disappointed in the way it did it though and what I paid for the bag. I wish I would've purchased the black one instead.

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    Seems like an overpriced product and they dont stand behind the workmanship.

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  • coach_harris1coach_harris1  1091WRX Points: 240Members Posts: 1,091 Platinum Tees
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    Ping would take care of this and or it would never happen to a hoofer. You should get phenomenal customer service for the price of these bags. Overpriced pieces of junk in my opinion.

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    And does this not fall under “defect of material”? from their warranty?

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    On -, @coach_harris1 said:

    And does this not fall under “defect of material”? from their warranty?

    No, Eric told me it was normal “wear and tear”.

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    On -, @3wood said:

    On -, @coach_harris1 said:

    And does this not fall under “defect of material”? from their warranty?

    No, Eric told me it was normal “wear and tear”.

    Thats rediculous. I'd be pissed too

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