Hot Metal Pros: Who's got 'em?

RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
edited Aug 3, 2019 2:58pm in Equipment #1

Looking for feedback on these from users.
Any trouble with holding greens? Unusual "jumpers" off the face like some cup face irons?
I've only been able to hit them in store, but I'm really impressed with feel for a non-forged iron. Mizuno seems to be on to something with the Chromoly metal and their sound tuning.
Also love the no up charge for Recoil 95 or PXLZ Tour Graphite, trying to decide between those two, but again, can't see flight outdoors. I've played the Recoil 95 in the past and got on well with it.
I'm never convinced the spin rates are accurate with the balls/monitors indoors, so curious as to real world observations.
Me: 58yo, 9-10 handicap, avg 7 iron =150.
(BTW MODS: When I use the search function all that I get is BST ads......! )

Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS or Xhot 15* OG Blueboard 73s
G 410 19* Tour 85 R
Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
RTX4 54/10 and 58/8 mid grinds
Bettinardi BB1/ Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)
Some kind of 3 or 4 piece urethane covered soft feeling ball

Comments

  • gdb99gdb99 Members Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m 57, average 7 iron for my old 712 AP1’s is 150ish, 4 handicap. Not a high spin iron player.
    I just picked up a set of the Pro’s with Project X Tour graphite regular flex. I have played 36 holes with them so far.
    I’m still not sold on them. I like the high flight and the feel. Beautiful.
    But, I have had a few shots out of the rough with partial wedges that would hit the front of the green and roll to the back. Full shots have not been as much of a problem, probably because they fly much higher than I’m used to.
    I also experimented with a set of blades this year. Shots flew high, and I was able to stop shots much more easily.
    I’m very confused as to what I want to play!
    I also can not hit my regular draw shot with these. They just fly straight.
    I had a set of irons with the Recoil 95’s in them, and I like the feel of the Project X Tour better.

    Cobra King LTD, Diamana Redboard stiff flex
    Titleist 917F 16.5, Diamana Tensei Blue regular flex
    Cleveland DST 3 hybrid, Diamana Redboard regular flex 
    Titleist AP1, 5-PW, Dynalite XP R300
    Vokey SM7 52F
    Vokey SM7 56M
    Cleveland 588RTG 60
    Odyssey #2
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Love my HMP’s. They are solid sticks!

    Taylormade M6 driver MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5M H17 Jet Setter 
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • danielwkelliherdanielwkelliher Members Posts: 88 ✭✭✭

    I've got them in 4/5 iron, bent 2 degress weak to pair with my 919 Tours. Love these. Easy to hit and way more forgiving than keeping the Tours down to 4 iron.

    G410 LST - Diamana 60TX, Smoke Green 60 TX
    TS3 15.75 - Evenflow White 75 6.5
    919 Tours 4-PW - Project X 6.0
    RTX4 - 50/54-60 - S400 TI
    Spider X Custom and T22 NP2

  • puttmasterputtmaster Members Posts: 80 ✭✭✭
    edited Aug 3, 2019 8:40pm #6

    I have six rounds in with a new set of HMPs with C-Taper Lite S. After struggling the first two rounds to adjust to the different specs and lighter shaft, I’m now dialed in with these clubs. Dispersion and distance is point and shoot. No weird fliers. Flying them pin-high with regularity. Zero problem holding greens. Well-struck shots land and stop (Pro V1-X.) And, I’m hitting them flush to the point where they feel as soft as my AP2s (KBS Tour S) ever did. Really happy with my choice (but also eager to see the entire MP-20 line).
    6.7 hcp

  • K.ipK.ip Members Posts: 71 ✭✭

    What shafts are most of you playing?
    Also did anyone try the HMP vs forged?

  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 3, 2019 9:09pm #8

    @K.ip said:
    What shafts are most of you playing?
    Also did anyone try the HMP vs forged?

    I tried the Forged, but the PX LZ 5.5 steel didn't really work for me and made my elbow both hurt, and I found them to be a bit clicky sounding, but that's just me.
    The Hot Metal Pros felt/sounded better to me.

