Henrik Stenson sits out of playoffs....

Titleist99Titleist99 Members Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭

Stenson chose to sit out of the playoffs, which is his prerogative. These golfers are independent contractors and if any other golfer feels that the new schedule is creating a hardship on them and their schedule they also have the option to sit out as well. Instead of whining about needing rest and not being able to peak for the Majors...Every other sport has playoffs....Why not Golf? I think that he wanted to rest up ….I'm not sure, If this is true, do you agree with his decision?

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  • Aaronwilson_95Aaronwilson_95 Members Posts: 883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    85 in the fedex race and likely eliminated after this week anyways. That plus bring 24 in race to Dubai seems like a no brained. Throw in off time an appearance fee in his home country and it’s almost like he can’t lose. Plus he’ll still get his fedexcup bonus money

  • Titleist99Titleist99 Members Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    The playoffs are a contrivance. "Let's keep the season going to bring in more views."
    Millionaires playing for millions - for me, not particularly riveting. No one is playing for a major, or a tournament win (per se), or history. The eventual goal is simply a money position. I'll watch because I want to see the standard of play, but what they are playing for is (for me) completely irrelevant.

    Well, the Masters started with it's first tournament. The PGA Tour is trying to build an historic tradition....but some is fighting it all the way....LOL!

  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 20,089 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Titleist99 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    The playoffs are a contrivance. "Let's keep the season going to bring in more views."
    Millionaires playing for millions - for me, not particularly riveting. No one is playing for a major, or a tournament win (per se), or history. The eventual goal is simply a money position. I'll watch because I want to see the standard of play, but what they are playing for is (for me) completely irrelevant.

    Well, the Masters started with it's first tournament. The PGA Tour is trying to build an historic tradition....but some is fighting it all the way....LOL!

    They had a historic tradition before this - it was called the end of the major championship season, followed by the lesser known (and less historic) Tour Championship. They lost TV viewing about at the point that "silly season" (as it used to be called) rolled around, so they extended the season and baited top players into extending their schedules by hanging a lump of cash in front of them.

    Sorry....jaded.

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  • tideridertiderider Members Posts: 2,197 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Couldn’t replace his wedge ...

  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    The playoffs in golf doesn't really mean you are the "champion" for the year like in other sports. The four most important winners have already been determined.

    I also think the playoffs here is too random. There's too many points awarded to whomever gets hot in this 3 tournament (was 4 tournament) stretch. If you want to argue its like the NCAA basketball, OK maybe. But most other sports the best teams are usually playing late too.

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  • Titleist99Titleist99 Members Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @Titleist99 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    The playoffs are a contrivance. "Let's keep the season going to bring in more views."
    Millionaires playing for millions - for me, not particularly riveting. No one is playing for a major, or a tournament win (per se), or history. The eventual goal is simply a money position. I'll watch because I want to see the standard of play, but what they are playing for is (for me) completely irrelevant.

    Well, the Masters started with it's first tournament. The PGA Tour is trying to build an historic tradition....but some is fighting it all the way....LOL!

    They had a historic tradition before this - it was called the end of the major championship season, followed by the lesser known (and less historic) Tour Championship. They lost TV viewing about at the point that "silly season" (as it used to be called) rolled around, so they extended the season and baited top players into extending their schedules by hanging a lump of cash in front of them.

    Sorry....jaded.

    I never watched the silly season shenanigans …..Playoffs and wraparound is much better in my opinion. To each his own.

  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 20,089 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Titleist99 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @Titleist99 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    The playoffs are a contrivance. "Let's keep the season going to bring in more views."
    Millionaires playing for millions - for me, not particularly riveting. No one is playing for a major, or a tournament win (per se), or history. The eventual goal is simply a money position. I'll watch because I want to see the standard of play, but what they are playing for is (for me) completely irrelevant.

    Well, the Masters started with it's first tournament. The PGA Tour is trying to build an historic tradition....but some is fighting it all the way....LOL!

    They had a historic tradition before this - it was called the end of the major championship season, followed by the lesser known (and less historic) Tour Championship. They lost TV viewing about at the point that "silly season" (as it used to be called) rolled around, so they extended the season and baited top players into extending their schedules by hanging a lump of cash in front of them.

