Real or Fake Titleist AP1 716

ijcortesijcortes Members Posts: 14 ✭✭

About two years ago I purchased a set of used AP1 716 irons (5-PW) that have KBS Tour V 110 shafts. This is a secondary set that I bought to have available in my vacation home and I use them sparingly.

This past week I was at the range with them and noticed the ferrule coming apart on the 8 iron when I noticed that the ferrules seemed a bit shorter than on my vokey wedges. I then noticed the 6 iron DOES NOT have the serial number. The 5 iron wierdly has the markings of a sticker that was removed that might have provided reference to any legitimacy of these clubs. I am concerned they are fake. Other than this everything seems normal and they feel good at impact.

I read that in other countries they don't use serial numbers or that demo clubs might not have them applied. I can no longer access the purchase data in detail on ebay so i cannot verify anything from the post.

Please see pictures of 8 iron, 6 iron and 5 iron and let me know what you think as Titleist has been slow to reply



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  • GoIrish17GoIrish17 Members Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Two years ago...

    Driver: Ping G400 LST 8° | HC Evenflow Black 65 (thoughts arrive like butterflies)
    3wd: TaylorMade M4 Tour 15° | Kuro Kage XT 70
    Hybrid: Callaway X2Hot Pro 18° | Fujikura Speeder 8.8
    Driving Iron: Callaway X Forged UT 21° | AD DI 105
    Irons: Srixon 785 5-PW | Recoil 110
    Wedges: Vokey 48° F (handground S), 54° M, 58° V | KBS 610
    Putters: Byron Morgan DH 89
    MannKrafted MA66
    Cameron AOP Oil Can Newport
    Tad Moore 1S Prototype

  • ijcortesijcortes Members Posts: 14 ✭✭

    @GoIrish17 said:
    Two years ago...

    Better late than never. I just want to know what i have on my hands. Knowledgable feedback would be greatly appreciated

  • Yanki01Yanki01 TEXASMembers Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I think they're fine. very well used but fine. the fakes are usually the AP2 models. the only thing that is a tad off is the badge but not enough to make them counterfeit. do you have a better photo of the "TUNGSTEN" etching? that's another aspect of the fakes which is always off on this model.

    for reference - here's a fake thread on the 716 AP2. https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/comment/17651782#Comment_17651782

    915D2 Rogue Silver 60S
    915F Rogue Black 80S
    915H Rogue Black 85S
    712u 4i Recoil F4 110
    714 AP2 5-PW Nippon Modus3 Tour 105x
    SM6 51.08F | 56.08M | 60.10S
    Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec 33/350G
    WITB || Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec
  • ijcortesijcortes Members Posts: 14 ✭✭

    @Yanki01 said:
    I think they're fine. very well used but fine. the fakes are usually the AP2 models. the only thing that is a tad off is the badge but not enough to make them counterfeit. do you have a better photo of the "TUNGSTEN" etching? that's another aspect of the fakes which is always off on this model.

    for reference - here's a fake thread on the 716 AP2. https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/comment/17651782#Comment_17651782

    Here is a picture of the “tungsten” on the 7 iron. Let me know what you think

  • Yanki01Yanki01 TEXASMembers Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    you're good.

    915D2 Rogue Silver 60S
    915F Rogue Black 80S
    915H Rogue Black 85S
    712u 4i Recoil F4 110
    714 AP2 5-PW Nippon Modus3 Tour 105x
    SM6 51.08F | 56.08M | 60.10S
    Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec 33/350G
    WITB || Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec
  • ijcortesijcortes Members Posts: 14 ✭✭

    @Yanki01 said:
    you're good.

    So the titleist rep finally got back to me and told me what i already knew and made me question the clubs in the first place: custom sets have serial number on every club and stocks on the 6 iron. He would not comment directly on the issue of my specific clubs. I’m frustrated and thinking maybe i should switch these...

  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    They're 100% real

    PING i20 10.5
    Adams a7 19
    PING G25 23
    Nike VR Forged Pro Combo 5-P
    Titleist Vokey SM6 52F, 58M
    Cameron Studio Select Newport
  • ijcortesijcortes Members Posts: 14 ✭✭

    @brew4eagle said:
    They're 100% real

    Hoping you are right! But what reasons would there be for the lack of a serial number?? To put it another way if i wanted to trade these in i would assume a reputable and responsible golf shop who would be an authorized titleist dealer would be apprehensive to accepting them, no?

  • Yanki01Yanki01 TEXASMembers Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe they were a demo set before? unsure on the true reason of no serial number but they're still authentic.

    915D2 Rogue Silver 60S
    915F Rogue Black 80S
    915H Rogue Black 85S
    712u 4i Recoil F4 110
    714 AP2 5-PW Nippon Modus3 Tour 105x
    SM6 51.08F | 56.08M | 60.10S
    Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec 33/350G
    WITB || Scotty Cameron Mil-Spec
  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 14, 2019 3:57pm #11

    I ordered custom 716 AP1 and the serial # was not on all irons, just the 6 iron. Also, I have SM6 wedges and if I recall correctly the Vokey ferrules were longer than the AP1s (I no longer have the AP1s to compare now). However, even if different ferrules it could have been a DIY reshaft to the KBS shafts. Regardless, from your pics your AP1s are real. To better assure yourself, does the black part of the "Titleist" badge have little ribbed lines that match up with the little ribbed lines on the "AP1" badge (can't see that level of detail in your pics)?

    PING i20 10.5
    Adams a7 19
    PING G25 23
    Nike VR Forged Pro Combo 5-P
    Titleist Vokey SM6 52F, 58M
    Cameron Studio Select Newport
  • thevaporzthevaporz Members Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Authentic AP1 heads with aftermarket shafts.

  • eleven bravoeleven bravo Members Posts: 36 ✭✭

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