    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS or Xhot 15* OG Blueboard 73s
    G 410 19* Tour 85 R
    Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
    RTX4 54/10 and 58/8 mid grinds
    Bettinardi BB1/ Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)
    Some kind of 3 or 4 piece urethane covered soft feeling ball
  • tobybeartobybear Members, Media Staffer Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    5 handicap playing a full 4-PW set - love everything about them. NIce and HIgh, good through the turf. Love the long irons

  • rondre3000rondre3000 Members Posts: 287 ✭✭✭✭

    Played the 919F's over the last 6-8 months and enjoyed them a lot. Just picked up a set of HMP's on a whim and they feel as good, if not better than the forged model which was a bit of a surprise. I will play the HMP's more often because even at a stronger loft I am seeing noticeably higher ball flight, 4-6yds longer carry and slightly more forgiveness. The 919F's will go in the back up bag. Right now the only thing my 919F's had over the HMP's was the satin finish. It's dang near bullet proof and after over half a year my clubs looked mint.

  • hwwonghwwong Members Posts: 972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 4, 2019 1:00pm #11

    Got them a few weeks ago and have played 27 with them now. They go VERY straight. Feel is decent. Not quite good and certainly not MP good, but decent enough. The sound is great though, ball sounds like it's rocketing off the face. I haven't gotten any ridiculous fliers and complete mishits are only flying 8-10 yds short.

    I have 2 gripes: one is the turf interaction. They don't cut through like player's cavities/blades, so some shot's I'll get a weird bounce out of the ground. And the second is I can see the back of the 4 iron. Easy to get over that, but still a little bit of a negative.

    They spin enough for me. In my fitting i was getting 4800-5000 with a 6 iron. I'm playing c-tapers. But greens around me are soft, so no issues thus far holding greens.

    Taylormade M3 10.5 - Diamana Tensei Blue Pro 60 TX
    Callaway Rogue SZ 15 - Diamana Tensei White Pro 70 TX
    Titleist TS2 18 - Diamana DF 80 TX
    Mizuno Hot Metal Pro 4-PW - C-Taper 130 X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50,55,60 - C-Taper 125 S+
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2
    Pro V1X

  • krutoikrutoi Members Posts: 524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the turf interaction and feel. They fly high, so the spin is enough for me. I play them in c-taper light.

    Cobra F8 Blue Volition Driver, M4 3hl wood, Epic 3 Hybrid, Srixon u85 5 and 6 Utility Irons, Apex Pro 2019 6-Pw irons, Wilson 8802 putter, Mizuno S18 50 degree wedge, 54 RTX Cleveland Wedge, SM 7 D grind Vokey wedge
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone playing them with PXLZ Tour Graphite 6.0?

    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS or Xhot 15* OG Blueboard 73s
    G 410 19* Tour 85 R
    Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
    RTX4 54/10 and 58/8 mid grinds
    Bettinardi BB1/ Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)
    Some kind of 3 or 4 piece urethane covered soft feeling ball
  • knightd_2001knightd_2001 Members Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭

    I have been looking at 919 HMP and the APEX pro 19. I was a long time player of Mizuno player but have been playing Callaway the last few years. I spent several hours at PGA store hitting irons and the HMP was the best but didn't hit the Apex that day and wanted to know if anyone could compare.
    Thanks.

  • MyherobobhopeMyherobobhope hey there, blimpy boy. Flying through the sky so fancy free. Members Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    My set purchase was interrupted by unemployment... I just have the pitching wedge, but it’s nice.

    Still planning on completing the set after a summer with just one club. Playing the dynamic gold x120 I believe.

    Current Bag (Rebuilding as of 5/6/19)
    Driver: Adams Fast 12 LS with Matrix Black Tie (to be replaced)
    3W: Adams Fast 12 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    Hybrid: Bridgestone j40 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    4-9: Taylor Made Oversize (to be replaced)
    PW: Mizuon HMP with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    50 degree Vokey with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    56 and 60 degree Cleveland Wedges (to be replaced)
    Odyssey Tank #7 (only club I'm keeping this season)

  • awhit1187awhit1187 Members Posts: 5 ✭✭

    @knightd_2001 said:
    I have been looking at 919 HMP and the APEX pro 19. I was a long time player of Mizuno player but have been playing Callaway the last few years. I spent several hours at PGA store hitting irons and the HMP was the best but didn't hit the Apex that day and wanted to know if anyone could compare.
    Thanks.