    Sorry....jaded.

    I never watched the silly season shenanigans …..Playoffs and wraparound is much better in my opinion. To each his own.

    I don't necessarily disagree. I would rather watch actual pro events than hack celebs playing scrambles with a tour pro thrown in. I just don't like the spirit of intention.

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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,283 ClubWRX

    Good for him. Will be supporting Scandinavian Invitational in a couple of weeks and he’s had some nagging injuries last couple of years. Good for Euro Tour and he can do as he likes.

  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Part of me is with the cynical brigade in thinking that the number one reason he is doing it is because, as things stood, the chances of him making it to next week never mind the Tour Championship were pretty slim given his position in the rankings. The other part of me thinks that the money on offer to the players these days is so great that they don't really need to chase for it as much as they once would have wanted or needed to and if that's the case, then why not head home, still earn some money and not have to worry about the grind quite as much.

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  • TheInfidelTheInfidel Gotta let the Big Dog eat.... Members Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 8, 2019 9:02am #12

    Some good discussions here on the whys and rationale behind players personal schedules, injuries and personal commitments aside I think it'll take more than one season to see how it beds in with players and what their usual rhythm becomes.

    The main takeaway for me is that Cash is King and they don't have to chase it as hard as they used to. There's mountains of green backs up for grabs all the time. The first trigger of this for me was guys like Brooks, Fleetwood, Reed and others going equipment free agent.

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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 8, 2019 9:36am #13

    Look like he's too far down the FedEx list to be a serious contender, and there's an event in Sweden that conflicts with the FedEx finals, anyway. That's an invitational, so he's probably looking as a pretty significant appearance fee.

  • JRSJRS Members Posts: 981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i'd live some ACTUAL silly season events. like the "7 iron only matchplay championship".

  • oz dee ceeoz dee cee Members Posts: 505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t mind the idea of a playoff series. You need something to bring the year to an end. I’m not sure they’ve got it right but it can be interesting.

    I think we over think things. It’s three more tournaments with the best players in the world. What’s not to like?

  • StrömsborgStrömsborg StockholmMembers Posts: 533 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess his family wants a piece of the Swedish summer and to meet relatives etc. Now is the time. We have about 8 weeks of nice weather per year in Sweden and it's only a couple of them left.

    Hey chopper, what are you hitting there?

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  • Scotty1140Scotty1140 Members Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @oz dee cee said:
    I don’t mind the idea of a playoff series. You need something to bring the year to an end. I’m not sure they’ve got it right but it can be interesting.

    I think we over think things. It’s three more tournaments with the best players in the world. What’s not to like?

    +1

  • MMB1500MMB1500 Members Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 8, 2019 11:15am #18

    The "playoffs" are a contrived joke. Can't blame him for wanting to skip it and spend some time with his family, especially as he's no longer competitive at the top end.

  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,633 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the silly season. Isn’t it ? I mean we’ve got a handicapped event coming up.

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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Makes me think he could be going through some issues at home?

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    @MadGolfer76 said:
    The playoffs are a contrivance. "Let's keep the season going to bring in more views."
    Millionaires playing for millions - for me, not particularly riveting. No one is playing for a major, or a tournament win (per se), or history. The eventual goal is simply a money position. I'll watch because I want to see the standard of play, but what they are playing for is (for me) completely irrelevant.

    Actually more interested in this than usual. Other than masters the other 3 majors were uninteresting, especially PGA and British. I feel a need to witness more high stakes golf this year. And don't think theae guys dont care....privately I bet many would prefer the $10 million over one major.

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  • Soloman1Soloman1 Members Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 8, 2019 1:29pm #22

    @Ferguson: Makes me think he was abducted by aliens and recovering from that trauma?
    Or, makes me think the only issue is you pulling that tabloid-style nonsense out of your butt?

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  • the bishopthe bishop Members Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    He's already won the FedEX cup once. Unlike majors where you want to win as many as possible, to me the FedEX cup is a little like Mt. Everest. Once you've climbed it once there's not much point in doing it again. But it's a nice feather in the career cap. As for the $$ it's a lot to be sure but I think he'll be able to meet his expenses for the forseeable future. Sounds like he's got his priorities in order.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ferguson said:
    Makes me think he could be going through some issues at home?

    always your go too.

