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"New" PX vs "Old" PX

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I had a set of the original satin PX in a set long ago, liked how they flattened the flight of the ball, and the softer tip section made it easier for me to load the shaft. I had 6.0 flex.
Flash forward a few years, I just installed a new set of PX 5.5s in my MP5s. The feel and performance are totally different, ball flies kinda high and they feel stiffer, not as easy to load. These are the "shiny" non satin newer models.

Did they change when they went to the shiny finish or something?

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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members  19640WRX Points: 1,698Posts: 19,640 Titanium Tees
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    There are MANY older threads on this same topic and "opinions" galore. What we do know is that True Temper did make new tooling when they took over production, reason being (allegedly) because the old RP tooling was in poor condition and/or not able to product a consistent product and/or not able to meet the required production rate desired. Does that mean the RP made shafts are different from the TT made shafts? I tend to doubt it, in any substantial way at least.

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    The best way to tell if the new PX are different from the original satin PX (which I had and loved) is whether the tips bend.

    The original PX, like all Kim Braly designed shafts, did not have a reinforced tip section and was very prone to bending. Just like all the KBS shafts today. If True Temper changed that when they took over, then you will absolutely play differently.

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    On -, @jvincent said:

    The best way to tell if the new PX are different from the original satin PX (which I had and loved) is whether the tips bend.

    The original PX, like all Kim Braly designed shafts, did not have a reinforced tip section and was very prone to bending. Just like all the KBS shafts today. If True Temper changed that when they took over, then you will absolutely play differently.

    I have a 2 iron that has the older style, satin PX. It's a 6.5 flex, but the tip still bends. The tips on the newer set are much firmer....

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    I had MP-60s with the satin Royal Precision Project X, and when the MP-62s came out, I immediately switched to them. The newer MP-62s came with the now True Temper owned chrome Project X shafts. Both were 5.5. At the time of switching, I felt like they were worlds apart feel-wise. The originals were a much softer feel, and I agree, you could feel the shaft load better, particularly in shorter clubs. With that said, I feel like my distance control and dispersion has been better on the True Temper version...but, that might be as much about my game getting better as it was the shaft.

    FWIW, I still am playing the MP-62s to this day with the same chrome True Temper Project X shafts.

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    On -, @Big A HG said:

    I had MP-60s with the satin Royal Precision Project X, and when the MP-62s came out, I immediately switched to them. The newer MP-62s came with the now True Temper owned chrome Project X shafts. Both were 5.5. At the time of switching, I felt like they were worlds apart feel-wise. The originals were a much softer feel, and I agree, you could feel the shaft load better, particularly in shorter clubs. With that said, I feel like my distance control and dispersion has been better on the True Temper version...but, that might be as much about my game getting better as it was the shaft.

    FWIW, I still am playing the MP-62s to this day with the same chrome True Temper Project X shafts.

    Thanks! I would hit "missiles" with those satin PX shafts, the new ones do not have that flat trajectory, kinda high.

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    The production method has changed, thats why.
    R.P removed the steps on the half done shaft from 2 sides, who might cause a inconsistent mid section where the tools overlapped, so they changed the method to a one direction operation to prevent that.
    If you read between the lines, TT actually say that those Satin PX that feels smooth, is due to a production error from when the steps was straiten out...its NOT the tip section thats changed, its in the mid section this difference is (when it is present). This info about change of production and why is directly from TT.

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    On -, @Howard Jones said:

    The production method has changed, thats why.
    R.P removed the steps on the half done shaft from 2 sides, who might cause a inconsistent mid section where the tools overlapped, so they changed the method to a one direction operation to prevent that.
    If you read between the lines, TT actually say that those Satin PX that feels smooth, is due to a production error from when the steps was straiten out...its NOT the tip section thats changed, its in the mid section this difference is (when it is present). This info about change of production and why is directly from TT.

    So by that logic all the people who say there is no difference are incorrect, because in fact there is a difference in how they were produced?

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    When a company designs a product the product specifications are established and documented, typically on a drawing. Then the tooling is made to produce the product to meet the specifications. The method of manufacture isn't the critical element, meeting the specs of the product definition is.
    TT purchased RP and then remade the tooling. Why would they purchase RP and then change the design? That would make no sense. I suspect that the TT shafts are closer to the real design specs than the RP made shafts.

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    On -, @swgolf12 said:

    On -, @Howard Jones said:

    The production method has changed, thats why.
    R.P removed the steps on the half done shaft from 2 sides, who might cause a inconsistent mid section where the tools overlapped, so they changed the method to a one direction operation to prevent that.
    If you read between the lines, TT actually say that those Satin PX that feels smooth, is due to a production error from when the steps was straiten out...its NOT the tip section thats changed, its in the mid section this difference is (when it is present). This info about change of production and why is directly from TT.

    So by that logic all the people who say there is no difference are incorrect, because in fact there is a difference in how they were produced?

    The production method is different, so there is a "potential" for a difference in the end product.

    But...for all we know, R.P made the shaft this way to make that "weak spot" on the middle where the tools who straiten out the stepps overlapped the way they made this shafts. According to TT, they changed this to improve "tolerances" in production.

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