    I just got the HMP and love them. I unfortunately can’t compare to the apex pro but I would think the apex (not the pro) would be a more comparable iron to the HMP. I hit the apex when being fit and it was a solid iron. I just hit the HMP better. The HMP is quite forgiving (especially on hits low on the face which is my typical miss) and I would think it would be a bit more forgiving than the Apex Pro (but that is just speculation).

  • knightd_2001knightd_2001 Members Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. I have hit the regular Apex. A friend of mine has a set. Solid but felt a little too chunky. What shaft are you playing in the HMP? While trying them I hit the C-Taper really well with HMP.

  • awhit1187awhit1187 Members Posts: 5 ✭✭

    @knightd_2001 said:
    Thanks. I have hit the regular Apex. A friend of mine has a set. Solid but felt a little too chunky. What shaft are you playing in the HMP? While trying them I hit the C-Taper really well with HMP.

    I am playing the kbs tour x stiff. I tried the C-Taper and for whatever reason didn’t get along with them, but know that a lot of folks do like that shaft quite a bit. I personally preferred the look of the HMP over the regular Apex (Apex looks a bit stumpy for my taste) at address. I was between the kbs and project x on shafts. The dispersion of the kbs was better for me.

  • grantc79grantc79 New OrleansMembers Posts: 583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Had them, sold them, wish I would have kept them.

    Ping G410 Plus
    Ping G410 2 and 3 hybrid
    Mizuno Hot Metal Pro 4-GW
    Vokey SM6 56 and 60
  • gdb99gdb99 Members Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 12, 2019 4:12pm #20

    I played 18 with mine yesterday.
    I am not playing very well right now, but a few shots really stood out to me, and is the reason I will be selling them.
    145 out from the flag, into a breeze, from the rough. Green is shallow, bunker in front and really thick rough long. I hit a high 7 iron that landed on the green. I paced off 17 steps where it stopped in the rough. My AP1’s would have stopped.
    I had 145 on the next hole from middle of fairway. Hit 8 iron to the middle of the green and the ball stopped about 12' from the pitch mark.
    Maybe I don’t have the swing speed for these irons to create enough spin. But at my course there are quite a few holes that have front bunkers and the rough around the greens is nasty.

    Post edited by gdb99 on
    Cobra King LTD, Diamana Redboard stiff flex
    Titleist 917F 16.5, Diamana Tensei Blue regular flex
    Cleveland DST 3 hybrid, Diamana Redboard regular flex 
    Titleist AP1, 5-PW, Dynalite XP R300
    Vokey SM7 52F
    Vokey SM7 56M
    Cleveland 588RTG 60
    Odyssey #2
  • English13English13 Golf Addict Members Posts: 215 ✭✭✭
    edited Aug 12, 2019 2:42pm #21

    Just ordered a set of these with the Recoil graphite... coming from the Apex CF19 with Modus 105. I am having to go back to graphite owing to very bad elbow and wrist pain, which has only started since i made the switch away from graphite 6 months ago. These are super good value in the UK, £900 with any shaft and any grip combo you want... I think the Hot Metal Pro are really good looking and although the new P790 will be out soon you will probably here be looking at £1300 minimum for graphite. So the Hot Metal Pro will be £400 cheaper and so far in testing just as good as the Apex or P790.... has anyone one tested these against the Apex CF19 or P790 and has a firm opinion one way or another.....
    Thanks for your thoughts.....