    As far as the play offs go, they should move one of the majors to be one of the 4 events.

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  • FergusonFerguson Members Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @QuigleyDU said:

    @Ferguson said:
    Makes me think he could be going through some issues at home?

    always your go too.

    As far as the play offs go, they should move one of the majors to be one of the 4 events.

    Until I hear otherwise, I will labor through the speculation of others.

  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Guys who don’t need the money or owgr points never surprise me when they skip a playoff event or all of them.

    Good for Henrik to take a break and get ready to finish out the euro tour schedule

  • Titleist99Titleist99 Members Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭

    @agolf1 said:
    The playoffs in golf doesn't really mean you are the "champion" for the year like in other sports. The four most important winners have already been determined.

    I also think the playoffs here is too random. There's too many points awarded to whomever gets hot in this 3 tournament (was 4 tournament) stretch. If you want to argue its like the NCAA basketball, OK maybe. But most other sports the best teams are usually playing late too.

    College Basketball) HAVE TOURNAMENTS WITH A TOURNAMENT ((Baseball)....Pennant champion ,World Series (Football)....division Champ, Super bowl (College football).....Many Bowl games ( Basketball)...….conference champs, finals champ. My point is all sports have contrived season events because it is about entertainment and money$$$,

  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Titleist99 said:

    @agolf1 said:
    The playoffs in golf doesn't really mean you are the "champion" for the year like in other sports. The four most important winners have already been determined.

    I also think the playoffs here is too random. There's too many points awarded to whomever gets hot in this 3 tournament (was 4 tournament) stretch. If you want to argue its like the NCAA basketball, OK maybe. But most other sports the best teams are usually playing late too.

    College Basketball) HAVE TOURNAMENTS WITH A TOURNAMENT ((Baseball)....Pennant champion ,World Series (Football)....division Champ, Super bowl (College football).....Many Bowl games ( Basketball)...….conference champs, finals champ. My point is all sports have contrived season events because it is about entertainment and money$$$,

    My point is no one thinks the FedEx Cup Champion is the undisputed champion of the golfing season. Anyone think Billy Horschel had a better 2014 than Rory?

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  • Titleist99Titleist99 Members Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭

    @MountainGoat said:
    Look like he's too far down the FedEx list to be a serious contender, and there's an event in Sweden that conflicts with the FedEx finals, anyway. That's an invitational, so he's probably looking as a pretty significant appearance fee.

    As I've always said, these Tour Pros are in control of their own schedule.....so stop complaining about the PGA Tour's schedule.

  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Titleist99 said:

    @MountainGoat said:
    Look like he's too far down the FedEx list to be a serious contender, and there's an event in Sweden that conflicts with the FedEx finals, anyway. That's an invitational, so he's probably looking as a pretty significant appearance fee.

    As I've always said, these Tour Pros are in control of their own schedule.....so stop complaining about the PGA Tour's schedule.

    I wasn’t.

  • Titleist99Titleist99 Members Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭

    @agolf1 said:

    @Titleist99 said:

    @agolf1 said:
    The playoffs in golf doesn't really mean you are the "champion" for the year like in other sports. The four most important winners have already been determined.

    I also think the playoffs here is too random. There's too many points awarded to whomever gets hot in this 3 tournament (was 4 tournament) stretch. If you want to argue its like the NCAA basketball, OK maybe. But most other sports the best teams are usually playing late too.

    College Basketball) HAVE TOURNAMENTS WITH A TOURNAMENT ((Baseball)....Pennant champion ,World Series (Football)....division Champ, Super bowl (College football).....Many Bowl games ( Basketball)...….conference champs, finals champ. My point is all sports have contrived season events because it is about entertainment and money$$$,

    My point is no one thinks the FedEx Cup Champion is the undisputed champion of the golfing season. Anyone think Billy Horschel had a better 2014 than Rory?

    Fair point but the FedEx Cup and Wyndhem points is based on season consistency.

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