  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @gdb99 said:
    I played 18 with mine yesterday.
    I am not playing very well right now, but a few shots really stood out to me, and is the reason I will be selling them.
    145 out from the flag, into a breeze, from the rough. Green is shallow, bunker in front and really thick rough long. I hit a high 7 iron that landed on the green. I paced off 17 steps where it stopped in the rough. My AP1’s would have stopped.
    I had 145 on the next hole from middle of fairway. Hit 8 iron to the middle of the green and the ball stopped about 12' from the pitch mark.
    Maybe I don’t have the swing speed for these irons to create enough spin. But at my course there are quite a few holes that have front bunkers and the rough around the greens is nasty.

    Sounds like you misread the lie in the rough to me. The extra club you took and flier lie was your undoing. Not sure what you SS is but 12’ of roll out with an 8i isn’t going to be fixed by switching to a different OEM’s 8i. My 8i is my 155 yard stock club. My ball off 8i comes to rest on the hardest greens within 18” if the green is flat. I’m in the Pacific North-Wet and play out of some heavy juicy rough. My HMP 7i thru PW play great wherever the ball comes to rest.

    Taylormade M6 driver MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5M H17 Jet Setter 
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • gdb99gdb99 Members Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @noodle3872 said:

    @gdb99 said:
    I played 18 with mine yesterday.
    I am not playing very well right now, but a few shots really stood out to me, and is the reason I will be selling them.
    145 out from the flag, into a breeze, from the rough. Green is shallow, bunker in front and really thick rough long. I hit a high 7 iron that landed on the green. I paced off 17 steps where it stopped in the rough. My AP1’s would have stopped.
    I had 145 on the next hole from middle of fairway. Hit 8 iron to the middle of the green and the ball stopped about 12' from the pitch mark.
    Maybe I don’t have the swing speed for these irons to create enough spin. But at my course there are quite a few holes that have front bunkers and the rough around the greens is nasty.

    Sounds like you misread the lie in the rough to me. The extra club you took and flier lie was your undoing. Not sure what you SS is but 12’ of roll out with an 8i isn’t going to be fixed by switching to a different OEM’s 8i. My 8i is my 155 yard stock club. My ball off 8i comes to rest on the hardest greens within 18” if the green is flat. I’m in the Pacific North-Wet and play out of some heavy juicy rough. My HMP 7i thru PW play great wherever the ball comes to rest.

    It was either take enough club to hit the green, or take a risk burying it in the front bunker. I have been playing this course for 30 years.
    My point was that with my other 2 sets of irons, my golf ball stops a lot faster. I have never had this much rollout with some of the shots I have hit in the 3 rounds I’ve played them. Especially out of our rough.
    Maybe guys that are not having problems stopping the ball have higher swing speeds than I do, and can hit it higher with more spin. I’m only swinging a 7 iron around mid 70’s.
    And as far as another OEM’s club stopping quicker, I have no problem stopping 5 irons on our greens with my MP-4’s. I’m guessing they are spinning more? I’m not a high spin iron player to start with.

    Cobra King LTD, Diamana Redboard stiff flex
    Titleist 917F 16.5, Diamana Tensei Blue regular flex
    Cleveland DST 3 hybrid, Diamana Redboard regular flex 
    Titleist AP1, 5-PW, Dynalite XP R300
    Vokey SM7 52F
    Vokey SM7 56M
    Cleveland 588RTG 60
    Odyssey #2
  • tlehmanntlehmann Members Posts: 66 ✭✭

    HMP "4 iron" with Nippon 120 flies only about 7 yards shorter than my Titleist 818 H2 19*. Absolute rocket launcher. Definitely worth adding in the long irons

    Titleist TS2 9.5* / Project X EvenFlow White T1100 65X
    Taylormade SLDR 14* / Fujikura Motore Tour Spec 8.3X
    Titleist 818H2 19* / Fujikura Atmos Black 9X
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 4 Iron / Nippon Modus 120X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Tour 4-PW / Nippon Modus 120X
    Titleist SM5 52.08F* / KBS Tour 610 S+
    Titleist SM7 56.08M* / KBS Tour 610 S+
    Titleist SM7 60.04L* / KBS Tour 610 S+
    Taylormade Spider X
    Yes! Dawn
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 14, 2019 1:19am #25

    Well, after extensive testing with several shafts against my Forged Tec Blacks, The HMP’s are off my interest list.
    Good feel, but too low spin at around 5400 w/ 7 iron. No stopping them for me.
    My 7 is consistently around 6200. No problem stopping the ball within 10-12 ft of where it lands.

    Post edited by RainShadow on
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS or Xhot 15* OG Blueboard 73s
    G 410 19* Tour 85 R
    Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
    RTX4 54/10 and 58/8 mid grinds
    Bettinardi BB1/ Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)
    Some kind of 3 or 4 piece urethane covered soft feeling ball
  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 New EnglandMembers Posts: 865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 14, 2019 9:16pm #26

    @RainShadow said:
    Well, after extensive testing with several shafts against my Forged Tec Blacks, The HMP’s are off my interest list.
    Good feel, but too low spin at around 5400 w/ 7 iron. No stopping them for me.
    My 7 is consistently around 6200. No problem stopping the ball within 10-12 ft of where it lands.

    I spent an hour yesterday hitting G410 vs. HM vs. HMP. I found the HMP spun the lowest of the bunch (surprisingly) and I started hitting the G410 vs HM. Spun the latter 2 8-irons right at around 8,000rpms while HMP was always ~400rpms less oddly enough.

    EDIT: I should note the HMP had C-Taper Lite while the others had Modus 105 and AWT shafts which could definitely have that small effect.

    Post edited by tgoodspe1991 on
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    time rewarding and maddening – and it is without a doubt the greatest game mankind has ever invented."
    - Arnold Palmer
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @RainShadow said:
    Well, after extensive testing with several shafts against my Forged Tec Blacks, The HMP’s are off my interest list.
    Good feel, but too low spin at around 5400 w/ 7 iron. No stopping them for me.
    My 7 is consistently around 6200. No problem stopping the ball within 10-12 ft of where it lands.

    What were your peak height and descent angle for the irons you tested? 6200 rpm 7i stops in 10-12 feet?

    Taylormade M6 driver MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5M H17 Jet Setter 
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • RainShadowRainShadow Tucson AZ (for now)Members Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 15, 2019 3:02pm #28

    @noodle3872 said:

    @RainShadow said:
    Well, after extensive testing with several shafts against my Forged Tec Blacks, The HMP’s are off my interest list.
    Good feel, but too low spin at around 5400 w/ 7 iron. No stopping them for me.
    My 7 is consistently around 6200. No problem stopping the ball within 10-12 ft of where it lands.

    What were your peak height and descent angle for the irons you tested? 6200 rpm 7i stops in 10-12 feet?

    Don't remember the height, but angle of decent was 44-46*. My 7iron stops on the monitor with 5-7 yard, but real life is 10-12 feet, 15 max on all but the firmest of greens.
    HMP descent was 40-42. Same shaft as my Cobras, and also trying Recoil 95F4 and PXLZ Tour Graphite 6.0.

    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75 6.0
    Rogue 17* Atmos Blue TS or Xhot 15* OG Blueboard 73s
    G 410 19* Tour 85 R
    Apex  23 & 26 Kuro Kage S
    Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s 
    RTX4 54/10 and 58/8 mid grinds
    Bettinardi BB1/ Toulon Madison H1 neck (L)
    Some kind of 3 or 4 piece urethane covered soft feeling ball
  • SizzFractorSizzFractor So. CalMembers Posts: 15 ✭✭

    I tried these at a fitting once and oddly enough, I thought they were the best Feeling clubs I tried in the group against some big time clubs but surprisingly the numbers were the worst of the group. Im not sure how to reconcile that but as much as I wanted to like them they just didnt perform (for me)

    PXG 0811X Gen2 9* / Aldila Rouge Silver 130 MSI 70s
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 5 Wood / Oban Revenge 8S
    PXG 0341 22* Hybrid / Veylix Rome 988s WildEye
    Callaway Apex 5-PW / Catalyst 100 6.0
    Miura 51* / 55* / DG 115
    Vega VW-08 60* Shimada
    Bettinardi Custom BB0 Long Neck / EVNROLL ER2CS - STABILITY SHAFT

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